With the United States planning to add Iran's Revolutionary Guards to our list of terrorist groups, the Guards aren't backing down at all. In fact, they are as belligerent and defiant as always, Nasser Karimi reports from Tehran for the Associated Press:
Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards said they would not bow to pressure and threatened to "punch" the U.S., in their first response to Washington's plan to list them as a terrorist organization, newspapers reported Saturday.Local press in the Iranian capital of Tehran quoted Revolutionary Guards leader Gen. Yahya Rahim Safavi saying that he could understand Washington's ire toward the group because of their "leverage" against the U.S.
"America will receive a heavier punch from the guards in the future," he was quoted as saying in the conservative daily Kayhan. "We will never remain silent in the face of U.S. pressure and we will use our leverage against them."
There was no elaboration on what Safavi meant by the punch or the organization's "leverage."
Read the rest at the link above. The Iranian radicals have been declaring war on us for nearly thirty years. They invaded our sovereign embassy in 1979, were sponsors of the Beirut Marine barracks bombing in 1993 and the Khobar Towers bombing in 1996, to name a few of their many overt acts of war, not to mention the clear trail back to them from forces killing Americans in Iraq.
The problem isn't that the mad Iranian Islamists declare war on us. The problem is we just won't take them at their word - OR deeds.
Naturally, most Democratic candidates for President see a need for more "dialog" with Iran - which essentially consists of our expressing our willingness to let bygones be bygones and our desire to forge a productive relationship while they call us the "Great Satan" and threaten our lives.
Here is where the Kucinich and Edwards supporters deride me for underestimating the power of a good hug.
Comments (68)
As far as they're concerned... (Below threshold)1. Posted by epador | August 19, 2007 3:09 AM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
As far as they're concerned we're just a blow up punching bag. Sad to think they might be right.
1. Posted by epador | August 19, 2007 3:09 AM |
Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 03:09
2. Posted by Reagan | August 19, 2007 3:38 AM | Score: -15 (15 votes cast)
Wow, how dare anyone stand against us for their own interests, exerting power and influence in their own region against our wishes.
2. Posted by Reagan | August 19, 2007 3:38 AM |
Score: -15 (15 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 03:38
3. Posted by Jim Addison | August 19, 2007 4:09 AM | Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
My goodness, "Reagan," it certainly sounds as if you feel the acts of war perpetrated against us by the Iranian regime and their surrogates were fully justified.
Feel free to expand upon your thoughts.
3. Posted by Jim Addison | August 19, 2007 4:09 AM |
Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 04:09
4. Posted by John in CA | August 19, 2007 4:13 AM | Score: 12 (12 votes cast)
I have a message for Iran's Revolutionary Guards and Ackmahdinnerjacket:
We'll be coming over the horizon when we come
We'll be coming over the horizon when we come
Ohhh, We'll be coming over the horizon
We'll be coming over the horizon
We'll be coming over the horizon when we come
We'll be driving Abrams tanks when we come
We'll be driving Abrams tanks when we come
Ohhhh, We'll be driving Abrams tanks
We'll be driving Abrams tanks
We'll be driving Abrams tanks when we come
We'll be dropping bombs from B-1s when we come
We'll be dropping bombs from B-1s when we come
Ohhhh, We'll be dropping bombs from B-1s
We'll be dropping bombs from B-1s
We'll be dropping bombs from B-1s when we come
We'll be flying stealthy Raptors when we come
We'll be flying stealthy Raptors when we come
Ohhhh, We'll be flying stealthy Raptors
We'll be flying stealthy Raptors
We'll be flying stealthy Raptors when we come
We'll be launching Tomahawks when we come
We'll be launching Tomahawks when we come
Ohhhh, We'll be launching Tomahawks
We'll be launching Tomahawks
We'll be launching Tomahawks when we come
There'll be carrier battle groups when we come
There'll be carrier battle groups when we come
Ohhhh, there'll be carrier battle groups
There'll be carrier battle groups
There'll be carrier battle groups when we come
We'll bring the world's best Army when we come
We'll bring the world's best Army when we come
Ohhh, we'll bring the world's best Army
We'll bring the world's best Army
We'll bring the world's best Army when we come
You'll think the fist of allah hit you when we come
You'll think the fist of allah hit you when we come
Ohhhh, you'll think the fist of allah
You'll think the fist of allah
You'll think the fist of allah hit you when we come
4. Posted by John in CA | August 19, 2007 4:13 AM |
Score: 12 (12 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 04:13
5. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 5:25 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Iran's Revolutionary Guards have always been a somewhat of a renegade group who I suspect operate much of the time on there own without Tehran's complete approval.
