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Undersecretary of Defense to Hillary Clinton: Stop Helping the Enemy

The Undersecretary of Defense tells it like it is and points out in a letter that Hillary Clinton reinforces enemy propaganda when she insists we need to prepare to surrender to the terrorists in Iraq:

The Pentagon told Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton that her questions about how the U.S. plans to eventually withdraw from Iraq boosts enemy propaganda.

In a stinging rebuke to a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Undersecretary of Defense Eric Edelman responded to questions Clinton raised in May in which she urged the Pentagon to start planning now for the withdrawal of American forces.

A copy of Edelman's response, dated July 16, was obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.

"Premature and public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies in Iraq, much as we are perceived to have done in Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia," Edelman wrote.

He added that "such talk understandably unnerves the very same Iraqi allies we are asking to assume enormous personal risks."

Well, Hillary didn't like that too much, so she stamped her little feet and said she was going to tell on Undersecretary Edelman to his boss:

Clinton spokesman Philippe Reines called Edelman's answer "at once outrageous and dangerous," and said the senator would respond to his boss, Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

Let me help you with that number, Senator. It's 1-703- waa waa waa- waa waa waa waa.

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Comments (48)

Hile Hitlery!And G... (Below threshold)

Hile Hitlery!

And God bless Eric Edelman! May this administration soon "lower their gear" enough to speak plainly, as Mr. Edelman did, about and to these collaborators. What a gutsy man,he will be sorely missed after the inevitable "accident" he is about to have.

Yes, Hilter, you suck, and ... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Yes, Hilter, you suck, and you're a whiner. Bush had to do the work you're ass of a husband wouldn't do.

And the dhimmi comedy conti... (Below threshold)
scrapiron Author Profile Page:

And the dhimmi comedy continues. Wouldn't be the first time someone who crossed Shrillary was found on a park bench, dead.

How many of the congression... (Below threshold)
scrapiron Author Profile Page:

How many of the congressional 'leadership' weenies couldn't find the time to have a conversation with the commanders in Iraq? But tomorrow they'll swear they have the latest information from their friendly terrorist.

mullah cimoc say fake free ... (Below threshold)
mullah cimoc:

mullah cimoc say fake free press of usa twist brain of ameriki people.

cbs the neutralized, nbc and abc both the pro war propaganda each day.

learn how usa agent controlling the tv station: inside the company, a cia diary by phillip agee (dated but relevant-banned book, available for used bookstore online.

ahora usa media him never mention these two word: "neocon" and "weapon mass destruction". why? A: because everyone to remember him israeli spies (neocon) lie usa into war with fake wmd intel. now never mention perle, wurmser, feith, et al.

but kagan of "surge" am him neocon? A: yes, and father too. but him so fat and cannot move. him mental sick to have such the fat body.

some stupid ameriki so pride want kill iraki for no reason even if all the lying of usa government and controlling usa the israeli spy.

this same ameriki so blind not see usa be destroy while him leaderss fiddling the song:

now in usa cheeseburger and fry costing $9.65, plus tax. nice home for the family 500,000 dolar now cheap price. But usa govt say not the inflation

Woman of ameriki too many slut whore of take LBT (low back tattoo) sex every man even the gang member. (in waziristan these gang member get beating and father beated also, and if not repent-- kill both). usa woman not bear the child. just take the meth and the abortion for kill beautiful baby. so sad and not the justice-but have the new car and the cheese nacho of 711.

this mean whitie of ameriki him extinction coming.

but still to love the kill and torture. why him not understand the destroy coming.

Edelman for SecDef under th... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Edelman for SecDef under the next President!

"Edelman for SecDef" indeed... (Below threshold)

"Edelman for SecDef" indeed!

You should have said,"mullah cimoc for Hitlerys' cabinet." That guy's got it on the ball...or is that the rock? As in the rock of crack he must be smoking.

An "presumed" iraki appears... (Below threshold)
LAB:

An "presumed" iraki appears outside the conducted intelligence. The comment monopoly hardens behind the regional gray matter. With this in mind, when can the "logical" translator flip?

You guys once again prove ... (Below threshold)
dr lava:

You guys once again prove you know nothing about the way our government works.

