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Breaking News: Senator Larry Craig Arrested In Airport Men's Room

It's just now come out that Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) was arrested in June in the men's room of a Minnesota airport and charged with "disorderly conduct" by an officer investigating complaints of "lewd behavior" there.

Prepare for Senator Craig to be referred to as a "prominent" or "leading" Republican extensively in the next few days, along with mention of Mark Foley and old whatshisname, the evangelist from the Mountain States, but nary a mention of Gerry Studds, Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy, or any other prominent Democrats caught up in gay scandals.

The really fun part would be to see Bill Moyers comment on this. After all, he was the one who was tasked with damage control when Walter Jenkins, a top aide to Lyndon Johnson, was caught doing something similar to what is alleged against Craig -- but Jenkins' men's room was in a YMCA.


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Comments (68)

Repression can be very dama... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Repression can be very damaging. I blame society.

All these queer pols should... (Below threshold)
Piso Majoda:

All these queer pols should just get together for one big circle jerk and invite the press and get it over with.

I'm tired of mopping up the floor.

Piso

I wonder why this story was... (Below threshold)
jp2:

I wonder why this story was sat on for so long?

Anyways, I hope he and his wife can pull through all the gayness and cheating.

"..to what is alleged again... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

"..to what is alleged against Craig" Jay

I guess he allegedly pleaded guilty?

I'm pretty sure the main re... (Below threshold)
Moe Hongisto:

I'm pretty sure the main reason Republicans bear the brunt of folks' frustration with their politicians when they get caught up in these types of scandals is because of their hypocrisy. By being gay-tolerant/friendly, the Democrats - who almost (well, half) as often get caught up in similar shenanigans - aren't as much a target of anger from the voting public. After all, they're not being hypocritical. The GOP acts holier-than-everyone, condemning everyone who is not like them, enabling all kinds of violence and hate against minorities - ethnic, religious, sexual - so we expect that they won't get caught doing the things they condemn.

Just heard an account of th... (Below threshold)

Just heard an account of this on the radio. According to the account, Craig handed the arresting officer a business card identifying himself as a U.S. Senator and asked, "What do you think of that?"

For that alone, he should resign. It's the old "Do you know who I am? Well, do you?" That's almost as disgusting as what he was trying to do in the bathroom stall.

He should go, now.

Ted Stevens should be right behind him.

Well, Barney, his guilty pl... (Below threshold)

Well, Barney, his guilty plea involved "disorderly" conduct, not "lewd." So, legally, "alleged" is still the proper term.

Unless you have better info, of course...

J.

"enabling all kinds of viol... (Below threshold)
lowmal:

"enabling all kinds of violence and hate against minorities - ethnic, religious, sexual - so we expect that they won't get caught doing the things they condemn." Posted by Moe


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Nice blanket statement you got there..

Yes, conservatives are to blame for every instance where people are wronged....

Do you really believe what you say, or does it just spew forth with no concern for reality?

So friggin' typical..


After all, they're... (Below threshold)
After all, they're not being hypocritical.

It's incredibly more difficult to be hypocritical when one takes no firm stance on any type of moral conduct.

But hey, to democratics, it's not hypocritical of Breck Boy to run around the country campaigning on Two Americas, when in fact, John Edwards is the other America.

Jay - very much like the st... (Below threshold)
jp2:

Jay - very much like the strategy of bringing Democrats and Bill Moyers into this scandal as quickly as possible. After all, isn't Craig trying to get a gay hookup in a public restroom really about them?

John in CA: are you saying ... (Below threshold)
jim:

John in CA: are you saying that because Edwards is rich, he's a hypocrite for stating the poor have a harder experience of living in the US than the rich?

How is that hypocritical?

Jim-No. Edwards is... (Below threshold)
Phil:

Jim-

No. Edwards is a hypocrite for talking about how rich people don't pay their "fair" share of taxes, yet specifically setting up an S corporation with himself as the sole employee, to lessen the tax impact in the years he made big fees on lawsuits.

Or,

Complaining about poor people getting foreclosed on, when he made hundreds of thousands for six months work. for a company that forecloses on people

Funny, jp, I brought up Rep... (Below threshold)

Funny, jp, I brought up Republicans before I brought up Democrats. Dang, I KNEW I did something wrong...

J.

Larry who?... (Below threshold)
Kevin Author Profile Page:

Larry who?

I guess the <a href="http:/... (Below threshold)
mantis:

I guess the the Singing Senators may be looking for a new lead. "Real Man" John Ashcroft will probably start the search soon.

Hey Jay, Craig wants one of... (Below threshold)
FreedomFries:

Hey Jay, Craig wants one of your GI Transgender "Pat" dolls w/ an extra set of genitalia.

