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NOW Hear This

For some reason, Mr. Joel Schwartzberg of the PBS Show NOW (formerly hosted by Lyndon Johnson buttmonkey, drunk driver, and all-around waste of skin Bill Moyers, I believe) decided that I would be a good person to send regular updates on the latest schlock they're airing on my dime.

Yesterday, he sent me a doozy.

Please see below long and short listings for NOW #330

Short listing: 7.27.07
How secure is your right to vote? NOW investigates a secret Republican plan designed to disqualify voters.

Long Listing: 7.27.07
Was there a White House plot to illegally suppress votes in 2004? Is there a similar plan for the upcoming elections? On Friday July 27 at 8:30 pm (check local listings), NOW examines documents and evidence that
points to a Republican Party plan designed to keep Democrats from voting, by targeting people based on their race and ethnicity. Congress is investigating, and so are we. We speak with David Iglesias, one of eight fired U.S. Attorneys, who says he lost his job because he refused to go along with the White House plan to suppress votes.

The NOW website at www.pbs.org/now will feature an extended interview with David Iglesias and reveal key e-mails and documents covered in our investigation.

Naturally, I answered him appropriately:

Let me save you a little homework, Joel. Here is a link to an article we posted November 7, 2006. It shows Philadelphia Democratic poll watcher Carlos Mantos freely admitting that he helped block Republican poll watchers from entering the polling area and told voters to vote straight Democratic tickets. Open and shut case of voter suppression and intimidation, wouldn't you say?

Link

No need to give us credit, Joel. I'm sure that being such a fine, upstanding, honest, non-partisan, objective journalist, you'll give Mr. Mantos an appropriate level of exposure as the Republican shenanigans you've breathlessly uncovered.

J.

Jay Tea
Main Page Editor
www.wizbangblog.com

I'm not holding my breath. It's a lot easier to talk breathlessly about "conspiracies" and "plots" than to look into actual cases where the guys admit on video precisely what they're doing.

A while ago I asked Mr. Schwartzberg to stop sending me his crap. Now, though, I'm kind of glad he didn't -- but I wonder if he wishes he had.


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Comments (85)

Waste of skin, bah; if it w... (Below threshold)
kim:

Waste of skin, bah; if it weren't holding him in, he'd be all over. Perish the thought.
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Secret plansPlots<br... (Below threshold)

Secret plans
Plots
Conspiracies

Oh my!

Kind of a cousin to "caging... (Below threshold)
Allen:

Kind of a cousin to "caging votes", isn't it?

Where's bD to cue the 'toon... (Below threshold)
kim:

Where's bD to cue the 'toon, Ward Churchill?
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My father was interviewed b... (Below threshold)

My father was interviewed by Bill Moyers 25 or so years ago about Savings & Loans. My grandfather had founded in one of the northernmost neighborhoods here in Chicago, and my father (a former Liberal) agreed to give Moers an interview.

Moyers came in with his story already decided (this was before Charles Keating and the S&L debacle in Arizona, which will prove to be John McCain's undoing if he *by some crazy coincidence* becomes the Republican nominee) and treated my Dad like absolute dirt. I think it was one of the defining moments in my Dad's transition from the politics of his youth (that and the aftermath of voting for Jimmy Carter, lol).

Keating was as cynical as K... (Below threshold)
kim:

Keating was as cynical as Kerry, and McCain gullible to both.
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It's like having the train ... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash:

It's like having the train wreck delivered right to your door for your viewing pleasure, so I can understand your reluctance to strike the delete key on Joel. The pathology of liberalism just cannot restrain itself from clinical demonstrations. The self-mutilation may be a response to the stress of being unable to reconcile with reality, or a psychopathic mechanism to create that reconciliation by carving out the offending reason. Ich habe schadenfreude. Und Ihnen?

If htere were anything to t... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

If htere were anything to this GOP "vote suppression" story, we would have heard about it long ago on endless MSM broadcasts. Apparently it's so discredited even they have stayed away from it.

