He's pulling a stunt that does not have any real impact. When the GOP again successfully prevented a cloture vote on the Defense Authorization Bill that demanded surrender by April 2008, Harry Reid thought he was being strategically savvy by pulling it until the Republicans allow an up or down vote. He seems to think that this tactic will make the Republicans look bad. But that's not the case at all. As Election Central has even acknowledged, pulling the authorization bill isn't of any real consequence:
While the authorization bill set priorities for things like weapons systems in the defense budget, only the appropriations bill actually funds those priorities -- and, unlike what we said earlier it's not strictly necessary to pass the authorization first, though it is customary.In short, from the perspective of Pentagon operations, the lack of an authorization bill "isn't a problem, period, as long as an appropriations bill is passed," says Steve Koziack of the Center on Strategic and Budgetary Priorities.
So Harry Reid and the Democrats are again looking amazingly incompetent. Since the real necessity for the troops is the appropriations bill, this stunt has no meaning or significance in terms of "holding the GOP's feet to the fire," especially if the appropriations bill passes. However, if the Dems hold the troops hostage and use the appropriations bill as leverage to get their way on the authorization bill, they will look awful. All the while the GOP goes unscathed.
Macranger sees a political benefit from Reid's miscalculation:
Keep it up Harry, you're making 2008 look REAL good for the GOP by helping to revive the "Weak on Defense" mantra all by your skinny-assed self.




Comments (21)
Based of the recent defecti... (Below threshold)1. Posted by BarneyG2000 | July 18, 2007 7:33 PM | Score: -5 (7 votes cast)
Based of the recent defections of the Bush doctrine by key Republicans and on the day after the devastatingly bad news NEI, Americans will want to know why the GOP keeps protecting the President's stay the course strategy.
1. Posted by BarneyG2000 | July 18, 2007 7:33 PM |
Score: -5 (7 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 19:33
2. Posted by Paul Hooson | July 18, 2007 7:51 PM | Score: 0 (6 votes cast)
Iraq is a very serious issue that deserves a very serious public debate from all sides. I'm deeply sorry that this overnighter pizza sleepover stunt hurt this serious discussion regardless of anyone's opinions about Iraq.
2. Posted by Paul Hooson | July 18, 2007 7:51 PM |
Score: 0 (6 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 19:51
3. Posted by HughS | July 18, 2007 7:57 PM | Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
BarneyG2000
State the "the devastatingly bad news (in) NEI" and tell us how four Republican wobblers, none of whom are key supporters in the Senate, will damage this President further.
If your argument is based on "American's (desire) to know why the GOP keeps protecting the President's stay the course strategy, then your answer is in the polls of the last several weeks. Do you think this president cares about polls? Whose approval rating is worse? Congress? or Bush?
The interesting dynamic that is unfolding here is that the President simply does not care what the MSM thinks. That unnerves them.
The President believes the surge will work and will stay with it....that unnerves his critics in the media and Congress.
The President cares little of those Republicans who publicly split with him ( immigration reform anyone? He shrugged that off fast)....and that unnerves his critics.
Liberals have always underestimated Bush...I certainly don't agree with all his policies, but I wouldn't play poker with him. If you could ask Anne Richards, in an honest moment you would here the same . Don't underestimate him.
3. Posted by HughS | July 18, 2007 7:57 PM |
Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 19:57
4. Posted by _Mike_ | July 18, 2007 8:03 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
BarneyGump:
Based of the recent defections of the Bush doctrine by key Republicans...
End torture of the English language now!@
4. Posted by _Mike_ | July 18, 2007 8:03 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 20:03
5. Posted by scrapiron
| July 18, 2007 8:03 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
"Based of the recent defections of the Bush doctrine" Barney, get you head out of your,,, the sand. Every republican could have told you which job scared 'RINO's' would be begging you to vote for them. They know republicans won't so their only hope is to squeeze votes from the retard party, and it works. Retards keep sending them back to congress.
