Is it just me, or are things going really, really badly for the Democrats?

Just read down the front page here, it's like a litany of death knells for liberal Democrats - bad news (for them) on global warming, bad news (for them) on the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, bad news (for them) on evolution-as-undebatable-theory, bad news (for them) on the economy, bad news (for them) on powers to hunt down terrorists, bad news (for them) on mainstreaming illegal aliens...

If only there were a competent GOP to take advantage of it...

Golly all this bad news that Democrats apparently should pretend is real and the Republican Party is splitting faster than the ends of my hair. If the Democrats have 'bad news', the Republicans must be facing Armageddon. I can't help but to be giddy that the insane 15% or so that support Dick Cheney wake up to horrible news everyday, and must be very grumpy people who have to grasp at straws to feel good about themselves =(

As far as your comment goes: "When the first news came out about a possible incident at Haditha in Iraq, Rep. John Murtha couldn't wait to proclaim the Marines involved guilty of murder", could you possibly provide a link to backup your statement? I would LOVE to see it. Unfortunately, we both know you can't =(

The only quotes of significance I have been able to bring up that would even remotely backup your allegation from Rep. Murtha are:

"I know there was a cover-up someplace. They knew about this a few days afterwards and there's no question the chain of command tried to stifle the story. I can understand why, but that doesn't excuse it. Something like this has to be brought out to the public, and the people have to be punished."

How this would come to mean that Murtha claimed all of the alleged marines are guilty as charged, well that's beyond anyone with a high school education. However, we do know that the extreme right wing does compose mostly of undereducated, illogical, scared, and frankly cultish individuals.

Falze,

Like Bernie Goldbergs book title says, "Crazies to the Left of Me, WHIMPS to the Right". Mytha should have been brought up on charges of sedition when he first started spewing his hate filled lies, but in America today, it is only okay to say spurious things about our best in who serve. It is not okay however, to say truthful things about people who "are only excercising their first amendment rights".

We are in an insane, upside down world where it is becoming increasingly easier to see "The end is ny" bunches point of view. God halp us.

Ali ...,

what?

Ali is a liar and a tool yo, don't waste your time getting into a back and forth with another self-hating, future victim of autoerotic asphyxiation. He'll only soil his screen.

Hey, Ali - you just weren't looking:

"Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood,"

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/05/18/murtha/index.html

Keep reading:

"'All the information I get, it comes from the commanders, it comes from people who know what they are talking about." Although Murtha said that he had not read any investigative reports by the military on the incident, he stressed, "It's much worse than reported in Time magazine."

And this:

"There was no firefight," he said. "There was no IED [improvised explosive device] that killed these people."

And then ... :

"These guys are under tremendous strain -- more strain than I can conceive of -- and this strain has caused them to crack under situations like this," Murtha said.

Argh, too late...

Falze, you're right, things are going really, really bad for the democrats.

Speaking of Murtha, first he's humiliated with Haditha and on Hannity & Colmes last night they played a clip where he was humiliated on the floor of the House when someone questioned some earmarks, and he went all defensive & wobbly.

What a lightweight. Of course the libs worship him. But they're all idiots.

Pudge, caught ya', too late.

But the "Massacre in Haditha" line still stands in the minds of liberals. By him acknowledging it now removes that as a "tragedy" in the minds of liberals. By keeping quiet, the libs think they have more ammo, even if they are dead wrong. Where's Lee when we need someone to argue something thats inarguable?

Murtha is a disgraceful excuse for a human being. He should have kept his ignorant mouth shut when this story started. I think his actions warrant his ouster from Congress.

Having said that, there are still other Marines on trial for this incident. At this point, I don't think they are guilty. If they are indeed guilty though, they should face the maximum punishment for such a horrible crime.

Murtha owes the Marines in general, and these specific Marines who have just been cleared an apology. If the other Marines are cleared too, then he owes everyone an apology and should resign from office, or be thrown out by the rest of Congress.

The thing about Liberals is that they would follow a stupid oaf like Murtha, even after his idiotic statements about redeploying to Japan, and after having been led astray by the asshat that is Kerry, they still cling to this idea that by virtue of their service in Vietnam, these guys are true leaders.

