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(DC) Power To The People!

In Brattleboro, Vermont, a bunch of people decided to take action against a move they said was damaging to the environment. In their peaceful protest, they refused orders from the police to disperse. Further, they shackled themselves in such a way that they could be free whenever they wanted, but the police would need special tools (such as a jackhammer) to get to the locks.

The police didn't have jackhammers, so they used a tool that they did have at hand.

Tasers.

It's a simple principle: one does what the police tell you to do, or they use force. In this case, the police had tasers on hand, and they used them to get the people to obey the police's lawful orders.

In other cases, the police have used pepper sprays and other less-than-lethal methods.


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Now taking wagers on how lo... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Now taking wagers on how long it will take one of the lefty trolls to bring up police brutality in this thread.

Is that an endorsement, Jay... (Below threshold)
Semanticleo:

Is that an endorsement, Jay? I can't tell if
your moderation is in play. Can you imagine how
quickly a key can be inserted in a lock when
one's muscles are in spasm? The truncheon is
more efficient because the blows allow pauses
for reflection. Let's have the return of Daley's
Chicago rule of law.

Hmmm... three minutes. Must... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Hmmm... three minutes. Must be a new record.

Where's the YouTube?... (Below threshold)
kim:

Where's the YouTube?
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>Is that an endorsement, Ja... (Below threshold)
Paul:

>Is that an endorsement, Jay?

Well, I didn't write the piece but hell yeah.

>I can't tell if your moderation is in play.

That was an example of moderation.

Did the cops shoot the eco-freaks? No.

Did the cops beat them with clubs? Sadly, no. (lol)

Did the cops use canines? No. (but I wold have paid 10 bucks to watch eco-freaks being chewed by an animal.)

Did the cops use any other sort of impact weapon? No.

Did the cops use pepper spray which might have long lasting effects? No.

Did they use the Taser as a "pain compliance tool?" Why yes, yes they did.

It beats many of the other alternatives available to them.

I love it! Wacko so called... (Below threshold)
BillyBob:

I love it! Wacko so called "educators" getting zapped till the unchained themselves. It should be on pay per view. I'd pay to watch it.

They got less than they deserved though. I can't wait for them to do it again because they never learn from experience.

Who are the so called su... (Below threshold)
RobLACal.:

Who are the so called super intelectuals?

Keep putting your hands in the fire stupid democrats.

Observation #1: The unempl... (Below threshold)
Brian The Adequate Author Profile Page:

Observation #1: The unemployed professional activists are going to turn the experience into political theater. How Cute, I will be more than happy to pay to see it as long as they stick with realism and use Tasers. I will pay double if I get to use the Taser.

Obs #2: Takes me back to my days in Colorado when some of the peaceniks were up in arms about a radar installation outside of Denver. They decided to try and seize control in the name of the people. Step 1 climb the fence. This of course being the fence with the sign clearly stating that anyone climbing it would be shot. We never got to find out what step 2 was supposed to be, cause' some MPs grabbed them off the fence and arrested them. The funny part was watching congresscritter Pat Schoeder whining on TV that the wrists of the morons had been bruised and calling for an investigation. I wanted an investigation also, of course I wanted to know why the MPs neglected their clear duty to defend their post and shoot.

Wonder if those morons st s... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Wonder if those morons st st st st stuttered as they were getting Tasered.

Seems like the libs always feel there are 2 sets of laws, and yes, kudos to those police for enforcing theirs.

Think I'll send a 100 out to their FOP orgainization. Maybe the town needs donations for more tasers.

It's always puzzled me how ... (Below threshold)
Jo:

It's always puzzled me how the liberals hate the cops and don't trust them, etc. etc., and yet they side with cops when the cops say they want more gun control for civilians.

In other words, liberals say we can't trust the cops, yet let them have all the guns.

Liberals. The most idiotic people in the world.

