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Zimbabwe: man-made disaster looms

Western officials now believe Zimbabwe may descend into anarchy by the end of the year, according to Stephen Bevan in the Sunday Telegraph, a direct consequence of the Mugabe government. Read his report at the preceding link. Ed Morrissey of Captain's Quarters comments:

The dictatorship of Robert Mugabe could not have made more bad moves had it planned on destroying the nation. It took its productive farms from their owners -- whites from the British era of Rhodesia -- and assigned them to political cronies, who turned Zimbabwe from a net exporter of agriculture to a beggar nation. Mugabe then tried to drive the poor out of the cities, and the black market that fed most of them collapsed. Faced with rising shortages and the predictable inflation that followed, Mugabe capped prices -- and now no one can find anything on store shelves. Riots break out whenever anything arrives.

Their capital has little electricity and less potable water. Four out of five people live in abject poverty. Even if Mugabe left at this point, people will start dying in droves very soon -- those who stay, anyway. Millions have fled Zimbabwe, and millions more have packed their bags. There may be no one left to challenge Mugabe for power.


Read his whole post at the link above. Zimbabwe used to produce enough grain to feed most of sub-Saharan Africa; after three decades of neo-Marxist rule it cannot feed its own people. Even the undying admiration and friendship of Jimmy Carter isn't helping.


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neo-Marxist rule?K... (Below threshold)
marc:

neo-Marxist rule?

Kerry-Pelosi-Sheehan-Reid-Obama-Moore should be sending help praise any moment now.

How much ya wanna bet the s... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

How much ya wanna bet the same armed forces that the lefties have called "Nazis," "murderers," and the like are going to be asked to save the day in Zimbabwe?

At least it isn't race, it'... (Below threshold)
kim:

At least it isn't race, it's ideology.
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kim:It's really bo... (Below threshold)
cirby:

kim:

It's really both.

"You got your ideology in my racism!"

"You got your racism in my ideology!"

Wow, another great Marxist ... (Below threshold)
Mike:

Wow, another great Marxist success story.

They may be dying and suffering, but at least they are free from their former evil white British rulers - to me, that's the "race" aspect of this story.

[a]fter three deca... (Below threshold)
[a]fter three decades of neo-Marxist rule it cannot feed its own people.

Neo-Marxism didn't work? Obviously they just didn't do it right. Give it another chance.

C-C-G:How much... (Below threshold)
marc:

C-C-G:

How much ya wanna bet the same armed forces that the lefties have called "Nazis," "murderers," and the like are going to be asked to save the day in Zimbabwe?Althoug he didn't use the terms you describe, Sen. Joe Biden has already called for U.S. troops to be sent into the Sudan.

Note his last line:

We also need a sustained, coordinated diplomatic effort, which will bring the rebels together and build a lasting peace that works for the people of Darfur."

Senator "Pie-in-the Sky" Biden.

Hey, well at least in Zimba... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Hey, well at least in Zimbabwe, you can be a billionaire easily...almost over night!

Of course, since a billion zimbabwean dollars will barely be able to buy a loaf of bread soon...

If they had oil, they'd be ... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

If they had oil, they'd be Venezuela, or as Hugo calls it, "The Bolivarian Republic"

How long before the NY Time... (Below threshold)
drjohn:

How long before the NY Times blames Bush?

If they had oil they would ... (Below threshold)

If they had oil they would long ago have become a subsidiary of Angola.

Let's not lose sight of the... (Below threshold)
yo:

Let's not lose sight of the fact that Jimmy Carter helped put Mugabe into power.

He called him a "very gentle man" ... kinda' like how he thought Khomeini, being a religious man, was a peaceful person.

Yep. Love that Jimmy.

How long before th... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:
How long before the NY Times blames Bush?

Should we start a betting pool?

"Should we start a betting ... (Below threshold)
yo:

"Should we start a betting pool?"

C,

Why bother? The NYT guys have already declared everything bad that's happened over the last 7 years, and everything bad that will happen over the rest of eternity, to be Bush's fault.

