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Student Newspaper Strikes Out

The Rocky Mountain Collegian, the student newspaper at Colorado State University, has weighed in on the tasering of a student at a University of Florida speech by John Kerry. Here is their learned collective opinion.

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The NY Times? I'm sorry, we... (Below threshold)
whut:

The NY Times? I'm sorry, were they pimping a war on phony grounds?

Dick Cheney needs to set a better example for the youth.

I realize I'm more than 30 ... (Below threshold)

I realize I'm more than 30 years past submitting college applications, but back in the good ol' days you had to be at least of demonstrably moderate intelligence just to get into most colleges.

The taser-ers were University of Florida security officers, apparently directed by a school official. The taser-ee is a budding "notorious prankster" who may have set the whole thing up. No federal monkeys were harmed in making this video, Einsteins!

However does someone dumb enough to interpret an incident with state u. cops dealing with a guy acting erratically and heckling John Kerry as a reason to perform sexual acts with the President ever get into an institution of "higher learning" in the first place?

It's a shame liberals inherited the colleges by default, but it was inevitable. The rest of the graduates went out into the world to achieve, leaving the hapless incompetents behind to take the professorships, so the succeeding generations were spoon-fed the philosophy of losers and leftists (pardon the redundancy) instead of learning at the feet of geniuses and achievers. The results are painfully obvious.

....and there's even a ques... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

....and there's even a question as to whether or not the media is biased/leans left. Look what they think passes for "journalism"...

The 4th Branch is collapsing.

Oh, I'm pretty sure the NYT... (Below threshold)
Eric:

Oh, I'm pretty sure the NYT isn't hiring. Based on their financials the last couple quarters they'll be really lucky not to have more reductions.

So let me see if I get this... (Below threshold)
JimK:

So let me see if I get this:

1. Activist intentionally disturbs a John Kerry rally looking for trouble
2. Activist shoves a cop and gets tasered at a John Kerry rally
3. This is Bush's fault
4. Logically the only response for a student newspaper is to run "FUCK BUSH" in 48 point bold face.

Do I have it about right? Hey-zeus H. Christmas, this is one hell of a country we're runnin' around here. :)

Their parents must be proud... (Below threshold)

Their parents must be proud.

By going to college, one builds the platform which will be their jumping point toward a successful life and career.

These students will first have to climb out of a ditch.

How collegial of them.... (Below threshold)
89:

How collegial of them.

This is now what passes for... (Below threshold)

This is now what passes for journalism. We have dumbed down to the lowest possible denominator.

VW

The fine print:This ... (Below threshold)

The fine print:
This column represents the views of the Collegiate's editorial board.

The part they left off:

It highlights their total lack of intelligence, logic and the ability to reason but prove that at least they descended from apes, three generations or less ago and makes a very strong case for abortion on demand.

We have a problem, Houston,... (Below threshold)
kim:

We have a problem, Houston, and that is BDS. When everything is Bush's fault, what are you going to do when there is no Bush? The absurdity of some of the fringe left is really going to become apparent then.

This diffuse demonization is easy, powerful, and treacherous. What do you think will happen when the world's citizens realize the globe is not warming? What about when some reporter finds out that the war in Iraq was over a month ago?

The really ironic thing is that unless we are lucky, the economic expansion and general peace of the Bush years is going to be looked upon with more and more favor, the further we get from them. Bush has been an excellent executive, readily apparent to those who don't have to have these things pointed out to them by their president, as is recent wont.
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Colorado State is a second ... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

Colorado State is a second rate school. There are at least three schools better within a 100 mile radius. Most who go there are not there because it was their first choice.

Apparently, and not surpris... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Apparently, and not surprisingly at all, not one of you knee-jerkers took the 30 seconds to it takes to go to the actual newspaper and read about the headline.

It's about something so many of you righties despise - free speech. The irony of that of course is that free speech protects the purveyors of hatred from the right like Malkin, Savage and Coulter. The whole popint they were making had to do with the First Amendment.

So for those of you too lazy to actually go and read the offending newspaper they were protesting the violation of the free speech rights of the student who was tasered by writing a shocking headline. Probably a ttupid way to make a point but then none of you checked what the point was. But, as most of you did, you assumed it had something to do with that little man in the White House. For those of you with a modicum of openness here's the newspapers statement.

