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Iraqi and US Troops Celebrate the Defeat of al Qaeda in Anbar

There was quite a bit of singing and dancing after al Qaeda was defeated in Anbar Province:

Yep, that's a lot of resentment toward our troops right there.

Hat tip: Hot Air


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Any celebration over the cl... (Below threshold)

Any celebration over the claimed defeat of Al Qaeda is always premature. This terrorist organization has proven a cockroachlike ability to survive anywhere it has been under assault and regenerate.

Defeating Al Qaeda will take a lot longer than dropping a few bombs in some province in Iraq, when Osama Bin Laden T-shirts are freely sold throughout much of the Islamic world, with millions of sympathetic supporters under the age of 30 who admire him like the extremists who once admired Che Guevara and other revolutionaries of the past.

A rebel nature in the young people of Islam, as well as a reaction against the American occupation in Iraq, will quickly serve to regenerate Al Qaeda. It will unfortunately be back again as long as it can recruit new members by using a reaction against the U.S.

Terrorism survives by doing a terrible thing, such as 9/11, getting massive publicity, then getting a government like the U.S. to overreact, then survives by recruiting new members as a consequence of this overreaction. How to break this chain-reaction is the key to taking the wind out of the sails of terrorism, and very difficult.

That's right, Paul H. Who ... (Below threshold)
Mark L:

That's right, Paul H. Who are we supposed to believe? You or our lying eyes? What fools we are to fall for this clip of film, made on the scene by people who were there and saw what was going on, when we have your pearls of wisdom to treasure and clutch to our bosom?


Bwahahahaha!

Take it to DU.

Hooson:Terrori... (Below threshold)
marc:

Hooson:

Terrorism survives by doing a terrible thing, such as 9/11, getting massive publicity, then getting a government like the U.S. to overreact, then survives by recruiting new members as a consequence of this overreaction.

Just what Gov. "overreacted" between the years of 1988 (al-Qaeda's birthday) and 2001?

Who was it that prompted so much recruiting then?

This is your sorriest comment since you attempted to explain Fair Use and how some of the blue crew were blatant thieves.

That should read "weren't b... (Below threshold)
marc:

That should read "weren't blatant thieves."

Paul hooz is a prof. How ca... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Paul hooz is a prof. How can you not take his word for it!!! You know anything that makes the USA look good is a lie to the USA haters on the left.

Defeating Al Qaeda will... (Below threshold)

Defeating Al Qaeda will take a lot longer than dropping a few bombs in some province in Iraq

Yup, which is exactly why there is a huge ground force present in Anbar.

I don't think you really appreciate how dangerous Anbar was about a year ago. Marginalizing it to "some province in Iraq" is precisely why Democrats should sit back and let those serious about eliminating terror do the work.

Marc, read my statement mor... (Below threshold)

Marc, read my statement more carefully: Terrorism survives by doing a terrible thing such as 9/11, getting massive publicity, then getting a government like the U.S. to overreact, then survives by recruiting new members as a consequence of this overreaction.

Is the period 1988 to 2001 prior to 9/11 implied here. No. Because Al Qaeda didn't get enough of a reaction out of the U.S. for the smaller lot bombing of the World Trade Center or other smaller world terrorist events before 9/11. 9/11 and the Iraq War of 2003 were made into a major recruiting event by Al Qaeda which is now stronger than ever despite the U.S. "War On Terrorism".

Terrorists are actually a small and puny, weak force. But like a mouse standing before a open window, they hope to magnify their shadows and recruit more persons by a chain reaction of terrorism/publicity/ government overreactions. Government has no choice but to respond to these political criminals, who most often cowardly strike innocent civilians to force a government response, but often that reaction only serves to fuel more terrorism, so the problem is very complex on how to unwind this phenomenon. If someone has that answer, the governments of the world would sure like to hear it.

Fighting terrorism is nothing like the old nature of warfare against an established state that would eventually surrender in the past. You're now fighting a small, but very determined, shadowy, evil force, that can regenerate almost anywhere. That's much more difficult to combat, and often entails new laws that collide with accepted civil liberties.

