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Juan Cole, The Dumbest Ph.D. in History

Wow, just wow.

Juan Cole gets some linky love from the New York Times because he thinks the now debunked Spanish transcript provides a "whole rack of smoking guns."

For a guy who is a Ph.D. and a college professor, he's dumb as a brick.

Here is the shocking new "impeachable" information Juan Cole Learned:

The transcript, it seems to me, provides a whole rack of smoking guns that could be a basis for impeaching George W. Bush. The transcript shows that Bush consciously intended to go to war without a United Nations Security Council resolution.The United Nations Charter, to which the United States is a treaty signatory (so that it has the force of American law), forbids any nation to launch an aggressive war on another country. The only two legal mechanisms for war are either that it came in response to a direct attack or that the attacker gained a UNSC authorization. The transcript shows Bush actively plotting to sidestep the UNSC if he could not, gangster-like, threaten its members into compliance.

Maybe Juan forgot United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 which had been passed 5 months before this meeting took place? Bush already had the needed resolution by the time this meeting took place.

But giving Cole the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he meant to type, "The transcript shows that Bush consciously intended to go to war without a [second] United Nations Security Council resolution."

Even if that's what he meant Cole is completely out to lunch. Of course Bush thought that... A month before this meeting, on February 1, 2003, President Bush said, "Should the United Nations decide to pass a second resolution, it would be welcomed if it is yet another signal that we're intent upon disarming Saddam Hussein. But 1441 gives us the authority to move without any second resolution."

And at the risk of smacking Cole with reality, it was pretty clear Bush was going to go into Iraq without a second resolution because we did! (it was in all the papers ;-)

If this is news to Cole, he needs to read a bit more; like maybe his own blog where it was discussed at the time.


Cole's second smokeless gun:

The second grounds for impeachment is that Bush rejected out of hand a deal brokered by the Egyptians whereby Saddam Hussein would leave the country with a billion dollars and some documents about his WMD program.

STOP. We just caught Cole in a lie. Saddam didn't want to take "some documents" he wanted to abscond with ALL the information on his Weapons of Mass Destruction. (Which BTW the left says he didn't have.) You don't need to know much more than 9th grade Spanish to do the translations yourself:

Parece que ha indicado que estaría dispuesto a exiliarse si le dejaran llevarse 1.000 millones de dólares y toda la información que quisiera sobre armas de destrucción masiva.

The bolded part says "and ALL the information" of course. (link in case you missed 9th grade Spanish)

But forgetting that, Cole wants to argue that NOT letting Saddam get away with all his information about WMD is an impeachable offense. The whole point was to disarm Saddam... not give him a billion dollars and instructions on how to make more WMD.

Cole sums up his case, "Going to war unnecessarily is an impeachable offense."

Heh- To the left, every war is unnecessary...

Sadly, that's all he has.... no more than two water pistols in his "rack of smoking guns" and a bunch of name calling. About what you would expect from one of the left's leading intellectuals.

The sad thing here. is that the New York Times, bows to their own bias and sucks it up like a pig in slop. Of course that's not too surprising, it is the Times we're talking about.



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elmo:

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But wait!Didn't Co... (Below threshold)
hermie:

But wait!

Didn't Cole remember that Saddam had NO WMDS? I mean, that's the mantra of the Soros MoveOn/Code Pink/DNC crowd. That there were no WMDs and the UN weapons inspectors had found nothing to prove that Saddam had a WMD program.

Get with it Juan! If you don't keep up with the old Dem talking points, you'll never get that Secretary of State appointment from Hillary.

I gotta take issue with thi... (Below threshold)
Veeshir:

I gotta take issue with this
Juan Cole, The Dumbest Ph.D. in History

There's some pretty stiff competition for that title.
He obviously isn't that stupid. I mean, to be wrong so much and to misrepresent stuff so much, you have to know what you're doing.

He just figured out that you could make more money by being a full-of-crap lefty than by being an academic. And you get all the props that used to be reserved for Noam Chomsky (who I think would win (Lose?) the dumbest PHD contest).