I spent many thousands of hours patrolling with the US and Allied Maritime Interception Force. The MIF tracked and arrested if possible the smugglers of Iraqi oil during the sanctions regiem.
The smugglers would come out of the Shat-al-Arab and hug the Iranian coast all the way to the Straits of Hormuz then attempt to skate across to Oman of the UAE.
95 plus percent of the time the smugglers had obtained phony papers from the IRG, and not so incidentally, paid thousands of dollars for them and in some cases off loaded oil as payment.
5. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 5:25 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 05:25
6. Posted by JFO | August 19, 2007 7:14 AM | Score: -13 (13 votes cast)
John in CA
Of course you'll be at the head of the column, singing that song as you march in?
6. Posted by JFO | August 19, 2007 7:14 AM |
Score: -13 (13 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 07:14
7. Posted by Allen | August 19, 2007 7:35 AM | Score: -7 (7 votes cast)
Bush's second mistake was stopping in Iraq. He should have had the military go through the whole mid east.
JFO, no he won't be at the head of the column, he is and always will be a armchair QB.
7. Posted by Allen | August 19, 2007 7:35 AM |
Score: -7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 07:35
8. Posted by kim | August 19, 2007 7:44 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
God these leftists love al-Qaeda and the Revolutionay Guards. What do they do when they fight each other.
The Revolutionary Guards hit an Israeli guided missle ship at the outset of last year's Lebanese mess. The Israelis initially claimed that the ship's missle detection and avoidance systems were turned off, yeah right, but later admitted they weren't calibrated for what the Guards threw at them. Wanta bet all that electronic interchange was looked over very carefully, by us?
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8. Posted by kim | August 19, 2007 7:44 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 07:44
9. Posted by JFO | August 19, 2007 7:50 AM | Score: -10 (10 votes cast)
Good these right wingers love war. What do they do when they don't have someone they want killed?
9. Posted by JFO | August 19, 2007 7:50 AM |
Score: -10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 07:50
10. Posted by kim | August 19, 2007 7:52 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Who wants people killed? Looks to me like radical Islam started this.
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10. Posted by kim | August 19, 2007 7:52 AM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 07:52
11. Posted by kim | August 19, 2007 7:53 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
You poor pitiful purblind fool.
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11. Posted by kim | August 19, 2007 7:53 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 07:53
12. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 7:54 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
JFO
Of course you'll be at the head of the column, singing that song as you march in?
And of course JFO is johnny on the spot to add absolutely nothing.
Good these right wingers love war. What do they do when they don't have someone they want killed?
Dream about it.
12. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 7:54 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 07:54
13. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 7:57 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
kim:
Wanna bet all that electronic interchange was looked over very carefully, by us?
Wanna bet the info isn't needed? You have forgotten the U>S> has a 24 hour/365 day presence in the Gulf.
13. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 7:57 AM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 07:57
14. Posted by Hornet | August 19, 2007 9:02 AM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
The Marine barracks in Lebanon was bombed while Reagen was president.
14. Posted by Hornet | August 19, 2007 9:02 AM |
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Posted on August 19, 2007 09:02
15. Posted by HughS | August 19, 2007 9:06 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
The Marine barracks in Lebanon was bombed while Reagen was president....and your point is?
15. Posted by HughS | August 19, 2007 9:06 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 09:06
16. Posted by kim | August 19, 2007 9:41 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
True, marc, but my point is that I presume Israel and the US share some aspect of their electronic warfare, and the Guards were able to defeat that last year, at least once. Bet they can't anymore.
