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Harry Reid Steps In It

Harry Ried officially bit off more than he can chew. He went after Rush Limbaugh saying he insulted the troops with his "phony soldiers" comments. That was a tactical mistake.

Reid has a long and storied history of insulting our troops, their commanders and being a lapdog of the anti-war left. His claims of support now don't ring true compared to past words and deeds.

Reid said the surge had failed and our troops had lost in Iraq. He said that by the way, before the surge even started. Reid called General Petraeus a liar. Which was very interesting considering he refused to meet with Petraeus for briefings on Iraq.

Harry Reid (the slimebag) himself supported the Moveon.org "Betray Us" ad.

When the anti-war left tells Reid to jump he asks, "How high?".

Reid even tried to cut funding for the troops he now claims he supports.

He claimed he supported the Moveon.org ad because it was "Free Speech". Reid believes in free speech so much He wants bloggers to be required to register with the Federal Government.

Ried is a Grade A Left-Wing Moonbat.

With all the other good news coming out of Iraq this month (see below) Reid has to change the subject. So he introduced a bill condemning Limbaugh in the Senate. Big mistake. The movone.org ad backfired on Democrats and so will this. The problem is Rush's comments where not egregious in any way. In fact, two days before Rush made his comments, ABC News used the same language and the same context to report on the Department of Justice crackdown called Operation Stolen Valor. -- As many people on the right know, there is a growing problem of "Phony Heroes." (Surprise! The Left has no idea what is important to our military!)

Adding to the Democrat's problem, the GOP has offered a resolution is support of Limbaugh, something nobody on the left could do with the moveon.org ad.

Mediamorons.org, the lefty freaks who started this are already hurting for the smackdown they got from Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews earlier this week from that phony controversy. They are now getting attention they don't want. And they are bringing Reid down with them.

Limbaugh, ever the showman and considerably smarter than the Democrats in the Senate, has issued an apology to the troops On behalf of Media Morons.org and Defeatist Democrats everywhere.

The last reason this will backfire for the Democrats, is now million of people will learn about anti-war poster child Jesse Macbeth and the embarrassment he was for the Democrats.

Two weeks from now Harry Reid and the Democrats in the Senate will be wishing this whole thing never happened and Rush's only regret is that it didn't happen during sweeps week.


For comparison, here is the ABC report 2 days BEFORE Rush's comments.

And Rush's comments

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They are stupid, aren't the... (Below threshold)
mantis:

They are stupid, aren't they?

Wow. I thought nothing coul... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Wow. I thought nothing could be more desperate than this frantic, repetitive post. Until I read the Congressional resolution supporting Limbaugh.

Somebody resurrect our F... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

Somebody resurrect our Founding Fathers so that they can make quick work of this despicable POS. I demand a mental evaluation for this imbecile and the rest of his ilk. Democrats are beyond insane , they are like 8 years driving a school bus. What the hell needs to be done before they crash the bush and kill everyone on board?

Brian, you being ironic or ... (Below threshold)
Steve of Norway:

Brian, you being ironic or something or can't admit the donkeys are full of crap when it comes to this.

Senator Harkin had to add h... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Senator Harkin had to add his two cents worth. That's a shame since most had forgotten he's one of the 'phony' soldiers that lied like a worthless dog about his combat tour in Vietnam. He had '0' combat experience in Vietnam or any place else. He was a ferry pilot and sounds like he's still a fairy. Puts him right up there with Hanoi John Kerry's lies. Take the sucker down along with Dirty Harry Reid, who has no combat experience, no military service and no brains.

Oh, I certainly admit the D... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Oh, I certainly admit the Dems do some stupid things. And you folks make sure they take their lumps for it. But when someone on the right says something stupid, you just can't admit it, and have to go dragging up every Harry Reid statement you can find to draw attention away. And then to have the actual US Congress, with all of the issues of the day, spend time on a resolution defending one of the most divisive personalities on the air? As I said, desperate.

Plus, guess what? None of this shit matters anyway. It's a fantasy if you think "millions of people will learn" about Jesse Macbeth, or that anyone will care about this in two weeks, much less regret it.

First Teddy on water boardi... (Below threshold)
David:

First Teddy on water boarding then Tommy on fake soldiers. You can't make this up.