<a href="http://www.jsonlin... (Below threshold)
pretzel_logic:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=418855

Or this gem in SE Wisconsin that gets no national play. These guys get a slap and the prosecutor keeps his job somehow.

"(formerly hosted by Lyn... (Below threshold)
WarIsPeace:

"(formerly hosted by Lyndon Johnson buttmonkey, drunk driver, and all-around waste of skin Bill Moyers, I believe)"

If that be the case, then you have less justification for your own existence than one of Moyers' steaming turds.

C'mon, folks, we haven't he... (Below threshold)
kim:

C'mon, folks, we haven't heard any frenzied wailing from the Diebolders, lately; someone is testing the waters to see if they still lurk down in the muck at pondbottom.
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I assume that in the future... (Below threshold)
JFO:

I assume that in the future, as per jay Tea's descriptive terms, we will all refer to our president as President Bush, drunk driver.

What is this "we" stuff? ww... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

What is this "we" stuff? ww

PNAC!LIHOP!<... (Below threshold)
Son Of The Godfather:

PNAC!

LIHOP!

NIHOP!

It's as if the leftards want there to be conspiracies all around them.

The voting in New Mexico la... (Below threshold)

The voting in New Mexico last time round was a fiasco. Liberal Democrat sorts blogged and reported that going to the early polling stations and leaving their ballots was about as reassuring as it would be mailing something from a Guatemalan post office.

The "paper trail" that Richardson talked about so fondly at the Democrat debate the other night was a disaster. In our district volunteers to count ballots (or recount them) sat for hours and hours without counting a single ballot because they apparently couldn't be found.

If *anyone* pressured Iglasias to investigate voting in New Mexico they were DOING THEIR JOBS.

WarisPeace[ofdung]... (Below threshold)
marc:

WarisPeace[ofdung]

If that be the case, then you have less justification for your own existence than one of Moyers' steaming turds.

That's all up got? Does that mean you agree and just want to fling poo or does it mean your to ignorant to comment on the content of the post?

JFO:

I assume that in the future, as per jay Tea's descriptive terms, we will all refer to our president as President Bush, drunk driver.

Who's "all," do you have Cindy Sheehan in your pocket?

"Odd" isn't it? Tony Snow becomes the WH spokesmodel and he gets excoriated to the point of people wishing he were dead from cancer.

Yet Moyers and George Stephanopolis (sp?) gets a pass after going from being admin lap dogs to "respectable journalist."

I guess they cancel each ot... (Below threshold)
jp2:

I guess they cancel each other out right? No Republican should ever face voter fraud investigations again, thanks to this great linking.

No Jp2, Democrats, who perf... (Below threshold)

No Jp2, Democrats, who perfected the modern science of vote fraud, need to stop pretending that they never engage in it.

wwWell, the "we st... (Below threshold)
JFO:

ww

Well, the "we stuff "is just an attempt that "we" be accurate and equal with the "drunk driver" card.

Marc, as is the case with you frequently, your response makes absolutely no sense.

JFO, The topic is PBS NOW p... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

JFO, The topic is PBS NOW program conceived and started by Bill Moyers. How you want to put GW in this topic is beyond me. So, go ahead. Now that it is over, can we get back to the topic?
Voter Fraud: Acorn, democrat, Cigarettes for votes, Democrat, felons voting, democrats. The list is too long. My fingers would get sore. ww

ww:You continue to... (Below threshold)
JFO:

ww:

You continue to prove that you don't read the posts. The author - Jay Tea - in describing Bill Moyer used the he's a "drunk driver" card. That's clearly part of the topic and is what I chose to respond to. You just don't like it when the other side speaks the truth.

"Open and shut case of vote... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

"Open and shut case of voter suppression and intimidation, wouldn't you say?"

