Wow, the left is this country is not just agreeing with the other side . . .

They are the other side.

They need to come out of the closet with their dhimmiture...

At least it would mean Boxer and Pelosi each under a hijab.

That should be *dhimmitude*, not *dhimmiture*.

Can't wait to hear the comments from the resident trolls...

Do you mean that Osama's little speech wasn't written by KOS and the DNC? He got in all of their talking points.

>Can't wait to hear the comments from the resident trolls...

They're busy writing a post on Blue using this as proof Bush has failed at "International Relations."

>Do you mean that Osama's little speech wasn't written by KOS and the DNC? He got in all of their talking points.

heh- It could be a Democrat stump speech. OBL could run for the Senate as a democrat in Vermont and win.

Babble2000, you're not the least bit troubled that Osama could replace you in the comments section here and none of us would notice... That doesn't bother you?

If only we didn't have to be reminded every day that BarneyG2000 was alive and deranged....

Howard Dean, Dick Durbin, Tim Robbins, alGore, and Nancy Pelosi (just to name few) could EASILY have given that speech...EASILY!!

Also from the tape:

"the greatest mistake one can make in this world and one which is uncorrectable is to die while not surrendering to Allah".

Wonder how Edwards would fit that on a bumper sticker?

OBL also recommends people read books by Noam Chomsky and Michael Scheuer.

The Chomsky ref is obvious but not many would realize why Scheuer is ref'd, after all he's the former CIA agent all the networks,including Fox, have fallen in love with as "an expert" on OBL and terrorism in general.

Well, as "Anonymous" he wrote the book Imperial Hubris. He and OBL have one of those distant love affairs so many have.

Scheuer is THE master at the moral equivalence type of argument and makes many refs that terrorists are just "freedom fighters," whose needs must be understood.

For example:

"The strength of his personality and message is likely to lead to an enduring legacy that will long survice his own departure from the scene (xvii)."

[B]in Laden's philosophy and action have embodied many of the same sentiments that permeate the underpinnings of concepts on which the United States itself is established.

Osama bin Laden appears to be a geniunely pious Muslim; a devoted family man; a talented, focused, and patient insurgent commander; a frank and eloquent speaker; a successful businessman; and an individual of conviction, intellectual honestly, compassion, humility, and physical bravery (3).

[B]in Laden's character, religious certainty, moral absolutism, military ferocity, integrity, and all-or-nothing goals are not much different from those of individuals whom we in the United States have long identified and honored as religious, political, or military heroes, men such as John Brown, John Bunyan, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, and Thomas Paine (5).

Any questions why Scheuer is one of OBL's "favorite authors" now?

The entire OBL transcript is available here in PDF form.

nothing he said proves that the tape is any newer than 2004, is it?

Isn't this all about proving that he's winning by "still being alive" - why would he not mention something that happened recently, and remove all doubt...

Good thing Bush doesn't think much about Osama anymore -Barney

Given how much he sounds like you and your ilk, is this surprising. Lord knows I don't think much of you anymore.

As for the 9/11 families, I am sure they don't feel nearly as annoyed as they do with the "little eichman" crowd counted among your fellow travellers.

6 years after 9/11 ...why are we even discussing this person?
almost six years after terrorists attacked us with
hijacked planes and anthrax...
We can invade 2 countries...
We can have...in Iraq alone 3740 troops dead there...over 30,000 sustaining wounds way too many serious and returning to a still dysfunctional V.A.
...and we cannot arrest or kill either...
The failure of the Bush administration to accomplish either...is not the fault of the Dems and for sure not the fault of Kos.....

so you all keep up with pointing the finger at everyone other then the person responsible for the two greatest failures of this new century..

of course..maybe we are just too feeble to accomplish either one of these tasks...
perhaps this feebleness can be blamed on the liberals and Kos...

Forget about a plan to stabilize Iraq...
How about a plan to take out bin-Laden ....and find the anthrax killer?