Harry's Hoax was a dismal failure. 14% approval of congress, by the KOS crowd, is the best they can do and some of them will defect after seeing the 'failed circus' that came to town. Did Dirty Harry break the law by buying pizza for the democrats using taxpayer funds? I watched a few hours of the comedy before being paged out to look for a vehicle that went into a lake. Unlike 'Fat Ted' we didn't want to leave someone trapped for hours to die slowly as their air ran out.
5. Posted by scrapiron
| July 18, 2007 8:03 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 20:03
6. Posted by WarIsPeace | July 18, 2007 8:07 PM | Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
What a day! Let's rag on Reid while the loyal Republicans prove with their cloture-blocking votes that they are quite content to waste another 200 American lives waiting for the surge to prove that Bush is not a blood-sucking lying vampire.
What a stinking P.O.S. party.
6. Posted by WarIsPeace | July 18, 2007 8:07 PM |
Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 20:07
7. Posted by HughS | July 18, 2007 8:13 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
WarIsPeace |
Is your problem with blocking cloture? Or do you want to just defund the war now and retreat? Or is it the Anne Rice novels swimming in your head?
Ignore the third question and tell us the answers to the first two.
7. Posted by HughS | July 18, 2007 8:13 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 20:13
8. Posted by Gene | July 18, 2007 8:50 PM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Gentlemen
I do believe it is time to pass legislation to limit congressional office time. We have a lot of luggage that needs to be discarded. There's a time in life that one is not functional.
8. Posted by Gene | July 18, 2007 8:50 PM |
Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 20:50
9. Posted by Gene | July 18, 2007 8:59 PM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Time to limit congressional seating as we have on presidential tenure. These old men are well seated in tradition and time we changed. With what is televised from Senate no need for hollywood to make more commedy shows.
9. Posted by Gene | July 18, 2007 8:59 PM |
Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 20:59
10. Posted by C-C-G
| July 18, 2007 9:40 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
WarIsPeace,
Was blocking cloture acceptable before January 2007? Why or why not?
10. Posted by C-C-G
| July 18, 2007 9:40 PM |
Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 21:40
11. Posted by marc | July 18, 2007 10:07 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
barneyGRUBBLE:
"Based of the recent defections of the Bush doctrine by key Republicans and on the day...."
How did those "key Republicans" vote after this idiotic stunt by Reid?
And BTW, wasn't the score 4 reps to 10 dems that crossed over on the last vote?
11. Posted by marc | July 18, 2007 10:07 PM |
Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 22:07
12. Posted by marc | July 18, 2007 10:14 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
Gene:
I do believe it is time to pass legislation to limit congressional office time. We have a lot of luggage that needs to be discarded. There's a time in life that one is not functional.
Agreed, limit both Reps and Sens to two terms max. Along with election funding reform.
Allow ALL funding from ALL sources with the exception of those coming outside the country and limiting gifts to the State the candidate resides in.
All campaign funding given MUST be posted in the congressional record and posted on the internet within 24 hours of the gift OR 200% of the gift will be levied as a fine to be split between the person or organization giving it and the candidate that accepts it.
12. Posted by marc | July 18, 2007 10:14 PM |
Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 22:14
13. Posted by Rovin | July 18, 2007 10:55 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
Warispeace is right....."ragging" only on Reid is far from what the majority party deserves credit for attempting to provide genocide to over a million Iraqis. One would guess that a party that is numb to abortion may have it easier to accept mass murderers.
Of course Reid is a half step away from putting us all to sleep along with such an embarassment as Robert Byrd who should have retired two decades ago.
But then simple minds depend on putting the onus of the worlds problems on one man for some kind of self-gratification. Also known as a third degree BDS.
13. Posted by Rovin | July 18, 2007 10:55 PM |
Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2007 22:55
14. Posted by greatcometof1577 | July 19, 2007 3:20 AM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
As for the "sleepover" last night and Republicans preventing a pull-out of Iraq all I can say is it is bad news for the GOP.