I don't know Jay why don't you tell us? Since the FBI open an investigation why don't you tell us what they found? It's not like the guy was operating a phone jamming operation or suppressing the votes of minorities in multiple locations (caging). That stuff is complicated and may involve conspiracies that would take years to investigate and bring to trial. This was just one guy that admitted to what he did so the guy should be in the Fed Pen by now.

Right Jay?

More often than not the Dem... (Below threshold)
Buckeye:

More often than not the Dems accuse the Republicans of the very things they (Dems)are doing or have done or are thinking of doing.

BTW: Throwing out the military votes in 2000 was despicable.

reminds me of the very acti... (Below threshold)
zipity:

reminds me of the very active Democratic lady who moved to California from Chicago. In her will she made it clear she wanted to be buried back in Chicago because she wanted to "stay active in Democratic elections"..... having said that, Republicans are amateurs compared to the Demo's. Daly in Chicago would deliver however many votes it took...Joe Kennedy arguably paid for his son's Presidential election, with a little help from his known ballot box stuffer VP candidate, LBJ. In fact Al Gore scores lower on the integrety scale than Richard Nixon since Nixon "lost" the 1960 election by a smaller margin than Gore lost in 2000, but he stepped aside for the good of the country....pretty sad Demo's

Okay, so the topic is Bill ... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Okay, so the topic is Bill Moyers program NOW, JT submitted the drunk driver comment and JFO thinks now it is wide open to attack GW. See how BDS works? It is an illness. A pathology. It is very safe to say that a vast majority of voter fraud is on the dims side. ww

Funny you bring up "phone j... (Below threshold)

Funny you bring up "phone jamming," Barney. You see, that happened right here in New Hampshire, and I have consistently called for maximum punishment for the assholes who did it. I also called for a civil fine of the New Hampshire Republican party that was about 16 times greater than the amount they eventually settled for.

I'm consistent, Barney. I don't like it when ANYONE asses around with elections.

In this case, we have nebulous conspiracies and allegations about Republican shenanigans, while that video is -- to these layman's eyes -- prima facie evidence of a federal offense. And as best as I can determine, Jack Shit was done about it.

So when this partisan asshat decides to use MY tax money to peddle his bullshit and pretend that it's all one-sided, I get pissed. Very pissed. So I sent him some hard proof of just what he was investigating -- saving him a lot of homework.

I haven't received a reply yet. If I do, I'll post it.

I'm not holding my breath, though.

J.

Jay, so the FBI covered up ... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Jay, so the FBI covered up a clear case of voter fraud and Gonzo did nothing about it, but felt it was important to fire several AEs all over the country for not pursuing voter fraud cases (by Dems)?

That makes a lot of sense.

Barney, you're awfully inte... (Below threshold)

Barney, you're awfully interested in seeing that video dismissed. It's like you have no opinion of your own, so you feel the need to poke and prod at my opinions for your own entertainment.

Typical. Attack others' opinions while carefully withholding your own so you can hold the "moral high ground." It's the coward's approach.

J.

ww:Wow, your readi... (Below threshold)
JFO:

ww:

Wow, your reading comprehension is bad. But first, anyone, democrat or republican who commits voter fraud ought to spend a lot of time in jail. Fair enough? Do we agree? It isn't one-sided, it's practiced by both. Who does it more? I don't know. Neither do you or anyone else. It's despicable, it's criminal and it ought to be found out and dealt with appropriately.

As to BDS - that's an idiot argument and when you make it you lose the argument - the same as the idiots on my side who holler chickenhawk. So, put that stupid assertion away.

My response to the "drunk driver" point raised by Jay was sarcasm. But then I wouldn't expect you to understand that. Now, are you done with your LDS - even you can probably guess what the L stands for.

JFO, I deeply regret mentio... (Below threshold)

JFO, I deeply regret mentioning Moyers' DWI arrest.

Solely because it gave you a wonderful excuse to ignore the rest of the article and harp over a cheap shot. You built that into a diversion for about one-quarter of the comments. Well done.