Brian, How is it desperate ... (Below threshold)
Dave W:

Brian, How is it desperate or frantic? Reid offered a resolution to condemn a radio host for something the radio host never said. McCarthyism at it's best if you ask me.

How about a few words that you need to add to your vocabulary. I have a feeling your vocabulary is full already:

Truth
Facts
Context
Win
Victory
Jesse MacBeth

Maybe you should get out a little more Brian.

Maybe you should ask your Democrat congress people why they voted unanimously to pass the Stolen Valor Act of 2005 if they insist that what Rush ACTUALLY said was wrong?

http://www.homeofheroes.com/herobill/

In my eyes, condemning Jesse MacBeth, Scott Thomas Beauchamp and others just like them is a no-brainer. Maybe you side with people who come out with lies about the military and their service should be punished to the full extent of the law.

Maybe you don't agree with any of that. Maybe you do. Either way i have a feeling that if this were anyone else being smeared and taken out of context you would take issue with it. Just because it is Rush Limbaugh doesn't make it right to take him out of context and tell numerous lies in order to win an election in 2008.

Brian,Many people ha... (Below threshold)
Dave W:

Brian,
Many people have learned about the "Jesse MacBeth's of the world".

It's called the Stolen Valor Act of 2005 of which was signed unanimously.

http://www.homeofheroes.com/herobill/

Look it up you ignorant tool

Nothing more desperate th... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

Nothing more desperate than rat faced lying democrats. Stupid democrats disgrace this nation.

Who is frantic Brian?

Troop hating Harry and his desperation to resuscitate a democrat lie and smear against rush who kicks the shit out of you bed wetting losers.

The Rats have no chance in 08 and they know it. that is why they must do what they always do get elected lie , cheat and steal.

I have been speaking to many Hispanic voters informing them of the facts and exposing the democrat criminal frauds for what they are and the following post proves that the word is getting around.

Democratas piensan que tienen a todos los hispanos con ellos cuando la realidad es que uno como hispano les dice que si somos democratas pero a la hora de votar votamos con integridad por los republicanos y no a las mentiras que todo los dias dicen los democratas.
11:06 AM

Read it and weep Brian you punk.

This may be news to the lef... (Below threshold)
Proud Kaffir:

This may be news to the left but, Limbaugh never called anti-war soldiers "phoney soldiers". If anyone can point to a transcipt to that effect, I will wear a "I heart Hillay" t-shirt for a week.

Limbaugh called phoney soldiers "phoney soldiers" and noted how the left seems to embrace these people who embelish their war experiences (i.e lie) to disparage the troops. Jesse McBeth is the most obvious example.

In fact, can the Left point... (Below threshold)
Proud kaffir:

In fact, can the Left point to one anti-war soldier that has been called a "phoney soldier" by the Right. Several soldiers penend an anti-war Op-ed piece in the NY Times recently but no one called them "phoney soldiers". In fact, after two were killed in combat, several conservative commentators praised them for doing their duty even while they questioned the tactics.

Not surprising, the truth is actually the exact opposite of what the liberals present.

Many people have learned... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Many people have learned about the "Jesse MacBeth's of the world". It's called the Stolen Valor Act of 2005 of which was signed unanimously.

Stop 10 people on the street and ask them if they've heard of it.

That's if you can even re... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

That's if you can even read or even write more than one language. Your democrat propaganda schooling couldn't give a rats ass if you are even proficient in one language so I'll understand. Maybe someone would be so kind as to take the time and translate for you.

Who is frantic Brian?</i... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Who is frantic Brian?

That would be Paul. Can't you read, Rob?

The revolution of rising Je... (Below threshold)
kim:

The revolution of rising Jesse MacBeths.
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"Stop 10 people on the st... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

"Stop 10 people on the street and ask them if they've heard of it"

75% of those questioned who voted in 2006 didn't know who the hell Bugeyed Nancy Pelosi was.

Stop and ask 10 people if they ever heard the words

"I did not have sex with that woman, Lewinsky"

How does it feel to be the ass of the this post?

It would be sad were it not... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

It would be sad were it not par for the course.

At least there's a hope that they'll be a lot more exposed this time around (what with talk radio and the internet and all).

The good thing is that no one on the left is smart enough to try and think of anything better than lies and smears.

What gets me is that no one... (Below threshold)

What gets me is that no one seems to have a problem with Congress issuing official statements condemning speech.