Since you brought up Walter... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Since you brought up Walter Jenkins, Jay, here's what Barry Goldwater had to say about using it against Johnson in the campaign:

"It was a sad time for Jenkins' wife and children, and I was not about to add to their private sorrow. Winning isn't everything. Some things, like loyalty to friends or lasting principle, are more important."

What a long way we have come, from Goldwater's principles to John McCain's black baby. Real men, indeed.

But you forgot the really, ... (Below threshold)

But you forgot the really, REALLY important one, mantis: did you hear Dick Cheney's daughter is a LESBIAN?!?!?!

J.

Getting better by the minut... (Below threshold)
jp2:

Getting better by the minute...

"Craig stated "that he has a wide stance when going to the bathroom and that his foot may have touched mine." (RollCall)

Still looking forward to comments on Craig from a Wizbang writer. Can't wait.

But you forgot the reall... (Below threshold)
mantis:

But you forgot the really, REALLY important one, mantis: did you hear Dick Cheney's daughter is a LESBIAN?!?!?!

Yeah, that too.

Which is not to say that it... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Which is not to say that it's wrong to talk about Mary Cheney, just that it's wrong to try to use her to turn bigots against her father. After all, the fact that she's a lesbian is not a secret, nor an embarrassment.

Well, Barney, his guilty... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Well, Barney, his guilty plea involved "disorderly" conduct, not "lewd." So, legally, "alleged" is still the proper term.

Well, it depends what the facts are as listed in the charge he accepted in his plea. Just because he pled to a lesser charge doesn't mean they change the facts to conform to that plea. If the facts being reported are the ones that he accepted in his plea, then those facts are no longer alleged, even if he was charged with nothing more than littering.

Thanks for proving my point... (Below threshold)

Thanks for proving my point, Brian. Until the precise details come out, it ought to stay "alleged."

I'm not saying it didn't happen that way, just that I'm not going out on a limb and insisting that it did. Not without seeing the details -- and I don't care about them enough to find 'em out on my own, I'll let others do the legwork (so to speak) on it.

J.

Also, mantis, I seem to rec... (Below threshold)

Also, mantis, I seem to recall something about "draft the Bush twins" going around a LOT...

J.

Mantisjust t... (Below threshold)

Mantis

just that it's wrong to try to use her to turn bigots

Your comment might carry more weight if you specified which "bigots" because Kerry and Edwards were aiming at a wide audience. There are not an insignificant number of "bigots" in the Democratic Party. Why else would they bring it up twice in debates?

I remember that too, and it... (Below threshold)
mantis:

I remember that too, and it was pretty stupid. Don't remember that coming from the other guy's campaign, though.

Your comment might carry... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Your comment might carry more weight if you specified which "bigots" because Kerry and Edwards were aiming at a wide audience. There are not an insignificant number of "bigots" in the Democratic Party. Why else would they bring it up twice in debates?

It doesn't really matter which party's votes you're driving away from your opponent, does it?

That said, it seems that the Republicans rely much more heavily on the religious anti-gay vote than do the Democrats, wouldn't you say?

If so, mantis, why is it th... (Below threshold)
SPQR:

If so, mantis, why is it that Democrats ridicule conservative gays and threaten outing and other intimidation toward such?

You just don't get it, dirt... (Below threshold)
Imelda Marcos:

You just don't get it, dirtbag bigot. It's not the sordid facts demonstrating that Craig is gay -- it's the hypocrisy entailed in his personal behavior. The sex scandals of Barney Frank, Gerry Studd and others completely lack that hypocrisy.

Because a) They see it as v... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Because a) They see it as very hypocritical when closeted homosexuals in office promote anti-gay agendas, and b) Republican constituencies won't re-elect outed Republicans (the betrayal!). I'm not condoning it, but that does seem to be their reasoning. You do realize it's almost always gay people doing the outing of gay conservatives, right?

Bottom line, his actions, w... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Bottom line, his actions, which got him in trouble with the law, should also lead to his swift expulsion from the party.

It matters not if the conduct in question was heterosexual or homosexual... doing things like that in a public place--regardless of the gender of the other party--is wrong and has no place in the party that stands for traditional family values.

I say Craig should resign or be shown the door.

Mantis<... (Below threshold)


Mantis

It doesn't really matter which party's votes you're driving away from your opponent, does it?

It does in the South. Democrats in the South have remained the same in spite of the many national monikers they have been given: Yellow Dog, Boll Weevil and Blue to name such for a few decades. There are certain issues they will not wander far from: religion, sexual preference and crop supports.