>nothing he said proves that the tape is any newer than 2004, is it?

oh yes, I clipped that, sorry, he mentions the election in France and the anniversary of Hiroshima. It was recorded in mid Aug. if I recall, follow the link dude, it's free.

Baghdad barney:

Good thing Bush doesn't think much about Osama anymore. If he did maybe we wouldn't have to be reminded every year that piece of shit is alive and well.

Good thing Bush hasn't lived up to the "unilaterist six-gun totin' cowboy" image you and your ilk wanted to portray him as. Instead he worked with the EU and NATO and together they continue to take the fight to OBL, talaban remnants and other of like minds in Afghanistan.

I'm sure the widows of 9-11 find your comments funny.

Pretty damn presumptuous of you to claim you know what 9/11 widows think isn't it?

Or do you have the powers of Kreskin, Max Maven and Chan Canasta?

Or just a blustering idiot?

hey marc, good catch

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nogo war, you're not the least bit troubled that Osama could replace you in the comments section here and none of us would notice... That doesn't bother you?

Babble, please answer my question.

Much of this could have been avoided had Clinton taken him out in the 90s. It would have at least blunted the jihadist movement. Now we're in a very serious asymmetrical war with no evident horizon.

The real irony is that many Americans--primarily on the left, of course--either minimize or ignore the evidence, all for political purchase. Which is why they are in denial about the obvious progress being made due to the counter-insurgency initiative in Iraq.

It's despicable to see Sen. Schumer excoriate our soldiers and Marines as he did on the senate floor on Wednesday. His adroit revision of his remarks only confirms how thoroughly invested he is in defeat.

OBL will one day be taken down, but even that won't stop the radical Islamists who are now active in 70 countries--including, of course, the U.S.

Phil Mella
ClearCommentary.com

Baghdad barney:

That was back in May and Bush still sits on his hands. Keep laughing it up.

Then perhaps you could supply specific targeting info so Bush could sit on his hands longer.

Blah blah blah...sure is a good thing the US invaded Iraq, rather than get this piece of crap and take out his organization when we had the chance.

jim, you're not the least bit troubled that Osama could replace you in the comments section here and none of us would notice... That doesn't bother you?

I couldn't concentrate on taking out Bin Laden. I was too busy taking something else out...in the Oval Office. *wink*

Bush has had 6 years to capture this two-bit punk and he has failed to, and somehow this is bad news for the left? You people are one part mentally ill and two parts stupid.

jim, you're not the least bit troubled that Osama could replace you in the comments section here and none of us would notice... That doesn't bother you?

He's not bothered by the fact he and Baghdad barney can't offer a viable solution either.

A solution that doesn't lead to the fall of Pakistan's Pres that would have the potential of letting it become just as bad as Afghanistan ever was. (and a country btw that wasn't an ally of any sort under clinton).

Paul...
what bothers me...are all these videos from someone we should have killed years ago...
What bothers me is we cannot find, arrest, convict the anthrax killer...
These failures expose us to more attacks...
after all...if we cannot kill or arrest those responsible for what happened back in 2001...
where is the deterrent for those who may attack us in the future...

I am waiting for anyone here to offer a legitimate excuse why the most powerful nation in the world cannot stop the person directly responsible for 9/11 from posting videos taunting us for our FAILURE to stop him?

His posting cannot be blamed on anyone other than our commander-in-chief...and HIS failure to protect us....

Charles Giacometti:

Bush has had 6 years to capture this two-bit punk and he has failed to, and somehow this is bad news for the left? You people are one part mentally ill and two parts stupid.

How long did it take to catch Theodore Kaczynski?

Do YOU have a solution? Or just cheap partisan tripe?

Baghdad barney:

How should we expect Bush to find Osama when he doesn't know the difference between APEC and OPEC and Austria and Australia?

And I'd bet a few bucks you hadn't clue #1 what APEC was until you read about Bush mis-speaking the acronym.