IMO this document or tape ... (Below threshold)
Buckeye:

IMO this document or tape just proves Saddam had WMDs. They had been moved by the time we got there. Leave it to the media to shape the facts to fit their bias.

Hey, Barney is convinced.</... (Below threshold)
SPQR:

Hey, Barney is convinced.

That alone should be evidence enough that Cole is a clown.

I just love it. I countera... (Below threshold)
kim:

I just love it. I counterattacked Barney's cite of Juan Cole by calling him a loon, with only the slightest idea what he was talking about and without reading the link. Sure enough, I was right. I've formed my opinion of geopolitics from a wide variety of sources, but have studiously, rigourously, avoided Juan Cole. What ever standing he has a scholar, he undermines with ideology. It's almost a slam-dunk to read him for what's not the truth, but truly the spin.
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elmo murmurs dhimmitude to ... (Below threshold)
kim:

elmo murmurs dhimmitude to the assembled flock.
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I'm not downloading that mp... (Below threshold)
89:

I'm not downloading that mp3 unless I get to tickle/tase elmo.

While I don't think these r... (Below threshold)
mantis:

While I don't think these revelations point to any impeachable offenses necessarily, you still get a few things wrong.

Bush already had the needed resolution by the time this meeting took place.

Despite what the President says, the Security Council maintains the authority to determine how its resolutions will be enforced. 1441 did not authorize the United States, or any members of the council, to engage in military action without at the very least a second meeting of the council.

he wanted to abscond with ALL the information on his Weapons of Mass Destruction. (Which BTW the left says he never had)

Never? Really? Who says he never had WMD?

To the left, every war is unnecessary...

Except the ones that aren't, like say, Afghanistan.

Despite what the Preside... (Below threshold)
John Irving:

Despite what the President says, the Security Council maintains the authority to determine how its resolutions will be enforced. 1441 did not authorize the United States, or any members of the council, to engage in military action

It didn't prevent them, either. And it did promise serious consequences for failure to comply. Saddam failed to comply, and suffered serious consequences.

And the U.N. Security Counsel has failed to issue any kind of formal censure to the Coalition, let alone the U.S.

Sure, they can't, not with the U.S. having a veto on the UNSC, but that's the way the UN works, now, isn't it?

Ta da, all clear and legal.

He would have been perfect ... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

He would have been perfect at Duke U! Number 89 of the stupid professoriat.

>Never? Really? Who says he... (Below threshold)
Paul:

>Never? Really? Who says he never had WMD?

mantis, you're not even trying.

¡Oh mi, qué bullshit!... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

¡Oh mi, qué bullshit!

He's not dumb... he's a li... (Below threshold)

He's not dumb... he's a liar.

"he wanted to abscond wi... (Below threshold)

"he wanted to abscond with ALL the information on his Weapons of Mass Destruction. (Which BTW the left says he never had)" - Paul. Certainly, that was worded incorrectly. I would suggest that he meant "Which BTW the left says he "didn't have"".

"Never? Really? Who says he never had WMD?" - mantis. He was talking about documentation; not WMD.

The clear statement here is that if he indeed intended to abscond to Egypt (or any country that would take him) with a billion dollars and WMD documentation, it puts the lie to the contention that he surrendered such documents, which was one of the demands made by the IAEA. Everytime this was brought up, many on the left argued that the IAEA was in possession of the documents. As if copy machines and compact disks and removable hard-drives were non-existant. Saddam needed an ace up his sleeve. What better ace?

That brings us to a whole 'nother discussion of how he was curring favor with certain vetoing nations (particularly France thru OFF and his separated-at-birth-twin, Chirac, not to mention UN officials and officials in other nations) with an eye toward lifting sanctions so those documents could serve to revive his programs should he still be Iraq's President.

But this is about Juan Cole's idiocy, isn't?

The Clinton(D) administrati... (Below threshold)

The Clinton(D) administration, the UN, the UN's inspectors... all found lots of WMDs until they were tossed out of Iraq in 1998.

An adult might ask about the scientists behind the WMD programs. Where are they?

