The Rocky Mountain Collegian, the student newspaper at Colorado State University, has weighed in on the tasering of a student at a University of Florida speech by John Kerry. Here is their learned collective opinion.
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Comments (82)
The NY Times? I'm sorry, we... (Below threshold)1. Posted by whut | September 22, 2007 2:34 AM | Score: -18 (18 votes cast)
The NY Times? I'm sorry, were they pimping a war on phony grounds?
Dick Cheney needs to set a better example for the youth.
1. Posted by whut | September 22, 2007 2:34 AM |
Score: -18 (18 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 02:34
2. Posted by Jim Addison | September 22, 2007 2:45 AM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
I realize I'm more than 30 years past submitting college applications, but back in the good ol' days you had to be at least of demonstrably moderate intelligence just to get into most colleges.
The taser-ers were University of Florida security officers, apparently directed by a school official. The taser-ee is a budding "notorious prankster" who may have set the whole thing up. No federal monkeys were harmed in making this video, Einsteins!
However does someone dumb enough to interpret an incident with state u. cops dealing with a guy acting erratically and heckling John Kerry as a reason to perform sexual acts with the President ever get into an institution of "higher learning" in the first place?
It's a shame liberals inherited the colleges by default, but it was inevitable. The rest of the graduates went out into the world to achieve, leaving the hapless incompetents behind to take the professorships, so the succeeding generations were spoon-fed the philosophy of losers and leftists (pardon the redundancy) instead of learning at the feet of geniuses and achievers. The results are painfully obvious.
2. Posted by Jim Addison | September 22, 2007 2:45 AM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 02:45
3. Posted by Peter F. | September 22, 2007 3:01 AM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
....and there's even a question as to whether or not the media is biased/leans left. Look what they think passes for "journalism"...
The 4th Branch is collapsing.
3. Posted by Peter F. | September 22, 2007 3:01 AM |
Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 03:01
4. Posted by Eric | September 22, 2007 4:16 AM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Oh, I'm pretty sure the NYT isn't hiring. Based on their financials the last couple quarters they'll be really lucky not to have more reductions.
4. Posted by Eric | September 22, 2007 4:16 AM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 04:16
5. Posted by JimK | September 22, 2007 4:48 AM | Score: 12 (12 votes cast)
So let me see if I get this:
1. Activist intentionally disturbs a John Kerry rally looking for trouble
2. Activist shoves a cop and gets tasered at a John Kerry rally
3. This is Bush's fault
4. Logically the only response for a student newspaper is to run "FUCK BUSH" in 48 point bold face.
Do I have it about right? Hey-zeus H. Christmas, this is one hell of a country we're runnin' around here. :)
5. Posted by JimK | September 22, 2007 4:48 AM |
Score: 12 (12 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 04:48
6. Posted by Oyster | September 22, 2007 7:00 AM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Their parents must be proud.
By going to college, one builds the platform which will be their jumping point toward a successful life and career.
These students will first have to climb out of a ditch.
6. Posted by Oyster | September 22, 2007 7:00 AM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 07:00
7. Posted by 89 | September 22, 2007 8:19 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
How collegial of them.
7. Posted by 89 | September 22, 2007 8:19 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 08:19
8. Posted by Violence Worker | September 22, 2007 8:30 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
This is now what passes for journalism. We have dumbed down to the lowest possible denominator.
VW
8. Posted by Violence Worker | September 22, 2007 8:30 AM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 08:30
9. Posted by Bullwinkle | September 22, 2007 8:41 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
The fine print:
This column represents the views of the Collegiate's editorial board.
The part they left off:
It highlights their total lack of intelligence, logic and the ability to reason but prove that at least they descended from apes, three generations or less ago and makes a very strong case for abortion on demand.
9. Posted by Bullwinkle | September 22, 2007 8:41 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 08:41
10. Posted by kim | September 22, 2007 8:42 AM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
We have a problem, Houston, and that is BDS. When everything is Bush's fault, what are you going to do when there is no Bush? The absurdity of some of the fringe left is really going to become apparent then.