Clinton is a Senator. She, unlike republicans, knows the meaning of the word oversight. She is on a committee that oversees the Pentagon. Edelman is a subordinate.

But you guys accept the fact that Bush had no plan to win the Iraq war so the fact that he has no plan to exit is no big deal.

I take it for granted that things that are crystal, clear, logical and reasoned are totally lost on the Wizbangers.

Hillary is truly despicable... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Hillary is truly despicable for aiding the enemies. No surprise that liberals would defend such a brazen pandering.

http://beldar.blogs.com/beldarblog/2007/07/al-qaedas-plan-.html
Al Qaeda's plan to win the war by winning in the U.S. Capitol

This is a nice way to say it
http://beldar.blogs.com/beldarblog/2007/07/the-bodadpaf-or.html
I'm faulting the Dems* because they're reflexively America-blaming and Bush-hating, selfish, power-hungry, short-sighted, naïve, ignorant of history, and generally foolish beyond measuring -- all of which makes them into useful fools who our enemies can easily exploit, and upon whom our enemies can (and expressly do) therefore rely.
...
*By "Dems" I mean the current Democratic Party leadership (Reid, Pelosi, Dean, etc.) and its current leading candidates for its presidential nomination (Clinton, Obama, and Edwards). I exclude past Democrats like Harry Truman, John Kennedy, and Scoop Jackson, and their single prominent modern counterpart, Joe Lieberman.

Dr. Lava, oh yeah, oh yeah,... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Dr. Lava, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah (pant, pant, pant for the Senator in pants).

That's what she's doing: "oversight." Ugh, what an f'n idiot you are.

Are you this naive in all aspects of your miserable existence? How is it working at the local DMV office? How many of 'em "I love dogs" tags have you sold today???

Dr Lava, Edelman is not Hil... (Below threshold)

Dr Lava, Edelman is not Hillary's subordinate. Period.

Further, when we have Democrats suggesting that the President intentionally destroyed the World Trade Center, and the Senate engaging in cheap theatrics that encourage the enemy, this kind of letter is long overdue.

Just saw this from Rush. Is... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Just saw this from Rush. Is this another example of the left simply repeating AlQ propaganda? Also looks like the surge is working. So the dems have to work harder to suppress the good news and to provide propaganda cover for AlQ again?

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_071907/content/01125106.guest.html
There Is No Civil War in Iraq

What this means is that this is not a sectarian war. What it means is that this is not a civil war. What it means is that the Al-Qaeda in Iraq group is a phony group, its leader fictitious, designed to make it look like there is a civil war in Iraq but actually this is Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, or wherever they are.

Edelman is a member of the ... (Below threshold)

Edelman is a member of the Executive Branch. He is subordinate to the entire chain of command that peaks at the President.

Hillary is a member of the Legislative branch, and not even an official part of the leadership. She has no formal authority over any member of the Executive branch, just like Bush has no sway over any legislative aide or staffer.

"Separation of Powers," Lava. Look it up some time.

J.

Jay, "doctor" Lava (doctor ... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Jay, "doctor" Lava (doctor of what? Lefty talking points) can't get past the entry for "Electoral College" to get to "Separation of Powers."

Dr SoapWhat Jay said... (Below threshold)

Dr Soap
What Jay said.

BTW, stop the Seagulling and stick around and actually defend some of your comments.

Oh, and Mullah Cimoc say gi... (Below threshold)

Oh, and Mullah Cimoc say gibberish. Mullah Cimoc say lots of words, hoping some will pull together and make coherent sentences, and extra words will go away on their own.

Mullah Cimoc also not spell too well, but want everyone to know that Mullah Cimoc and all true Muslims are people of peace -- and if anyone says otherwise, Mullah Cimoc will cut off their heads in the name of Allah the merciful.

Mullah Cimoc also have major problems with concept of irony.

J.

BTW, stop the Seag... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:
BTW, stop the Seagulling and stick around and actually defend some of your comments.

He knows they're indefensible.

It's time to face the fact ... (Below threshold)

It's time to face the fact that this administration has lost the Iraq war and is now trying that tired old tactic of finding a scapegoat. This time that dog ain't gonna hunt. The push back has begun in a big way! Here is just the tip of the iceberg about to hit your beloved neocon titanic.

This is how the 70% of patriotic Americans who are against this war feel.