Though, some clever reporter might make a note of how Mugabe got into a position to ascend to power following the aftermath of the "Bush War."

Not related, at all, of course - but when has that mattered?

How long before the NY ... (Below threshold)
marc:

How long before the NY Times blames Bush?

When does the next edition hit the streets?

So why isnt the UN doing an... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

So why isnt the UN doing anything why isnt the NAACP and JESSIE JACKASSON doing anything is it the fact that MUUGABE is ablack liberal guy?

Yo, I was referring to a be... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Yo, I was referring to a betting pool on when the blame will come, not whether or not it would come.

So why isnt the UN do... (Below threshold)

So why isnt the UN doing anything why isnt the NAACP and JESSIE JACKASSON doing anything is it the fact that MUUGABE is ablack liberal guy?

One might say follow the money, but in this case there may be none left. Race hustlers have mouths to feed, ya know. I think the UN may be a little shy about grabbing the cash drawer these days, but you never know.....they have other motives also.

C,Ah. Good point.... (Below threshold)
yo:

C,

Ah. Good point. Well, Marc took my slot, then.

Always like to influence th... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Always like to influence the over/under.

Maybe Bush should bring democracy to Zimbabwe? After all he has done such a smash-up job in the ME!

It'll come, BG2, despite yo... (Below threshold)
kim:

It'll come, BG2, despite your sneering. Everyone deserves democracy.
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At the risk of sounding lik... (Below threshold)

At the risk of sounding like a simplistic rightwing heathen, isn't it about time to aknowledge that anywhere leftist ideology is left to its own devices, all those who are not a part of the elite intelligentsia will end up suffering the greatest of horrors that life has to offer ?

You know, once upon a time (like, before FDR, Huey P. Long and other exploitive dunderheads of the depression era), the debate in America wasn't about who should feed, cloth, house and medicate who, but rather, it was about more serious subjects like how to best defend ourselves against our enemies and how to build and maintain a stronger, more powerful (both economically and militarily) nation, for the prosperity and security of all.

Unfortunately, it is now accepted dogma that certain entitlements are right and just and it is understood that the way to absolute political doom is to suggest that those recieving certain gifts, at gun point from their neighbors, should even have to consider seeking self reliance as the best thing to do for the sake of the countrys' economic future.

Bottom line: They have Mugabe, we have Mrs. Bill Clinton. They had Carter screwing them over. We have the entire force of the educational system, 90% of "news" outlets and virtually ALL of popular entertainment working to instal her, and yes, screw over the average working man. We do have the Constitution however, a document that hasn't been completely destroyed, yet, by the likes of congress, "people for the American way", the a.c.l.u., justices breyer, Ginsburg, Stevens and souter, as they work each and every day with the help of made up "penundrums", foreign law and through mass brainwashing of the public, to get their utopian way. The enemy truly is us, and until more of us see that and begin to fight back, they will continue to make big gains. If you could transport a typical American from 1944, into our time, with all of its cultural "advances" and "good works" by the government, I dare say, even if he were a good union man, he would likely go mad from the stark reality of what America has become: Gov. sanctioned open borders during time of war, open and brazen treason devised to make us lose that war, child molesters allowed to walk free with "privacy" protections that help them create unspeakable horrors, "gaypride" parades, millions of babies murdered in the name of privacy, gov. funded "artistic" desicration of our Lord and saviour, and much too many more to mention.

We need to walk back a little folks. We need to hold onto the real advances in civil rights and walk back to that man from 1944's time. One incremental step at a time...just like how we got here in the first place. If it gets to the point where pres. hillary mugabe is enforcing price controls and other marxist forms of "fairness", I'm afraid the producers are going to take what's left of their armaments and protect their property. I'd rather do plan A myself.

The hypocrisy from the Righ... (Below threshold)
Reagan:

The hypocrisy from the Right on this is staggering. Why have we not yet brought "freedom" to these people, who suffer now a dictatorial oppressive racist and facist regime?

