Fox news showed Schumer making this ridiculous statement and asked one of their military analysts to comment on it. The analyst rightly said Schumer is a liar. I wish I could remember his name so I could send him a thank you for his spot on answer.
I haven't seen any other coverage of the or the analyst's answer but I wish it would get played and replayed until hell freezes over.
Chuck
2. Posted by
Charles Bannerman | September 9, 2007 6:47 AM |
Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Schumer thinks this growing air of cooperation that has developed between Iraqi civilians, Iraqi military and police and US troops just suddenly materialized out of thin air?
Chuck Schumer: "I went to the public schools myself. And they were great for me."
Ignorance is indeed bliss.
3. Posted by
Oyster | September 9, 2007 7:24 AM |
Score: 12 (12 votes cast)
6. Posted by
scrapiron | September 9, 2007 8:27 AM | Score: 6 (10 votes cast)
scrapiron:
You can't totally blame the politicians in NY. The 'people' of NY put them there and keep them there knowing they are anti-american slime. (ex. Chuckie, Shrillary) The danger these politicians, including Criminal aliens are not criminals Rudy, are more dangerous to the individual family in America than all of the terrorists combined. The anti-american left think they are the educated elite while in fact they are the poorly to non-educated of the world. Brainwashed by people as stupid as you are does not equal education.
6. Posted by
scrapiron | September 9, 2007 8:27 AM |
Score: 6 (10 votes cast)
7. Posted by
GeminiChuck | September 9, 2007 8:42 AM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
GeminiChuck:
I'm sure that Schumer will soon apologize for those anti US military remarks - right after Murtha apologizes for calling the Marines murderers and Dick Turbin apologizes for likening our military to German Nazis. gc
7. Posted by
GeminiChuck | September 9, 2007 8:42 AM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
8. Posted by
GianiD | September 9, 2007 9:34 AM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
GianiD:
Not sure any of you have access to a fax today, but how great would it be for his offices top open Monday noon and have multiple copies of this cartoon of a man, and his caricature and quote waiting for him.
Washington, DC
313 Hart Senate Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-6542
Fax: 202-228-3027
TDD: 202-224-0420
New York City
757 Third Avenue
Suite 17-02
New York, NY 10017
Phone: 212-486-4430
Fax: 212-486-7693
TDD: 212-486-7803
Albany
Leo O'Brien Building, Room 420
Albany, NY 12207
Phone: 518-431-4070
Fax: 518-431-4076
Buffalo
130 South Elmwood Avenue #660
Buffalo, NY 14202
Phone: 716-846-4111
Fax: 716-846-4113
Binghamton
15 Henry Street, Room M103
Binghamton, NY 13901
Phone: 607-772-6792
Fax: 607-772-8124
Hudson Valley
One Park Place, Suite 100
Peekskill, NY 10566
Phone: 914-734-1532
Fax: 914-734-1673
Long Island
145 Pine Lawn Road #300
Melville, NY 11747
Phone: 631-753-0978
Fax: 631-753-0997
Rochester
100 State Street, Room 3040
Rochester, NY 14614
Phone: 585-263-5866
Fax: 585-263-3173
Syracuse
100 South Clinton Street, Room 841
Syracuse, NY 13261-7318
Phone: 315-423-5471
Fax: 315-423-5185
8. Posted by
GianiD | September 9, 2007 9:34 AM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
On top of being despicably disrespectful and hateful of our soldiers and sailors, that man has absolutely no foundation in logic whatsoever. There are so many things wrong with that quote, it would probably take me about five times as long to disassemble it... And now that I have said that, I realize I lack the time. Bah!
9. Posted by
Linoge | September 9, 2007 9:36 AM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
12. Posted by
civil behavior | September 9, 2007 10:16 AM | Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
civil behavior:
ACTUALLY, American forces are paying Sunni insurgents hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash to switch sides and help them to defeat Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
One sheikh in a town south of Baghdad was given $38,000 and promised a further $189,000 over three months to drive Al-Qaeda fighters from a nearby camp.
American democracy at work replicating the exact same methods used in the same way we control our own population. Greed.
PRICELESS.
