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More Evidence the Surge is Working

It's only one signpost but still it's nice to hear,,,

Empty wards in Baghdad hospital offer hope

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A row of beds lies empty in the emergency ward of Baghdad's Yarmouk Hospital. The morgue, which once overflowed with corpses, is barely a quarter full.

Doctors at the hospital, a barometer of bloodshed in the Iraqi capital, say there has been a sharp fall in victims of violence admitted during a seven-month security campaign.

Last month the fall was particularly dramatic, with 70 percent fewer bodies and half the number of wounded brought in compared to July, hospital director Haqi Ismail said.

"The major incidents, like explosions and car bombs, sometimes reached six or seven a day. Now it's more like one or two a week," he told Reuters.

The relative calm at the Yarmouk hospital lends weight to U.S. and Iraqi government assertions that a security campaign launched around Baghdad in February has achieved results.

In one emergency ward at the hospital, in a Sunni Muslim district of west Baghdad which has suffered disproportionately from sectarian conflict, just two patients were being treated. Neither showed signs of serious injury.

I wonder how Bush coerced these people to hiding the bodies when the reporters showed up? Maybe that's where Rove went.

The truth is that the surge is working. Present tense. The future still needs to effected. Still, reports like this are great news.... Well, to most of us anyway.


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gobs of liberal codswallup ... (Below threshold)
yo:

gobs of liberal codswallup landing in 3, 2 ..., 1 ...

Unfortunately, this is pret... (Below threshold)

Unfortunately, this is pretty predictable. The first rule of guerilla warfare is that when the government has sent in reinforcements, you back away from the reinforced areas, and attack on the periphery. The enemy is simply going to go off into the countryside and pick off targets out there rather than go for Baghdad while that area is reinforced.

We have already lost in Iraq because we didn't have enough troops in the beginning, nor did we have the strong leadership in the White House needed to make bold decisions like to kill off rebels like Muqtaba Al-Sadr. The surge is going to end up being too little, too late.

Well then, Barney, it's a g... (Below threshold)
yo:

Well then, Barney, it's a good thing the hospital had beds for them, wouldn't ya' say?

Also from the article:

"At the hospital morgue, only two of the eight refrigerated rooms contain bodies, many of them dating to violence weeks ago."

and

"In the last month there's been a really noticeable reduction," said surgeon Ali Adel. "Now most of the cases that come to us are ... random gunfire and accidents".

and

"the main morgue in central Baghdad, where the number of bodies received had fallen from up to 180 on the worst of days to as low as 12 a day."

and

"it's clear from the emergency departments in the hospitals that the situation is calm and stable in Baghdad," "

Face it, man ... casualties are down for both the troops and the Iraqis. I know that's disappointing for you since your half-assed arguments don't work unless you can throw dead bodies into the mix; but, whatcha' gon' do, eh?

Damn those troops of ours for being successful!

"We have already lost in Ir... (Below threshold)
moseby:

"We have already lost in Iraq...".

Proud of that statement, are ya? Yer a real hero!

Thank God you weren't in Bastogne in December 1944...

More good news on the groun... (Below threshold)
mantis:

More good news on the ground, indeed. Hopefully political progress will follow. Too bad Sadr's playing games.

The frantic and dumbest s... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

The frantic and dumbest speaker in our History is running around in circles mumbling OBLIVIOUS! OBLIVIOUS! as she is placed on hold by her AL Qaeda partners in Iraq. They can't find someone senior enough or sane enough to take her call without screaming "I'll cut your head off B****H! LOL

"The enemy is simply going to go off into the countryside and pick off targets"

Sorta like like the democrats when they are caught up in another scandal or the facts come out. They hide in the dark corners where the light is dim as their partners in the Media run smoke screens and repeat proven lies for their evil partners.

Hey Mike T , shut up stupid you do not speak for Americans , you speak for democrats. You haven't the brains to think for yourself nor the credentials to form an opinion let alone repeat democrat talking points that can be found in the construction zone outhouse.

