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Student Tasered While Questioning Kerry


At a University of Florida speech featuring Senator John Kerry, a student is tasered by school police while attempting to ask Kerry why he conceded the 2004 election. From The Ledger:

GAINESVILLE | U.S. Sen. John Kerry's speech at the University of Florida came to a dramatic close Monday, shortly after a vocal audience member was hauled off by police and shot with a Taser gun. Police announced this morning they will release the student.

Toward the conclusion of Kerry's UF forum, 21-year-old Andrew Meyer approached an open microphone at University Auditorium and demanded Kerry answer his questions. Meyer, a UF student in the College of Journalism and Communications, claimed that University Police Department officers had already threatened to arrest him, and then proceeded to question Kerry about why he didn't contest the 2004 presidential election and why there had been no moves to impeach President Bush.

A minute or so into what became a combative diatribe, Meyer's microphone was turned off and officers began trying to physically remove him from the auditorium. Meyer flailed his arms, yelling as police tried to restrain him.

He was then pushed to the ground by six officers, at which point Meyer yelled, "What have I done? What I have I done? Get away from me. Get off of me! What did I do? ... Help me! Help."

It's obvious the cops are waiting on this guy - look how many are around him prior to him asking a question. Sen. Kerry does try to deal with the guy, but the cops finally remove him from the mic and then it gets weird. USAToday's On Deadline has much more on the student.

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Comments (86)

Sounds like a InsaHANNITY o... (Below threshold)
Harry Mole:

Sounds like a InsaHANNITY or Limpbaugh plant that got what he had coming to him. TASER HIM AGAIN!

First Brussels, and now thi... (Below threshold)
Cousin Dave:

First Brussels, and now this? What is this world coming to? I notice that the female officer seems to be the belligerant one and the ringleader of the arrest. In another of the videos linked to by On Deadline, you can see her trying to prevent another student from photographing the arrest.

After hearing the guy rant ... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

After hearing the guy rant like a 2 year old, I am sympathetic to the taserors. The guy was a complete idiot and out of control.

That said, they probably shouldn't have tasered him, at least not if they want to avoid the perfunctory lawsuit that will surely come.

Resisting officers. Refusin... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Resisting officers. Refusing to leave. Presenting a clear and present danger to John Kerry. You get your ass tazered.

Pretty simple.

Mr. Mole:Where do ... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Mr. Mole:

Where do you get your assumption? I perused some of the kid's writings and they looked inane, covering such engaging topics as bicycles and television programing. Hardly the stuff of right-wing extremism. Apparently, one of the things he asked was why Kerry did not contest Ohio. Oooo. There's a hostile question.

I don't know what to make of this. Until I see evidence to the contrary, I'm siding with the police. It seems his questioning turned into filibustering, as self-important journalists are want to do.

He deserved it -- if he jus... (Below threshold)
Richard Romano:

He deserved it -- if he just cooperated instead of acting like a jerk, he would have got off fine. Yes, we have free speech, but you're not free to disrupt a speech either.

What happens when you resis... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

What happens when you resist arrest? Choose one:

a) you get a $50 gift card for K-Mart

b) a stern lecture from the officers whom are dogding your wildy flailing arms

c) you are subdued - a.k.a. tasered

- I suppose they could have subdued him the old fashioned way: with a few good swacks with a billy club; but I'm sure that would have gone over even more poorly.

I'm guessing that the people who complain about this would also be the first to complain when they are physically tossed from a a bar by bouncers for disrupting the place and endagering it's patrons?

I have no sympathy for him and think the officers acted accordingly. Remember, a taser gun is for subdual, it's non-lethal.

Actually, the kid was a lef... (Below threshold)
brainy435:

Actually, the kid was a left-wing moonbat. See Michelle Malkin's site, she has an eyewitness account. The kid wanted to know why Bush was allowed to "steal" the 2004 election, why Bush hasn't been impeached and if Kerry had been part of the "skull and Bones" society (I not not why).

they razed that little fell... (Below threshold)
markm:

they razed that little fella in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan....

Thank you, brainy435... (Below threshold)

Thank you, brainy435! I, too, think the Moonbats have fallen victim to paranoia if a fellow "Impeach NOW!" Lefty is seen as an "InsaHANNITY or Limpbaugh plant". Perhaps it's just simply reflexivity, but still!?

Our permissive society allo... (Below threshold)

Our permissive society allows such disturbed individuals to meander about unfettered, "validates" their psychotic opinions, and then "voices concern" when they go over the top. The UF administration certainly didn't show any concern for the flagrant disruption of a guest speaker, though - it's all about whether the officers used "excessive" force.