Here's an offer for you: I withdraw the drunk driving remark, and you address the substance of the piece -- that the creators of this PBS piece went digging for Republican misdeeds, and chose to willfully far more substantial evidence of Democratic election-rigging. Sound fair?

J.

That is the "TRUTH OF THE... (Below threshold)
RobLACal.:

That is the "TRUTH OF THE MATTER" and they just can't stand the fact that they are a party of incompetant lying criminal frauds. I like to refer to this fact, this infantile tactic by the bed wetting democrats as "TRANFERENCE".

You are 100% spot on Buckeye. I can already hear teeth gritting.

zipity, too bad you don't k... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

zipity, too bad you don't know what you are talking about. Nixon lost the popular vote, Gore won the popular vote. Kennedy won the election with 303 electoral votes to Dick's 219. IL counted for 27 electoral votes, so even if Kennedy lost IL he still would have had enough electoral votes to win the presidency.

Bush won 271 to 266, so on every count you were wrong.

Jay is outraged that 15% of... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Jay is outraged that 15% of the PBS budget ($420-Mil) comes from tax payers, but has no problem that we have blow over $500-Bil on a war in Iraq. Wolfie said the would be paid for out of Iraqi oil revenue.

Aren't you mad that due to mismanagement by the Bush administration we went from $0 costs to $500-Billion and growing (projected at $2-Tril)?

You're awfully good at aski... (Below threshold)

You're awfully good at asking questions, Barney -- especially ones that let you change the subject and avoid answering them yourself. Would you care to make a change in your conduct, or find somewhere else to comment?

J.

Jay Tea:I could ca... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Jay Tea:

I could care less what the PBS folks did - I like PBS, I support PBS, you don't. I think PBS is important, you think it is not. As to the really important issue - voter fraud and not PBS - I stated my view in #29

Of course, the fact that Mo... (Below threshold)

Of course, the fact that Moyers worked for one of the most notorious of electoral cheats, Lyndon Johnson, should not escape notice.

JFOMarc, as is... (Below threshold)
marc:

JFO

Marc, as is the case with you frequently, your response makes absolutely no sense.

IT wouldn't... to you. In fact it more than likely left a mark as it skimmed over your head.

JT:

Would you care to make a change in your conduct, or find somewhere else to comment?

Many would consider that an early Christmas gift.

Gee Jay a little touchy tod... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Gee Jay a little touchy today? Did you guys change the posting rules, and forget to send me the email.

My points are simple. You want PBS to include a voter fraud case in their program that was already been investigated by the FBI. Prior, investigated, cases are not the focus of the show but current allegations are. If you have an alleged case of Democratic voter fraud that would be valid, but you are using this to piss-on PBS.

You made statements about wasted tax dollars and a clear case of voter fraud. Both are valid topics of discussion.

Barney, the policy remains ... (Below threshold)

Barney, the policy remains unchanged:

Each individual author is responsible for monitoring the comments to their posts, and ultimately determines which comments merit deletion. All Wizbang authors are briefed on the site policy, but are given some degree of latitude to police their own comment sections. Complaints about a particular author can be addressed to the editor.

Of course, I AM the editor, so that means you address your complaints to me. I promise you I will give your issues a full and fair deliberation before deciding against you.

OK, that's a minor glitch in the wording. It should say that if your problem is with the editor, take it up with the publisher -- Kevin.

You've said repeatedly that the FBI investigated Mantos. I can't find any evidence of his exoneration anywhere. Care to provide a source for your declaration?

J.

If we can refer to Mr. Bush... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

If we can refer to Mr. Bush as Drunk Driver, can we refer to Mr. Clinton as Admitted Liar, since he admitted to making false statements?

Can we refer to Joe Biden as Plagiarist?

Can we refer to Robert Byrd as Racist former KKK Grand Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops--which ranks, by the way, equate to "recruiter" and "local chapter leader (thus eliminating the "he was just a follower" excuse)?

And can we refer to Edward Moore "Ted" Kennedy as The "Hero" of Chappaquiddick?