Pudgey here thinks there is a vast leftist conspiracy to install Clinton...well, wow, I guess that was the same leftists that have now had far more republican presidents recently, a virtual republican free hand on govt for years until recently, yet who delivered absolutely nothing when they had the chance.

Keep projecting your failures onto others. It really is the only thing the Right wing has been good at.

God help you, if you'd ever seen or lived in another western country, you'd be so embarrassed at the pure garbage you seem to believe in sir.

"Reagan," you will note tha... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

"Reagan," you will note that when we attempt to bring democratic government to other nations--i.e. Iraq--you on the left call our troops Nazis and such.

Why, under these circumstances, should we be willing to try to do the same thing in Zimbabwe?

Perhaps your rhetoric is working too well. Perhaps you've scared the politicians out of trying to bring democratic governments to anyone, including those the left wants to help.

Why have we not ye... (Below threshold)
Why have we not yet brought "freedom" to these people, who suffer now a dictatorial oppressive racist and facist regime?

Because they aren't threatening the United States with jihad, with WMD nor exporting their brand of marxism to countries that interfere with our national or economic security.

"Keep projecting your failu... (Below threshold)
yo:

"Keep projecting your failures onto others. It really is the only thing the LEFT wing has been good at."

...there, fixed that for ya'.

Again, Mugabe got into office with the help of Sir Jimmy. Also, the Iranian mullahcracy has Jimmy's fingerprints on it.

Let's see, Camp David Accord: collapse.

Clinton's push for peace at the end of his 2nd term: nada

LBJ: Vietnam escalation

JFK: ditto

Hm.

Granted, Clinton did respond to Black Hawk Down (and USS Cole, as well as the African Embassy bombings) with such overwhelming force which ... oh, wait.

No, you're correct. Despite Reagen defeating the Soviet Union - y'know, ending that 50 year old Cold War and such, Bush I's overwhelming success in the first Gulf War, the Right has nothing (I'm leaving out Eisenhower since .. well, wouldn't wanna make you do research or anything).

I mean, thank heavens for Hillary's health care reform in the 90's. *whew* I thought we were in for some trouble, there.

Talk about failures, by the way, let's also take into consideration that in the last 31 years, the Left has given us Jimmy and Bill.

A catastrophe and a joke.

Oh, almost forgot about Gore, Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale, Humphry, and McGovern.

Yeah, tell me all about failures, babe. I'm all ears.

So Democrats are to blame f... (Below threshold)
tas:

So Democrats are to blame for the condition of Zimbabwe, too? Wow. And people like me get accused of supposed BDS...

On the contrary, those who look at international issues seriously know that, where Africa is concerned, if one wishes to assign any sort of blame to the condition that a poor African nation is in, the first stop is that nation's former colonial master -- a European nation which carved out the national boundries for the country and, are supposed to, still guide its government. In Zimbabwe's case, that nation is Britain. And while I don't think the Brits bare much responsibility for the current state of Zimbabwe, there sure as hell are worthy of "blame mention" (if you will) before Carter or anybody in the US.

By the way, I've been reading reports -- and blogging about -- the deteriorating condition of Zimbabwe for a few years now. The pages of London's Independent and Guardian kept me abreast of the story, and those aren't exactly conservative papers. Where has the right been on this issue until now? Is pinning a situation on a Democrat a prerequisite to caring about it?

Clinton's push for... (Below threshold)
Clinton's push for peace at the end of his 2nd term: nada

Clinton was so desperate for a legacy it was palpable. Arafat played Clinton like a cheap violin. It was embarrassing to watch a US President grovel for a terrorist like Arafat and stage manage appearances while at the same time selling out our Israeli allies.

tas, I don't think anyone i... (Below threshold)

tas, I don't think anyone is trying to pin Zimbabwe on democrats. The only thing Yo said is that Mugabe was endorsed by Jimmuh Carter. Which is fair. Jimmuh seems to have a penchant for supporting despotic tyrants. Even after they've turned rotten he continues to support them. Heck, sometimes he even certifies their corrupt democratic election.

