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A few tidbits on the whole Plame/Wilson/Libby kerfuffle:

Robert Novak has FINALLY told his side of the story on how Valerie Plame's identity as a CIA employee was revealed -- and it's pretty much as suspected: Novak asked Richard Armitage why the hell Joseph Wilson, of all people, was sent to Africa to investigate charges that Saddam was seeking uranium, and Armitage answered that "Wilson's wife, Valerie" worked at the CIA in counterproliferation.

Also, Newsweek is reporting that the "real story" about President Bush's commutation of Lewis "Scooter" Libby's prison sentence is that Vice President Dick Cheney pressed hard for it, and Bush did so to prevent a "fracture" with Cheney.

Of course, the real story is that they were afraid of what would happen if Libby went to prison. You see, Libby said that on his very first night behind bars, he would flush a Koran down the toilet -- and that would trigger riots around the world. Bush had no choice but to give in to the blackmail, and so Scooter goes free to keep millions of Muslims from going on the rampage yet again.

Hey, I read it in Newsweek. You can't question that!!!

In honor of Al Gore's "Live Earth" concert, I decided to engage in my own form of environmentalism. I first used the Koran line over at Wizbang Blue, but decided I ought to "recycle" it on the main page.


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Comments (33)

JT, I would not put any cre... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

JT, I would not put any credence in anything Newsweek publishes. They hate GW and Cheney with a passion. Of course Cheney wanted Libby pardoned. Were they going to "fracture" if GW didn't? No. I do like the Koran example though. Really funny. ww

the 'truth' is that NOTHING... (Below threshold)
steak111111:

the 'truth' is that NOTHING Bush does can top Klinton's pardon of "Rich".

"(AP) Former President Clinton says he regrets the last-minute pardon he gave to fugitive financier Marc Rich because it has tarnished his reputation.

Asked if he would do it again, "probably not, just for the politics," he said in an interview with Newsweek magazine. "It was terrible politics. It wasn't worth the damage to my reputation."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/31/politics/main505042.shtml

"It wasn't worth the damage to my reputation???" AMAZING! It was a mistake ONLY because it tarnished his reputation. OMG!!! And HE was President?!?!?????

Here are a couple of intere... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Here are a couple of interesting quotes:

"Then, in the last week of June 2003, Armitage's office called to agree unexpectedly to my request and set up the appointment for July 8." So Armitage had been ducking Novackula for years and now he wants to talk with him?

"Neither of us set ground rules" So Novacula could have went public with his source at any time but decided not to?

"It is important to note that Armitage reached out to me before Joe Wilson went public.." If this was before JW went public how did Novacula know about Joe Wilson?

As far as Libby goes, the law says discloser... and not publication of an agents identity. It was clear from the trial that Libby was told of Plame's identity by the VP, and he disclosed here identity to persons before Amitage told Novacula.

I love how the right always forgets about that point of law.

Barney:You're conven... (Below threshold)
George:

Barney:
You're conveniently ignoring the total requirements of that law which defines what is illegal. It is not a question of disclosing versus publishing; it's a question of was it illegal to disclose that the wife of lying Joe Wilson was involved with the CIA decision to send him to Africa.

And how is it clear that Libby "disclosed here [sic] identity to persons before Amitage [sic] told Novacula [sic]?"

Barney the poo flinger is a... (Below threshold)
Piso Mojado:

Barney the poo flinger is at it again. What utter BS. Wilson and is wife are both lying sacks of shit.

George, please see:-... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

George, please see:
-Fleisher
-Miller
-Cooper

The VP office was very proactive in seeking Iraq WMD violations. Cheney was at the CIA headquarters all the time, and Plame was heading a task force that was charged to look into those very concerns. It is hard to believe that Cheney did not know who VP was or of her covert status.

Barney, were you also upset... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Barney, were you also upset when Mr. Clinton pardoned Henry Cisneros?

You remember Cisneros, right? Lied to the FBI, obstructed an investigation, convicted of perjury, pardoned by President William Jefferson Clinton.

But that's okay with you, I suspect, because Clinton is a Democrat.

C-C-GTry occasiona... (Below threshold)
JFO:

C-C-G

Try occasionally to get your facts right. Cisneros pled guilty to a misdemeanor count of lying to the FBI. I'm not defending or comparing just trying to get you to 1) stop your constant lying and 2) read something before you blow hot air out your mouth.