12. Posted by
civil behavior | September 9, 2007 10:16 AM |
Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
15. Posted by
Jumpinjoe | September 9, 2007 10:28 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Jumpinjoe:
American democracy at work replicating the exact same methods used in the same way we control our own population. Greed
Right on dude or dudette, I agree with what you say here. It's exactly the way Democrats use their gullible masses to turn against their country in exchange for the promise of goodies from the government.
Your parallel is astounding and a piece of brilliant thinking.
15. Posted by
Jumpinjoe | September 9, 2007 10:28 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
16. Posted by
Paul | September 9, 2007 10:28 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Paul:
civil behavior you where dumb enough to believe that story... I read it, they claim they saw it first hand NUT they don't bother mention the name of the U.S. Soldier (or Marine) who did it... Come on...
Sorta like that Kos entry a while back. "The Right Wing Blogs are horrible, Trust me" with no links or other evidence.
16. Posted by
Paul | September 9, 2007 10:28 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
17. Posted by
kim | September 9, 2007 10:29 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
kim:
cb regrets that people can be paid to oppose terrorists.
cb, just think a little. Where are you in your head about this whole mess. Money? But, isn't it ideology they are in an uproar over? How about you? What motivates your bitter ass?
=============================
17. Posted by
kim | September 9, 2007 10:29 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
21. Posted by
civil behavior | September 9, 2007 11:06 AM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
civil behavior:
Gen Jones, Brent Scowcroft, Amb Crocker....
"Without political reconciliation the military troops will be unable to hold Iraq back from what worked for Saddam."
2% of the fighting is coming from Al Queda forces the other 98% is sectarian fighting. If millions are being exchanged to encourage Sunnis to purge Al Queda from Ramadi alone (inclusive of ONLY the city limits)how many trillions will it take to quell the militia infighting.
Yep, Greed solves all. (None of those billions gone missing during CPA's reign went to corruption either huh Paul?)
When Pretty boy george and the Dick can walk unattended in the streets of Bagdad then the mission will have been accomplished.
Until then this president is going to hand off this mess to a Democratic president. From there the military business talking heads will drag this on for a few more years when eventually the American public will step in and finally make it happen like they did in the 70's.
In the meantime the carbon emissions are growing at a rate of 2% a year in the US alone notwithstanding the growth worldwide. Digging ourselves deeper into a black hole while the ignorance of the 20% percenters will claim "we're making progress".
So let's gas up the SUV, hook up the boat and let's kill a few more for the gipper.
Foolish stupid Americanos.
21. Posted by
civil behavior | September 9, 2007 11:06 AM |
Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
24. Posted by
Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2007 11:26 AM | Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
Steve Crickmore:
I think there is some common ground between what Schumer said: crediting the warlords (the tribal sheiks) for confronting Al Queda... and then credit to Bush and the Pentagon in strengthening them, through the surge, so that they are more successful. From an article in today's 'Washington Post'
The "Anbar Awakening" represented perhaps the most important shift in years, but it generated little debate at the White House. Long before the tribes switched sides, the administration conducted a policy exercise on how to team up with former insurgents. But when such an alliance occurred, it bubbled up from the ground with no Washington involvement. "We're not smart enough to know the course that these matters might take," Rice conceded to an Australian newspaper last week.
24. Posted by
Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2007 11:26 AM |
Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
26. Posted by
Paul | September 9, 2007 11:40 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Paul:
Steve you wouldn't mind quoting that in context now would you....
Bush benefited from good timing. As he introduced his new strategy, Marine commanders had already made common cause with local Sunni tribal leaders who had broken with the Sunni insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq, also called AQI.
Why the sheiks turned remains a point of debate, but it seems clear that the tribes resented al-Qaeda's efforts to ban smoking and marry local women to build ties to the region. "Marrying women to strangers, let alone foreigners, is just not done," Australian Lt. Col. David Kilcullen, a Petraeus adviser, wrote in an essay.
The sheik who forged the alliance with the Americans, Abdul Sattar Buzaigh al-Rishawi, traced the decision to fight al-Qaeda to Sept. 14, 2006, long before the new Bush strategy, but the president's plan dispatched another 4,000 U.S. troops to Anbar to exploit the situation.
So "the split" happened 90 days before the surge started. But as late as December there where still 70 attacks a day in Anbar. The chasing off of Al Qaeda didn't happen until the extra 4000 troops arrived.