Little [k]im once again cheerleads for the wrong idea.

http://www.collegian.com/


Sheesh.......I cannot belie... (Below threshold)
Jumpinjoe:

Sheesh.......I cannot believe how intolerant the students at Colorado State University are towards the gay community.

So JFO,If I go to ... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

So JFO,

If I go to your goddess Hill's next talk, take the opportunity to give a question, then dominate the mike and don't let go, don't stop when they cut off the mike, don't listen when they say my time is up, then start shouting "help me" when I am being forced to stop (because I will not stop until forced), and generally be a disruptive force during the speech -- you'll defend me for that right (in the name of free speech)?

I wasn't defending that idi... (Below threshold)
JFO:

I wasn't defending that idiot. I was defending the newspaper from the folks who assumed it was all about the little man in the white house.

No surprise that you'd change the subject - just like the little man in the WH does when he's been caught.

Sorry, JFO - I went and rea... (Below threshold)

Sorry, JFO - I went and read the editorial in question, and dug down through the comments on it...

That editorial is what it is - short and to the 'point', putting out the views of the editorial board. No handwaving to disguse it, no misdirection to evade it. It's simple, boiled down, and to the point what they were feeling.

In college, I can understand a certain disconnection with reality. But once again there's the 'Bush stole the election' meme going on, despite the fact there's no counts that show otherwise.

Reality is going to be SUCH a bitch slap for them someday...

If JFO promises to do that ... (Below threshold)
89:

If JFO promises to do that naked and covered in urine (because it helps conduct electricity, bro, and it's art) then yes, I'll show up to support him.

And by support I mean laugh at him and videotape the altercation, then applaud the tazering.

JFO,While the editor... (Below threshold)
Steve L.:

JFO,
While the editorial board tried to make this out to be some sort of First Amendment statement, that is a crock. It is rationalization of the worst kind. Had they said that in the original piece, I might buy it. However, they only made that point AFTER they started taking hits over it.

In their smug, little brains, they assumed that their readers would all applaud them for being so clever. Instead, they clearly took enough heat that they felt that they needed to explain themselves. It is clear that they had no idea who their audience is or what their values are. Once they found out, they were forced to scramble around and try to rectify the situation.

Of course, they probably just learned that from the MSM.

Heh, heh. You're defending... (Below threshold)
kim:

Heh, heh. You're defending the newspaper, JFO, and I'm condemning the deluded fringe left. Good job, counsellor.
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By the way, I resent the co... (Below threshold)
89:

By the way, I resent the comparison between the she-bitch from Hell, Ann Coulter with Michelle Malkin. (And I had no idea who this Savage character was before searching for him...)

JFO:You're not rea... (Below threshold)
Mark L:

JFO:

You're not really a liberal are you? You must be a conservative who has created an avatar of a "liberal," as a means of giving everyone on the blog a idiot to smack down.

I cannot believe a real liberal -- even one suffering from BDS -- could really write something as clueless as your comment #12.

'Fess up. Be honest. You are a conservative who just trying to make people believe that all liberals are morons. It's just too dumb a comment to be real.

I have to say, I've ALMOST ... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

I have to say, I've ALMOST NEVER disagreed with Ann Coulter. The only time I have, I have taken a position to the right of hers.

It's about somethi... (Below threshold)
Jumpinjoe:
It's about something so many of you righties despise - free speech

I'm sure you can point out plenty of examples of "Righties" despising free speech that equals the examples of "Lefties" despising free speech....right?

For example the free speech loathing lefties usually shout down conservatives, throw pies or rush the stage at conservative forums on college campuses.

I look forward to the examples of "right-wing" students doing the same to stifle lefty speech.

Thank-you in advance for providing these examples to further illustrate your point.

Mr. McSwane says... (Below threshold)


Mr. McSwane says


we have found the unintended consequences of such a bold statement to be extremely disheartening

You don't know what disheartening is,boy. But you will find out the day you start looking for a real job.