Mike"The enemy is si... (Below threshold)
Wayne:

Mike
"The enemy is simply going to go off into the countryside and pick off targets"

Iraq isn't a jungle environment. Most of the Iraq countryside isn't suitable for this. There are mountains in North and NW and few areas suitable for attacks. However, getting them away from the cities will be a great help and make it much more difficult for the Insurgence.

Poll: Nearly 70 Percent Of ... (Below threshold)
civil behavior:

Poll: Nearly 70 Percent Of Iraqis Say Escalation 'Has Worsened' Their Lives

In June, outgoing Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Peter Pace argued that U.S. success in Iraq "is not about levels of violence" but that "it's about progress ... in the minds of the Iraqi people":

What's most important is do the Iraqi people feel better about today than they did about yesterday, and do they think tomorrow's going to be better than today? If the answer to those two questions is yes, then we're on the right path.

By Pace's own metric, the U.S. is on the wrong path. An ABC/BBC/NHK poll released today shows that since the escalation began, Iraqi opinion has starkly turned against the U.S. occupation, as most Iraqis see "deepening dissatisfaction with conditions in Iraq, lower ratings for the national government and growing rejection of the U.S. role there":

On the escalation:

65 to 70 percent of Iraqis say the escalation has "worsened rather than improved security."

78 percent say "things are going badly for the country overall," up 13 points since winter.

abcpolliraq.GIF

Overall conditions:

39 percent say "their lives are going well," down from 71 percent in Nov. 2005.

23 percent say things will be better in a year, one-third of the Nov. 2005 level.

23 percent report "effective reconstruction efforts in their local area," down 10 points since March.

On the U.S. presence:

79 percent oppose the presence of coalition forces, unchanged since winter.

63 percent say it was wrong for the U.S. to have invaded Iraq, up from 52 percent in March and 39 percent in Feb. 2004.

47 percent now favor "immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces," a 12-point rise since March.

Last week, Bush proclaimed that "normal life is returning" in Anbar, but 74 percent of Anbar residents believe their children's lives will be worse than theirs. In June, Petraeus said life in Baghdad was showing "astonishing signs of normalcy," but zero percent of Baghdad residents report feeling "very safe" at home. Overwhelming majorities of those surveyed give negative ratings to electricity, jobs, and access to health care.

Just thought I'd let you all know how the IRAQ'S feel about the surge rather than the propoganda YOU swallow.

Foolish stupid Americanos.

"Too bad Sadr's playing gam... (Below threshold)
yo:

"Too bad Sadr's playing games."

No kidding. However, Sadr's part of a bigger issue ... Iran and such.

One more thing, if we can c... (Below threshold)
Wayne:

One more thing, if we can concentrate our maneuver elements on the mountain terrain along the Iran and Syria borders, we can increase interdiction of support coming from those countries.

Hey dickweed...er, um I mea... (Below threshold)
marc:

Hey dickweed...er, um I mean civil [mis]behaviour... what didn't you highlite this section?

There are some improvements, but they're sparse and inconsistent. Thirty-eight percent in Anbar province, a focal point of the surge, now rate local security positively; none did so six months ago. In Baghdad fewer now describe themselves as feeling completely unsafe in their own neighborhoods -- 58 percent, down from 84 percent. Yet other assessments of security in these locales have not improved, nor has the view nationally.

And could this be a reason for some of the answers?

In Baghdad, related another [interviewer], "People in this area are afraid of everything, it was hard to do the work."

Yep, I bet. Many were probably very unsure who and what that interviewer was. Very unsure if they gave ANY answer that had the slightest appearance of siding with the U,S, would lead to them being ratted out to be quickly followed by a throat-slash in the dead of night.

How about this section CB:

Questionnaires were prepared in Arabic and Kurdish (using the Sorani dialect); 69 percent of interviews were either directly observed by supervisors, back-checked by in-person visits or back-checked by phone. Of the 117 interviewers on this project, all but two had previous experience on similar surveys.

