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Remember When Al Gore Said Hurricanes Were Going to Kill us All?

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To hear Al Gore and the global warming hucksters tell the story in late 2005, global warming was going to make hurricanes so common and so strong even people in Nebraska had better look out....

Of course what Al Gore did was stand on the backs of dead people from Katrina to score political points. Not altogether surprising but still pretty repugnant. Meanwhile we have more Hurricane forecasting news.

Hurricane Scientists Flubbed Forecasts for Two Years

Sept. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Hurricane researchers, who forecast seven more storms this season, have flubbed the past two annual estimates because of unusual El Nino and La Nina weather phenomena in the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.

The predictions reflect variables that make this kind of weather forecasting ``more art than science,'' said Eric Blake, a hurricane specialist at the National Hurricane Center in Miami. Two of the nine Atlantic hurricanes predicted already have occurred for the season that ends Nov 30. Last year, five storms emerged after nine were anticipated.

They couldn't accurately account for El Nino? We've known about El Nino for almost 100 years and have a mountain of data on it; but it didn't fit into their models? Yet they can model global climate for the next 300 years with laser accuracy? Sure they can.

Let me add though; we're not completely out of the woods yet... I think it is a bit early to say they "Flubbed" the forecast. The Atlantic Basin could have a late season rally, but the conditions don't favor it and either way, the forecasters would only be getting lucky to have the season live up to their predictions now.

But I am glad to see some sanity returning to reports about Hurricane forecasting...

Hurricane Katrina hit in 2005, during a ``freak season,'' Blake said, the most active since 1933. Hurricanes Katrina, Rita and Wilma all reached top level intensity and killed more than 1,500 people.

``It was an anomaly year, and probably won't happen again for many years to come,'' he said.

That's a far cry from the gloom and doom Al Gore and his ilk where trying to sell. And of course, I'll give you the obligatory reminder that Katrina was a Category 1 by the time she hit New Orleans and that the flooding of the city was a man made engineering failure. Even 2005 wasn't the year most people think it was.

This story goes to the very heart of why all the global warming models are flawed. The hurricane models can't contend with the variables from El Nino and La Nina which are climate phenomena we actually know a lot about. There is no way the climate models can accurately account for every variable for the next 300 years. It's pure fantasy (and hubris) to think they can.


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The globe is cooling. It's ... (Below threshold)
kim:

The globe is cooling. It's clouds, determined by cosmic rays, determined by the earth's magnetism, determined by the sun's magnetism, determined by the distance of the sun from the center of gravity of the solar system. But you knew that.
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"There is no way the climat... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

"There is no way the climate models can accurately account for every variable for the next 300 years." let alone next year or any time into the future because 'variables' are just that.

Just think...he was "this c... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

Just think...he was "this close" to becoming President of the United States....

I'm sure the Gorebots will ... (Below threshold)
hermie:

I'm sure the Gorebots will trot out some 'study' that 'proves' that 'Global Warming' is the cause for fewer hurricanes...then tie it in with the recent warm spells throughout the states as 'proving' that they are right.

Man, someday I hope to be s... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

Man, someday I hope to be smart enough to understand this stuff. Maybe I'll enroll in Divinity School and then flunk out, THEN I'll get it. But in the meantime I'll just muddle through.

There are fewer hurricanes ... (Below threshold)

There are fewer hurricanes these last two seasons because Karl Rove turned off the weather machine. Duh!

Seriously though, if you look at major hurricane seasons in history, they tend to be spaced apart: Camille in 69, Frederic in 79, Andrew in 92, then Ivan in 2004 and Katrina in 2005. They're ten to thirteen years apart, then it calms down.

Can anyone name ANY major hurricanes between Andrew and Ivan? I can name one, because it knocked the power out here for a few days and I was sick at the time. Other than that, I can't think of any.

Come on Paul, you have to h... (Below threshold)
J-Ho:

Come on Paul, you have to have faith in the Global Warming Experts. You're just not looking at the facts appropriately. ;-p

Did anyone see this propaganda piece on NOVA about "Global Dimming" - geeeesh

I recall during the El Nino... (Below threshold)

I recall during the El Nino/La Nina cycle in the late '90s one of the hurricane experts explained that these Pacific cycles tend to reduce the formation of Atlantic hurricanes. Alas, I don't remember the details of why this is the case.