Hell, Benedict Arnold was a military man. C'mon.

Repubs. may have bungled some of Iraq, but God help us if the clueless Dims. are allowed to "manage" it or any other military conflict. You ain't seen true incompetency yet until that happens.

Jo:

Murtha's a lightweight? Who knew? He looks too much like the type that eats at too many buffets to be considered an lightweight.

To me he brings to mind the image of a large herbiviourous dinosaur -- the same plodding pace, the same tiny brain requiring an auxilliary located at the fundament.

"The thing about Liberals is that they would follow a stupid oaf like Murtha"

I can't argue that he isn't a stupid oaf, but he is the best they can come up with...

Murtha owes the Marines in general, and these specific Marines who have just been cleared an apology. If the other Marines are cleared too, then he owes everyone an apology and should resign from office, or be thrown out by the rest of Congress.

It seems the only way to get rid of Murtha is for him to resign or be kicked out by his colleagues. Don't count on either of them happening.

The scum couldn't even get voted out in his district this last election after all of his antics. If nothing else his challenger, Diana Irey, would have been easier to look at.

I guess when half of the things in your district are named for you, it's easier to keep people voting for you.

Murtha--Nifonged!

Is your only link to "Let Freedom Ring?" Keep working.

Maybe I'm behind on this - but isn't this how it goes? Feel free to correct:

-24 people killed, including woman and children

-Investigation delayed until Time magazine report.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/05/AR2007010502248_pf.html

-Investigating Col. states: "The reporting of the incident up the chain of command was inaccurate and untimely."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5033648.stm

-More investigations launched. Soldiers testify:
-"Dela Cruz told investigators that he pumped bullets into the bodies of the Iraqi men after they were on the ground and later urinated on one of them."
-5 Iraqis shot attempting to surrender

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/05/AR2007010502248_pf.html

-Now immunity is given and charges are dropped against some of the involved soldiers.

And you save your vileness for Murtha? The military themselves - including the soldiers involved in the killings - state that it was murder and that it was not properly investigated and reported.

What am I missing? What is Murtha saying that did not come out in court by the soldiers?

"I fired because I had been told the house was hostile and I was following my training that all individuals in a hostile house are to be shot," Mendoza told investigators. The Marines then entered the house and tossed grenades before firing into a back bedroom, which they later found was filled with women and children.

Just an honest mistake. They would have been killed by Saddam anyways.

Last two posts--poor dumb sob's don't get it, do they?

Oh well, it's just Barney.

Lord knows those kids would never have drawn a breath in the US, libs would have just helped abort them.

Over 3500 innocent babies are murdered daily, and the moonbats still claim to care about lives??

"Jackson, Shumate, five other Marines and a Navy corpsman kidnapped and killed a man in Hamdaniya, Iraq, on April 26, 2006. They snatched the victim from his bed, took him to a roadside hole, bound him and killed him with a barrage of bullets.

Afterward, the squad tried to disguise the killing as a firefight between U.S. troops and an insurgent trying to plant a bomb."

...

"Five of the defendants finalized plea agreements with the government, receiving prison terms of one to eight years. Four of them - Jackson, Shumate, Pvt. John Jodka III and Hospitalman Melson Bacos - had left prison as of yesterday. Jodka was a private first class and Bacos was a petty officer third class before their demotions.

The remaining Hamdaniya defendants went through courts-martial.

Two of them - Cpls. Trent Thomas and Marshall Magincalda - were demoted to the rank of private and released from the brig at the end of their trials. Each had spent about 450 days in prison by then."

So six of the eight are all out of the brig with only two serving as much as a year and half. Were is the outrage from you guys?

"What am I missing? What is Murtha saying that did not come out in court by the soldiers?"

He is say the same thing all democrat jackals are saying. And the result of their feinding for political power can be read here...

http://www.capveterans.com/jack_cunningham/id39.html

"To be brief, your words are killing us."

The problem with the Criminal Democrats is that they would rather pretend they are right than to be American. Treason has now been added to the despicable democrat playbook thanks to jimmy carter having pardoned all the traitors like John Fraud Kerry and his Anti-War/American pukes. This is why the Rats lie at will and betray their Country .They never get properly punished for their crimes if at all. These lying cry babies need to have the shit spanked out of them.