This diffuse demonization is easy, powerful, and treacherous. What do you think will happen when the world's citizens realize the globe is not warming? What about when some reporter finds out that the war in Iraq was over a month ago?
The really ironic thing is that unless we are lucky, the economic expansion and general peace of the Bush years is going to be looked upon with more and more favor, the further we get from them. Bush has been an excellent executive, readily apparent to those who don't have to have these things pointed out to them by their president, as is recent wont.
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10. Posted by kim | September 22, 2007 8:42 AM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 08:42
11. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 8:53 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Colorado State is a second rate school. There are at least three schools better within a 100 mile radius. Most who go there are not there because it was their first choice.
11. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 8:53 AM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 08:53
12. Posted by JFO | September 22, 2007 8:56 AM | Score: -18 (18 votes cast)
Apparently, and not surprisingly at all, not one of you knee-jerkers took the 30 seconds to it takes to go to the actual newspaper and read about the headline.
It's about something so many of you righties despise - free speech. The irony of that of course is that free speech protects the purveyors of hatred from the right like Malkin, Savage and Coulter. The whole popint they were making had to do with the First Amendment.
So for those of you too lazy to actually go and read the offending newspaper they were protesting the violation of the free speech rights of the student who was tasered by writing a shocking headline. Probably a ttupid way to make a point but then none of you checked what the point was. But, as most of you did, you assumed it had something to do with that little man in the White House. For those of you with a modicum of openness here's the newspapers statement.
Little [k]im once again cheerleads for the wrong idea.
http://www.collegian.com/
12. Posted by JFO | September 22, 2007 8:56 AM |
Score: -18 (18 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 08:56
13. Posted by Jumpinjoe | September 22, 2007 9:08 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Sheesh.......I cannot believe how intolerant the students at Colorado State University are towards the gay community.
13. Posted by Jumpinjoe | September 22, 2007 9:08 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:08
14. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 9:15 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
So JFO,
If I go to your goddess Hill's next talk, take the opportunity to give a question, then dominate the mike and don't let go, don't stop when they cut off the mike, don't listen when they say my time is up, then start shouting "help me" when I am being forced to stop (because I will not stop until forced), and generally be a disruptive force during the speech -- you'll defend me for that right (in the name of free speech)?
14. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 9:15 AM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:15
15. Posted by JFO | September 22, 2007 9:19 AM | Score: -10 (10 votes cast)
I wasn't defending that idiot. I was defending the newspaper from the folks who assumed it was all about the little man in the white house.
No surprise that you'd change the subject - just like the little man in the WH does when he's been caught.
15. Posted by JFO | September 22, 2007 9:19 AM |
Score: -10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:19
16. Posted by JLawson | September 22, 2007 9:20 AM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Sorry, JFO - I went and read the editorial in question, and dug down through the comments on it...
That editorial is what it is - short and to the 'point', putting out the views of the editorial board. No handwaving to disguse it, no misdirection to evade it. It's simple, boiled down, and to the point what they were feeling.
In college, I can understand a certain disconnection with reality. But once again there's the 'Bush stole the election' meme going on, despite the fact there's no counts that show otherwise.
Reality is going to be SUCH a bitch slap for them someday...
16. Posted by JLawson | September 22, 2007 9:20 AM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:20
17. Posted by 89 | September 22, 2007 9:23 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
If JFO promises to do that naked and covered in urine (because it helps conduct electricity, bro, and it's art) then yes, I'll show up to support him.
And by support I mean laugh at him and videotape the altercation, then applaud the tazering.
17. Posted by 89 | September 22, 2007 9:23 AM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:23
18. Posted by Steve L. | September 22, 2007 9:24 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
JFO,
While the editorial board tried to make this out to be some sort of First Amendment statement, that is a crock. It is rationalization of the worst kind. Had they said that in the original piece, I might buy it. However, they only made that point AFTER they started taking hits over it.