It doesn't matter, of course, since the proponents of draconian government actions to "combat" global warming are never discouraged. Heat wave? Evidence of global warming! Hurricane? Evidence of global warming! Blizzard? Evidence of global warming! Linday Lohan drives drunk? Evidence of global warming!

The mature adults among us will recall the "coming Ice Age" hysteria of the enviro-wackos in the '70s. Remember, "global cooling" was being "caused by man-made greenhouse gases," and required "drastic government action" including higher energy taxes to "reduce the use of fossil fuels." Many of those making the argument thirty-odd years ago are the same boneheads making the opposite argument today (or are the professors of the current crop). It isn't so important to them whether the temperature is going UP or DOWN, but rather that the government enact confiscatory taxes and new regulations on private activity.

"All previous and cu... (Below threshold)
RicardoVerde:


"All previous and current research in the area of hurricane variability has shown no reliable, long-term trend up in the frequency or intensity of tropical cyclones, either in the Atlantic or any other basin." Dr. Chris Landsea
http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu
(January 2005, I believe - RV)

BTW- I was thinking back. ... (Below threshold)
J-Ho:

BTW- I was thinking back. Is it just me, or does anyone seem to recall the ACID RAIN scare back in the day. I seem to remember hearing about it everyday and how it was going to destroy us and kill kittens and mutate livestock and hot women. Anyone else remember that, or is it just me? What happened to Acid Rain???? Where's my acid rain (not my acid washed jeans, I lost those years ago)

It's not so much hurricanes... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

It's not so much hurricanes, but drought, declining snow packs, forest fires, melting ice caps, species dislocation and habitat loss, and extreme weather events - all are examples of how climate change is impacting us. We need to act to mitigate and adapt to these devastating events."... a quote from someone not known exactly known as a lefty scaremonger or wacko environmentalist....John McCain (Sept 10).

Steve:Yes, the clima... (Below threshold)
RicardoVerde:

Steve:
Yes, the climate changes whether humans cause it or not, so wouldn't we all be better to work at being flexible? Wouldn't that be better than fixating on some strawman/boogieman like CO2?

Steve, McCain trashed the S... (Below threshold)
kim:

Steve, McCain trashed the Swifties impulsively and without command of the facts. He's apparently not in command of the facts about global temperature regulation. Read my first comment and climateaudit.org. Carbon dioxide is a trace gas with a trace effect. Gerlich and Tscheuschner have shown that the thermodynamics of the IPCC's greenhouse gas model are unphysical, which means carbon dioxide can't warm us in the way postulated.

This has been a huge mass delusion and academic fraud, and the social and economic costs are high and rising.
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J-Ho:<blockquo... (Below threshold)

J-Ho:

Did anyone see this propaganda piece on NOVA about "Global Dimming" - geeeesh
I did, at least as much as I could stand before I started wondering how the Greens/Gore-ites were going to spin it. Then I had to change the station, lest my head explode.
Steve, you do know the seco... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Steve, you do know the second rule of political debate don't you.......

We all know the first rule, but not as many know the second rule.

The second rule of political debate says that anyone -in either party- who quotes John McCain loses. ;-)

The predictions reflect ... (Below threshold)
Eric:

The predictions reflect variables that make this kind of weather forecasting ``more art than science,'' said Eric Blake, a hurricane specialist at the National Hurricane Center in Miami.

In other words, we pay them and they give us wild-ass guesses. That's a great gig if you can get it.

I have a question for every... (Below threshold)
stan25:

I have a question for everyone that posted a comment here. Has anyone been cognizant of the fact that the enviro-terrorists are the most vocal when there is a Republican president is in the White House? It seems that way. When there is a Democrat in the White House, everything is all hunky dory.

Take the assertions of global cooling (Nixon), acid rain (Reagan/Bush Sr) and now global warming (Bush Jr), but they don t mention a thing when there are Dims are there. ie Jimmy (peanut brain) Carter and Slick Willie.

