Gee, why would the media cut-back on sending journalist to Iraq? I mean come on from McCain to Lieberman things are going so great, and Iraq is safer than Detriot.

Maybe it has something to do with the 112 journalists killed so far in Iraq?

http://www.cpj.org/Briefings/Iraq/Iraq_danger.html

I think I have been saved!

Barn,
It figures that delusional cut and paste comment spam would reach you on a profound level. :)

"We don't want a bunch of Mexicans showing up at Temple."

Is that why most hispanics are catholics?

Baghdad barney - congrats on providing the link.

But it does point out why 99% of the time you never provide them.

From your own link:

By Nationality:
• Iraqi: 90
• European: 13
• Other Arab countries: 3
• United States: 2
• All other countries: 5
Note: One journalist had dual Iraqi-Swedish citizenship and is listed in each nationality.

2 U.S. journalists in 5 years. News flash at least two were killed recently in the mid-air helo crash out west a month or so ago.

Baghdad barney - does the fisking so we don't have to. And we all thank you for it.

This is a BIG DAY!!!

Thanks, that is a relief. I thought we had a multi millionaire Nigerian trust fund problem on our hands. I'll start puting all my bank account info back in the drawer.

problem?

What are you trying to say HughS? That I shouldn't have sent Mr. Macgummi of Nigeria Trust my account #?

Marc
No, Send ME your trust account #!

What is your point marc. That non US fatalities don't count? Do you think the report is just about US journalists?

The point is they all do count, however in the case of U.S. reporters none are there by force.

It's their choice, a choice in most cases is rewarded by financial gains not otherwise given.

It's also their choice to sit their fat dumb lazy asses in the green zone and not do the job they were sent there to do.

Marc
No, Send ME your trust account #!

Hugh - too late Mr. McGummi got it all. Can ya spare a dime?

marc, based on your response (#11) what is your point in #6? The tread is about the number of embedded reporters today, and not from what country they are from. Maybe the media concerns thought it would be a good idea to pull their journalists back to the safe zone since so many of them were getting killed.

The post, and what the thread should be about, is American journalist, American media and how it has functioned.

If you fail to understand that you failed to read or understand Protein Wisdom's post.

YOU drug the subject to other journalists and other countries.

AGAIN, U.S. journalists are there because of free choice, why aren't they doing their frickin' job they'er sent to do?

Barny Google, based on your response (#9), the point of the posting at Protein Wisdom is the absence of reporters in the field providing information and reports for the US MSM and getting most of their information via internet and somewhat dubious sources. And, as a result, the dubious quality of those reports and the effect on the reliability of those Arm Chair Reporters. And you want to talk about dead reporters.

So, Barn, which is it - apples or oranges? Or should I say, "Barney, meet kettle - it's black!"

marc, if you bothered to do any research you would see that the 9-embeds referred to in the article work for the following agencies:
Polish Radio
RAI
BBC
and others including AFN, S&T and US media.

You see foreign journalists are embeds as well as US, so even though you want it to be all about America (showing your ugly American side) it is not.

BG2. Google 'Ugly American'.
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Sheesh, another bizarre digression from Barney that does not address the topic and demonstrates Barney's ability to confuse himself.

baghdad barney:

You see foreign journalists are embeds as well as US, so even though you want it to be all about America (showing your ugly American side) it is not.

You can get yourself a handbasket and cart yourself off to hell.

I've spent more time overseas than 95% of those posting here.

I've spent more time reading foreign press than, I'd guess, 99% of those same people.

(warning cluebat ahead: try watchingamerica.com you might, and say that with great reservations, you might learn why people overseas "hate" us so much and it has nothing to do with reality and everything to do with blatant lies and propaganda printed about the U.S.)

Ever read Le Monde? The Gulf News? How about Deutsche Welle? (Do you even know what Deutsche Welle is?)

Again asshat, this post is about America, it's press and how it operates with respect to forming the publics opinion.

You can yammer like a two-year old and try to divert attention all you care to, it doesn't change the fact your flat out wrong.

Barney... where'd ya go?

Waaa, Waaa, Waaa. You cry like a baby marc (I read more foreign press than you do). The facts given in the tread are for all press and not just the US press, so even if you think the world revolves around King George and the U.S.A. it doesn't.

And that is the definition of ugly American.

Is anyone sure Barney isn't the nut (Beauchamp) that joined the army to write article downgrading members of the military? The one that got caught in his lies on day one of his try at being smart when he's really stupid. Being married to the editor didn't help him much. They're writing style, where lies replace all truth is the same.

BaghdadBarney, Can I interest you in a job as a journalist for a mideast news agency embedded with a terrorist cell in Iraq?

and the U.S.A. it doesn't.

And that is the definition of ugly American.

20. Posted by BarneyG2000

And that's fine BaghdadBarney. They can think of us as ugly Americans all they want.

But when their freedom and their sovereignty is on the line, when their country is under siege, when they are against the ropes, see who they hope is coming over the horizon. See if they don't breathe a sigh of relief when it's Old Glory flying from the staff and right behind it is the United States Armed Forces.

They can call us ugly Americans all they want. We'll still save their dumb asses, just like we have for the past hundred years.

The only exception to that is when anti-war liberals and the democratics legislate victory away from us. But it sure isn't America losing a fight.