Contrast that to Schumer who said the progress was made DESPITE the U.S. Troops.
I'm not sure the "common ground" that you can reach. Smucker is lying.
26. Posted by
Paul | September 9, 2007 11:40 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
27. Posted by
Paul | September 9, 2007 11:48 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Paul:
Further Steve, if you read your own quote, with the benefit of knowledge, it says less (or more) than you think.
The COIN doctrine under which the surge is being executed was written by Petreus. It specifically calls for operations like this.
Your quote again:
The "Anbar Awakening" represented perhaps the most important shift in years, but it generated little debate at the White House. Long before the tribes switched sides, the administration conducted a policy exercise on how to team up with former insurgents. But when such an alliance occurred, it bubbled up from the ground with no Washington involvement.
So we had the policy was generated LONG BEFORE the split. When our guys saw an opportunity they used the new policy to exploit it.
In other words, the surge is working.
27. Posted by
Paul | September 9, 2007 11:48 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
31. Posted by
Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2007 12:23 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Steve Crickmore:
Let us not get to far ahead of ourselves..The surge is working in Anbar in large part, because of our opponents- al Queda, many of whose leaders are foreigners, couldn't be more pre-medieval or barbaric even with their own brethren. The Sunnis, under Saddam, were noted for being traditionally less dogmatic than the Shiites. And the Iraqi Shiite militias or even non- al Queda Iraqi Sunni gangs have much more formidable local support, and will be alot harder to isolate.
31. Posted by
Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2007 12:23 PM |
Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
What actually is pricelees is you making that comment without adding the context behind the story as Pat Dollard explains.
And Paul, you need to read the post as well, the story is true the Times just left out the context behind the program like all good MSM lemmings do. (and civil [mis]behaviourists)
37. Posted by
marc | September 9, 2007 5:29 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Comments (47)
Schumer is one of the most ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by GianiD | September 9, 2007 6:00 AM | Score: 14 (14 votes cast)
Schumer is one of the most partisan, hateful, despicable troop hating POS liberals outside of Mass or Mexifornia.
Is this really even a surprise? Libs always hate any truth they disagree with.
1. Posted by GianiD | September 9, 2007 6:00 AM |
Score: 14 (14 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 06:00
2. Posted by Charles Bannerman | September 9, 2007 6:47 AM | Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Fox news showed Schumer making this ridiculous statement and asked one of their military analysts to comment on it. The analyst rightly said Schumer is a liar. I wish I could remember his name so I could send him a thank you for his spot on answer.
I haven't seen any other coverage of the or the analyst's answer but I wish it would get played and replayed until hell freezes over.
Chuck
2. Posted by Charles Bannerman | September 9, 2007 6:47 AM |
Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 06:47
3. Posted by Oyster | September 9, 2007 7:24 AM | Score: 12 (12 votes cast)
Schumer thinks this growing air of cooperation that has developed between Iraqi civilians, Iraqi military and police and US troops just suddenly materialized out of thin air?
Chuck Schumer: "I went to the public schools myself. And they were great for me."
Ignorance is indeed bliss.
3. Posted by Oyster | September 9, 2007 7:24 AM |
Score: 12 (12 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 07:24
4. Posted by Oyster | September 9, 2007 7:27 AM | Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
"I wish I could remember his name so I could send him a thank you for his spot on answer."
It was Ralph Peters
4. Posted by Oyster | September 9, 2007 7:27 AM |
Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 07:27
5. Posted by John F Not Kerry | September 9, 2007 8:25 AM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
When I left New York in 1990 I think we had D'Amato and Moynihan. Now it's Schumer and Clinton. What a disgrace.
5. Posted by John F Not Kerry | September 9, 2007 8:25 AM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 08:25
6. Posted by scrapiron
| September 9, 2007 8:27 AM | Score: 6 (10 votes cast)
You can't totally blame the politicians in NY. The 'people' of NY put them there and keep them there knowing they are anti-american slime. (ex. Chuckie, Shrillary) The danger these politicians, including Criminal aliens are not criminals Rudy, are more dangerous to the individual family in America than all of the terrorists combined. The anti-american left think they are the educated elite while in fact they are the poorly to non-educated of the world. Brainwashed by people as stupid as you are does not equal education.