"Any celebration over th... (Below threshold)

"Any celebration over the claimed defeat of Al Qaeda is always premature."

I had a hard time getting past the very first sentence. The disingenuousness of it set the tone for the rest of the comment.

"Claimed defeat"
"Any celebration"
"Premature"

Maybe you can get on over there and straighten them out, Paul. How dare they celebrate. How dare they make claims that they've removed al Qaeda's influence from their region, knowing full well that you are the one to make that decision and when it's appropriate to celebrate.

The gall of those people. And us, for being happy for their successes. Shame on us.

It's a start - a good start... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

It's a start - a good start. There will still be attempts, of course - and some will be successful, which will cause folks like Paul and Lee to say we need to leave NOW, to bail on them before more people get slaughtered because of our presence.

The assumption there is that our departure would drop the death rate, would stop insurgent activity, would make their use of car bombs and mortars unnessesary. The problem is that the insurgents aren't what we would consider rational actors - THEY have no problem killing as many people as possible in order to get their version of Islam imposed on the people of Iraq, their version of control imposed regardless of body count and the people are fed up with it.

So - do we abandon them? Should we abandon them? Because that's what a withdrawl will be seen as, rightly or wrongly, by both the people of Iraq and the terrorists eager to kill them. We can try to parse it out as something else - but if we bug out it'll make it very plain that the US can no longer be trusted as an ally in anything serious for more than four years, and possibly less.

Paul Hooson, if he was capt... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Paul Hooson, if he was captain of a football team and they won a game, he would tell his team not to waste time celebrating a hard fought game but instead to worry about next weeks team.

Paul, I have heard a lot of excuses about terrorism, but puny group is not one of them. You yourself said that many in the Islamofacist world support Oasama. You guys are moving the goal posts all over the place. If we stop a terrorists action, you claim they were incompetent so GW has nothing to crow about. If an attack goes off but does not inflict damage, GW got lucky. If an attack happens and casualties result, then GW is incompetent. Stick to a set of talking points. This is why no one on this site and elsewhere takes liberals seriously. I am not sure even you and your ilk know what you believe.

Good for the Iraq's. Good for our troops. Enjoy the victory. I support you. ww

Oyster, I don't know the so... (Below threshold)

Oyster, I don't know the source of the tape. But likely it is from the Iraqi Government Interior Ministry, a propaganda unit dominated by radical Shiite militia men also responsible for the murder of university professors who did not teach fundamentalist Islamic teachings in their college classes. Such a source of information such as this is not the best considering the source.

I'm hardly convinced that Al Qaeda is really defeated in Anbar. This menace seems to pick the very same areas to return to fight later. Look at the twin attacks on the World Trade Center several years apart for example. Terrorists seem predictable in this way only.

Al Qaeda is hardly the biggest menace in Iraq. Sectarian violence is still responsible for as much as 99% of the killings of civilians. And the Shiite militia dominated Iraqi Interior Ministry is a leading source of attacks on Sunnis and torture of civilians.

WildWillie, like you I'm gl... (Below threshold)

WildWillie, like you I'm glad to see any military setback to the terrorists. They are evil cowards who target innocent civilians to further their extremist politics. But unlike you, I doubt that Al Qaeda is really defeated in this province, and warfare against this stubborn menace will likely resurface very soon.

Some estimates are that as few as 500 Iraqis and 500 foreign fighters are fighting on behalf of Al Qaeda in Iraq. That's a pretty small organization compared to militia groups as large as the 100,000 member Peshmerga militia in Iraq for example, among many others. At least 24 armed organizations operate in Iraq at last count. Al Qaeda is still nowhere near the main source of violence in Iraq, the sectarian militia groups are.

WildWillie, like y... (Below threshold)
Chip:
WildWillie, like you I'm glad to see any military setback to the terrorists. They are evil cowards who target innocent civilians to further their extremist politics. But unlike you, I doubt that Al Qaeda is really defeated in this province, and warfare against this stubborn menace will likely resurface very soon.

Just a leetle glass half empty there eh, Paul?
Thats why I'm not a liberal, it takes too much energy out of me to be so pessimistic all the time.