Harry Reid is free to say whatever stupid thing pops into his head - or is put there by his keepers at MoveOn. He's a corrupt moron and should be exposed as such.

But Congressing passing resolutions condemning speech (even though they have nor force of law) is chilling.

Paul,I'm just SOOO... (Below threshold)
jaymaster:

Paul,

I'm just SOOO glad you're back!

Brian:Stop 10 ... (Below threshold)
marc:

Brian:

Stop 10 people on the street and ask them if they've heard of it.

The original assertion was a million people would hear about MacBeth as a result "Bend in the Wind" Reid's political stunt.

In a country of 300 million what are the odds? 1 in 300?

And you narrow it down to 10 on the street.

Do the math.

And Paul, your title begs the question, how does Reid step in something he wallows in?

Wow, I'd forgotten about "H... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

Wow, I'd forgotten about "Hero Harkin" and his extensive combat experience. Thanks for the reminder. Another turd from my generation we just can't seem to flush.

Yep....it is Reid...... (Below threshold)
nogo war:

Yep....
it is Reid...
Just wondering...
Before Reid....
Thank goodness that the Republican party did not cut taxes in a time of WAR...than God Republicans, when they were in power voted to promote a war production industry like we did in WWII.

Why....60 years after America responded to a call of production and sacrifice...we are incapable of either??/

Maybe you all believe that at the very least we can pay higher taxes to fund this war...maybe you all believe..that the blood and sacrifice of of troops...is a small price to pay,,,,after all.....you all support the carnage...you just don;t want to pay higher taxes to support it....

<a href="http://www.whoserv... (Below threshold)

http://www.whoserved.com/viewprofile.asp?nav=sn&id=20

As suspected, only liberals may use the chickenhawk argument.

"Harry Reid is free to say ... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

"Harry Reid is free to say whatever stupid thing pops into his head - or is put there by his keepers at MoveOn. He's a corrupt moron and should be exposed as such.

But Congressing passing resolutions condemning speech (even though they have nor force of law) is chilling."

Say hello to the criminal democrat party of perpetual fraud. If it was such a serious threat to our Country it would be hilarious to watch these performing clowns in all their delusions of grandeur.

NogoLower tax rates ... (Below threshold)

Nogo
Lower tax rates have funded this war.

Harry Reid has proven again... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Harry Reid has proven again that the current Dem party has no shame or conscience. Media Matters is simply a shameless propaganda outlet run by the Clintons and their boss, George Soros. Looks like liberals really the Soros and Clinton 's culture of corruption and shameless propaganda.

Hey nogo, shut up stupid.... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

Hey nogo, shut up stupid. You sound like a sniveling baby.

We don't need to pay higher taxes for criminal democrat ponzi schemes to win elections. Idiot.

So what do you think about this asshole Reid , his lies and his words that are killing our troops.

But when someone o... (Below threshold)
Paul:
But when someone on the right says something stupid, you just can't admit it, and have to go dragging up every Harry Reid statement you can find to draw attention away.

Brain, you're full of crap and owe me an apology.

I did not "try to draw attention away" from what Rush said. I linked his site like 4 times THEN I tossed in a YouTube link of his comments.

You're full of shit.

Ya know....if you al... (Below threshold)
nogo war:

Ya know....
if you all think you are paying too high a tax..
don;t pay it...
C.mon...if you think higher taxes are Bullshit..than don't pay them..
I will respect those that refuse to pay BS taxes...

For those that pay? How feeble your claims appear...
Remember....President Bush has made your taxes and medical payments lower.....

"Brain, you're full of crap... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

"Brain, you're full of crap and owe me an apology."

"You're full of shit."

Oh come on now Paul , ease up the poor bastard.
He can't help it , he's a democrat LOL

He's beholden. They got his FBI files.

Looks like Nogo is trying t... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Looks like Nogo is trying to distract from the liberal sew*age typified by Harry Reid again. Hillary boasted that she helped found Media Matters. No wonder they are shamelessly making things up. And our typical trolls are happily contributing to this shameless propaganda.

I did not "try to draw a... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I did not "try to draw attention away" from what Rush said. I linked his site like 4 times

Umm, that would be twice, one of which was his comments, and the other was an attack on the left. Compare to eight anti-Reid links, not to mention your anti-Reid commentary.