Answer? Syria and Iran.

So the programs still exist... they were just outsourced.

Remember... our liberation of Iraq exposed France, Russia and the UN for undermining the UN sanctions which is the true cause of the war.

Libya panicked and surrendered it's Nuclear-Chemical-Biological weapons programs for free and revealed they were a customer of the proliferation business run by AQKhan of Pakistan and further exposing North Korea as a nuclear proliferator.

History should remember that the USA, and Bush, postponed a nuclear arms race for many years by disarming, and exposing, so many WMD programs around the world.

WMD programs the Clinton(D) administration ignored, or in the case of the NorKs... actually subsidized and enabled.

mantis doesn't remember the... (Below threshold)

mantis doesn't remember the left on Afghanistan, evidently. MoveOn and the rest were against it, claiming our soldiers would be coming home in "tens of thousands of body bags" because Afghanistan was "where empires go to die." Remember now? Then, about three weeks in, the "quagmire" talk began, but was suddenly scuttled when Kabul fell unexpectedly (to the left and media).

They just folded up their jargon and transferred it to opposing the Iraq invasion instead. But let's not the selective memory of the left fool us there, either: remember WHY they argued our troops would return in "tens of thousands of body bags" from Iraq? Because Saddam would use his WMDs on them.

The left always hates trips down Memory Lane . . .

>I would suggest that he me... (Below threshold)
Paul:

>I would suggest that he meant "Which BTW the left says he "didn't have"".

yeah it was a parenthetical, but still a reword was in order I guess. thanks

I hate to piss in Jim A's C... (Below threshold)
89:

I hate to piss in Jim A's Champagne, but it's easy to find some moron on a political "side" who believed in those things - the trick is to find individuals who did those same about-faces.
You're right of course, but not about everybody on the left - just about the media hivemind version of it.

So Juan is afflicted with "... (Below threshold)

So Juan is afflicted with "Rather Syndrome" since he is relying on FRAUDULENT documents to prove a non-existent story!

WHATEVER a fraudulent documents says is irrelevant and even a lefty loon should know THAT! Whatever the translation - it doesn't MATTER. It's all a fraud in the first place.

My goodness, these people are un-freaking-believable: Saddam came out of his gopher hole STILL claiming he was President of Iraq - he never intended to go ANYWHERE.

mantis doesn't remember ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

mantis doesn't remember the left on Afghanistan, evidently. MoveOn and the rest were against it, claiming our soldiers would be coming home in "tens of thousands of body bags" because Afghanistan was "where empires go to die."

Bullshit, MoveOn did not oppose the invasion and overthrow of the Taliban. But it won't matter to you, as the definition of "the left" is so conveniently nebulous. It doesn't really matter if there were millions of protesters in the streets and at least some opposition in the Congress (as with Iraq), or if there were a couple of Ward Churchill/Chomsky-esque yahoos opposing an invasion that had full support from the Democrats in Congress (not to mention everybody else in world), either way "the left" opposed it.

Good, let's use that logic. I oppose abortion. Now you can say the left opposes abortion! FTW!

Dumbass.

>Bullshit, MoveOn did not o... (Below threshold)
Paul:

>Bullshit, MoveOn did not oppose the invasion and overthrow of the Taliban.

It's not so easy to say mantis...

Moveone did have a petition on line that sounded and like a duck, moved like a duck and even quacked just like a duck....

They took it down after the right started beating them on the head with it and they said it was a "personal petition" and not an "official" petition.

Frankly, both sides have a point but (in my book) the side that disappeared the petition down the memory hole declared themselves the loser. YMMV

and there where plenty of l... (Below threshold)
Paul:

and there where plenty of lefties saying exactly what he says they where ie Afghanistan and the quagmire.

and there where plenty o... (Below threshold)
mantis:

and there where plenty of lefties saying exactly what he says they where ie Afghanistan and the quagmire.

Plenty of isolationist righties said the same things. Does that mean "the right" opposed the invasion of Afghanistan?

Juan Cole, The Dumbest Ph.D... (Below threshold)
marc:

Juan Cole, The Dumbest Ph.D. in History?