View discretion is advised for those who've been in the right wing bubble for the past five years. I know the stay at home and don't serve crowd will not be able to handle the whole 7 minutes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19859124/

[email protected], I guess you were so... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

[email protected], I guess you were so busy watching MSNBC (hey, you're one-third their non-staff viewership!) that you missed these three stories just from this week.

Take the blinders off and you'll see that we're not losing.

[email protected] Olberman mime<p... (Below threshold)

[email protected] Olberman mime

Thanks for the link. Envision the Wave sweeping across the Wizbang Stadium in subservience to the Olberman mandate!
Meanwhile, here is what your neighbors think of Congress.


http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27946


OT:Wizbang!!! and ... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

OT:

Wizbang!!! and Media Myth Busters!!! are featured at another blog:

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6509.html

Good lord, could it be the ... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Good lord, could it be the Smartest Woman In Politics might possibly not realize her every word is going to be transmitted worldwide? That every time she says we're losing or lost jihadis have a collective orgasm at the prospect of the head-chopping they'll be able to do once those pesky Al Ameriki people are out of the picture?

Or doesn't it matter at all to her?

I imagine it might, and she probably would be kind of sad to see Iraq fail, but what's more important is to gain the White House in '08 and if burning a country will help her accomplish that, then that's too bad. It sucks to be an Iraqi.

Because really, winning isn't an option. Not if it helps the Republicans.

Back 2 Topic:How a... (Below threshold)
epador:

Back 2 Topic:

How about we try Hilter for Treason at the same time she tries to Impeach W?

Hillary Clinton is "helping... (Below threshold)

Hillary Clinton is "helping the enemy" by asking the Pentagon for some accountability on Iraq? A U.S. senator who is part of the branch of government that is being asked to fund the Iraq war to the tune of billions of dollars is not supposed to ask for some clarity on what the Pentagon's plans are to end the war and withdraw U.S. troops? She is supposed to just keep handing out the money ad infinitum without asking any questions, or be accused of "aiding the enemy"?

Do you realize what an extraordinary thing that is to say to an elected leader in a democracy?

God help us.

Kathy, there is a differenc... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Kathy, there is a difference--a HUGE difference--between asking for information through normal government channels--which the junior Senator from New York has every right to do--and making public accusations that will be transmitted to the terrorists at the speed of light.

And if you can't see the difference, I recommend that you enroll yourself in remedial education.

Adrian BrowneSadly N... (Below threshold)

Adrian Browne
Sadly No?....hmmmmmm...when did I last visit there? Oh, I remember now! They were defending Deb Frisch and trashing Jeff Goldstein.
You keep good company AB. Keep it up...don't be the weak link in the chain!

Kathy is an example of how ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Kathy is an example of how the modern liberals have lost the concept of honor (putting national interest above personal political interest) and national security. Imagine what FDR would think of a senator publicly asking the DoD to publicly reveal their plan to withdraw from Europe after the D-day.

I call BS.....That... (Below threshold)
marc:

I call BS.....

That's gotta be a phony phone number. Any number listed for Shillary or any other Dem MUST be an 800 # right?

How else will the bottom section of "two Americas" ever afford to call them?

AlQ got beaten up. So liber... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

AlQ got beaten up. So liberals have to send them the signal to continue the fight until the liberals can force a surrender in Iraq. They don't care what the commanding generals are saying now.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0707/Liberals_Vow_to_Block_Continued_Iraq_Funding.html
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0707/Liberals_Vow_to_Block_Continued_Iraq_Funding.html

Kim,I have not seen ... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

Kim,
I have not seen that Democrat Party Seal in a while. That one always makes me laugh.

Soon, the Democrats will ha... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Soon, the Democrats will have to send their own to fight for defeat in Iraq, since we now control Anbar, a third of the country in itself, and the Kurds are pacified, southern Iraq is fairly peaceful as well.

Where will they make their stand in Baghdad, I wonder? Send Kos; he doesn't care about casualties.

Anybody remember that hilarious Monty Python of Mr. "Hilter" and his group of Germans lunching in a seaside village in England. That's the genesis of Hillary's new nickname.

Sadly no? Gee Adrian you d... (Below threshold)

Sadly no? Gee Adrian you do keep slimy company.