If you want to defend Rush, go right ahead. But you should do it by defending what he said, not by trying to divert attention to Reid.

Uh, Brian? Reid "diverted" ... (Below threshold)
brainy435:

Uh, Brian? Reid "diverted" the attention to himself.

Public speeches tend to do that....

In a country of 300 mill... (Below threshold)
Brian:

In a country of 300 million what are the odds? 1 in 300? And you narrow it down to 10 on the street.

Fine, stop 300 people on the street. Same result. Political junkies know of Jesse Macbeth. Normal people don't.

Hey dummy , President Bus... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

Hey dummy , President Bush is not Running. If he was I'd still vote for him over any of your pseudo American Commiecrats.

And by the way thanks for proving my point. "Criminal Party" Hey everybody Nogo is trying to incite people to commit a crime. 85 percenters speaking loud and clear. They got your FBI files too , bummer for you.

Plus, guess what? ... (Below threshold)
Plus, guess what? None of this shit matters anyway. It's a fantasy if you think "millions of people will learn" about Jesse Macbeth, or that anyone will care about this in two weeks, much less regret it.
6. Posted by Brian | October 1, 2007 7:04 PM

As a matter of fact, millions will here about this for weeks and months to come. The Brians Jesse Macbeths of this nation are being exposed daily for there hate of the military.

And, thanks to sites like Wizbang, no Brian, this will not go away like you would wish it to be. O'rielly and Limbaugh have declared war on fornicating fabricators of the left who cowardlessly propagate vicious lies to promote an agenda that scum like Media Matters and Movement.Org (Hillary's lapdogs) that denegrate what was once and honored party.

But keep up the good work, these morons stay in power may not last longer than a Met's seven game lead.

Political junkies know of J... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Political junkies know of Jesse Macbeth. Normal people don't.
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And the shameless propagandist(s) who know about Jesse Macbeth and the vile Media Matters/MoveOn.org will continue to support the liberal dem sew*ge in any case.

As a matter of fact, mil... (Below threshold)
Brian:

As a matter of fact, millions will here about this for weeks and months to come.

Come back here in two weeks and link to a major news source that is still talking about it.

Thank goodness tha... (Below threshold)
Thank goodness that the Republican party did not cut taxes in a time of WAR...than God Republicans, when they were in power voted to promote a war production industry like we did in WWII.

Cutting tax rates raised tax revenue, helping to pay for the war. Thanks for playing.

Come back here in two... (Below threshold)

Come back here in two weeks and link to a major news source that is still talking about it.

Nice try at framing your mistake....no thanks.

What Reid has done is provide audio/video for most of the 2008 Republican commercials.

Come back here in ... (Below threshold)
Come back here in two weeks and link to a major news source that is still talking about it.

And when I do Brian, how do you take your crow?
(we got some big ones up here in the northwest)

Just asking....who i... (Below threshold)
nogo war:

Just asking....
who is your hero in the Senate?
Can anyone here be explicit as to what Republican Senator best expresses your view?

As I make feeble moonbat claims....
Can any of you....just kinda pretend
What Senator or House guy/gal....
are a "slam dunk" based on their support of our WAR President?

,,,of course...
It will be a Republican landslide..
.....the surge is working....and we remain a nation so afraid of another attack.....
If only a strong leader can assuage my primal

fears....


Reid has given the Reps an ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Reid has given the Reps an excuse to bring up all his past statements. They should bring up a resolution to condemn Murtha 's clear slander of the troops soon to CYA.

It is amusing how proud Bri... (Below threshold)
SPQR:

It is amusing how proud Brian is of both his own, and other Democrats', lying.

Rob...cast)... (Below threshold)
nogo war:

Rob...
cast)


"Hey nogo, shut up stupid. You sound like a sniveling baby."
Yep....that s almost what my dad said when I enlisted in 1969.....
What did your dad say when you enlisted?

My dad was against my enlistment...because he spent 3 years as a marine in the Pacific...

But ya know.....
Those of you that have been in combat..we do not have to justify our emotions...
...those of you you have not....
....we could care less...

Can anyone here be... (Below threshold)
Can anyone here be explicit as to what Republican Senator best expresses your view?

There would be a much larger list to pick from if I chose what Democratic Senator DID NOT express my views. Explicit enough for your meantality Nogo?