I wonder what would happen if we pulled all our troops out of those European nations with the strongest anti-American sentiment, saying that they can handle their own defense from now on.

I bet I could hear the howls of indignation all the way out here in the northwestern US of A.

Waaa, Waaa, Waaa. You cry like a baby marc

How so very typical of Baghdad barney:

A child-like response about someone else supposedly crying. Stating facts about personal experience isn't crying asshat.

John in CA:

BaghdadBarney, Can I interest you in a job as a journalist for a mideast news agency embedded with a terrorist cell in Iraq?

I think CNN's Michael Ware holds that position already.

C-C-G:

I wonder what would happen if we pulled all our troops out of those European nations with the strongest anti-American sentiment, saying that they can handle their own defense from now on.

We've already seen a small indication of that. When Rumsfeld rightfully called for and approved the plan to pull all the troops out of Germany in the future the towns, some that hosted the largest anti-iraq war protests in late 2002, all started whining to no end about losing the bases.

And BTW, Baghdad barney, remember all that anti-U.S. rhetoric that came from Germany under Gerhard Schroeder and France under Chirac?

Where is it now? After Schroeder got tossed outta office for his failed LIBERAL policies and a much more conservative President was ushered into France's leadership it's near non-existent.

I think CNN's Michael Ware holds that position already.

Gawd, ain't that the truth. I wonder when the guy is going to throw down his laptop, pick up a scimitar and slice off an American's head while yelling 'allah akhbar'.

And note who whined right along with the Germans when Rummy said we were going to pull forces our of Germany - John F'ing Kerry (did you know he served in Vietname?).

So, the entire comment thread is hijacked from the serious issue of news coverage of the Iraq War to another of Barney's nonsensical flame-fests.

There are big questions to be asked about the coverage.

There is also a big question to be asked about Barney - such as: "Why is he still here?"

There is also a big question to be asked about Barney - such as: "Why is he still here?"

But, you haven't proved that BarneyG was here. Nor have you shown to his satisfaction that he took the subject of the post off topic. Furthermore, you haven't satisfactorily addressed why all the journalists have been killed in Iraq because you're an ugly American and a big poopy head.

John in CA:

But, you haven't proved that BarneyG was here. Nor have you shown to his satisfaction that he took the subject of the post off topic. Furthermore, you haven't satisfactorily addressed why all the journalists have been killed in Iraq because you're an ugly American and a big poopy head.

Yeah!! What he said!

And where the hell is your "barney-like" links Jim?

Oh wait, sorry, they're there. I had to adjust my 3-D glasses.

I posted this in the comments at proteinwisdom, but it warrants a repeat, I think. (Yeah, yeah, I'm tooting my own horn) Here it is with some minor edits:
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A neighborhood of 500 people are being terrorized by a pack of 7 rabid dogs. Over the last few years some 15 or so people have died.

The media reports: [crickets]

Animal Control steps in and sends two dog-catchers. The two dog-catchers eventually catch and kill one of the dogs, but not before three of the neighbors are mauled or killed by the wild pack and three more dogs from another neighborhood join the pack. The neighborhood grows more fearful.

The media reports: "It's a quagmire! They're attracting more rabid dogs! Three people have died!"

Unfortunately, some of the neighbors are nonjudgmental dog lovers and they let the dogs hide in their backyard when they're not hunting the other neighbors. People begin spending more time cowering in their homes, but must venture out to the store from time to time and are sometimes caught and killed by the dogs; 10 neighbors in all. The dog-catchers eventually catch and kill one more dog. It's been months though and progress is too slow. The neighbors begin to fight with one another over who is helping the dogs and who isn't - who thinks things were better before the dog catchers got there and who doesn't.

The media reports: "It's still a quagmire! More people are dying! Who are we to interfere with nature and try to control dogs?"

Finally, Animal Control sends in the specialists: five guys to implement a new strategy. The five specialists, along with the two dog-catchers get chummy with the neighbors and enlist them to help rid themselves of the dogs and to build their own Animal Control Unit. Unfortunately, due to heavier neighbor involvement, 20 neighbors die, but they catch and kill 5 more of the remaining eight dogs. They're still bickering about the finer points of their fledgling Animal Control Unit, but the basic structure has been agreed upon and progress is slow, but sure.

The media reports: "The surge is a failure! The body count doubles! Few benchmarks met for Animal Control Unit."
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Get the picture?

Iraq has simply become too dangerous for American or Western journalists who face unnecessary threats of violence or kidnapping, so the the number of reporters has declined.

Paul,

If the imbed they won't have to worry about any of that. What's the problem then?

Hooson, not much more dangerous for western journalists than Russia is.

Hooson:

Iraq has simply become too dangerous for American or Western journalists who face unnecessary threats of violence or kidnapping, so the the number of reporters has declined.

Clueless as usual. It's money nitwit. They cut back to save cash and for no other reason.

It's money nitwit.

Speaking of money....these guys could use some:

Michael Yon, Bill Roggio, Bill Ardolino, and Michael J. Totten

Iraq has simply become too dangerous for American or Western journalists who face unnecessary threats of violence or kidnapping, so the the number of reporters has declined.

Translation: Al Qaeda has decided that they won't abide by the unspoken agreement not to shoot or bomb their media apologists, therefore, the media are running like the chickens they are.