I'm willing to accept Drunk Driver Bush if you'll promise not to whine and moan about the above appellations.

Why is it Democrats go on a... (Below threshold)
Eric:

Why is it Democrats go on and on about voter fraud and intimidation, but actual, real-life cases seem to be perpetrated almost exclusively by Democrats?

There was the tire slashing, the gubernatorial race in Washington, more votes than registered voters in Illinois... if Republicans aren't engaging in voter fraud, maybe they should, if only to stay even.

Jay, I found this at Redsta... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Jay, I found this at Redstate:

"RNC lawyers have headed to the scene of the incidents, which are occurring in mostly hispanic precinct locations. The District Attorney has also been contacted.

More from the ground: Reports of voter intimidation by son-in-law of Philadelphia City Commissioner in 19th Ward. Carlos Mantos is not allowing Republican poll watchers with valid poll-watching certificates monitor polling places."


This and based on your statement:
"Open and shut case of voter suppression and intimidation, wouldn't you say?"

Led me to ask the rhetorical question of the outcome of the FBI investigation, and I asked you to provide the outcome of the investigation.

Are you telling me that the Gonzo justice department did not investigate the case when there was clear evidence and complaints from the RNC? What did the state DA conclude?

If there were no follow-up investigations that must mean that no violation occurred.

PS, the video audio is so poor that I can not hear where Carlos states that he blocked the duties of the Pub poll watcher. Can you please provide a transcript?

Barney ,do you really th... (Below threshold)
RobLACal.:

Barney ,do you really think criminal frauds and liars like you have an ounce of credibility?

Mismanagement? That is an opinion from a democrat turd polisher.

Incompetance and complete failure from the BJ Admin. is a fact.

"$0 costs"

Prove it, and since your memory is only good for 24 hours GEORGE W BUSH "WON" the election, GLOBAL SWARMING GORE LOST THE ELECTION and didn't win shit loser.

Rob:"The oil reven... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Rob:

"The oil revenues of Iraq could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years...We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." - Paul Wolfowitz, [Congressional Testimony, 3/27/03]

Mismanagement? That is an opinion from a democrat turd polisher.

"It is unknowable how long that conflict [the war in Iraq] will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Don Rumsfeldt 2/7/03

It's probably been posted b... (Below threshold)
Scott in CA:

It's probably been posted before, but the solution is a cancellation of ALL voter registration in the country.

EVERYONE would be required to re-register with PROOF of citizenship and residence. Photo ID for all voters at time of registration and at time of voting.

I imagine we would see a 40% drop in Democrat "voters" in the inner cities.

Barney, can you show eviden... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Barney, can you show evidence of convictions for Republicans for voter fraud?

Or do you just demand that sort of evidence for one party?

Inquiring minds want to know.

It's even easier than that,... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

It's even easier than that, Scott.

Just require photo ID with a name that matches at the polls.

And then do the "purple finger" that they used in Iraq to keep people from voting twice.

Of course, the Dems would do everything they could to stop either measure, as illustrated by this story where a Democrat Attorney General refused to implement a voter-ID law... which has now been ruled constitutional by the state supreme court.

Dems don't want real voting reform, they just want to demagogue the issue.

Here's an interesting piece... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Here's an interesting piece by Josh Marshall on the JD's election fraud investigations.

Ah, yes... more talking poi... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Ah, yes... more talking points... literally. From one of the principal mouthpieces of the American left.

How comforting to know that the lefties still wanna blame Rove for everything.

Tell me, Mantis, how many voter fraud cases did Janet Reno prosecute?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Marc:For a person ... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Marc:

For a person who could care less what I think of you, isn't it odd that you find it necessary to respond to what I said on a different thread on this thread? Me thinks you protest, err lie too much. Too funny. A stalker on Whizbang.

C-C-G:

As usual you don't get the point - way over your head. As to the issue of voter fraud, is it your position that only democrats engage in it?