Rush will be talking about ... (Below threshold)
civildisobedience Author Profile Page:

Rush will be talking about it for the next year. The millions who listen to him will remember, and tell their families. If it is useful, Republican candidates will use it along with some other bad actions done by liberals to frame Democrats in as bad a light as possible.

So, millions will remember, and hopefully vote for the least worse candidate, probably a Republican. And I say this as someone who does not listen to Rush, but I do check out his www site from time to time for amusement.

Brian, you're still full of... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Brian, you're still full of shit. OK so I ****only**** linked him directly twice. I linked other people who talked about his comments as well. AND I embedded the YouTube link.

You're full of shit when you say I am trying to distract people from what he said. I freaking posted it.

You owe me an apology.

And besides Brian, I don't have to defend Rush.. YOU TELL ME what he said that was wrong.

You can't. -- Well not and be intellectually honest.

Yep Rovin...that is ... (Below threshold)
nogo war:

Yep Rovin...
that is ok...after all...
if you selected a Senator that expressed your views....then ....that would require you to link yourself to that Republican Senator....
I understand....why you would not want to do that...

"As a matter of fa... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

"As a matter of fact, millions will here about this for weeks and months to come.

Come back here in two weeks and link to a major news source that is still talking about it."

Like Mark Foley?
Thanks for proving what we already know. The MSM is party of the democrat party of perpetual fraud. That is all you are proving here today.

You also prove with your sm... (Below threshold)
kim:

You also prove with your smugness what a shithead you are.
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Paul....outside of his fail... (Below threshold)
nogo war:

Paul....outside of his failure to fight the communists in Viet Nam,,,,I respect Rush's opinion on Iraq vets...who oppose Bush...

Just wondering....is there a person on radio or TV
who has severed in our military....that you folks respect?
.....or...do you respect thoe who never served...to help you determine what what
brave troops feel about Iraq?

"bad actions done by liber... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

"bad actions done by liberals to frame Democrats in as bad a light as possible."

Here we go again. Democrats need no help in that department , it comes natural for criminals to commit crime and liars to lie. Keep up the good work Nogo , brian , CD it must be worth every penny Soros is wasting on ya.

Hey nogo why don't you an... (Below threshold)
RobLACal:

Hey nogo why don't you answer the questions posed to you, political terrorist coward. Get your own blog democrat. You can pull your shameless democrat tactic of diversion, distort and distract all you want.

You can't help Harry, he does the breast stroke in sewage. He is officially "CLINTONIZED".

C'mon Paul, no need to send... (Below threshold)
epador:

C'mon Paul, no need to send letters to Brian. His attempts to be a Socratic interrogator are better left ignored (it's fun to watch him build up the intellectual equivalent of a froth around the corners of his keyboard).

if you selected a ... (Below threshold)
if you selected a Senator that expressed your views....then ....that would require you to link yourself to that Republican Senator....

Ok Nogo, I'll bite.......Joseph McCarthy was one of my favorite Senators, not because he went overboard, but because he had the ability to silence the hollywood left liberals for more than a decade. The fact that they were irrelevant when it came to a political agenda that was sypathetic to communist/socialist views was such a blessing. But it appears they are back thinking that it is the governments responsiblity to provide our every need, and so is much of the democratic party.

Let me ask you this Nogo.... is there a senator that speaks for you or can you speak for yourself?

"He blasted the popular ... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

"He blasted the popular talk show host for attacking the "courage and character of those fighting and dying for him and for all of us.""

Wow, at first the Belligerent Caulking Gun sounds almost patriotic. Out of context and on his own "The War is Lost" terms, of course.

For someone who claims this... (Below threshold)

For someone who claims this "doesn't matter" to anyone, look how many posts Brian has made trying to make that same lame point.

Sure seems to matter to HIM, doesn't it?

Hey nogone we know you "ser... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Hey nogone we know you "served". So enough of the "I did", "You didn't" crap. It gets old after awhile.

Rush is a liar Paul, plain ... (Below threshold)
Hank:

Rush is a liar Paul, plain and simple. Your Link, is of him lying.

Any sane person can see it. Lets look at what happned:

Limbaugh had just finished arguing with a caller from Chicago who said he was an anti-war Republican who served in the military. Limbaugh said that was impossible -- Republicans aren't genuine unless they support Bush's Iraq policy. As for the caller's claim about military service, Limbaugh said, "Right. Right. Right, I know. And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon!" Limbaugh's argument wasn't subtle -- the caller couldn't have worn the uniform because he supports withdrawal.