We have relatives in Fort C... (Below threshold)
David:

We have relatives in Fort Collins and they wanted my youngest to go to Colorado St. My daughter visited and was totally unimpressed. Looks like she will be going to New Mexico Tech, an actually highly rated school. It has 100 undergrad physics students, most of whom will go on to grad school.

I live in the S.F. Bay Area... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

I live in the S.F. Bay Area. Our son attended a High School in the city. At that school speech was "free" as long as it was Left...preferably (to those at the school) WAY LOONY Left.

But on the rare occaisions when someone dared to disagree with the Leftist mantra of the school they were literally SHOUTED DOWN.

By the TEACHERS as well as the students.

This had the intended effect of chilling ALL speech that wasn't in lockstep (Goosestep, actually) with the Left.

When faced with a st... (Below threshold)
civil behavior:


When faced with a student armed with words not willing to go into time out two to four security cops needed to gang up on him unable to use muscle to wrangle the words to the ground they had to shock and awe him.

Seems that the words he was using were a little too strong for the storm troopers. The response was a typical knee jerk, mind numbing, shock and awe campaign just in case any other dissidents had a notion to step outside the bounds of regulated speech.

As for the collegial assessment from CO. It simply shows how wonderful a job Bush has done by setting the example in his own vetted speaking venues establishing free speech "zones", loyalty oaths, trained seal audiences and other widely regarded techniques as to how free speech in a democracy should be practiced.

F*** Bush is being generous.

Another bunch of idiots pri... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

Another bunch of idiots printing their amount or raw untreated sewage screw those mindless morons

I think the topic of hate s... (Below threshold)
Dave W:

I think the topic of hate speech on the left came up in a different topic. Here is hate speech on the left. Anyone want to cite a similar example of a prominent right wing newspaper printing anything similar?

Let me practice some free s... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

Let me practice some free speech:

M*t*rf*k*r Obama

Wh*re Hillary


It's Saturday, and I'm generous, as it's the weekend and all.

To be fair, Dave, I doubt A... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

To be fair, Dave, I doubt ANY prominent newspaper would print that.

And no, the CS Collegian isn't a prominent newspaper.

Irony on a Saturday morning... (Below threshold)
nogo war:

Irony on a Saturday morning with a cup of Joe...
I say...the full Senate should waste hours in debate...and condemn this affront on our Commander-in-Chief. After all an attack on our Commander is an attack on all our troops.
Given that the net allows more access than the NY Times subscription...this scurrilous attack on our troops must be answered.
Contact your Senator and demand action on Monday.

by the way F**k Ted Stevens........

I second the F88k Ted Steve... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

I second the F88k Ted Stevens.

Let's go next with:

UGGGly B*tch Mikulski
Pinhead nerd assh*le Kucinich

What a wonderful start CSU has given us to productive and illustrative dialogue.

What I love about Wizbang i... (Below threshold)
nogo war:

What I love about Wizbang is a thread like this..
a place to share outrage on somthing ...that is nothing...while ignoring
http://www.adn.com/front/story/9322214p-9237360c.html

but hey look at the shiny thing..

Hey, cb, one pill makes you... (Below threshold)
kim:

Hey, cb, one pill makes you larger.

Notice how bitter your brew, nogo?
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nogo,why did you s... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

nogo,

why did you stop with all the fun we were having with name calling???

Come on, let's again flatter those CSU geniuses by imitating them:

Senile B*stard Fidel Castro

Smelly P*ssy Stabenow

Your turn!

no gonads nogo-just friggin... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

no gonads nogo-just frigging ozone jfo-crazy behavior cb. Hey this is fun! (wonder what mine will be?) lol

JFO, you nincompoop.<... (Below threshold)

JFO, you nincompoop.

What part of "This column represents the views of the Collegian's Editorial Board" are you having difficulty understanding? That was the column. Four words. Everything else was after-the-fact.

Nice job twisting one's criticism of what was said into a wish to rob them of free speech.

What did they do? Sit around and figure what was the worst thing they could say about someone who won't do anything about it, least of all call for their beheading? Obviously their free speech is not in danger at all.

Now, if they had followed that with "Fuck Hillary" I'd be impressed.