JFO (Just F***ing Obtuse?):... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

JFO (Just F***ing Obtuse?):

Where did I ever say that?

I just want the lefties here (yourself included) to admit that the Democrats are not squeeky-cleen on this issue. Then we can discuss how to stop it in both parties.

However, those only interested in partisan politics won't admit that both parties have their bad apples.

Buttmonkey? Classy. 1980 cl... (Below threshold)
jp2:

Buttmonkey? Classy. 1980 classy.

And didn't you vote for two guys with DUIs? Twice?

Tell me, Mantis, how man... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Tell me, Mantis, how many voter fraud cases did Janet Reno prosecute?

I don't know. And I'm not going to bother to find out for you, considering the last time I bothered to answer one of your challenges, concerning the ACLU, you never bothered to respond.

Anyway, I thought this thread was about recent voter fraud, and the post I linked was discussing that.

Did you read it?

I'll never forget seeing in... (Below threshold)
Jo:

I'll never forget seeing interviews with (I believe it was) Haitans in the 2000 election down in Florida. A bunch of them told reporters they were handed ballots already punched for Al Gore, and sometimes they were handed several ballots. Of course only Fox News interviewed them because the others in the MSM are shills for the democrat party.

Whenever the dems whine about the 2000 election being stolen, don't believe it. THEY tried to steal it and didn't succeed and it EATS THEM ALIVE.

Yeeehaw. Democrats in pain is a beautiful thing.

Mantis, I was referring to ... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Mantis, I was referring to the most recent administration of the party that does not currently occupy the Oval Office. It's not like I dug up FDR's administration, for God's sake.

And you are clearly not providing examples because there aren't any.

Nice try on the spin, tho. 3 out of 10.

I was referring to the m... (Below threshold)
mantis:

I was referring to the most recent administration of the party that does not currently occupy the Oval Office. It's not like I dug up FDR's administration, for God's sake.

And we were talking about whether there is evidence of election fraud in 2006. You brought up Reno just to bring up Clinton, not because it added anything to the conversation.

I linked to a post that discusses the recent push to prosecute alleged election fraud, and how that effort has come up with very little. What that has to do with Reno's record, I have no idea. If anything, it affirms it, assuming you are correct and not much fraud was prosecuted while she was AG. Did you read the post I linked, or are you just spouting shit without even knowing what you're rebutting?

And you are clearly not providing examples because there aren't any.

No, I'm not digging shit up for you because you won't even come back to admit you were full of shit when proven wrong. You gave a challenge here, which I responded to here, but you couldn't bother to admit it, despite your comment that,

On that point, I expect an echoing silence.

So why should I bother? And do you really believe that no election fraud was prosecuted while Clinton was in office?

Man, you're dumb...

I like PBS, I supp... (Below threshold)
I like PBS, I support PBS, you don't.
Since I am an American and do pay income taxes, I do support them. I have no choice. If I were to fail to support them, the government would send people with guns to take away my property, my liberty, or my life.
C-C-GOpen mouth, i... (Below threshold)
JFO:

C-C-G

Open mouth, insert your foot- for the umpteenth time. To save you the time to scroll back to my comment at #29 here are my words:

" But first, anyone, democrat or republican who commits voter fraud ought to spend a lot of time in jail. Fair enough? Do we agree? It isn't one-sided, it's practiced by both. Who does it more? I don't know. Neither do you or anyone else. It's despicable, it's criminal and it ought to be found out and dealt with appropriately."


If you weren't such a blind reactive partisan CCG you'd actually be worth a laugh or two. Do you ready ANYTHING but what you want to see on these threads?

P.S.Nice mouth for... (Below threshold)
JFO:

P.S.

Nice mouth for a person who wears your Christianity on your sleeve.What would Jesus think?