The VERY NEXT caller also identified himself as currently serving in the military, and criticized those who disagree with Bush's policy.


The caller and Rush proceeded to agree how the left 's arguments make no sense to them before the following exchange:

CALLER 2: No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.

LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.

CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they're willing to sacrifice for their country.

LIMBAUGH: They joined to be in Iraq. They joined --

CALLER 2: A lot of them -- the new kids, yeah.

LIMBAUGH: Well, you know where you're going these days, the last four years, if you signed up. The odds are you're going there or Afghanistan or somewhere.

Look at the context of the calls. After basically saying one soldier can't be a soldier, because he supports withdrawl, Rush engages a second caller who says Real soldiers want to be in Iraq.

That sort of implies if you disagree with the the current policy you are not a real soldier. Rush agrees saying basicaly come on if you join you know where you are going.

Meaning Rush is lumping ALL Soldiers who critsize the current policy, who don't want to be in iraq as phony soldiers.

Hell, Rush doesn't even bring up jessie macbeth 'till like a minute and a half after the second exchange.

Rush smeared the troops, got in trouble and is trying to lie his way out of it. Since you will always support the right NO MATTER WHAT you are helping.

Congrats Hank, you can cut ... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Congrats Hank, you can cut selected quotes off Mediamorons website and take Rush out of context.

Yippee for you.

BTW Hank, here is the trans... (Below threshold)
Paul:

BTW Hank, here is the transcript that proves that YOU are the liar.

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.

RUSH: You bet.

CALLER: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am serving in the American military, in the Army. I've been serving for 14 years, very proudly.

RUSH: Thank you, sir.

CALLER: I'm one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I'm proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, what these people don't understand, is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is not possible because of all the stuff that's over there, it would take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse and we'd have to go right back over there within a year or so.

RUSH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. The next guy that calls here I'm going to ask them, "What is the imperative of pulling out? What's in it for the United States to pull out?" I don't think they have an answer for that other than, "When's he going to bring the troops home? Keep the troops safe," whatever.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: It's not possible intellectually to follow these people.

CALLER: No, it's not. And what's really funny is they never talk to real soldiers. They pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and spout to the media.

RUSH: The phony soldiers.

CALLER: Phony soldiers. If you talk to any real soldier and they're proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they're willing to sacrifice for the country.

RUSH: They joined to be in Iraq.

CALLER: A lot of people.

RUSH: You know where you're going these days, the last four years, if you sign up. The odds are you're going there or Afghanistan, or somewhere.

[Note at this point you can skip to end of call -ed]

CALLER: Exactly, sir. My other comment, my original comment, was a retort to Jill about the fact we didn't find any weapons of mass destruction. Actually, we have found weapons of mass destruction in chemical agents that terrorists have been using against us for a while now. I've done two tours in Iraq, I just got back in June, and there are many instances of insurgents not knowing what they're using in their IEDs. They're using mustard artillery rounds, VX artillery rounds in their IEDs. Because they didn't know what they were using, they didn't do it right, and so it didn't really hurt anybody. But those munitions are over there. It's a huge desert. If they bury it somewhere, we're never going to find it.

RUSH: Well, that's a moot point for me right now.

CALLER: Right.
RUSH: The weapons of mass destruction. We gotta get beyond that. We're there. We all know they were there, and Mahmoud even admitted it in one of his speeches here talking about Saddam using the poison mustard gas or whatever it is on his own people. But that's moot. What's more important is all this is taking place now in the midst of the surge working, and all of these anti-war Democrats are getting even more hell-bent on pulling out of there, which means that success on the part of you and your colleagues over there is a great threat to them. It's frustrating and maddening, and why they must be kept in the minority. I want to thank you, Mike, for calling. I appreciate it very much.

[Note, end of call]

Here is a Morning Update that we did recently, talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. They have their celebrities and one of them was Army Ranger Jesse Macbeth. Now, he was a "corporal." I say in quotes. Twenty-three years old. What made Jesse Macbeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn't his Purple Heart; it wasn't his being affiliated with post-traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. No. What made Jesse Macbeth, Army Ranger, a hero to the left was his courage, in their view, off the battlefield, without regard to consequences. He told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq, American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, even children. In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, Army Ranger Jesse Macbeth describes the horrors this way: "We would burn their bodies. We would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque."