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16. Posted by kim | August 19, 2007 9:41 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 09:41
17. Posted by Justrand | August 19, 2007 10:00 AM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
not a nickels worth of difference between jfo, Allen and our very own "Reagan". trolls, 3 for a nickel!!
It is absolutely true that Iran has every right, as a sovererign nation, to pursue its national interests in whatever manner it chooses. That, or course, does not make either their "manner" of pursuing those interests...or the interests themselves...right!
When nations declare their interests in conflict with others, and then ACT on those conflicting interests, war is a very common result. In this case Iran has declared itself the rightful ruler of the Muslim world, which pretty much means the entire world by their definition (choose any handful of AhmaNutJob's speeches as evidence). And they have chosen the export of terrorism as their manner of acting on their self-described "interests".
All that said, it is OUR (and others) right to resist both the manner of Iran's actions and the declared intent of it: world domination.
As with Hitler (whom AhmaNutJob has declared innocent of any wrong-doing in WWII) the Iranians will continue to test for weakness and exploit it. Hitler didn't encounter true resistence to his lust for power until he reached the English Channel in the West and Stalingrad in the East.
It is well past time to provide Iran with at least a taste of the consequences of its actions. Well past.
17. Posted by Justrand | August 19, 2007 10:00 AM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 10:00
18. Posted by C-C-G
| August 19, 2007 12:10 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
JFO, I happen to know John in CA pretty well (he's my co-blogger on CCG).
I'm sure if he was here now he'd tell you where to shove your snide comments, in true Navy terminology, but since he isn't, and I am, I shall take the liberty of doing so myself.
If you'd bother to read his other comments, you'd find some interesting information. Such as the fact that he is retired from the Navy.
In short, he's done his service to the nation.
So let me ask you, what have you done for your nation, short of sitting around sniping on blogs?
Remember, it was a Democrat (and an honest-to-God Navy hero, unlike Lt. Kerry) who said, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."
18. Posted by C-C-G
| August 19, 2007 12:10 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 12:10
19. Posted by kim | August 19, 2007 12:25 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Yes, he was valiant after the wreck, but, had he not been a favored son, consequences would have led from the questions about negligence.
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19. Posted by kim | August 19, 2007 12:25 PM |
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Posted on August 19, 2007 12:25
20. Posted by 914 | August 19, 2007 1:16 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
"God these right wingers love war, what do they do when they dont want somebody killed?"
Protest outside the abortion murder mills moron..!
20. Posted by 914 | August 19, 2007 1:16 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 13:16
21. Posted by Scrapiron | August 19, 2007 2:04 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Driving a PT boat across in front of a battle ship and getting most of your crew killed is only classified as being a 'hero' if there is enough billions of dollars (bootlegging, criminal, money) involved. That was documented fact but is now 'revised' by the dollar history.
21. Posted by Scrapiron | August 19, 2007 2:04 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 14:04
22. Posted by ODA315 | August 19, 2007 2:16 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Careful now CCG, JFO claims he was a JAG officer!!!!! Talk about being a military and political strategy and tactics expert! WWWOOOWWW.
22. Posted by ODA315 | August 19, 2007 2:16 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 14:16
23. Posted by The Listkeeper | August 19, 2007 3:21 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
JFO is most definitely a jagoff.
23. Posted by The Listkeeper | August 19, 2007 3:21 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 15:21
24. Posted by John in CA | August 19, 2007 3:55 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Well, jfo, as a JAG, I'm sure you'd be right at my elbow making sure I abided by the too restrictive ROE and ensured I didn't violate any of the IRG's human rights.
As far as I'm concerned, the only right they have is to be dead. allah akbar!
Die for allah, m-f'er!
24. Posted by John in CA | August 19, 2007 3:55 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 15:55
25. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 4:01 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
John in CA:
As far as I'm concerned, the only right they have is to be dead. allah akbar!