Boy I'll tell you what... if I weren't "so stupid" I might think that smells like a potential 31% margin of error.

But then again, I'm "stupid."

ABC/BBC/UHK poll, eh?... (Below threshold)

ABC/BBC/UHK poll, eh?

I guess we know what those Iraqis think. Those, that is, who live inside hotels and bars deep within Baghdad, rather than the people in, say, Anbar and Basra?

No, Marc, you aren't stupid... (Below threshold)
SShiell:

No, Marc, you aren't stupid. Maybe Dickweed (Civil Behavior) is. Another thing Dickweed did not account for was over 50% of the respondents in this poll were Sunni. Imagine that. For a country where the Sunni population reprsents approximately 22% of the populace, a poll uses over 50% to supposedly reflect the attitudes of the country. I guess these are the same pollsters who told Kerry he won after the exit polls were reveiwed in '04.

"Just thought I'd let you a... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

"Just thought I'd let you all know how the IRAQ'S feel about the surge rather than the propaganda YOU swallow."

No liar, all you did was spew democrat and enemy (same thing) lies and propaganda to counter that which caused them and your panties to run amok. You are the party of perpetual Monday morning quarterbacking frauds.

DJ D:I guess w... (Below threshold)
marc:

DJ D:

I guess we know what those Iraqis think. Those, that is, who live inside hotels and bars deep within Baghdad, rather than the people in, say, Anbar and Basra?

Well actually, if you believe them, they did cover those areas. The link I provided details how they conducted the poll.

The biggest thing I noted is that 31% they never checked back on.

Potentially the original interviewer went into the field and turned in his/her report, but 31% of the time you have no way of knowing if the house/home/cave or person "interviewed" ever existed.

SShiell:Anothe... (Below threshold)
marc:

SShiell:

Another thing Dickweed did not account for was over 50% of the respondents in this poll were Sunni. Imagine that.

Thanks I didn't catch the section on who was polled, after hitting that 31% tripe I stopped before I regurgitated my sirloin sandwich. (with onions and peppers)

And BTW, get it straight, it's civil [mis]behaviour. And the ever popular dickweed.

Marcky,"Many were ... (Below threshold)
civil behavior:

Marcky,

"Many were probably very unsure who and what that interviewer was. Very unsure if they gave ANY answer that had the slightest appearance of siding with the U,S, would lead to them being ratted out to be quickly followed by a throat-slash in the dead of night."

I suppose somehow that was supposed to prove a point that the surge is working huh?

They are scared to death to show that they might be siding with the Americans? Huh, that must mean that the surge is making them feel more safe due to the fact that the Amricans are occupying their cities. Sure worked well for Sheik Abu Risa.

In November 2005, 63 percent of Iraqis felt very safe in their neighborhoods. Today........26% (averaged amongst all sects)
In 2005, despite the difficulties in their country, 71 percent of Iraqis said their own lives were going well. Today............
In late 2005, for instance, 54 percent said their power supply was inadequate or nonexistent. Today.......58% (averaged amongst all sects)
The number of Iraqis who call it "acceptable" to attack U.S. and coalition forces, 17 percent in early 2004, tripled to 51 percent in 2005. Today.....57% (averaged amongst all sects)

You know what your problem is? Your nationalism gets the better of your cognitive levels. You keep thinking that you are smarter than these terroristas. You keep repeating the same mistakes over and over expecting a different result.

Intransigence by the intellectual is never used as a substitute for resolve. But then we now know that most cons have trouble with ambiguity.

Foolish stupid Americanos.

civil [mis]behaviour:... (Below threshold)
marc:

civil [mis]behaviour:

You know what your problem is? Your nationalism gets the better of your cognitive levels. You keep thinking that you are smarter than these terroristas. You keep repeating the same mistakes over and over expecting a different result.