Is that the same Newsweek t... (Below threshold)
Chris G:

Is that the same Newsweek that ran the bogus Koran-Flushing story, that resulted in death and meyham abroad? Is that the same Newsweek that after the bogus story ran, let their friends in the media do their PR image control?

Let me quess, that story had a lot of un-named sources of people who work in the Administration. If the info was obained via a phone interview, did it register the number of the informant was the same as the DNC's headquarters?

Why the word Armitage is forbidden to be spoken inthe media? Especially if the media has their panties in a tither about Plame being "outed"?

My memory is getting hazy i... (Below threshold)
scrapiron Author Profile Page:

My memory is getting hazy in my old age but I seem to remember Slick Willie J pardoning real criminals (still being paid off for the pardons), and maybe even a relative that was/is a criminal. Eventually even the dimmy's will figure out they have been suckered by the DNC using the lies of Wilson/Plame but will they have the guts to admit they were suckered. It's doubtful since they have been suckers for lies back to and including the JFK regime of the 60's. Like their adiction to drugs they are adicted to liars. BDS only drives them further into the sewer of lies. It will be an interesting few weeks as we watch the dhimmi's set up the next 2-3 dhimmi president for impeachment. Lowering the bar will effect the historical party of criminals (democrats) the most.

JFO, lying is lying. Clinto... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

JFO, lying is lying. Clinton pardoned someone who lied and was convicted (a guilty plea still results in a conviction) of lying.

Not even a nice try at spin. 0.1 out of 10.

So then you are against Bus... (Below threshold)
JFO:

So then you are against Bush's pardon of Libby, correct ? It was wrong and should be condemned, correct? Your're going to be a man/woman and honest for a change and condemn it, correct?

Go hear to read Jonah Goldb... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Go hear to read Jonah Goldberg rip Clinton for the Rich pardon. I am sure he feels the same way about the Libby pardon, or about the Cap Weinberg pardon?

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTBhYjY1YjljYzA1OGM1NjhhNTQ0OTFmODY0ODQ1MDU=

I have to correct myself. O... (Below threshold)
JFO:

I have to correct myself. Of course Bush didn't Pardon Libby [yet].

What about Sandy "Socks" Bu... (Below threshold)
stan25:

What about Sandy "Socks" Burglar? The Bush Administration let him off with a slap on the wrist, when he clearly committed obstruction of justice and quite possibly treason. Of course, the Klintoon hold-overs in the Department of Injustice had a hand in that debacle. I also would not be too surprise to learn that the same Klintoon hold-overs were the driving force behind the railroading Scooter Libby

The dishonesty of the left ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

The dishonesty of the left is in full display again. The progressive leftists now don't care about the leaker anymore. Why does the left want to continue the investigation/trial after the leaker of Plame identity was known already? Again, the liberals were lying when they faked outrage about the leaking of Plame 's identity.

This is simply another example in the long list of the dishonesty of the liberal left.

"It was terrible p... (Below threshold)
"It was terrible politics. It wasn't worth the damage to my reputation."

He misspoke. He meant to say, "the further damage to my tarnished reputation."

I find it interesting that ... (Below threshold)
Rance:

I find it interesting that Novak who was called unexpectedly to see Armitage, given an exclusive tidbit of information, with the hint that "Amitage expected to see the item published in my column", didn't corroborate the information with a second source. I would think any reporter, dealing with any political type, wouldn't take any bit of information that the source seemed eager to get into print, without backup verification.

I would think any reporter,... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

I would think any reporter, dealing with any political type, wouldn't take any bit of information that the source seemed eager to get into print, without backup verification.
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I think this was kind of obvious. According to Andrea Mitchell at NBC (a dem BTW), Plame 's identity was an open secret (ie everyone knew that she worked for the CIA). The question was why the Bush adm would send a partisan liar like Wilson to Niger. The answer that his wife recommended him was kind of obvious. It was interesting that the liberal MSM, dealing with any political type, would be eager to promote the lies of these folks without any backup verification.

Novacula did get back up. ... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Novacula did get back up. He asked a contact in the CIA that told him not to go there and he called Rove. Rove told him that VP worked at the CIA.

BTW, Fritzgald shou... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

BTW,
Fritzgald should be put under oath to tell why he didn't prosecute Armitage. Plame and Wilson should be put under oath as well. We will see whether the dems in Congress are honest enough to put these people under oath. It is interesting to notice the silence from the liberal left in calling for these people to be under oath since leaking the identity of a CIA agent was so important to them. We kind of know the answer and we can draw the proper conclusion about the left.

