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The Donkeys' Elephant In The Room

The Norman Hsu scandal is growing bigger and bigger. Even Bill Clinton has chimed in on it, saying he was "shocked" (in a Captain Renault sense, I suspect) to hear that one of his wife's top fundraisers -- who pulled in over $1.3 million dollars for Democrats and Democratic causes -- had been a wanted fugitive for 15 years.

(This brings up an interesting circumstance -- Hsu was convicted in February of 1992. This means that he was a fugitive from essentially the very beginning of Bill Clinton's presidency. He both fled the United States and returned during Clinton's term of office, and set up his Democratic fund-raising machine in the state Hillary Clinton nominally represents. This is most likely an utterly meaningless coincidence, but a fun thought.)

To be blunt, this is huge news. Hsu was a very big money-raiser for the Democrats. The fact that not ONE of the Democrats he patronized -- Senator Hillary Clinton, New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, New York governor Elliot Spitzer, Senator Tom Harkin, Senator Ted Kennedy, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the Tennessee Democratic Party, Senator Barack Obama, and a cast of thousands -- thought to perform any sort of background check on this guy. (I suspect the only "check" involved was making sure his checks cleared.)

I know this is a holiday weekend, but I was curious what some of the left end of the blogosphere had to say about this mess. So I went over to the Truth Laid Bear's ecosystem and started poking around the highest-ranked liberal blogs.

Daily Kos: Nothing on the main page, four mentions in the whole site -- one in a "troll diary," the rest pooh-poohing the matter.

Talking Points Memo: Nothing on the main page, three stories in the archives.

Think Progress: Nothing on the main page (although they have a link to a piece on Jack Abramoff, ironically enough), five in archives -- all from commenters asking why TP isn't discussing the story.

Eschaton: Nothing on main page or archives.

Crooks And Liars: One would think that this would be a natural for them -- Hsu is both a crook and a liar -- but like Atrios, nothing on the main page or archives.

The Raw Story: Nothing on the main page, two articles in archives.

FireDogLake: Nothing on main page or archives.

And for my old punching bag, Oliver Willis: Zilch on main page or archives. As for his employer, Media Matters: nothing on the main page, six articles in archives -- all playing down its significance.

(All numbers based on first doing a "Find" on "Norman Hsu" on the main page, then using Google's "Search Site" option on "Norman Hsu.")

As I said, it's a holiday weekend. But it'll be interesting to see if the pattern of ignoring the story continue for the rest of the week.

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Comments (125)

Just goes to show there are... (Below threshold)
Allen:

Just goes to show there are crooks in both parties, just typical bottom feeders.

All that Chinese money goin... (Below threshold)
kim:

All that Chinese money going only to Democrats, and apparently, most of them. The Republicans have found a campaign meme with legs.
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Kim:I'll give you ... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Kim:

I'll give you credit for one thing and it's about the only thing I've found so far.

You are eternally optimistic.

Have a nice workers day.

You've been fooled, that wa... (Below threshold)
kim:

You've been fooled, that was May Day.

And read Joel Achenbach in the WaPo today.
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Kim, JFO and his ilk think ... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Kim, JFO and his ilk think this is fine. Even selling missle data to the Chinese. A long comfy relationship the liberals have had with communitsts. Watch JFO attack the messenger now. ww

Right, WW, the technique ex... (Below threshold)
kim:

Right, WW, the technique exemplifies impotence. But they flail, and wail. Shades of the maturbatory Maccabee.
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Our local paper had an arti... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:

Our local paper had an article (a very tiny on the back pages article) in Saturday's edition reporting that our new Democratic Ohio governor and another Democratic State-wide officer holder were going to send the money they received directly from Hsu to charities. The article also stated that our new Democratic US Senator was going to turn the money he received from Hsu "associates" to charities as well.

Where is this money really coming from?

You've got more to worry ab... (Below threshold)
yo:

You've got more to worry about with Ted Strickland other than where the money came from, champ:

http://www.cair.com/default.asp?Page=articleView&id=2785&theType=NR

I like the count from the l... (Below threshold)
jp2:

I like the count from the liberal pages.

Just so you know, I am estimating you have 3-4 times the amount of Hsu stories than AG Gonzales resigning due to scandals. To put it in perspective...

like I said on the other th... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

like I said on the other thread yesterday, good ole Hsu surrendered to authorities within a $10 cab ride of the San Jose Mercury News...and the Paws live $5 further up the Penisula.

Now any (and it is tiny) mention of Hsu is buried inside articles about CRAIG!! The tiny story they ran when he turned himself in called what he did an "obscure fraud case".