Kathy, there is a differ... (Below threshold)

Kathy, there is a difference--a HUGE difference--between asking for information through normal government channels--which the junior Senator from New York has every right to do--and making public accusations that will be transmitted to the terrorists at the speed of light.

I can't even begin to fathom what you mean by "normal government channels" and what leads you to conclude Hillary Clinton used "abnormal" government channels. The woman directed a request for information to the Pentagon about what the Pentagon's plans for withdrawal are. How was she supposed to have asked that? By Morse code or passenger pigeon? By meeting the Pentagon generals in an underground bunker? I mean, WTF?

I don't know what you mean by "public accusations" either. What "public accusations"? She asked for the Pentagon's plan for withdrawal. That's an accusation? How?

And btw, Hillary Clinton has every right to make accusations as long as she can support them with facts. There is no law yet against a member of Congress confronting military leaders and asking for answers on a taxpayer-funded foreign policy.

I have no idea how you imagine demanding answers to why our military is still in Iraq, what we are doing there, and how the hell Bush plans to get us out, and when, is going to help terrorists any more than they already have been helped by going into Iraq in the first place screwing up everything we could possibly screw up over the past four years, and refusing to leave or even make plans for leaving when it's obvious that our presence in the middle of a civil war and against the will of the Iraqi people is only strengthening both the sectarian violence and the Iraqi insurgency.

Kathy is an example of how the modern liberals have lost the concept of honor (putting national interest above personal political interest) and national security.

This country's national interest is not being served by remaining in Iraq. The fact is that invading and occupying Iraq for the past four years and counting has harmed our national interest more severely, more profoundly, and quite possibly more irreparably than Al Qaeda could ever have dreamed of doing. I would like to know where you get the nerve to lecture me about the national interest when you continue to support a policy that is destroying this country and putting us in unimaginable danger. You are not the arbiter or the decider of what policies are in the national interest. Your authority and expertise to make that judgment is the same as every other American's, neither less nor more.

C-C-GI can see why y... (Below threshold)

C-C-G
I can see why you are so uniformed about the ethnic dynamics in Iraq. If all I did was live in the right wing bubble I too would be confused.

The articles you linked to had to do with the Sunni controlled Al Anbar Provence. Having successfully driven out the Shia they now have control of the areas natural resources and can concentrate on driving out the foreign fighters like AQ. Just as the Kurdish controlled north is relatively calm so can be said about Al Anbar. Our troops can be very proud of what has taken place in Al Anbar.

To think that this dynamic can be transferred to the vast mixed areas of Iraq is a fools game. We will continue to see mass casualty events in the mixed areas like Baghdad while the Shia and Sunni continue their civil war. Both sides will be equally ready to support AQ to distract US forces while the struggle for domination continues. This is why the talk of a Unity Government is a joke. The Sunni will never give up oil revenue now that they have control of it.

As much as you don't want to believe it the calm in Al Anbar and the Kurdish north is proof that the partition of Iraq is the recipe for success and as long as US forces are in the way the longer it will take for one side or the other to prevail in the mixed areas. Don't give this BS about anarchy breaking out if we pull out either, anarchy is already there. Just watch the news on any given morning. It's the mixed ethnic areas that are a mess.

This is the reality the American People are waking up to in ever increasing numbers. The reason congress has such low poll numbers is not because they don't support the war it's becouse they are unable to stop it. The American People are sick and tired of our Sons and Daughters coming home with missing limbs or in flag draped coffins while the Sons and Daughters of the upper class question our patriotism and watch from the sidelines.

So go ahead and call Mrs. Clinton a traitor (and by proxiy the majority of Americans who support her views on this war) and see how well you do in the next election. If scapegoating is all the right has left than god help us all.

PS
The reason I linked to the Olberman video was not to change your mind but to show you the raw anger pent up in the American People when we are call traitors for having the nerve to ask questions of our elected officials. I'll bet my last dollar you were to much of a coward to face this anger by watching, weren't you?

This woman wants to be Comm... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

This woman wants to be Commander in Chief. How on earth can anyone vote for her for President when she claims we lost this war prior to our military doing so. A move that far to the left will make old Hillary unelectable to the middle and right. No matter what the polls show, because of who is polled, the 61 million who voted for Bush in the last Presidential election will vote against Hillary Rodham Clinton.