6. Posted by scrapiron
| September 9, 2007 8:27 AM |
Score: 6 (10 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 08:27
7. Posted by GeminiChuck | September 9, 2007 8:42 AM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
I'm sure that Schumer will soon apologize for those anti US military remarks - right after Murtha apologizes for calling the Marines murderers and Dick Turbin apologizes for likening our military to German Nazis. gc
7. Posted by GeminiChuck | September 9, 2007 8:42 AM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 08:42
8. Posted by GianiD | September 9, 2007 9:34 AM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Not sure any of you have access to a fax today, but how great would it be for his offices top open Monday noon and have multiple copies of this cartoon of a man, and his caricature and quote waiting for him.
Washington, DC
313 Hart Senate Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-6542
Fax: 202-228-3027
TDD: 202-224-0420
New York City
757 Third Avenue
Suite 17-02
New York, NY 10017
Phone: 212-486-4430
Fax: 212-486-7693
TDD: 212-486-7803
Albany
Leo O'Brien Building, Room 420
Albany, NY 12207
Phone: 518-431-4070
Fax: 518-431-4076
Buffalo
130 South Elmwood Avenue #660
Buffalo, NY 14202
Phone: 716-846-4111
Fax: 716-846-4113
Binghamton
15 Henry Street, Room M103
Binghamton, NY 13901
Phone: 607-772-6792
Fax: 607-772-8124
Hudson Valley
One Park Place, Suite 100
Peekskill, NY 10566
Phone: 914-734-1532
Fax: 914-734-1673
Long Island
145 Pine Lawn Road #300
Melville, NY 11747
Phone: 631-753-0978
Fax: 631-753-0997
Rochester
100 State Street, Room 3040
Rochester, NY 14614
Phone: 585-263-5866
Fax: 585-263-3173
Syracuse
100 South Clinton Street, Room 841
Syracuse, NY 13261-7318
Phone: 315-423-5471
Fax: 315-423-5185
8. Posted by GianiD | September 9, 2007 9:34 AM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 09:34
9. Posted by Linoge | September 9, 2007 9:36 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
On top of being despicably disrespectful and hateful of our soldiers and sailors, that man has absolutely no foundation in logic whatsoever. There are so many things wrong with that quote, it would probably take me about five times as long to disassemble it... And now that I have said that, I realize I lack the time. Bah!
9. Posted by Linoge | September 9, 2007 9:36 AM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 09:36
10. Posted by kim | September 9, 2007 9:42 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Hold everything, Chuckie, there's an Adam Gadahn on the line for you.
========================
10. Posted by kim | September 9, 2007 9:42 AM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 09:42
11. Posted by Jumpinjoe | September 9, 2007 10:04 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Schumer knew he was lying. But he had to say something out of desperation.
If he would have truly believed his own words he would have provided something more in-depth on why he believed his own words.
But most of us know that expanded explanations are not needed when your followers never question anything that is counter to the President.
In the meantime, some of us are waiting for one of two things despite your constituency's gullibility :
An explanation as to how you arrived at your conclusion.
Or....
An apology to those that serve their nation in the Armed Forces.
11. Posted by Jumpinjoe | September 9, 2007 10:04 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 10:04
12. Posted by civil behavior | September 9, 2007 10:16 AM | Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
ACTUALLY, American forces are paying Sunni insurgents hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash to switch sides and help them to defeat Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
One sheikh in a town south of Baghdad was given $38,000 and promised a further $189,000 over three months to drive Al-Qaeda fighters from a nearby camp.
American democracy at work replicating the exact same methods used in the same way we control our own population. Greed.
PRICELESS.
12. Posted by civil behavior | September 9, 2007 10:16 AM |
Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 10:16
13. Posted by RFA | September 9, 2007 10:22 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
se·di·tion (s-dshn)
n.
1. Conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of a state.
2. Insurrection; rebellion.
Can we question this sleaseball's patriotism now?
13. Posted by RFA | September 9, 2007 10:22 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 10:22
14. Posted by kim | September 9, 2007 10:26 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
cb, how uncivil of you. You know it is essentially found money that has propped up the whole Radical Islam business, don't you.
How do you like being the tool of a failed heavy metal music critic and political fabulist?