"the PBS Show NOW (forme... (Below threshold)
FreedomFries:

"the PBS Show NOW (formerly hosted by Lyndon Johnson buttmonkey, drunk driver, and all-around waste of skin Bill Moyers,"

Jay Tea, given that the mention of Moyers leads to the sort of tag as above it seems eminently apropo that when one has occasion to reference, oh, say the First Lady, one might do so as follows:

"Bush's hose monkey, drunk driver and boyfriend-killer, Laura Bush"

or in the case of the Veep:

"W's trainer, twice-drunken driver, war-mongerer, 'Johnson' Cheney."

We haven't heard from jim. ... (Below threshold)

We haven't heard from jim. Did he pass the baton to Barney when the subject changed?

JFO, you have reached a new... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

JFO, you have reached a new low. Now you are mocking someones Christianity. You have yet to stay on topic at all in all the comments you entered. Again, for the hard of reading, the topic is the program NOW dedicating a broadcast of voter fraud perpetrated by the republicans. A totally one sided show. Obviously to lead people to think republicans are evil. Now. Do you get it? Why don't you stick with your coloring books and leave the heavy lifting to us. Your attacks and snide remarks are growing very old, boring and tedious. I have seen your comments on many posts and you seldom stay on topic and/or contribute to the debate. Thems the facts, deal with them. ww

Oh yeah, I think your monik... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Oh yeah, I think your monikor stands for: Just F--K Off. ww

ww:You're a hoot.<... (Below threshold)
JFO:

ww:

You're a hoot.

I try to be, but it is oh, ... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

I try to be, but it is oh, so hard. ww

JFO, Jesus himself called p... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

JFO, Jesus himself called people hypocrites (several times), a brood of vipers, and asked how they were going to escape the fires of hell. I gotta run to work in a few minutes, so I can't look up the references now, but I'll be glad to later.

I dunno what kind of wussy Jesus you follow, I follow one who calls a spade a spade.

CCG:Oh the hypocri... (Below threshold)
JFO:

CCG:

Oh the hypocrisy that comes from your soul - amazing for a holier -than-thou person like you. By the way, did you read my comment about the substance of the thread? I doubt it.

I could care less what the ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

I could care less what the PBS folks did - I like PBS, I support PBS,
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In other words, JFO doesn't care whether PBS folks are hypocrites or not since PBS fits his liberal bias. Then he has the gall to accuse other of hypocrisy. I think this is a cheap distraction tactic of liberals who run out of args.

"It is unknowable how long ... (Below threshold)
RobLACal.:

"It is unknowable how long that conflict [the war in Iraq] will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Don Rumsfeldt 2/7/03"

What's the problem , do you need this translated into democrat?

It is shameless despicable and cowardly how the democrats whine about the war while simultaneously obstructing President Bush at every turn and giving aid and comfort to the enemy merrily spreading their propaganda. Democrats commiting treason then bitching about the lack of progress as they stand in the forefront obstructing for all to see.

Next time you democrats whine and moan about the war have some balls and take credit for your part in it, traitorous cowards.

Rob, It is a typica... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Rob,
It is a typical dishonest arg that liberals used. The military campaign was shorter with far less casualty than the prediction (10000 deaths in the military campaign (ie the war) to topple Saddam. Then they used the "war" to mean the occupation of Iraq as well. Conveniently forgot that Bush mentioned that the GWOT may take a generation and more than a presidency. It is simply a dishonest use of "words".

Man, you're dumb...-... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Man, you're dumb...
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An adhominen to attack to distract again. Again, if the Dems care about voter fraud, why do they oppose voter ID law? (I am waiting for the typical liberal talking points now).

Go back to NOW hypocrisy. Here is a list of Dem voter frauds for NOW to investigate

http://michellemalkin.com/2004/09/29/stop-voter-fraud-require-id/

I'm glad deleting you from ... (Below threshold)

I'm glad deleting you from the list slipped off my TO DO list, Jay.

Joel

So, LoveAmerica Immigrant,<... (Below threshold)
FreedomFries:

So, LoveAmerica Immigrant,

"Here is a list of Dem voter frauds for NOW to investigate"

you just love to eat & chew on Malkin's used brown toilet paper. Be sure to floss before you grin, Asshat.