I don't think that anyone w... (Below threshold)

I don't think that anyone who watches Keith Olbermann should lecture anyone else about living in a bubble ... in the case of Olbermann, a bubble with fewer viewers than QVC's 3 AM "Diamonique" segment.

Robin,I would like t... (Below threshold)

Robin,
I would like to see your ratings chart to back up your claim. I know you won't provide on because you know your claim is not true.

Again the link was to show the raw angered response of calling your fellow Americans traitors for questioning this war. It is not in my opinion a winning strategy for the right but instead the last throes of a failed administration.

[email protected], oddly enough, you a... (Below threshold)

[email protected], oddly enough, you and your fellow libs here show us your "raw anger" on every forum available on a regular basis, so I'm not sure of what bubble it is you speak of. As if Keith Olberman's "raw anger" is what we need to set us straight. That some reject your ideals or simply don't embrace them does not mean they are in denial. It means they reject your ideals. It has nothing to do with bubbles, denial or any other adjective you can conjure up to display your "raw anger".

You're mad. We get it.

Yeah, [email protected], your right, I... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Yeah, [email protected], your right, I am a coward. I am afraid of Olbermam. How delusional are you? You should name yourself [email protected] I have seen the BDS anger many times since 2000. Every one the hates GW now started that hatred in 2000. Iraq or anything else has nothing to do with it. And of course, like most liberals, you actually think you can see into the future on how GW's ranking will be. You are truly amazing. I suggest you get a life, you and Kathy take up yoga or some other meditative therapy so you can get rid of the hatred inside you. It does not harm GW or us, only you. ww

Kathy, I am sorry, there is... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Kathy, I am sorry, there is no help for your advanced case of BDS.

A request for information from the Pentagon does not normally include stepping in front of TV cameras or calling the NY Times to announce that request.

As I said before, if you cannot comprehend that--and clearly you cannot--you need to enroll in remedial education.

For kathy and [email protected]:... (Below threshold)
moseby:

For kathy and [email protected]:

I will burn 2 tires in my backyard in your honor today.

Kathy: "This country's nati... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

Kathy: "This country's national interest is not being served by remaining in Iraq."

Kathy in the same exact paragraph: "You are not the arbiter or the decider of what policies are in the national interest."

So once again we see the liberal mantra in it's full glory. "Do as I say, not as I do. You are not the arbiter of what is in the Nation's best interest, but I on the other hand, am!"

Let me quote C-C-G as well, "A request for information from the Pentagon does not normally include stepping in front of TV cameras or calling the NY Times to announce that request. As I said before, if you cannot comprehend that--and clearly you cannot--you need to enroll in remedial education."

AMEN To that!

Uh [email protected] old spongebob sq... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Uh [email protected] old spongebob square pants beats Olbe. lmao

WW,This is not about... (Below threshold)

WW,
This is not about BDS or BALS (Bush Ass Licker Syndrome) this is about the upper class of America trying to scapegoat the American People because we have the nerve to ask questions and to do over site.That is what the issue is, not who has the best ratings or who loves or hates who. Nice try at deflecting the subject though, I'll give you an A+.

The mullah who mocks is alm... (Below threshold)
kim:

The mullah who mocks is almost certainly American, with an amusing schtick and fetishes hanging out to dry. But it is fun to imagine him as some Persian or Indonesian holy man with a holy machine. The syntax is the giveaway.

Someone should tell him that LBT means Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgendered.
==============================

Yes, jhow is correct, Spong... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Yes, jhow is correct, Spongebob is more insightful than Olby. Alot more.

And Spongebob has a sense of humor. KO has none. He's a loser, like you Dims.

Live, first of all QVC does... (Below threshold)

Live, first of all QVC does not have a 3 AM Diamonique segment. It is called a "joke", I'm sure your dictionary will explain the word.

Secondly, any set of Nielsen ratings for cable news ( Drudge prints them periodically by the way ) will show you that Keith Olbermann is the lowest rated cable news show. If he wasn't already on the joke network, he'd have been cancelled years ago for his abysmal ratings.

So the odds that my joke is "fake but accurate" is good - in that QVC's 3AM show probably does have more viewers that Olbermann.




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