======================================
14. Posted by kim | September 9, 2007 10:26 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 10:26
15. Posted by Jumpinjoe | September 9, 2007 10:28 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Right on dude or dudette, I agree with what you say here. It's exactly the way Democrats use their gullible masses to turn against their country in exchange for the promise of goodies from the government.
Your parallel is astounding and a piece of brilliant thinking.
15. Posted by Jumpinjoe | September 9, 2007 10:28 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 10:28
16. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 10:28 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
civil behavior you where dumb enough to believe that story... I read it, they claim they saw it first hand NUT they don't bother mention the name of the U.S. Soldier (or Marine) who did it... Come on...
Sorta like that Kos entry a while back. "The Right Wing Blogs are horrible, Trust me" with no links or other evidence.
16. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 10:28 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 10:28
17. Posted by kim | September 9, 2007 10:29 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
cb regrets that people can be paid to oppose terrorists.
cb, just think a little. Where are you in your head about this whole mess. Money? But, isn't it ideology they are in an uproar over? How about you? What motivates your bitter ass?
=============================
17. Posted by kim | September 9, 2007 10:29 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 10:29
18. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2007 10:36 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Civil B
If this is true then i applaud it as a success.. anything to wipe out the terrorist scum! money is no object..
As for Shmucky..He and Ward Churchill are cut from the same cloth..their America hating diatribe will avail them naught.
18. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2007 10:36 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 10:36
19. Posted by spurwing plover | September 9, 2007 10:38 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
This is that wack who was complaning about the prices of cereal yeah this flake is still continuing to whine
19. Posted by spurwing plover | September 9, 2007 10:38 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 10:38
20. Posted by Jer | September 9, 2007 11:02 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Not all New Yorkers show their 'support' by agreeing with this ****. With senators like the two we got stuck with, who needs enemies.
http://papundits.wordpress.com/2007/09/06/schumer-still-a-putz/
20. Posted by Jer | September 9, 2007 11:02 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 11:02
21. Posted by civil behavior | September 9, 2007 11:06 AM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Gen Jones, Brent Scowcroft, Amb Crocker....
"Without political reconciliation the military troops will be unable to hold Iraq back from what worked for Saddam."
2% of the fighting is coming from Al Queda forces the other 98% is sectarian fighting. If millions are being exchanged to encourage Sunnis to purge Al Queda from Ramadi alone (inclusive of ONLY the city limits)how many trillions will it take to quell the militia infighting.
Yep, Greed solves all. (None of those billions gone missing during CPA's reign went to corruption either huh Paul?)
When Pretty boy george and the Dick can walk unattended in the streets of Bagdad then the mission will have been accomplished.
Until then this president is going to hand off this mess to a Democratic president. From there the military business talking heads will drag this on for a few more years when eventually the American public will step in and finally make it happen like they did in the 70's.
In the meantime the carbon emissions are growing at a rate of 2% a year in the US alone notwithstanding the growth worldwide. Digging ourselves deeper into a black hole while the ignorance of the 20% percenters will claim "we're making progress".
So let's gas up the SUV, hook up the boat and let's kill a few more for the gipper.
Foolish stupid Americanos.
21. Posted by civil behavior | September 9, 2007 11:06 AM |
Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 11:06
22. Posted by kim | September 9, 2007 11:07 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
cb, I'm sorry to have to inform your bitter ass that the War in Iraq is over and the globe is cooling.
======================================
22. Posted by kim | September 9, 2007 11:07 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 11:07
23. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 11:18 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
CB (and Kim) since you mentioned it, I took the article apart in the post above.
CB you're very, very gullible.
23. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 11:18 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 11:18
24. Posted by Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2007 11:26 AM | Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
I think there is some common ground between what Schumer said: crediting the warlords (the tribal sheiks) for confronting Al Queda... and then credit to Bush and the Pentagon in strengthening them, through the surge, so that they are more successful. From an article in today's 'Washington Post'
24. Posted by Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2007 11:26 AM |
Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 11:26
25. Posted by kim | September 9, 2007 11:29 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
I heard that some Sunni family was served their roasted young boy with an apple in his mouth at a banquet sponsored by al Qaeda.
Savages, I say. Savages.