Well, I suppose, for now.

He can carry that "honor" until Gore receives his honorary doctorate.

Does that mean "the righ... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

Does that mean "the right" opposed the invasion of Afghanistan?

No, it means a cetain small segment of the Pat- Buchananist-Right opposed the invasion. A small minority of the Right who are not leading the party. Unlike the Sheehan/Soros/MoveOn segment of the Left, who are leading the Lefties specifically and the Dems generally.

Hey, Afghanistan is hot, ag... (Below threshold)
kim:

Hey, Afghanistan is hot, again. Look at the American Thinker for an article about the Taliban and al-Qaeda, largely Uzbek, having a falling out on the order of the Anbar Awakening. Let's talk about Tora Bora, updated.
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Unlike the Sheehan/Soros... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Unlike the Sheehan/Soros/MoveOn segment of the Left, who are leading the Lefties specifically and the Dems generally.

Did you notice at the last debate the leading candidates all said they wouldn't promise to be out of Iraq by 2013? Wow, they sure are beholden to Sheehan and MoveOn, aren't they?

Mantis, I did note that Mr.... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Mantis, I did note that Mr. Edwards thinks all black men will soon be in jail, or dead.

I had a hard time getting past that one to whatever other bullshit they were spreading.

Why do you suppose that big... (Below threshold)
kim:

Why do you suppose that big sea change there, mantis? And what ho Richardson on the matter?
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Wow, they sure are behol... (Below threshold)

Wow, they sure are beholden to Sheehan and MoveOn, aren't they?

I would only argue with thense of your verb, Mantis. They were until Abar, Betrayus and in the indisputable messages arriving in their home offices that their constituents opposed surrender.

that should read the ten... (Below threshold)

that should read the tense

Just FYI, the last Democrat... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Just FYI, the last Democratic debate shows that they have no shame or conscience

MitchellFor a trial ... (Below threshold)

Mitchell
For a trial lawyer, Edwards feet find his mouth more often than my fat fingers find the wrong keys.

Hugh, The dem pres... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Hugh,
The dem presidential candidates either didn't vote or voted NO on a resolution condemning MoveOn attack on the commander of our forces in Iraq. They dared not publicly renounce MoveOn (and the real boss George Soro). Columbia fiasco also shows that the left that we are at war and Ahm is a bad guy, but the left we rather America lose while George Bush is the president. That 's why American thinker pointed out that they have no shame nor conscience.

I know, HughS. I started o... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

I know, HughS. I started out in trial work and migrated to transactional stuff. You have to be real careful what you say in a trial.

However, when you have no guiding principles, or a playbook like in the trial setting, and you are an unserious person, as Johnny is, then you will have bouts of mouth diarrhea for us all to enjoy like this.

He must really hate being a trial lawyer if he's so determined to make a fool of himself in the political arena.

MitchellI knew you p... (Below threshold)

Mitchell
I knew you practiced....your exchange with the famous "second year law school" expert is bookmarked...hilarious!

I hated being a trial lawye... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

I hated being a trial lawyer, but I wasn't dumb enough to think I could make it in politics instead.

Plus, I was on the defense side. We didn't take a large % of everything, so I have no multimillion dollar account with Fortress hedge fund to get me through.

Hey mantis, If y... (Below threshold)
Baxter Greene:

Hey mantis,

If you and your friends on the left support the Afghan war and are not over there fighting it,does that make you
and your liberal friends CHICKENHAWKS?

Hey mantis, read about the ... (Below threshold)
kim:

Hey mantis, read about the Intelligence Squared debate in NYC on March 14th. Google 'Lindzen Schmidt debate'.
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In a run-up to war, which s... (Below threshold)
Robert:

In a run-up to war, which started in 9/01 until the war began in 3/03, the US didn't see Saddam move his WMDs.

There it is folks. This is how the Bush Administration set about protecting US citizens from saddam's WMDs, by taking their eye off the biggest threat to our country (one which could lead to a mushroom cloud over a US city--if that world-class liar, Condi Rice, was to be believed).
And to think, some people don't believe the Bush administration is incompetent.
Heckuva job, Georgie!