Plame and Wilson should be ... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Plame and Wilson should be put under oath as well. We will see whether the dems in Congress are honest enough to put these people under oath. It is interesting to notice the silence from the liberal left in calling for these people to be under oath since leaking the identity of a CIA agent was so important to them. Lovie

Plame testified under oath back in March and Joe is scheduled to testify later this week or next. Both were question by the SSCI.

You can go back to sleep now.

BarneyG2000,If Rov... (Below threshold)
Rance:

BarneyG2000,

If Rove did indeed confirm what Armitage had told Novak, he was in the wrong. As I have said before, when asked, the correct response is "We don't discuss who does or does not work for the CIA/NSA/DIA agent". Peoples lives depend on that information being kept quiet.

It is interesting to not... (Below threshold)
Mark:

It is interesting to notice the silence from the liberal left in calling for these people to be under oath

You are a moron.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/leahy-fitz/

Barneyg2k is lying again. ... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Barneyg2k is lying again. Like his mentors, Clintons, Plames, et al.

And making a poor argument. Lying and stupidity are not good, Barney Boy.

Mark, YOu are truly... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Mark,
YOu are truly a moron for not even reading your own source. Thanks for confirming the level of honesty from the left.

Specter said he wanted Fitzgerald to appear so he could press him to justify the CIA leak investigation. "Why were they pursuing the matter long after there was no underlying crime on the outing of the CIA agent?" Specter said, echoing the common right-wing talking point. "Why were they pursuing it after we knew who the leaker was?"

Leahy, on the other hand, is apparently more interested in learning more about Fitzgerald's interviews with President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

So then you are ag... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:
So then you are against Bush's pardon of Libby, correct ? It was wrong and should be condemned, correct? Your're going to be a man/woman and honest for a change and condemn it, correct?

Nope.

And neither am (or was) I against Clinton pardoning Cisneros. (See, you assumed I was. I was simply pointing out the parallels for all the deranged moonbats--like you--who are treating the two differently.)

A President can pardon whom he likes. The power is absolute.

I never understood why the ... (Below threshold)
Dirk:

I never understood why the libtards keep thinking Libby would have sold Bush out if he went to jail. From what they say, Libby and Cheney are heterosexual love buddies, so why would he incriminate such a close friend for two years in a club fed jail? I wouldn't.

This just in:"Sour... (Below threshold)

This just in:

"Sources" say that Michael Isasymp is a user and distributor of child porn,and that he does it with Newsbleaks' blessing.

If I published a story like that with the real names of the principles,what would happen to me? All of the traitors,from Isikoff, to 90% of the The NY Times, to their connections in State,to the leakers in the Senate and the house and half of the media,who intentionally mislead,obfuscate and commit lies of ommision on a regular basis,should at least be included in a class action lawsuit on behalf of the American fighting man and the loyal citizens he guards, and at most be subject to the kind of justice that Lincoln and FDR meted out in their respective times of war. (Which were no more dangerous times by the way.)

BG2, you are confused.... (Below threshold)
kim:

BG2, you are confused.

9:46 Armitage told Woodward long before he told Novak.

10:10 Fleischer, Miller, and Cooper are all terrible witnesses and Fitz bullied them into improving their memories over time.

2:32 Rove said "I heard that, too" to Novak. He'd heard it from Hohlte, who'd heard it from Novak, who'd heard it from Armitage, creating the circularity that caused Fitzgerald to suspect, in error, a White House conspiracy.

3:43 Joe Wilson under oath Wednesday at the House Judiciary Committee. Livebloggers at the ready to cross-examine the lies as they come out of his mouth. Might be fun. Wake up!

Rance, you smell like you've had fingers in your innards.

My latest idea is for Bush to pardon all the people this uncontrollable prosecutor bullied. Watch the truth pour out. Are you listening Fred Fielding?
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You know it's bad when the ... (Below threshold)
kim:

You know it's bad when the only opposing commentary is the Bot and the Sock.
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Joe Wilson, live on Conyers... (Below threshold)
kim:

Joe Wilson, live on Conyersvue, at High Noon, probably Eastern.
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Yes, yes, it was big fun. ... (Below threshold)
kim:

Yes, yes, it was big fun. Issa told Joe Wilson his wife was a perjuror. Joe said Cheney colluded with Senators on the SSCI to make him out a liar. Someone else said Joe Wilson and Val Plame will need pardons soon.
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