You know, I have to wonder.... (Below threshold)

You know, I have to wonder... since the people were chained together, could you just taser one, and then shock the next one down on the line?

I guess that would just be too perfect... ;)

Linoge, probably not (too b... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Linoge, probably not (too bad, too).

Tasers are high voltage but low amperage... there's not enough amps there to push it through a poor conductor like metal chains.

Sorry, the radio/electronics geek in me just had to comment.

Did their hair smoke? ww</p... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Did their hair smoke? ww

now that's gonna l... (Below threshold)
macofromoc:

now that's gonna leave a carbon footprint

Did their hair smo... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:
Did their hair smoke? ww

No, they smoked before they went to the fence.

Perhaps someone should have... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

Perhaps someone should have placed a locked, kennel-like structure around them while the activity they were protesting went on. And why didn't they use a jackhammer? I would pay to see that!

Ruin all my fun! I figured... (Below threshold)

Ruin all my fun! I figured it would be a problem of amperage, but it has been so long since my circuits and electronics class, my brain skipped out on me.

Still, I can dream.

As for your remarkably valid point, Jo, remember that liberals are only interested in ensuring their point of view is expressed. Considering that the police, in this instance, were obviously oppressing the poor protesters, it is no wonder they are up in arms about this kind of activity (I am being quite sarcastic, for reference.). However, when the police do their rightful duty and confiscate all of those evil abominations from the right-wing gun nuts, they are all for it (Ditto.).

The sad thing is just how consistent it really is...

I didn't actually crunch th... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

I didn't actually crunch the numbers, that's just an off-the-top-of-the-head assessment, but I really doubt that it would go along the chains unless the amperage was at a lethal level.

One of the quotes in the ar... (Below threshold)
marc:

One of the quotes in the article got me to thinkin'. (always a dangerous proposition)

"It was torture," said Janisse Ray, one of the protesters, who witnessed Jonathan "Slug" Crowell and Samantha Kilmurray being shocked.

Odd isn't it after a first wave of the whiners and complainers when Tasers were introduced they have become the recommended and accepted form of non-lethal control by police nation-wide.

Yet, if a U.S. solder at Gitmo or one in the field were to use one to pacify a jihadist-cut-throat the hew and cry would be heard from the Carribian to The Hague, and all the rest of the places where "defenders" of human rights hang out all screaming in unison "TORTURE!

My wife looked at me funny ... (Below threshold)
Lledowynn:

My wife looked at me funny as I was reading this story. I couldn't help by laugh at the idiotic liberals getting tasered until they complied with the police.

The bit about turning the experience into some kind of skit almost made me spit out my coffee though. What sort of morons are these?

So I finally read the artic... (Below threshold)
kim:

So I finally read the article. They plan to turn the experience into street political theatre. Well, Main Street is You Tube, or is that Mulberry Street. They have either filmed it already or will re-enact it. They could make a LOT of money with pay per view.
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Maybe they'll be rich like ... (Below threshold)
kim:

Maybe they'll be rich like moronic foxes.
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Where is the study about wh... (Below threshold)
kim:

Where is the study about which gets the truth more effectively when there is no time for persuasion, tasering or waterboarding? How would one find out? Retrospectively and anecdotally? Why not?
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Did you notice that they we... (Below threshold)

Did you notice that they weren't locals?

These people were from out of town. From New Jersey. And the vacant lot, soon to be an economically useful truck stop (why do people always want *things* but hate the trucks that make it possible?) was in Vermont.

The absolute glee that some... (Below threshold)
pennywit:

The absolute glee that some of you express here certainly does wonders for my positive opinion of humanity.

--|PW|--

Glad we could help PW.... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Glad we could help PW.

The absolute glee ... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:
The absolute glee that some of you express here certainly does wonders for my positive opinion of humanity.

Kinda like the evil thoughts that you lefties expressed when President Bush had to go to the doctor.

Or when a Republican gets seriously ill or dies.