Craig should resign immedia... (Below threshold)

Craig should resign immediately. He is a disgrace to the Senate.

mantis should also resign immediately, as a disgrace to the internet.

The party that ... (Below threshold)
civil behavior:

The party that stands for traditional family values

Uh Huh.

Tee hee hee.

So Imelda, you're OK with s... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

So Imelda, you're OK with sex with subordinates and minors so long as they are out of the closet?
Good to know.

Mantis, that does not expla... (Below threshold)
SPQR:

Mantis, that does not explain why Democrats ridicule the sexuality of openly gay conservatives where there is not any claim of hypocrisy.

CBUh Huh.</b... (Below threshold)

CB

Uh Huh.

Tee hee hee.

By default, and your poor attempt at humor, you just remind us of the fact that you have no values...

But some interesting commen... (Below threshold)

But some interesting comments about the political ID of the perps:

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9671

It does in the South. De... (Below threshold)
mantis:

It does in the South. Democrats in the South have remained the same in spite of the many national monikers they have been given: Yellow Dog, Boll Weevil and Blue to name such for a few decades.

And driving their votes away from an opponent would benefit a Democratic candidate just as driving Republican votes away would.

mantis should also resign immediately, as a disgrace to the internet.

Whereas you, Jim, are a shining beacon of intelligence and civility. I am humbled in your presence.

Oh wait, you're the guy who bitches about getting rid of RINOs, but then when some Democrats on the web want those elected to stick with their program, they're a bunch of communists committing a purge (and all the implications that go along with that).

cb tell us what your party ... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

cb tell us what your party stands for? huh uh
hee hee tee. They tell me that B. Franks has red bulbs in his porch lights. Don't he know that you use yellow bulbs to keep the bugs away?

Craig should resig... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:
Craig should resign immediately. He is a disgrace to the Senate.

mantis should also resign immediately, as a disgrace to the internet.

I second both motions. I once thought Mantis was a reasonable liberal. I have been disabused of that notion.

Mantis, that does not ex... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Mantis, that does not explain why Democrats ridicule the sexuality of openly gay conservatives where there is not any claim of hypocrisy.

Well, you'd have to point some of that out so I know what you're talking about. In any case I'm not saying there aren't assholes, homophobic or otherwise, in the Democratic party (which I don't belong to, by the way). There are plenty, but the anti-gay thing doesn't seem to be much of a vote-driver for them.

I once thought Mantis wa... (Below threshold)
mantis:

I once thought Mantis was a reasonable liberal. I have been disabused of that notion.

It's about time. ;)

the political ID o... (Below threshold)
the political ID of the perps:

If I had buck for every time that happened...

A couple of weeks ago, blogged on a New Orleans City Councilman who resigned his seat after he was indicted for taking kickbacks. Four news stories and not ONE mention of his party.

I'm guessing since it was New Orleans and he was favored to run for mayor, he's a democrat, as I'm certain if he had been a Republican it would have been noted.

That's two reports of polit... (Below threshold)
Rance:

That's two reports of politicians getting in trouble in airports in less than two weeks. Maybe congress should investigate to see if the airlines are putting stupid in the in-flight meals.

I once thought Man... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:
I once thought Mantis was a reasonable liberal. I have been disabused of that notion.

It's about time. ;)

43. Posted by mantis | August 27, 2007 10:25 PM

Okay, if you wish, from here on out I will consider you just another frothing-at-the-mouth lefty troll in the mold of Lyin' Leeward and Baghdad BarneyG.

Is that what you want, Mantis?

Maybe congress sho... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:
Maybe congress should investigate to see if the airlines are putting stupid in the in-flight meals.

I'd say Congress should investigate what's being put into the coffee in the House and Senate Office Buildings.

Okay, if you wish, from ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Okay, if you wish, from here on out I will consider you just another frothing-at-the-mouth lefty troll in the mold of Lyin' Leeward and Baghdad BarneyG.

Is that what you want, Mantis?

I imagine I care about what you think of me about as much as you care what I think of you.

I don't care about them ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I don't care about them enough to find 'em out on my own, I'll let others do the legwork (so to speak) on it.

Well in that case, since AP has done the "legwork" and reported the facts, you should accept them as no longer "alleged".

It's official:The GO... (Below threshold)
Live@9:

It's official:
The GOP in the party of Gross Old Perverts.

What the hell is it with th... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

What the hell is it with these nasty, disgusting staunch conservative Republicans getting caught with their pants down soliciting gay sex? Does condemning and persecuting a certain class of people make you somehow curious of what it's all about? But yeah, I have to agree with others here that it's all about hypocrisy. Guys like Jim McGreevy don't get crucified when they end up being gay, because they don't spend their lives CRUCIFYING GAYS!!! Get it?