And your solution to getting OBL is what?

"What bothers me is we cannot find, arrest, convict the anthrax killer.."

You must wet your bed, nightly, wondering about the Lindbergh kidnapper, too. What in the HELL does the anthrax killer have to do with anything?

"if we cannot kill or arrest those responsible for what happened back in 2001... where is the deterrent for those who may attack us in the future..."

And it took us 3 years to get Hitler, and we knew where he was. Please.

The deterrent? You don't deter fucks like these, champ. You prevent them from striking the homeland again. You might have a point here if it weren't for all of the attacks we've had on American soil since 2001 ... oh wait.

You don't have a point.

"His posting cannot be blamed on anyone other than our commander-in-chief...and HIS failure to protect us..."

C-in-C ..? You mean Clinton, who had more than one opportunity to prevent 9/11, entirely?

Or do you mean Carter, who while not starting this shit, didn't help end it, when he could have.

Or do you mean Bush who, while not capturing Bin Laden has sent a fuck-load of jihadi bastards to the pits of Hades?

I guess the Democrat turn-coat fucks aren't responsible for this at all, huh? Bending fuck over themselves backwards to chop away at Bush to secure their fat, corrupt asses in their Congressional seats by feeding bullshit to idiots like you, who buy their tripe.

Can I sell you a bridge?

Whatever, dude .. you're such a douche I'm surprised your posts aren't sponsored by Massengil.

And for the record, and against all common and military sense, my solution is to give the Dems and OBL exactly what they/he wants.

A complete and immediate pull-out of all U.S. troops from Iraq to be redeployed to Afghanistan.

To be quickly followed by a victory dance by OBL and a restatement of his previous missive when he called the U.S. a "Paper Tiger."

Also following would be calls to "end the Afghanistan occupation" by all the usual suspects.

Oh... and one last thing to conform with OBL's wishes:

The U.S. and most if not all of the West would "surrender to Allah."

"nogo war, you're not the least bit troubled that Osama could replace you in the comments section here and none of us would notice... That doesn't bother you?" -- Paul

So, according to simpleton conservative logic, If Osama is for it, one needs to be against it, and if Osama is against it, one needs to be for it.

Thus, reflecting their lack of education the conservatives like Paul argue:

Osama is against global warming; we need to be for global warming.

Osama claims he wants U.S. troops out of Iraq; we need to show how much we love the troops by keeping them in harm's way where they get killed and maimed,

Osama finds it strange that Americans elected Bush in 2004; we need to elect someone just as shortsighted in 2008.

Trouble is, conservatives, Osama's newest video revealed that he also favors the low tax rate of 2.5 percent found under Islamic law.

So that means that henceforth you'll be favoring high tax rates, right, conservatives?

Bush 9/14/01:
"I can hear you. The rest of the world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon," Bush answered."

I guess Bush has a different concept of time than most of us.

WTF is that supposed to mean? As if capturing/killing OBL/Zawahiri, etc. would be the end game, or that all started and ends with their death/capture.

Anybody who thinks THAT has their head firmly planted up their ass.

"I can hear you. The rest of the world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon," Bush answered."

I guess Bush has a different concept of time than most of us."

WHAT?! You've officially gone from barking moonbat to ranting idiot. What the hell did that post mean?

Say what you will about Bush, and I know that you will, but I find it hard to believe that no one's heard us.

Douche II: Moronic Boog-a-loo

Baghdad barney:

Actually I did know, but I'm not the President of the United States! Keep defending this boob that embarrasses all of us.

And to think an obvious mis-statement by Bush is proof he didn't know what APEC is is delusional BS on your part.

But... maybe your right. Maybe all the other APEC summits he attended just didn't impress upon him the fact OPEC and APEC aren't the same thing.

You are BDS personified.

Insert Kerry's botched joke here____________ .

How long did it take to catch Theodore Kaczynski?

Was the entire US military going after him?

Idiot.