It's the evil corporations,... (Below threshold)
kim:

It's the evil corporations, stan25, and they are all Republican.
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Al Gore is still a blabberi... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

Al Gore is still a blabbering idiot and the news media still parrot his rediclous predictions frankly someone should take his ascar and toss it out into the ocean so he cant ever retreeve it AL GORE THE ECO-WACKO FALSE PROFFIT OF REDICLOUS BANTER

The gulls should pick over ... (Below threshold)
kim:

The gulls should pick over his ass and his car.
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BTW- I was thinking back... (Below threshold)
sean nyc/aa:

BTW- I was thinking back. Is it just me, or does anyone seem to recall the ACID RAIN scare back in the day. I seem to remember hearing about it everyday and how it was going to destroy us and kill kittens and mutate livestock and hot women. Anyone else remember that, or is it just me? What happened to Acid Rain???? Where's my acid rain (not my acid washed jeans, I lost those years ago)
J-Ho

Some of your answers can be found here.

Some notable ones:
Clean Air Act of 1970
EPA promotes scrubbers for coal-fired power plants
Acid rain emission sales rule passed

More info here as well.

"Some of your answers can b... (Below threshold)
J-HO:

"Some of your answers can be found here.

Some notable ones:
Clean Air Act of 1970
EPA promotes scrubbers for coal-fired power plants
Acid rain emission sales rule passed"

hmmm - must work on my sense of humor.

My point was, the doom and gloomists rule. No one ever came out and said "YAY! FINALLY, THE SCOURGE OF ACID RAIN HAS BEEN DEFEATED!!!" Nope, it was ignored and we moved right on to another "the sky is falling" crisis, because apparently, the sky is always falling.

I wonder if Al Gore cruising on a private jet affects acid rain, and global warming. Awwww, who cares - it's AL GORE! He can do what he wants!

we moved right on to ano... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

we moved right on to another "the sky is falling" crisis, because apparently, the sky is always falling.

Remember, avian flu is going to kill you.
If SARS doesn't kill you first.
Provided the Black Mold doesn't eat you in your sleep.
Assuming you're still alive after Y2K.
If you haven't already choked to death on your Alar-coated apple.
It's a miracle you survived acid rain and global cooling.

Hey Les - and, I live in Ne... (Below threshold)
J-HO:

Hey Les - and, I live in New Orleans, which means I'm doomed! Doomed I tell you! Doooooomed!

"I have a question for ever... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

"I have a question for everyone that posted a comment here. Has anyone been cognizant of the fact that the enviro-terrorists are the most vocal when there is a Republican president is in the White House? It seems that way. When there is a Democrat in the White House, everything is all hunky dory.

Take the assertions of global cooling (Nixon), acid rain (Reagan/Bush Sr) and now global warming (Bush Jr), but they don t mention a thing when there are Dims are there. ie Jimmy (peanut brain) Carter and Slick Willie."

Stan , you just gave one of the best examples of what I've been claiming for some time now. Enviro-terrorists , Democrats , Liberals , Progressives , Liberal Hollywood and the democrat Media are one and the same. Combined they make up the Democrat Party of Perpetual Fraud.(sorry Marc)

Democrats have nothing good to offer this Country in the way of ideas nor do they merit the positions they disgracefully hold. Lantos, you disgracefull basturd. You do not speak for Americans.n You speak for your like week minded criminal lying frauds, your democrat party.

Send AL GORE to BODEGA BAY ... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

Send AL GORE to BODEGA BAY and let him feed the gulls they will EAT OFF HIS HAND ahhh SQUAWK SQUAWK GO GET HIM MY FELLOW BIRDS PICK HIM APART SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK

I used to own a 1960 Four D... (Below threshold)
kim:

I used to own a 1960 Four Door Dodge Matador station wagon. The view over the dash was the same as the two door refuge in Alfred's classic.
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yeah I saw that NOVA show a... (Below threshold)
moseby:

yeah I saw that NOVA show about global dimming and it made me glad cuz coupled with global warming that means we will be even steven.

One more thing: Not to be ... (Below threshold)
moseby:

One more thing: Not to be disrespectful but al gore is a big dummy.




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