AQ is capable of regenerati... (Below threshold)
scrapiron Author Profile Page:

AQ is capable of regenerating so fast because they have a large supporting structure (approval and financial support by the democrats) in the United States. Some call them main line democrats, I call them traitors, one and all, that is unless you now classify Dirty Harry, Peeeloshi, Botox Boxer, Shrillary, Silky Pony, Mad Jack Murtha, just make it every leader in the democrat pary, as left wing radical anti-Americans. I don't know of a democrat that couldn't/shouldn't be arrested, convicted and shot under war time rules. Can anyone name even one that has not turned traitor due to BDS? Maybe they can plead mental illness to excape the 'shooting' part. Like combat stress, BDS is now a certified mental illness. Looks like the current hate for the president has been transfered to congress and by more people. 14% approval isn't something they should be proud of. I doubt the number will improve in the next few years, or as long as the dhimmi's are in charge of the nut house/senate. Don't leave out the job scared RINO's.

Hooson is also one who beli... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Hooson is also one who believes that football teams shouldn't celebrate a touchdown, baseball teams shouldn't celebrate a home run, hockey teams shouldn't celebrate a goal, race car drivers shouldn't do a victory lap, etc.

In fact, he's circulating a petition to ask Congress to ban scorekeeping in all professional sports, because, well, you know, it just isn't fair to the other team.

And we know which team Hooson is rooting for in the War on Terror, don't we? After all, it's never the winners that complain about celebrations.

Democrat Traitors hope t... (Below threshold)
RobLACal.:

Democrat Traitors hope that they can get away by putting on a Soap Opera of Fraud. There is nothing more scandalous and sinister than the democrat party of traitors putting on this farce of being concerned and patriotic.

"A series of experiences characterized by dramatic displays of emotion."

Democrats are criminal frauds turn TRAITOR/CHILD MOLESTOR. These are just the latest despicable acts from the "SAY ANYTHING" , "DO WHATEVER IT TAKES" party of Chameleons.

I only wish to see one more act , one which even I will rise and applaud. That of the CONDEMNED

I don't think you ... (Below threshold)
I don't think you really appreciate how dangerous Anbar was about a year ago. Marginalizing it to "some province in Iraq" is precisely why Democrats should sit back and let those serious about eliminating terror do the work.

by Cpl M

Cpl M, thanks for your perspective and insight. Thank you for your service and your blog.

I do not believe Paul Hooso... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

I do not believe Paul Hooson is cheering on the terrorists. I do believe he expects the worse to happen over their and looks at everything through that prism. It is sad. It is negative and unproductive. I have always believed that there is NOTHING we as a country can't accomplish if we all pull together. Unfortunately, the liberals shut this war down through all kinds of nefarious ways; Leaking secrets, pictures of Abu Grahib, flushing Korans down toilets, torture, spying on Amercians, and all the rest. Constantly doing anything they can to diminish President Bush even if it hurts our troops. Don't forget, the liberals on this site call us Bushbots because we want our country to succeed and to do that we have to stand united behind our President. This is all a redeux though, I say them do it in the 1960's. Disgraceful. ww

Hoonson:Marc, ... (Below threshold)
marc:

Hoonson:

Marc, read my statement more carefully: Terrorism survives by doing a terrible thing such as 9/11,

I did, twice before I commented. My conclusion remains the same, you're a delusional fool.

Oyster, I don't know the source of the tape. But likely it is from the Iraqi Government Interior Ministry, a propaganda unit dominated by radical Shiite militia men

Yep, see a delusional fool.

Guess you didn't see the active duty U.,S. Military members in that video. Not that it matters, you probably believe they would be an active participant in your alleged propaganda effort.

As stated earlier go back to lying about the correct use of Fair Use Policy. Better yet, go back to Blue.

And stay there.

Marc, haven't you learned y... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Marc, haven't you learned yet that the Fair Use Policy is whatever Hooson says it is?

And a lie is whatever Hooson says it is, we're doing just as well (or as poorly) in Iraq as Hooson says we are, the proper way to take care of al Qaeda is precisely what Hooson says it is.

All bow down to Paul Hooson, the smartest man in the universe! Smarter than God, even!

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