I don't see how you get the raving moonbat to shut up and leave - he was resisting from the beginning, and apparently had been at the mike for several minutes with his barely coherent ranting when the officers tried to get him out of there - without dragging him, and eventually tasering him. He should be thankful he didn't get the riot stick.

See, if these nut cases would just stay home, they wouldn't be any more bother to society than our own lefty trolls here. They can rant and rave and say any stupid thing that crosses their "minds" without fear of being tasered or arrested.

Your medication: don't leave home without it!

The Disease: Flaming BDS (... (Below threshold)
BillyBob:

The Disease: Flaming BDS (That's Bush Derangement Syndrome for FreeFried, since he suffers from it).

The Cure: Tazer

Best laugh I have had all day. Fricking Moonbat frothing with BDS gets zapped while crying for his momma.

Langtry, I guess the leftie... (Below threshold)

Langtry, I guess the lefties think their fellow lefties would only disrupt an Ann Coulter speech. This kid was clearly upset about at least three things;

1) That Kerry didn't fight the eletion results,
2) That Kerry didn't subsequently lead the charge to impeach and
3) That he feels betrayed that Kerry would be a member of the same group Bush was.

All three were indicative of his disappointment in someone he believed in at one point. I was expecting him to next accuse Kerry of the 9/11 "cover-up".

LOL, the kid was lefty loon... (Below threshold)
civil disobedience:

LOL, the kid was lefty loon. Apparently he escaped off the Soros reservation before reprogramming was 100% complete.

Yes, do TAZER him again...

The questions this little b... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

The questions this little boy asked were only a medium in which to gain the attention that he craved.

I'm pleased he gave the officers reason to taser him, I'm displeased that he will now be given all the attention he craves by the media and by his fellow attention-starved professional protesters.

If this were a capti... (Below threshold)
Rory:

If this were a caption contest my entry would be-


Freedom Fries has left the building....

<a href="http://www.youtube... (Below threshold)

This shaky phonecam clip has the kid's questions.

Anyone who calls this exces... (Below threshold)
Wayne:

Anyone who calls this excessive force most likely never dealt with disruptive individuals. The student use physically resistance and police use physical force as they had to.

Not only was he ignoring or... (Below threshold)
SarahConnor2:

Not only was he ignoring orders to show his hands, he was flailing around and moving towards the podium at one point. He also kept shaking off the police when they tried to grab and restrain him. Are the police supposed to read his mind and determine he doesn't pose a threat? He didn't leave them any other options.

Just another moonbat tool, nothing to see here.

I love the whole world seei... (Below threshold)
Jo:

I love the whole world seeing how the testosterone challenged democrats handle their fear. Like a wussy.

Waaaah. Waaaaah. Where's my momma??

Bwhahahahahahahahahaha

Wayne,Tasers are b... (Below threshold)
Rance:

Wayne,

Tasers are being marketed to the police as an alternative to deadly force. Lacking the Taser would a reasonable police officer shot this individual? With the advent of instant, omnipresent on-line video, we are seeing more cases of the police using the Taser, not to stop an armed perp humanely, but as a means of inflicting pain -- a high voltage cattle prod.


In this case, they had him outnumbered and down on the ground. He did not pose a threat, he wasn't high on angel dust, so there was no need to shock him, unless they were looking to invite a lawsuit.

They guy was loud, rude, obnoxious, and a whole string of other adjatives. However, if the Taser had stopped his heart, as they have on occasions in the past, he would have become a martyr and a lawsuit. The taxpayers don't need to be paying for that.

Heh. Poor kid. The school... (Below threshold)
rrita m:

Heh. Poor kid. The school should add a Belligerent and Aggressive Behavior 101 class with a special Taser section (what to avoid)as a prerequisite.

Rance,After he was... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Rance,

After he was down, eye witness accounts tell of the officers clearly demanding he put his hands behind his back and stop struggling, or he would be tasered.
Who are we to rob him of his free will? He chose to be tasered.

It's an easy weapon to abuse, yes...but I don't see it as the case in this incident...at least from what I've read and seen.

Regarding what would have been done without a taser? Clubbed with a nightstick probably...or perhaps 'ye olde beatdown' which has worked wonders for getting people to what you want them to do since time began.

...or perhaps 'ye olde b... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

...or perhaps 'ye olde beatdown'

Obviously something his parents forgot to do when warranted.