What I, here on the right, have been watching for year is the collapse of a once prosperous African nation under the guise of social equality.

"Where has the right been o... (Below threshold)
yo:

"Where has the right been on this issue until now? "

And where're the dems? The defenders of (taxable) freedoms are hanging with the crickets, I'd guess. Or, maybe I missed the discussion during the debate, this morning.

They won't say anything about it because they can't pin tis on Bush. And they wouldn't do anything about even if they could.

Hell, where's Jimmy?

Where's the UN? The African Union? The Russians? The Chinese? Who's doing anything about Zimbabwe other than South Africa getting prepped for all of the refuges?

My point was not to pin anything on Jimmy (though, he is a human cork board on matters of supporting the most despicable people on the planet), or the dems. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy in the hypocritical statement which dribbled out of Reagan's ass.

The blame will come, fear n... (Below threshold)

The blame will come, fear not. Here's South Africa's Mail & Guardian Online:

South Africa has blamed Britain for the deepening crisis in Zimbabwe by accusing the United Kingdom of leading a campaign to "strangle" the beleaguered African state's economy and saying it has a "death wish" against a negotiated settlement that might leave Robert Mugabe's Zanu-PF in power.

The Guardian in the UK has picked this up too. How long before the targeted sanctions by Western nations, aimed at isolating Mugabe and his cronies, are blamed for causing mass starvation? Rewind to Iraq pre-2003 for an answer...

Our friend tas wrote... (Below threshold)
Wanderlust:

Our friend tas wrote (emphasis mine):

if one wishes to assign any sort of blame to the condition that a poor African nation is in, the first stop is that nation's former colonial master -- a European nation which carved out the national boundries for the country and, are supposed to, still guide its government. In Zimbabwe's case, that nation is Britain.

Un-real...!

So Mugabe overthrows his "colonial master", and according to you, this former "master" (in this case, Britain) is somehow still tasked with "guiding" the new regime???

Man.

Here I thought that "guidance" from the old "colonial master" was the LAST thing that a new ruler would want. Surely I am wrong, yes?

Exactly where is personal responsibility in all of this? Mugabe installed himself as ruler, and on the way to paying off his cronies (to ensure his longevity in office, as do most "rulers" of his dictatorial ilk), he starves his people by making horrible political and economic choices. Yet according to you, dear tas, it's somehow Britain's fault?

Let me guess. You are a father of adult age children, who, when his children make bad choices and squander their wealth, takes the children back in once again and gives them whatever money they want, without question...? And of course, if the chidren ignore Daddy's advice and continually squander the unearned wealth they get from Daddy, well, it must be Daddy's fault, right?

Good luck with living out that point of view in your own life, tas. You'll need it.

Meanwhile, as others have said above, we don't really care about Mugabe's mess because (so far, at least) Zimbabwe's political and economic foibles are not a threat to the security of the US or its allies.

Now go be a good little kid and bleat about how Iraq was innocent and how we were mean to poor little Saddam, who loved and clothed and fed (and raped and pillaged and tortured and murdered, but I digress) his people, until the horrible meany-butt US military bully picked on him and beat him up...and while you are at it, tell your Hollyweird buddies who whine about us not helping poor Darfur that the UN was supposed to be doing just that.

(You know, the UN - supporters of graft, thuggish dictatorships, and child rapists around the world...)

Wow. It's Atlas Shrugge... (Below threshold)

Wow. It's Atlas Shrugged in miniature, except instead of a bunch of geniuses waiting to take over, it'll probably end up a Muslim fascist state.

"The hypocrisy from the Rig... (Below threshold)
Ben:

"The hypocrisy from the Right on this is staggering. Why have we not yet brought "freedom" to these people, who suffer now a dictatorial oppressive racist and facist regime?"

"Where has the right been on this issue until now? "

Beeep... Hello, and welcome to the world freedom help line!

If you have a ten digit grid coordinate to a high value terrorist target, press one now!

If you have a third world nation ruled by a psychotic autocrat, press two now!