I sure do know what my problem is... spending way too much time reading, let alone responding to, the trash you attempt to pass off as something close to reasoned argument.

Nationalism?

And how do you know what country I'm from? IT could be anywhere, check my IP for the origination and get back with me.

Question asshat - how reliable is your poll when it over samples Sunnies by such a large margin? YOU know, the group that lost every vestige of power when Saddam went bye-bye.

Your poll is crap, just as your argument and just as your mental capacity to conduct any debate on any issue.

Thirty-eight percent in ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Thirty-eight percent in Anbar province, a focal point of the surge

Except that it's not.

Even Gen. Petraeus has acknowledged that Anbar "was the result, not of military actions, certainly, alone. It was the result of, really, a political shift where the population led by the sheiks of major tribes decided to reject al Qaeda and its Taliban-like ideology, and the extremist behavior that they have come to associate with it." Similarly, Defense Secretary Robert Gates recently admitted that the successes in Anbar were initiated by Iraqis, not U.S. troops.

Oops.

Brian:And so...</p... (Below threshold)
marc:

Brian:

And so...

How does that change al-Anbar, in addition to Baghdad, not being focal point of the surge?

You're making a point that is, well... pointless.

Unless, you believe it's bad military strategy to build on what was started by the Sunni sheiks of al-Anbar.

In that case your cluelessness knows no bounds. (which some believe is fact)

MArc -It ain't the... (Below threshold)

MArc -

It ain't the fireman's job to rebuild the house threatened by wildfires - just keep it from burning. We keep the terrorists at bay, and the Iraqis are quite capable of rebuilding and building to a point where they can protect themselves... if they feel it's worthwhile. More and more it's starting to look like it will be for them.

Amazing isn't it.... (Below threshold)
civil behavior:


Amazing isn't it.

We're making progress....we're in the last throes.....bring em on....major combat operations in Iraq have ended....mission accomplished.....we found the weapons of mass destruction.

Yesiree.....the surge is working.

Foolish stupid Americanos.

CBIf you ever encoun... (Below threshold)

CB
If you ever encountered a cogent, intelleigent thought it would never find its way to the written word.

HughS, as I'm sure you're a... (Below threshold)
marc:

HughS, as I'm sure you're aware, but it has to be said Cb's "intelligent thoughts" would never make as far as the written word because they never would make it past his sphincter muscle.

What sphincter muscle?... (Below threshold)

What sphincter muscle?

I'm not kidding...and this will get me in trouble here...but these trolls can't hold their mud....whether it emanates from their head or their ass.

"Brigadier-general Adam-Kar... (Below threshold)
nogo war:

"Brigadier-general Adam-Karim Khalaf, a spokesman for the interior ministry, said: "We have cancelled the licence of Blackwater and prevented them from working all over Iraqi territory. We will also refer those involved to Iraqi judicial authorities."

We don't need no stinkin' hearts and minds...

.. yes it is a good day when their are fewer Iraqis killed...it will be a great day when the Iraqi govt says...."ah well...ok we will start passing that stuff all the U.S. troops are being killed and wounded for.."We will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." After sunset of course...

Hey the War in Iraq is over... (Below threshold)
kim:

Hey the War in Iraq is over and we won. So did the Iraqis. And yes, it was all about the oil after all, making sure the Sunni get a little share of it.
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The globe is cooling, too. ... (Below threshold)
kim:

The globe is cooling, too. Foolish, stupid, Dhimmicrats.
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To cb and the other faggy l... (Below threshold)
moseby:

To cb and the other faggy libtards: who cares what the iraqi's think? When we invaded that shithole we shoulda made them all feel "like a chicken caught in a tractor's nuts". And another thing...they're damn lucky that their stinking corpses aren't also decaying alpha and beta particles. And that goes for their cats too!!

The games being played, man... (Below threshold)
kim:

The games being played, mantis, are Sistani teaching Sadr how to be a spiritual leader.
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