Anybody waiting for the Mercury News (and their ilk) to EVER be ashamed of their total lack of journalistic standards can stop waiting. OK, technically they HAVE standards...the "standard" is: "Never print anything that might harm a Democrat!"

One more thought ....... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:

One more thought ....

For most of the candidates, the amount received from Hsu is minimal. Even our State-wide official would have to have been an idiot to give him any favors for such a small amount.

So, is this truly a Democratic scandal or is there some else trying to make them look bad?

The REAL problem - in my opinion - is that, based on the actions of many Democratic officials, I can't say for sure that they DIDN'T sell their souls for such a small amount of money.

Conversely, if this is actually a Rovian Republican plot to make the Democrats look bad, another question has to be asked. Have the Republicans done anything to indicate that they have the collective intelligence to conceive of the plan and pull it off successfully for so many years?

Heck, the Republicans have been been overwhelmed with "sex scandals" for the last year costing themselves at least national office seats and they haven't even been able to manage a "sex scandal" that ACTUALLY includes sex.

Where's the third party for us to choose from?

"I am estimating you have 3... (Below threshold)
yo:

"I am estimating you have 3-4 times the amount of Hsu stories than AG Gonzales resigning due to scandals."


Gee, jp, y'think?

The Gonzo story is fairly stagnant - scandels or not. There isn't much new news being produced, while the Hsu story is still evolving.

Here's a fun little task: go to any of the "major" news outlets (google, yahoo, abc, nbc, cbs, cnn) and tell me how many stories on Hsu you find ... without digging through a bunch of clicks.

You've got more to... (Below threshold)
OhioVoter:
You've got more to worry about with Ted Strickland other than where the money came from, champ:
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Oh, I know. Don't get me started on Strickland.

We really ought to discuss ... (Below threshold)
kim:

We really ought to discuss this, JFO, I've mistakenly looked upon the rhythmic delusions of such as Maccabee as essentially onanistic, however, in the light of further evidence, like the Maccabee comments, it appears far more mutually masturbatory. Another great example is Scary Larry's Potemkin Pirate Ship, NoQuarter.
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Did you try running a searc... (Below threshold)
pennywit:

Did you try running a search just on "hsu"?

--|PW|--

"Oh, I know. Don't get me s... (Below threshold)
yo:

"Oh, I know. Don't get me started on Strickland."

No worries, I won't try to get your blood up on that. Ohioans have been poorly (POORLY!) represented, for years: Voinivich as Gov and as a tearfully pro-then-not-so-pro-amnesty slug, Taft, and let's not forget the smoking crater that used to be Cleveland that Kucinic helped make worse.

You have my sympathies for being in Ohio, man, you really do. I was in Columbus for quite a while, and I'm not too terribly upset at not being there, any more.

Then again, I'm now in Illinois. So, I'm basically screwed.

"Did you try running a sear... (Below threshold)
yo:

"Did you try running a search just on "hsu"?"

The voice of logic steps up. Mornin', PW.

And you're so damned right! A straight Google of "Hsu," and you get a handful of squat. Google news produces a little more, but it does make one wonder how much the gents at Google donate to the DNC.

Oh, yo, what you don't know... (Below threshold)
kim:

Oh, yo, what you don't know.
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Kim ..., I'll draw on the e... (Below threshold)
yo:

Kim ..., I'll draw on the experience from previous life as a douchebag liberal, and say that I am comfortable in my cone of ignorance on that one.

Lalalalalalalalala ... can't hear you.

(learned that trick from my parents when, at 10 years old, with Carter running for re-election - my parents were voting for him ... and I'd asked them how could they vote for Carter while Iran STILL held our folks hostage .. that was their response, "lalala" - still is, as a matter of fact).

I was roundly sounded off f... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

I was roundly sounded off for mentioning Balzac's axiom the other day, so I won't repeat it..but it seems that Democrats particularly,the ilk of the Clintons, are probably even more naive and impressionable than Republicans about the sources of many fortunes. As a result of his largesse, Hsu's stock rose rapidly in Democratic circles...
Bob Kerry (D) said he never inquired about the source of Hsu's wealth. "My presumption is that he's rich," he said.

It's a matter of google doi... (Below threshold)
kim:

It's a matter of google doing the muffling.
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Larry Craig gave Hsu a humm... (Below threshold)
kim:

Larry Craig gave Hsu a hummer while driving around the Minneapolis Airport in Hsu's Hummer.
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Editor's Note: This comment was not posted by the regular "kim," but by an imposter -- most likely a driveby troll, as that IP has not commented prior. Accordingly, that commenter's IP has been banned.