The dems have to be happy. The longer we keep up the "Bush Plan" in Iraq the better chance the dems have of winning the white house. They will do a few political stunts to look like they are trying to get out for their base and then let the Republicans kill it (loyalty to Bush...very dumb). Then say..."See the evil republicans are against the will of the people".
Sometimes in the game of life you have to fold a bad hand. Iraq is a very bad hand. If the GOP is depending on Iraqi muslims to become civilized before the next election.....good luck on that.
14. Posted by greatcometof1577 | July 19, 2007 3:20 AM |
Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
Posted on July 19, 2007 03:20
15. Posted by HughS | July 19, 2007 7:40 AM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Comet
This is what the ReidPelosi hand looks like....
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27946
15. Posted by HughS | July 19, 2007 7:40 AM |
Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on July 19, 2007 07:40
16. Posted by WildWillie | July 19, 2007 8:21 AM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
The lefties here are in major denial. The lowest approval rating in the HISTORY of congress. Brought to you by the proud liberal demo party. All talk and no action. Playing games with our troops. Wow! I cannot wait until 2008. Maybe by then the left will know their majority leader is very incompetent, but I say, "let him stay." Oh...also, Reid aggravated Specter BIG TIME. Not a smart thing to do. ww
16. Posted by WildWillie | July 19, 2007 8:21 AM |
Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on July 19, 2007 08:21
17. Posted by WarIsPeace | July 19, 2007 10:09 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Rovin slobbered, "....."ragging" only on Reid is far from what the majority party deserves credit for attempting to provide genocide to over a million Iraqis."
Sorry Rovin, but you have one massively skewed assessment on that matter.
As Powell told the incompetent Chimp, "You break it (Iraq), you own it. The Dems are not morally liable for pulling this nation out of Bush's lying war of choice. All the blood from the Bush-inspired slaughter thus far and any resultant mass genocide after our withdrawal falls squarely on the shoulders of this war criminal president and all the Republican toadies like you who cheered on for Bush;s war crimes.
The fault lies w/ you neocons and righties who have always loved cheap jingoism, especially when others are paying the cost.
17. Posted by WarIsPeace | July 19, 2007 10:09 AM |
Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Posted on July 19, 2007 10:09
18. Posted by spurwing plover | July 19, 2007 10:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Of couarse he is not smart he already proved it by becoming a ultra liberal left-wing big goverment demacrat
18. Posted by spurwing plover | July 19, 2007 10:58 AM |
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Posted on July 19, 2007 10:58
19. Posted by ChrisO | July 19, 2007 11:49 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
So how does a Republican filibuster equate to the Dems holding a bill hostage? Funny how there was such outrage against filibusters during the Supreme Court confirmations. Now I see you folks can't even bring yourselves to say the word. The Republicans are filibustering to prevent passage of a bill that a majority of Senators are in favor of. You hypocrites.
19. Posted by ChrisO | July 19, 2007 11:49 AM |
Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Posted on July 19, 2007 11:49
20. Posted by RobLACal. | July 19, 2007 8:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"The Dems are not morally liable for pulling this nation out of Bush's lying war of choice."
You retard ,Democrats HAVE NO MORALS.
"Bush's lying war of choice."
I can't even say "I believe you believe that" because I know that you know you are lying to yourself. It's bad enough that you losers lie to the American People, enough with the chirade already. You are criminal lying frauds , it's a fact, it's reality and common knowledge. It's now a historic fact, sorry Sandy Berger failed. Or do you prefer "the democrat criminal didn't fail, the dumbass just got caught".
The gig is up. the democrat perpetual fraud has been exposed and everyone can see it plain as day, but by all means continue playing the fool. Popcorn is cheap and there is no short supply of you democratic embarassments.
20. Posted by RobLACal. | July 19, 2007 8:14 PM |
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Posted on July 19, 2007 20:14
21. Posted by moseby | July 20, 2007 10:56 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I don't think harry reid could count his labia and come up with the same number twice.
21. Posted by moseby | July 20, 2007 10:56 AM |
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Posted on July 20, 2007 10:56