(Editor's note: FreedomFries won't be making any more comments like this around here. Or comments of any kind, for that matter.)

Re: the comment above... (Below threshold)

Re: the comment above

A fair look into why Voter ID laws may have negative ramifications, whether intended or not.

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/235/

JoelThese Wizbots,... (Below threshold)
FreedomFries:

Joel

These Wizbots, posters and commenters, always kill the messenger. Anything that points to a conclusion at variance w/ "the Moon is made of green cheese" or the "Earth is flat" is demeaned rather than answered because they can't cope w/ reality while defending their upside down vision of the world.

Hence Jay Tea's baselexx ad hominem fired at Moyers.

A self-proclaimed "fair" lo... (Below threshold)

A self-proclaimed "fair" look at Voter ID, attached to a link for a site already isentified as partisan, hostile to feedback, and, well, even more hypocritical than Dan Rather's escapades or yore.

Now that's funny.

you just love to eat & chew... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

you just love to eat & chew on Malkin's used brown toilet paper. Be sure to floss before you grin, Asshat.
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Your whole post is full of ad-hominent attacks. In other words, it is full of sh*t (using JFO 's terminology). And you are here to spread that garbage.

Again, PBS article has nothing but cheap liberal talking points about minority, elderly etc.... Why not have voter ID laws and then have public transportation to register these folks and make sure they have the proper identification for voting? Liberals are not shy to spend public money in any case. Why not do this in the Dem precints? Just look at which party is trying to make it harder for voter fraud.

Again, if Dems truly care about voter fraud, then why not implement voter ID law? NOW effort is blatantly hypocritical. That 's why liberals have to resort to their cheap distraction tactics.

LAI, Yep your right abou... (Below threshold)
RobLACal.:

LAI, Yep your right about that. There is nothing honest coming out the mouths of liberals these days. I don't ever expect any honesty from the democrat party ever. It doesn't exit , their party is a lie , a sick farce and a groteque debauchery worthy of the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah.

There is no excuse or forgiveness for treason or betraying and attacking your own Country or the sole purpose of satifying ones evil thirst for POWER and delusions of vainglorious. The excuse or saying "it's just Politics" is dead and should have been burried with their "N" word.

i have,nt watched PBS is ye... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

i have,nt watched PBS is years its too liberal and too left-wing i mean its the PEOPLE BRAINWASHING SYSTEM

"It is simply a dishonest... (Below threshold)
RobLACal.:

"It is simply a dishonest use of "words."

This is why

DEMOCRATS "ARE"

THE PARTY OF PERPETUAL FRAUD

Democrats are all talk and lies. They use words to manipulate and deceive and they proved it in the last election. It's why their every solution is "To Talk" so they can make their deals behind closed doors. The same way they conduct their criminal dealings and fraud.

Wow,for all the talk of rep... (Below threshold)
BBF:

Wow,for all the talk of republican voter fraud,they sure do a piss poor job at it,I guess the Dems did a better job at it the last election.

It's funny to see Libs on here put down people because of their religion when they themselves believe in that hoax Global Warming,haha,Moyers is an idiot buttmonkey drunk driver.

JFO, as promised:M... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

JFO, as promised:

Matthew 3:7
Matthew 15:7
Matthew 16:2-3
Matthew 23:13-33

And that's just from one Gospel. I am sure I can find lots more if you'd like.

Now, if only you'd just pra... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Now, if only you'd just practice what you preach.

ACORN in Seattle, caught re... (Below threshold)
kim:

ACORN in Seattle, caught red-handed filling out voter registrations from the phone book at a table in the Seattle Public Library. Six of 'em. Count 'em.

Furthers my point; they were paid.
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JFO, Jesus called a spade a... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

JFO, Jesus called a spade a spade.

So do I.

You're just miffed because I called you on your own hypocrisy.

Let me call you a waaaaaambulance.




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