That should include the 50 IRG that are being tracked thru the streets of Baghdad at the moment.
After politically correct "torture" of course.
25. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 4:01 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 16:01
26. Posted by Ran | August 19, 2007 4:07 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Jag?.. That a Pimp carrying a law book?
26. Posted by Ran | August 19, 2007 4:07 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 16:07
27. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 4:20 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
It's a well known "fact" in the surface navy (sorry John) that if in trouble and in need of a JAG choose one that is a member of the Marines.
The thinking was/is to play on the natural, although much overblown, navy/marine rivalry and the Marine JAG would work harder to stick it to the man, i.e. the Navy prosecutor.
27. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 4:20 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 16:20
28. Posted by John in CA | August 19, 2007 5:39 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Hold rallies outside of a capital punishment execution to encourage an express lane policy.
28. Posted by John in CA | August 19, 2007 5:39 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 17:39
29. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | August 19, 2007 6:11 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
When did it become less than treason to root for our enemies? Why is it not a traitorous act to make claims against the best interest of our Nation? While all Americans enjoy freedom of speech, if that speech is to advocate the defeat of our country in its struggles against those who wish us ill, there should be dire consequences.
29. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | August 19, 2007 6:11 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 18:11
30. Posted by JFO | August 19, 2007 7:57 PM | Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
CCG
We've been through this before. You've acknowledged you've done nothing for our country. And I doubt any vet would ever need your help with anything other than perhaps some self righteous quotes from the Bible. But then most vets wouldn't feel the need to prove his/her moral superiority as do you.
30. Posted by JFO | August 19, 2007 7:57 PM |
Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 19:57
31. Posted by C-C-G
| August 19, 2007 8:29 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
JFO, if you remember that we've been through this before, you should remember that I attempted to volunteer for the Navy and was turned down because of a disability.
I think you should look to the plank in your own eye before you complain about the mote in mine.
31. Posted by C-C-G
| August 19, 2007 8:29 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 20:29
32. Posted by spurwing plover | August 19, 2007 8:29 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Then in that case we even harder with a haymaker POW RIGHT IN THE KISSER we hit back even harder becuase if they wake sleeping giant lets stomp iran into the ground
32. Posted by spurwing plover | August 19, 2007 8:29 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 20:29
33. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 8:30 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
JFO:
And I doubt any vet would ever need your help with anything other than perhaps some self righteous quotes from the Bible.
This Vet disagrees.
And BTW, what have you done in this thread other than off topic snipes at others?
33. Posted by marc | August 19, 2007 8:30 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 20:30
34. Posted by JFO | August 19, 2007 8:37 PM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
WEell I commented on your utterly,kinda off-topic, stupid attempt at a ditty. A ditty wasn't the topic. G0t it now?
34. Posted by JFO | August 19, 2007 8:37 PM |
Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 20:37
35. Posted by JFO | August 19, 2007 8:41 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
CCG
Trying to get into the Navy isn't DOING anything for our country. I commend you for the attempt.
So, what have to done for our country CCG? There are legions of other things one can do even though one may have failed a physical. But then again you are quick with the Bible.
35. Posted by JFO | August 19, 2007 8:41 PM |
Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 20:41
36. Posted by John in CA | August 19, 2007 8:43 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
jfo, I'd much rather have a non-vet like CCG supporting our military, than a self-righteous, supercilious, pompous a$$ such as you sniping at our efforts.
You contribute little. You snipe and run. You only take shots at people. You lay a turd and then run off, only to come back later, snipe, seagull a thread, then disappear as soon as you get return fire.
Next time you leave, please consider staying that way.
Oh, yeah. Nice chickenhawk ad hom you laid on me earlier today. Got anything to say about that now?
36. Posted by John in CA | August 19, 2007 8:43 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on August 19, 2007 20:43
37. Posted by C-C-G
| August 19, 2007 8:44 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
JFO, I preach the Gospel.
What have you done that is more important, or even as important as showing people the way to eternal life?
37. Posted by C-C-G
| August 19, 2007 8:44 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)