Sauce for the goose.

Now thay weve had our fun, ... (Below threshold)
LiberalNightmare:

Now thay weve had our fun, its time for the serious question.

Were any spotted owls harmed by the taser process?

Hmmm...Brattleboro is also ... (Below threshold)

Hmmm...Brattleboro is also the locale for an interesting form of personal expression -- nudity is not illegal.

Tasers and nudity...not a promising thought.

I heard of aone where a bun... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

I heard of aone where a bunch of enviromentalits wackos chained themselves to a gate during one antilogging protest the police or forest service simply cut off the gate and hualed them and the gate to jail

Kinda like the evi... (Below threshold)
pennywit:
Kinda like the evil thoughts that you lefties expressed when President Bush had to go to the doctor.

Funny. I, for one, don't remember expressing such thoughts ...

--|PW|--

I was using "you lefties" i... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

I was using "you lefties" in a more general manner, PW, don't get your panties in an uproar.

Of course, I also don't recall you castigating your fellow lefties for those thoughts they expressed.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane, PW. Maybe next time you should avoid it, tho. Makes you look bad.

Of course, I also ... (Below threshold)
pennywit:
Of course, I also don't recall you castigating your fellow lefties for those thoughts they expressed.

Possibly because I didn't frequent the lefties' blogs and other hangouts; and perhaps I express a certain opinion here because I had higher expectations.

--|PW|--

Pennywit, I am speaking of ... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Pennywit, I am speaking of the lefties who expressed those opinions right here in the comments on this very blog.

Here is the thread in question, Pennywit.

Again, thanks for the trip down memory lane. I'd stop now, if I were you, you're looking more foolish with every post.

Oops, mistyped the HTML tag... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Oops, mistyped the HTML tag... here is the link.

Amazing what a difference a simple thing like a " (or its absence) can make.

"Kinda like the evil tho... (Below threshold)
FreedomFries:

"Kinda like the evil thoughts that you lefties expressed when President Bush had to go to the doctor" C-C-G

What's so evil about noting that the docs were looking for Bush's brain...and, sadly had to remove 5 traces because they might have been malignant.

BTW why was there no Wiz celebration about the approximate 90 minutes today that Bush was actually an acting president?

There's a case in point for... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

There's a case in point for you, Pennywit.

Will you now castigate FF for his comment, or will you show your double-standard to all of Wizbang?

Freedomfried:B... (Below threshold)
marc:

Freedomfried:

BTW why was there no Wiz celebration about the approximate 90 minutes today that Bush was actually an acting president?

Because we are not idiotic, ignorant and delusional enough to believe the tripe you happen to adore.

"The president had five pol... (Below threshold)
scrapiron Author Profile Page:

"The president had five polyps removed from his colon. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Carl Levin and Dick Durbin are all doing fine."

They'll find Mad Jack Murth... (Below threshold)
scrapiron Author Profile Page:

They'll find Mad Jack Murtha if they ever do a Hemroid (sp ?) operation.

Scrapiron, you were lost wh... (Below threshold)
FreedomFries:

Scrapiron, you were lost when Bush did his perprocedure prep...just whooshed down the terlet, so to speak.

"preprocedure"... (Below threshold)
FreedomFries:

"preprocedure"

The absolute glee ... (Below threshold)
The absolute glee that some of you express here certainly does wonders for my positive opinion of humanity.

The people in question were stupid, and they suffered accordingly for it. What is not to like about nature working as it should?

Of course, if you wanted to go at the human aspect of the problem, these people, of their own free will, with the malice of forethought, made their own choices. Now, it is time for them to suffer the consequences of those choices. Now, if you do not like basic causality, or the responsibility each person possesses for his or her actions, well, that sounds like a personal problem.

It could have been far, far worse. I actually would have gone to the trouble of cutting them apart myself. With a blow torch. And while electricity might not travel well along a chain, I have to wonder how well liberally-applied heat would.