In their smug, little brains, they assumed that their readers would all applaud them for being so clever. Instead, they clearly took enough heat that they felt that they needed to explain themselves. It is clear that they had no idea who their audience is or what their values are. Once they found out, they were forced to scramble around and try to rectify the situation.
Of course, they probably just learned that from the MSM.
18. Posted by Steve L. | September 22, 2007 9:24 AM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:24
19. Posted by kim | September 22, 2007 9:25 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Heh, heh. You're defending the newspaper, JFO, and I'm condemning the deluded fringe left. Good job, counsellor.
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19. Posted by kim | September 22, 2007 9:25 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:25
20. Posted by 89 | September 22, 2007 9:28 AM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
By the way, I resent the comparison between the she-bitch from Hell, Ann Coulter with Michelle Malkin. (And I had no idea who this Savage character was before searching for him...)
20. Posted by 89 | September 22, 2007 9:28 AM |
Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:28
21. Posted by Mark L | September 22, 2007 9:29 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
JFO:
You're not really a liberal are you? You must be a conservative who has created an avatar of a "liberal," as a means of giving everyone on the blog a idiot to smack down.
I cannot believe a real liberal -- even one suffering from BDS -- could really write something as clueless as your comment #12.
'Fess up. Be honest. You are a conservative who just trying to make people believe that all liberals are morons. It's just too dumb a comment to be real.
21. Posted by Mark L | September 22, 2007 9:29 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:29
22. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 9:41 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
I have to say, I've ALMOST NEVER disagreed with Ann Coulter. The only time I have, I have taken a position to the right of hers.
22. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 9:41 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:41
23. Posted by Jumpinjoe | September 22, 2007 9:45 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
I'm sure you can point out plenty of examples of "Righties" despising free speech that equals the examples of "Lefties" despising free speech....right?
For example the free speech loathing lefties usually shout down conservatives, throw pies or rush the stage at conservative forums on college campuses.
I look forward to the examples of "right-wing" students doing the same to stifle lefty speech.
Thank-you in advance for providing these examples to further illustrate your point.
23. Posted by Jumpinjoe | September 22, 2007 9:45 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 09:45
24. Posted by HughS | September 22, 2007 10:04 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Mr. McSwane says
we have found the unintended consequences of such a bold statement to be extremely disheartening
You don't know what disheartening is,boy. But you will find out the day you start looking for a real job.
24. Posted by HughS | September 22, 2007 10:04 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:04
25. Posted by David | September 22, 2007 10:13 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
We have relatives in Fort Collins and they wanted my youngest to go to Colorado St. My daughter visited and was totally unimpressed. Looks like she will be going to New Mexico Tech, an actually highly rated school. It has 100 undergrad physics students, most of whom will go on to grad school.
25. Posted by David | September 22, 2007 10:13 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:13
26. Posted by Justrand | September 22, 2007 10:17 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
I live in the S.F. Bay Area. Our son attended a High School in the city. At that school speech was "free" as long as it was Left...preferably (to those at the school) WAY LOONY Left.
But on the rare occaisions when someone dared to disagree with the Leftist mantra of the school they were literally SHOUTED DOWN.
By the TEACHERS as well as the students.
This had the intended effect of chilling ALL speech that wasn't in lockstep (Goosestep, actually) with the Left.
26. Posted by Justrand | September 22, 2007 10:17 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:17
27. Posted by civil behavior | September 22, 2007 10:20 AM | Score: -15 (15 votes cast)
When faced with a student armed with words not willing to go into time out two to four security cops needed to gang up on him unable to use muscle to wrangle the words to the ground they had to shock and awe him.
Seems that the words he was using were a little too strong for the storm troopers. The response was a typical knee jerk, mind numbing, shock and awe campaign just in case any other dissidents had a notion to step outside the bounds of regulated speech.