(Beep!)

Although the left cannot fathom why, our national power is actually finite and therefore we cannot garantee immediate resolution of your problem. All available troops are busy now, but your country is important to us and will be liberated in the order in which our policy makers see fit. Please stay on the line.

(musical interlude, I'm thinking Henry Mancini)

All available troops are busy now, but your country is important to us and will be liberated in the order in which our policy makers see fit. Please stay on the line.

(repeat, etc)

Ben


Tas,You clearly mi... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Tas,

You clearly misunderstood if you thought anyone was blaming the American Democrats for the situation in Zimbabwe.

It is the leftist-marxist ideology of Zimbabwe's leader that is to blame. Now you may have gotten confused as the modern American Democrat's ideology is pretty much the same as Mugabe's, and it's true that whenever the marxist/leftist/modern-American-Democrat policies are used to govern a nation the results are similar to what is happening in Zimbabwe.

Still what's happening in Zimbabwe is not the American Democrat's fault and I don't think anyone claimed it was.

Now if Bill's wife gets elected and leftists maintain control of the congress, then we would be headed down that same road here and THEN what was happening here WOULD be the modern American Democrat's fault.

"Neo-Marxism didn't work? O... (Below threshold)

"Neo-Marxism didn't work? Obviously they just didn't do it right. Give it another chance."

Another chance to kill another 100 million people?

Don't worry, they will have it through their associates, the muslims. What a pity that they will also end killed (or praying 5 times a day to "the opium of the people".

It needs another chance in ... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

It needs another chance in Russia, China, India, Vietnam, etc. etc. It never has enough chances, apparently.

Or maybe it just doesn't work for crappin out loud.

It seems that my comment fu... (Below threshold)

It seems that my comment further up the thread

Neo-Marxism didn't work? Obviously they just didn't do it right. Give it another chance.

might have been taken the wrong way by a couple of commenters.

In NO way am I an advocate of Marxism, Stalinism, communism or socialism, socialism lite.

It was merely a tongue-in-cheek commentary on how starry eyed proponents of those systems excuse their failures.

I once had a very young liberal acquaintance tell me that communism is just an idea and never posed a threat to the United States. It was just a bogeyman that right wing extremists (like me) invented to have an enemy. She went on to add that besides, the only reason communism hasn't worked is because it hasn't been done the right way yet.

John in CA ~ I cannot tell ... (Below threshold)

John in CA ~ I cannot tell you the number of neo-Marxists who have told me, "REAL communism hasn't been TRIED yet!" over the years.

Apparently, they are too stupid to realize that concentrated power always results in totalitarianism.

Naturally, if they were not stupid, they wouldn't consider any form of Marxism as potentially viable in the first place.

Plato's Republic, governed by a group of "Philosopher-Kings," would be the perfect society. The only problem is the complete lack of human beings qualified to be "Philosopher-Kings."

I got what John in Ca was s... (Below threshold)

I got what John in Ca was saying all along. I mean hey, I know a commie pinko when I see one. Quick everybody, GET 'IM !
(Sorry, but anyone who doesn't know the, "It just hasn't been done right yet", line is an illustration of the absurd through absurdity, is either a leftist, or someone who hasn't taken their funny pill today.)

I was tongue in cheek with ... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

I was tongue in cheek with you, John.

Only someone insulated from life, like an academic, journalist, or maybe someone in a NGO or wacky "special interest group" could see any hope for Marxism (or Socialism, for that matter) despite the empirical evidence.

But it don't stop 'em trying . . .

I was tongue in ch... (Below threshold)
I was tongue in cheek with you, John.

Mitchell, I thought that might be the case, and with aleon also. I just didn't want to leave the wrong impression.

I've been called a lot of bad things in my life, but commie loving sympathizer has never been one of those, and I don't want to start any rumors at this late point.

You shouldn't fret, John. ... (Below threshold)

You shouldn't fret, John. It's pretty obvious who are the communists/sympathizers/fellow travelers/useful idiots around here, and you aren't among them.




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