=====================================
25. Posted by kim | September 9, 2007 11:29 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 11:29
26. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 11:40 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Steve you wouldn't mind quoting that in context now would you....
So "the split" happened 90 days before the surge started. But as late as December there where still 70 attacks a day in Anbar. The chasing off of Al Qaeda didn't happen until the extra 4000 troops arrived.
Contrast that to Schumer who said the progress was made DESPITE the U.S. Troops.
I'm not sure the "common ground" that you can reach. Smucker is lying.
26. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 11:40 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 11:40
27. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 11:48 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Further Steve, if you read your own quote, with the benefit of knowledge, it says less (or more) than you think.
The COIN doctrine under which the surge is being executed was written by Petreus. It specifically calls for operations like this.
Your quote again:
So we had the policy was generated LONG BEFORE the split. When our guys saw an opportunity they used the new policy to exploit it.
In other words, the surge is working.
27. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 11:48 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 11:48
28. Posted by Falze | September 9, 2007 11:54 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Kindly don't lump all of us in NY with this lump of hog crap. Thanks.
(I know, it's not originally from Wizbang, but still...)
28. Posted by Falze | September 9, 2007 11:54 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 11:54
29. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 11:59 AM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
hey, I get blamed for Nagin and I'm not even in New Orleans proper... suck it Falze, you guys elected him (evil grin ;-)
29. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 11:59 AM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 11:59
30. Posted by Semanticleo | September 9, 2007 12:14 PM | Score: -4 (4 votes cast)
"there's an Adam Gadahn on the line for you."
Or the American spokesman for the Texas affiliate Bush Gang......
Ray Hunt.
30. Posted by Semanticleo | September 9, 2007 12:14 PM |
Score: -4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 12:14
31. Posted by Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2007 12:23 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Let us not get to far ahead of ourselves..The surge is working in Anbar in large part, because of our opponents- al Queda, many of whose leaders are foreigners, couldn't be more pre-medieval or barbaric even with their own brethren. The Sunnis, under Saddam, were noted for being traditionally less dogmatic than the Shiites. And the Iraqi Shiite militias or even non- al Queda Iraqi Sunni gangs have much more formidable local support, and will be alot harder to isolate.
31. Posted by Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2007 12:23 PM |
Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 12:23
32. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 12:30 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
>And the Iraqi Shiite militias or even non- al Queda Iraqi Sunni gangs have much more formidable local support, and will be alot harder to isolate.
(That's not quite true... but I'll even pretend it is for this discussion.)
So should we take the methods that have worked so far and continue to apply them or just pack our bags and go home?
32. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 12:30 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 12:30
33. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 12:31 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
BTW I note you admitted the surge is working... you know if I report you that you'll be thrown off Blue for that huh? lol
33. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 12:31 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 12:31
34. Posted by Semanticleo | September 9, 2007 12:44 PM | Score: -7 (7 votes cast)
BTW, Kim;
I apologize. You are already smarting from Clarice's slap on the wrist. It's especially difficult because you work so hard to be a member at JOM.
34. Posted by Semanticleo | September 9, 2007 12:44 PM |
Score: -7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 12:44
35. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 4:57 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
>I'm Paul and I am too scared to hear from Barney!!
Even in your passing Babble, you prove yourself a moron, blind to irony. If you recall, you where banned for what you DIDN'T post not what you did.
35. Posted by Paul | September 9, 2007 4:57 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 16:57
36. Posted by epador | September 9, 2007 5:25 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Ur English Sooo Gud BG!!!
36. Posted by epador | September 9, 2007 5:25 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 17:25
37. Posted by marc | September 9, 2007 5:29 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
civil [mis]behaviour:
PRICELESS.
What actually is pricelees is you making that comment without adding the context behind the story as Pat Dollard explains.
And Paul, you need to read the post as well, the story is true the Times just left out the context behind the program like all good MSM lemmings do. (and civil [mis]behaviourists)
37. Posted by marc | September 9, 2007 5:29 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2007 17:29
38. Posted by marc | September 9, 2007 5:35 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Baghdad barney:
I'm Paul and I am too scared to hear from Barney!!
No one is scared of you, just tried of stepping around the puddles of piss you leave disguised as comments.
38. Posted by marc | September 9, 2007 5:35 PM |