As for the collegial assessment from CO. It simply shows how wonderful a job Bush has done by setting the example in his own vetted speaking venues establishing free speech "zones", loyalty oaths, trained seal audiences and other widely regarded techniques as to how free speech in a democracy should be practiced.
F*** Bush is being generous.
27. Posted by civil behavior | September 22, 2007 10:20 AM |
Score: -15 (15 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:20
28. Posted by spurwing plover | September 22, 2007 10:21 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Another bunch of idiots printing their amount or raw untreated sewage screw those mindless morons
28. Posted by spurwing plover | September 22, 2007 10:21 AM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:21
29. Posted by Dave W | September 22, 2007 10:23 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
I think the topic of hate speech on the left came up in a different topic. Here is hate speech on the left. Anyone want to cite a similar example of a prominent right wing newspaper printing anything similar?
29. Posted by Dave W | September 22, 2007 10:23 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:23
30. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 10:28 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Let me practice some free speech:
M*t*rf*k*r Obama
Wh*re Hillary
It's Saturday, and I'm generous, as it's the weekend and all.
30. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 10:28 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:28
31. Posted by ExSubNuke | September 22, 2007 10:29 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
To be fair, Dave, I doubt ANY prominent newspaper would print that.
And no, the CS Collegian isn't a prominent newspaper.
31. Posted by ExSubNuke | September 22, 2007 10:29 AM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:29
32. Posted by nogo war | September 22, 2007 10:33 AM | Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
Irony on a Saturday morning with a cup of Joe...
I say...the full Senate should waste hours in debate...and condemn this affront on our Commander-in-Chief. After all an attack on our Commander is an attack on all our troops.
Given that the net allows more access than the NY Times subscription...this scurrilous attack on our troops must be answered.
Contact your Senator and demand action on Monday.
by the way F**k Ted Stevens........
32. Posted by nogo war | September 22, 2007 10:33 AM |
Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:33
33. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 10:39 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
I second the F88k Ted Stevens.
Let's go next with:
UGGGly B*tch Mikulski
Pinhead nerd assh*le Kucinich
What a wonderful start CSU has given us to productive and illustrative dialogue.
33. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 10:39 AM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:39
34. Posted by nogo war | September 22, 2007 10:40 AM | Score: -11 (11 votes cast)
What I love about Wizbang is a thread like this..
a place to share outrage on somthing ...that is nothing...while ignoring
http://www.adn.com/front/story/9322214p-9237360c.html
but hey look at the shiny thing..
34. Posted by nogo war | September 22, 2007 10:40 AM |
Score: -11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:40
35. Posted by kim | September 22, 2007 10:40 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Hey, cb, one pill makes you larger.
Notice how bitter your brew, nogo?
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35. Posted by kim | September 22, 2007 10:40 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:40
36. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 10:51 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
nogo,
why did you stop with all the fun we were having with name calling???
Come on, let's again flatter those CSU geniuses by imitating them:
Senile B*stard Fidel Castro
Smelly P*ssy Stabenow
Your turn!
36. Posted by nehemiah | September 22, 2007 10:51 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 10:51
37. Posted by jhow66 | September 22, 2007 11:10 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
no gonads nogo-just frigging ozone jfo-crazy behavior cb. Hey this is fun! (wonder what mine will be?) lol
37. Posted by jhow66 | September 22, 2007 11:10 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 22, 2007 11:10
38. Posted by Oyster | September 22, 2007 12:04 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
JFO, you nincompoop.
What part of "This column represents the views of the Collegian's Editorial Board" are you having difficulty understanding? That was the column. Four words. Everything else was after-the-fact.
Nice job twisting one's criticism of what was said into a wish to rob them of free speech.
What did they do? Sit around and figure what was the worst thing they could say about someone who won't do anything about it, least of all call for their beheading? Obviously their free speech is not in danger at all.
Now, if they had followed that with "Fuck Hillary" I'd be impressed.
38. Posted by Oyster | September 22, 2007 12:04 PM |