I demand to know what Lurch... (Below threshold)
Son of a Pig and a Monkey:

I demand to know what Lurch was doing during this chilling silencing of dissent

Did that student ask him a ... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

Did that student ask him a certian question he did.nt want answered and you must wonder why his picture is kapt at a museum there at HO CHI MIHN CITY right there with HANOI JANE

Heralder,I count 7... (Below threshold)
Rance:

Heralder,

I count 7 officers in the picture at the time he was zapped. Are you saying that 7 officers couldn't get this guy cuffed without the use of a Taser?

Rance,How many of ... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Rance,

How many of those 7 can actually move into a postion to physically restrain him?

He was offered the ultimatum and made his choice, that's important when considering the action taken.

Using raw force to bend him into the position they need him is likely to leave more of a mark than tasering him then cuffing him. Besides that, why should they bother risking an elbow in the nose or a bite on the hand or a kick in the groin? He was beligerent and out of control and they brought him under control without any lasting physical damage to either party, I don't see the need to question the tactics here.

The dude is a known publici... (Below threshold)
Gizmo:

The dude is a known publicity seeker. The night of the release of the last Harry Potter book this summer he stood outside of a bookstore with a large sign that read "Harry Dies!!!"

Heralder,Forcefull... (Below threshold)
Rance:

Heralder,

Forcefully, moving him into a position where they could cuff him is not likely to stop his heart.

The price of a lawsuit for a broken arm is a lot less than the price of a lawsuit for wrongful death.

"He did not pose a threat, ... (Below threshold)
engineer:

"He did not pose a threat, he wasn't high on angel dust, so there was no need to shock him, unless they were looking to invite a lawsuit."

Let's see flailing his arms around (with a book in it), trying to resist the officers. I guess you've never been struck by a flailing arm, or smacked by a book. How about the safety of the other students in the auditorium. Should we just 'hope' none of them are hurt by his actions?

And you are positive he wasn't 'high'? Seeing the difficulty the officers are having in keeping him under control, at the time it was happening, as an officer you have to assume that he just might be on drugs.

Rance,The student ... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Rance,

The student didn't seem to worried about his heart stopping. If he was, I doubt he would have continued to struggle after they warned they were preparing to taser him.

Unfortunately there's no perfectly safe way to deal with out of control people like this. But you're saying you'd rather have people physically injured, perhaps permanently (back injuries and the like) rather than not injuring them at all? Risk. Risk is inherant here...what percentage of people tasered have had their heart stop?

I also doubt the officers were considering relative lawsuit prices at the time this was occuring. Frankly, I wouldn't want an officer around that took lawsuits into consideration over doing his job.

Eerie, I could have sworn I... (Below threshold)

Eerie, I could have sworn I heard him calling out,

"kin ah finish?

kin ah finish?"

Jonah Goldberg has it right... (Below threshold)
SteveM:

Jonah Goldberg has it right:

In other words, he wasn't arrested for asking hard questions or for his "dissent." He was escorted from the mic for going on too long, as per the rules of the event, and for generally being a pest. He was arrested for resisting the officers. It seems an important distinction. The fact that the kid thought it was wrong for the cops to pull him away from the microphone is pretty much irrelevant. Lots of folks think it's wrong for the cops to apprehend them. That's why we have judges and lawyers to work all that stuff out. When he started resisting the cops, what were the cops supposed to do? Should they have said "Oh, you don't want to be arrested? Gosh we didn't realize. You're free to go."

It does seem arguable that better cops could have talked him away from the microphone without all the fuss or carried him all the way out of the room so he wouldn't have an audience to martyr himself in front of. And, they do seem to have been too quick to taser the guy. Then again it's hard to tell what was happening in the close quarters. All in all, I have a hard time seeing this as anything but a minor campus incident. He was asked to stop talking after he had his allotted time, he wouldn't. He was asked to leave, he wouldn't. He was told to come quietly, he wouldn't. He was told to stop resisting, he wouldn't. He was told that if he didn't stop resisting, he would be tasered. He was tasered. I don't see any profound "issues" stemming from the whole thing.

What is so interesting abou... (Below threshold)
southdakotaboy:

What is so interesting about this is the fact that there is so little condemnation from the left. If this had happened with a conservative speaker it would be headline news, the subject of talk shows and the ACLU would be front and center.
On todays college campuses the administration often uses the fear of violence to shut down conservstive speakers. It will be interesting to see if Kerry has to stop speaking on campuses because people get tazered at his events.

Rance,Actually taser... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Rance,
Actually tasers are marketed not as an alternative to handguns, but to nightsticks.
Rephrase the question to "would they have hauled off with a billy club?"

Liberty is the soul's ri... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Liberty is the soul's right to breathe, and when it cannot take a long breath, laws are girdled too tight.
- Henry Ward Beecher, 1887