Thermodynamics ain't my are... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Thermodynamics ain't my area of expertise, Linoge... I am a radio/electronics geek.

However, I gotta wonder what the expression on their faces would be if you brought an acetylene torch close enough to them to cut the chains that they bound themselves with.

And then the cop saying, "we asked you to unlock them yourselves..."

Of course, lefties feel that there should be no consequences to anything. Hence the nanny-state, which they want to take care of every little problem that comes up.

Unemployed, self-declared e... (Below threshold)

Unemployed, self-declared educators and professional protesters from out of state? I'm not buying the unemployed part. Someone was paying them for that gig. Using the prefix "professional" implies they get paid for their services.

I sure hope it was worth getting tasered.

Actually, CCG, I don't thin... (Below threshold)
pennywit:

Actually, CCG, I don't think I'm going to do anything of the sort. For one thing, Fried's comment is so nonsensical that I'm not sure what to make of it. Second, quite frankly, I find most of the extreme left-wingers' comments just friggin' background noise. And, quite frankly, I'm not here to dispense approbation or opprobrium at your command.

Also, you'll have to pardon me for not reading every single thread here. Quite frankly, a lot of things interest me beyond this blog, so I don't have time for every jot and tittle of commentary that gets posted. Clearly, you have more blog-reading time than I do.

So, please, take your demands, and your commands about double standards, and move them along. I think we've both wasted enough time here.

--|PW|--

The absolute glee that s... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

The absolute glee that some of you express here certainly does wonders for my positive opinion of humanity.

--|PW|--

25. Posted by pennywit | July 28, 2007 9:22 PM

Lie down on the fainting couch for awhile. You'll feel better. Unbunch your knickers a bit. Now, maybe you can see the obvious humor in this situation. Everyone else can.

Really, PW, we expect better of you.

Sorry PW gotta go with Les ... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Sorry PW gotta go with Les on this one dude, lighten up, it was funny.

Some people like shock humor. (rim shot)

Thank you so much, P... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Thank you so much, Pennywit, for showing that your name is wrong. You have no wit.

You got caught in a statement that you had made which indicated a glaring double-standard. When it was pointed out to you, you immediately went into "defense mode" and haven't come out of it yet.

All you needed to do was say, "Ya know, I missed that thread. And I don't agree with what they were saying, now that I have read it, either." And I'd have accepted that--and even thought more of you as a human being for being able to admit when you're wrong. (And I suspect that many folks here would have agreed with me.)

See, when you insist on being right 100% of the time, you come off as a Grade A-1 Jerk. When you admit that you are wrong (when proven by a preponderance of the evidence), you show that you're willing to make mistakes, learn... in other words, be a human being.

And when, after being proven wrong, you post a snarky reply like yours above... well, you just increase your jerk quotient by a factor of 10 (at least).

The next move is yours. Will you be a man, or dig your hole even deeper?

Bah. Acetylene torches are... (Below threshold)

Bah. Acetylene torches are for babies. It is all about the thermal lance, baby. It may not be all that imposing when you bring it up to the chain, but the second you light that sucker off... something tells me you will have their complete and undivided attention.

And yeah, I know lefties want to do away with consequences and repercussions to the point of no one having to take responsibility for anything... I was just pointing out the logical incongruity in PennyWit's stance. Of course, that does not seem to be his only incongruity, so no surprise there.

I like the way you think, L... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

I like the way you think, Linoge.

I would sure like to see wh... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

I would sure like to see what would happen if these wackos were sitting in atree when amoutian lion or bear climbs up it or maybe a bird take a poo on thier heads

"something tells me you wil... (Below threshold)
RobLACal.:

"something tells me you will have their complete and undivided attention."

Like hearing the snap of those rubber gloves in the examination room.

I would enjoy the show myself but I would feel bad for the lion or bear having 30 pounds of that sludge those asshats are full of raining down on them.




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