Barney, you f'n idiot, this is about Haditha, not Hamdaniya, which is a different place entirely.

As I said before, poor dumb sob.

barneyGRUBBLE:

So six of the eight are all out of the brig with only two serving as much as a year and half. Were is the outrage from you guys?

Did Murtha call them "cold blooded killers?

Oh wait... I get it GRUBBLE's got nothing so off he goes on a tangent.

BTW "Ali:"

"we do know that the extreme far left wing does compose mostly of undereducated, illogical, scared, and frankly cultish individuals."

Such as Rep[rehensible Murtha in stating, "Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

Now, what were you saying "Ali?"

ASSHAT

mitch and marc, my point is after Tillman, Lynch, Abu Gharib, and Hamdaniya it looks like the military in more concerned with cover-ups and sweeping "problems" under the rug than justice.

Come on! You got eight guys that participated in premeditated murder and only two get any kind of appreciable time?

Your "point" is located under your hat barney, as usual.

NOW, what do you have to say about Murtha's silence?

Barney, if I say the weather is hot in Spokane, will you start talking about how it's raining in Moorehead City, NC?

That's about as much sense as your comments make.

We're talking about a specific incident in a specific town, and you're dragging in enough red herrings for fish night at the local Catholic church.

You may think you're getting away with something clever, but all you're really doing is giving us all a clear indication of your lack of intellectual prowess.

after Tillman, Lynch, Abu Gharib, and Hamdaniya it looks like the military in more concerned with cover-ups and sweeping "problems" under the rug than justice.

That's because we know that every incident like that will be used as a club to beat someone over the head.

All the BDS'ers, anti-war whackos, liberals, elected democratic and driveby media will put them in their quiver to defame, libel, smear and denigrate the military and the Iraq War.

Why? Because they all share the same lack of reason you do barneyG.

jp2:

What am I missing? What is Murtha saying that did not come out in court by the soldiers?

Ummm, maybe the fact (here you need the help) what Rep[rehensible]Murtha said was uttered before the investigation was complete and before the trial even started!

His words were based on thin air and an extreme ideology nothing more.

But many of us understand your position, you place yourself on that same rather shaky pedestal on occasion.

All six cases have one thing in common and that is the Pentagon. You can not deny a patter exists, so you can not expect the establishment to produce justice!

"Come on! You got eight guys that participated in premeditated murder and only two get any kind of appreciable time?"

That's not the point. The point is that Murtha denied all 8 of them ANY sort of due process (you're familiar with that, right? That pesky Constitution thing the left continues to argue that Bush ignores).

Where does Murtha get off declaring them guilty prior to trial?

Tell me that.

G'won. 'splain to me how that is not the shittiest thing ANYone could do - especially a Congressman.

Murtha used this issue, prior to any/all facts coming in/prior to any sort of trial, to declare their guilt before the world - and now, oh! OOOhhh! Some of them aren't guilty, at all!

Tell me, Barney - how is that not wrong?

How is it that a congressman, a member of the legislative branch, can act as judge and jury in a situation like this - if EVER (see: Civics 101)?

Easy. He's full of shit and was resting his anti-war platform squarely on the backs of members of the branch of service that Murtha is supposedly a proud member of.

If you think Nifong is a creep and need your hand held to understand the obvious shittiness at play with Murtha, you are beyond helpless.

Put your partisan BS aside and call shit for what it is.

You'll notice that when Foley was busted, he caught flack from the right, as well.

I would charge you with TWO glaring examples of hypocrisy.

Then again, we're used to that from the Left. F**K the troops in order to push along our policies.

Like I've said before, the Left love to toss the troops (and the American people) under the bus just so they can jump in and pretend to save them, and then blaming someone else, anyone else for putting them in danger in the first place.

You, sir - are full of shit.

BarneyG2000: Living proof of lefty brainwashing.

C-C-G:

BarneyG2000: Living proof of lefty brainwashing.

Are you sure it's not "fossil proof," or something akin to the Petrified Forest?

BTW barney, I posted this on another thread but in the oft chance you didn't see it here it is again.

Eat more Blueberries it might help what ails you.