Since Hsu appears to simply... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Since Hsu appears to simply a conduit for the Dim. money, we can reasonably infer that he is funneling dirty money to the Dims.

With the obvious China connection, you can also reasonably infer that is the source.

Until Mr. Hsu comes to terms with his criminal past, the burden is really on him to prove otherwise. I doubt we'll see it traced; he'll clam up and protect the Dims/Chinese/Whoever.

OT...but it's worth mention... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

OT...but it's worth mentioning somewhere:

Bush went to Anbar province today...once written off as "lost"...now a splendid example of VICTORY!

If it's possible to do so, it makes Katie Couric look even STOOOPIDER for her snarky comments yesterday! ("They only let me see good things")

A google on Hsu and all tha... (Below threshold)
914:

A google on Hsu and all that will turn up is a check in the mail.

"Even Bill Clinton has c... (Below threshold)
rrita m:

"Even Bill Clinton has chimed in on it, saying he was "shocked""

Heh heh, I always like a good laugh with my am coffee. You gotta use that word, "shocked" just before getting busted up the rails. Fire Dog Lake is actually a pretty cool name for a weblog. Too bad it's well...you know, uh--leaning that way a little too much.

the 10:46 post is a sock pu... (Below threshold)
kim:

the 10:46 post is a sock puppet.
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You"re right, Jay, but Larr... (Below threshold)
drjohn:

You"re right, Jay, but Larry Craig committed a...a...well, I don't know exactly what he committed but whatever it is, it's more important that bribery and malfeasance and, likely, murder.

By a Democrat, that is.

TNX, ed. Pretty good parod... (Below threshold)
kim:

TNX, ed. Pretty good parody, though; I'm impressed.
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Oh, and 'previously' instea... (Below threshold)
kim:

Oh, and 'previously' instead of 'prior'.

::grin::
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Any fool that b... (Below threshold)
civil behavior:

Any fool that believes that money doesn't buy politicians on either side of the fence deserves the same kind of amdinistration we've had for the past six plus years.


God, will it never end. Are the people really so foolish?

"God, will it never end. Ar... (Below threshold)
rrita m:

"God, will it never end. Are the people really so foolish?"

As soon as it ends on the other side of the hill, and we know how soon that is, don't we? Please tell me you're not just counting back six years.

For him, rrita, it wouldn't... (Below threshold)
kim:

For him, rrita, it wouldn't make a whit of diff; he's a true believer.
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"Please tell me you're not ... (Below threshold)
yo:

"Please tell me you're not just counting back six years."

If he could count higher, he'd go back further.

I wonder if Hsu was able to... (Below threshold)
Captain Joe:

I wonder if Hsu was able to elude the law by staying in a sanctuary city like San Francisco, where aliens are immune from hassling by the cops.

Whoa - you've got 'em there... (Below threshold)
Kapow:

Whoa - you've got 'em there Jay!

It's been over a week, and blogs like TPM aren't still flogging this story? What's the matter with them?

Maybe it's because this story is far from HUGE.

Hsu has turned himself in, and the Dems that received his donations are falling over themselves to return it. And... well, and that's it really. You can probably just chalk it up to a clerical error.

Now, if anyone took money from Hsu, knowing that he was a felon, or Hsu was able to gain influence (or derive some benefit) as a result of his donations, that would be news. But nothing of the sort has even been suggested.

The fact that TPM, for example, has 3 articles in the archives is because this story broke a while ago and there haven't been any new developments. Not so sinister after all, eh? But keep trying, someday soon you'll get there.

There's an old phrase that goes something like, those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. So, what about Republican scandals? Do you guys at wizbang cover every Republican scandal in depth? If I do a "find" search on wizbang for say, Jerry Lewis, Ted Stevens, Thomas Kontogiannis, Don Young or David Vitter we'd get lots and lots of coverage, right? If I searched for some mention that the Patraeus report will actually be authored by the Whitehouse, that would make the front page of Wizbang, right? I'm waiting...

something tell me I'll wait a long time.

"Now, if anyone took money ... (Below threshold)
yo:

"Now, if anyone took money from Hsu, knowing that he was a felon, or Hsu was able to gain influence (or derive some benefit) as a result of his donations, that would be news. But nothing of the sort has even been suggested."

It would be news, and is it that this has not been suggested, or that it's not been reported - which is the point.

Geesh.

Well Yo, there's got to be ... (Below threshold)
Kapow:

Well Yo, there's got to be some smoke there, before you go launching accusations like that, right? Dodgy campaign contributions are about where this one ends.