And Juan Cole is playing th... (Below threshold)
Robert:

And Juan Cole is playing the fool here.

Making believe the war with Iraq was about ousting saddam, when he knows it was about war profiteering from the start.
Does Cole really think KBR, Bechtel, Carlyle group, etc. were just going to let him avert war, and not pass the US Treasury into their hands?

I hate it when people who know better try to act naive.

Robert, I just have to than... (Below threshold)
John Irving:

Robert, I just have to thank you for increasing the value of my tinfoil stocks. Keep up the good (barking mad) work!

So John Irving comes here n... (Below threshold)
Robert:

So John Irving comes here not to refute the truth I speak (because he can't), but to insult me.

The dumbing down of America rolls on unabated.

Keep up the good work, John.
Maybe you can take over the valuable roll Rush provides confusing the rubes, when Rush goes into rehab.

Robert, I blame Plame. And... (Below threshold)
kim:

Robert, I blame Plame. And what big moneybags company was Joe Wilson working for?
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Read Matt Taibbi's piece in... (Below threshold)
Robert:

Read Matt Taibbi's piece in the September 6th Rolling Stone.
If that doesn't outrage you, just make believe Al Gore was associated with Halliburton. That should do the trick.

Al Gore is associated with ... (Below threshold)
kim:

Al Gore is associated with something a lot more sinister than Halliburton.
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"Al Gore is associated with... (Below threshold)
Robert:

"Al Gore is associated with something a lot more sinister than Halliburton."

Yup. The United States of America.

Robert, the idea that the w... (Below threshold)

Robert, the idea that the war with Iraq was pursued because Kellogg Brown Root wanted it is just silly. And your comment about the Bush administration "run up" to war starting in 9/01 so they are to blame for losing track of WMD is just silly. The Iraqi's had spent a huge effort to frustrate the score or so of inspectors for years.

Did anyone ever wonder who ... (Below threshold)
EndlessEcho:

Did anyone ever wonder who would take over once Saddam had left with his billion dollars and WMD info? It's not like getting rid of Saddam would've gotten rid of his administration.

You ARE precious, Robert.<b... (Below threshold)
kim:

You ARE precious, Robert.
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Robin Roberts,Why ... (Below threshold)
Robert:

Robin Roberts,

Why is my claim about KBR "silly"?
Isn't the election of the President funded by corporations?
Don't those corporations expect something in return from those they help elect?
Wasn't this a war of choice started by the President?
Hasn't KBR made millions (perhaps billions) from the Iraq War?

Or, despite "yes" being the answer to every one of those questions, do you think it was just a lack of oversight that caused all those millions to be wasted in Iraq?

Why is it so "silly" to believe something that is so obviously true?

Also, are you really making excuses for those that took their eyes off a threat to this nation that was so strong we had to send thousands of U.S. soldiers to die for it?
I'm just guessing here, but I think you might be a Republican? You know, because they are the party of accountability and all. (LOL)


To kim,
Thanks. I figured you'd know there is no proof that Halliburton spies on its own citizens and tortures it's enemies.

Endless Echo,
The administration never thought about who would take over after Saddam left.
All they really cared about was helping their corporate buds steal billions of dollars in American citizen's hard-earned tax dollars. If that doesn't outrage you, make believe it was stolen by Reagan's "welfare queens". That should do the trick.

God bless America, but fu** the people who run it.

Just when I thought my bann... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Just when I thought my banning spree was over... comes "Robert."

Curious timing.

Your only options:1)... (Below threshold)
Robert:

Your only options:
1) Insult me and call me names
2) Ban me

What you can't do is refute the truth I write.
We both KNOW that.

Just because your leaders have fooled you, don't expect me to get in line to eat-up their lies.

You got nuthin' but delusio... (Below threshold)
kim:

You got nuthin' but delusions, Robert.
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Good one kim.Now g... (Below threshold)
Robert:

Good one kim.

Now go play in traffic while I continue to educate the others here.




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