Craig should resign. This i... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Craig should resign. This is not the democratic party where you can act on your perversions and be embraced by the party for it. He is a goner. Bye, Bye. ww

I don't know how he could p... (Below threshold)

I don't know how he could possibly continue to be effective. I assume there are plenty of other (non-public bathroom oriented) conservative Republicans willing and able to hold the seat.

"Craig should resign. Th... (Below threshold)
FreedomFries:

"Craig should resign. This is not the democratic party where you can act on your perversions and be embraced by the party for it"

WildWillie, this is just the kind of hateful right-wing hypocrisy that seems to be typical of Republicans.

This phoney ass P.O.S. Republican senator, among other things, opposed legislation to prevent discrimination in the workplace while he played the "queer" toe-tap in public bathrooms. Craig is one more of the filthy vile Republicans who would persecute gays while hiding his own behavior. The use of gay-persecution is the most recent method of the Republicans to gin up hatred of others to gain electoral advantage.

It just goes to show that the very concept of a Gay Republican is about as oxymoronic as a Jewish Nazi or an African-American KKKer.

BULLETIN: Laura Ingr... (Below threshold)

BULLETIN: Laura Ingraham, in reference to this story, just mentioned the importance of how public officials, "Hold themselves out to the public". She has some of the funniest parodies on radio, but me thinks Rush never would've stepped in it like that.(Jeez, if she's gonna have sidekicks, they have to be allowed to rib her when she says something inadvertently funny.)

Lordy, now she just mention... (Below threshold)

Lordy, now she just mentioned politicians who "wag their finger in our faces". The woman's on a roll I tell ya.

"...this is just the kin... (Below threshold)

"...this is just the kind of hateful right-wing hypocrisy that seems to be typical of Republicans."

And it's exactly why the frothing-at-the-mouth hypocrisy from you is used by others to malign all Democrats. The difference is that many of us here know there are decent people from both sides of the aisle while you spend all your time using a broad brush to spew your vile palaver. You do it blatantly and without shame. You're disgusting.

I have one question for all... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

I have one question for all the lefties here.

If Senator Craig had been arrested for lewd conduct with his wife, say, in the Minneapolis airport restaurant, how many of you would leap to his defense as a Victim of Conservative Bigotry?

Just askin'.

A question for all the left... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

A question for all the lefties here:

If Senator Craig had been arrested for lewd conduct with his wife, say in the Minneapolis airport restaurant, would you still be leaping to his defense?

Just wonderin'.

Oops, apologies for the dou... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Oops, apologies for the double post. It didn't show up the first time, and I even left the site and came back to force a reload.

Ah, well, such is modern technology.

I guess I will just be assu... (Below threshold)
Luke:

I guess I will just be assuming that all bigoted Republican politicians are actually closeted homosexuals until proven otherwise.

Leave it to FF to embrace t... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Leave it to FF to embrace the sexual deviancy of another person. That is what a democrat does. If Craig is guilty, he has to go. I do not support sexual perverts of any stripe as Freedom Fries does. ww

please, this isn't thefirst... (Below threshold)
rachel:

please, this isn't thefirst time for PIMP daddy craig!he's an old pervert from way back.

lemme see, is it Republican... (Below threshold)
FreedomFries:

lemme see, is it Republican Bathroomgate, Republican Urinalgate or Republican Toiletgate?

Or maybe Republican Gloryholegate?

Why not hold a Wizbang vote?

The difference between him ... (Below threshold)
Jason S:

The difference between him and Clinton? Clinton didnt lobby against BJs before having one!

For those who are unfamilia... (Below threshold)

For those who are unfamiliar with the Walter Jenkins scandal, which Jay Tea refers to, you might be interested in reading my detailed piece about it, which you can find here.

Live@9, is there a reason y... (Below threshold)
SPQR:

Live@9, is there a reason you wrote that homophobic comment?

Okay, first of all any stra... (Below threshold)
Steve Savage:

Okay, first of all any straight male knows there are very rigid, yet unwritten rules for men's room behavior. We all know them, accept them and have no need to discuss them, but here's a simple summary.
1) No talking in the men's bathroom
2) Keep your wang to yourself
3) No talking in the men's bathroom
4) Stalls are for 2 things only, #1 & #2.
5) Talking only allowed in extreme emergencies such as out of TP.
6) No touching in the men's bathroom
7) Urinal courtesy, keep 1 urinal gap between you and others. If you can't, leave and come back later.

This is why nobody will believe Sen. Craig's (R) arguments....he knows the rules too.




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