Now, recently, Jesse Macbeth, poster boy for the anti-war left, had his day in court. And you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs claim and his Army discharge record. He was in the Army. Jesse Macbeth was in the Army, folks, briefly. Forty-four days before he washed out of boot camp. Jesse Macbeth isn't an Army Ranger, never was. He isn't a corporal, never was. He never won the Purple Heart, and he was never in combat to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen. You probably haven't even heard about this. And, if you have, you haven't heard much about it. This doesn't fit the narrative and the template in the Drive-By Media and the Democrat Party as to who is a genuine war hero. Don't look for any retractions, by the way. Not from the anti-war left, the anti-military Drive-By Media, or the Arabic websites that spread Jesse Macbeth's lies about our troops, because the truth for the left is fiction that serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities because they can't find any that fit the template of the way they see the US military. In other words, for the American anti-war left, the greatest inconvenience they face is the truth.
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It's clear Hank to anyone with a brain -admittedly that might leave you out- that he was referring to the fake soldiers that claim to speak with authority in military matters when they are bogus.

You're either a fool for believing mediamorons or you're a liar.

Brian and Hank nailed to th... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Brian and Hank nailed to the wall. Good way to end the evening.

Sweeeeeet!

Jesse Macbeth is just one o... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Jesse Macbeth is just one of a hundred or so traitors running around pretending to be hero's. Didn't one recently write an article (for his wife in the media) about all the horrors he had saw in Iraq, that is before he arrived in Iraq. If I find a democrat that isn't a liar I may have a stroke. What did the only Black on the SCOTUS say? Todays progressives (democrats) are as bad or worse than the old time southern racist (democrats). By the way Harkin did claim a combat record (when bragging to his friends and snow jobbing other democrats) when he didn't have a minute in combat. The last nine months of democrat leadership has been a comedy and will continue to be the longest running comedy in congressional history, unless the terrorist do us a favor and destroy the place while it's in session. Far be it for me to interfere if they decide to take them out. What have they accomplished in nine months, they gave two criminal aliens a minimum wage hike. Everyone else was already making far above the current minimum. Other than that, '0' accomplishments for the democrat led congress.

How is limbaugh a liar? i l... (Below threshold)
Dave W:

How is limbaugh a liar? i listened to the show that day as well as read over the transcripts after the fact. The context make it plain as day that he was talking about jesse mcbeth. He also did a morning update on mcbeth a couple days prior as well as cbs doing a story on it.

Context and facts. look the definitions up in a dictionary idiot.

Renids me of a funny joke i... (Below threshold)
Spurwing Plover:

Renids me of a funny joke i read. A DEMACRAT IS TRAVELING THROUGH A INDIAN RESERVATION HE STOPS AND GIVES A SPEECH. IF ELECTED I WLL RESTORE YOU LANDS TO YOU,GALLAGOOM,GALLAGOOM SAY THE INDIANS. AND IF ELECTED I WILL BRING BACK YOUR RIGHTS. GALLAGOOM SAY THE INDIANS AFTER HE IS DONE THE CHIEF SAYS. AS A TOKEN OF OUR APPREATION WE WANT TO PRESENT YOU WILL THIS FINE WAR PONY.AS THE DEMACRAT COME TO EXCEPT THE GIFT THE CHEIF SAYS, BECARFUL DONT STEP IN THE GALLAGOOM

Another thing...Get over th... (Below threshold)
Dave W:

Another thing...Get over this ridiculous chicken hawk argument. I don't know why limbaugh didn't serve, but if memory serves me correctly it was a medical condition. I don't think he was the only person ever not allowed because of a medical condition.

Just because someone didn't serve in the military doesn't mean you can't respect them and fight for them on a daily basis. Limbaugh routinely sticks up for the people fighting for our freedoms and anyone who listens to his show knows that.

You libs just think you can burn limbaugh on this but you can't.

You have to give the left p... (Below threshold)

You have to give the left points for persistence. On this one thread, we have them reacting to being caught in a lie by saying the story doesn't matter (Brian), trying to change the subject (nogo), and sticking by the lie (Hank).

Heck, they only lack a shortstop of making a full infield of tactics. Yet they all shrink from the truth like Dracula from sunlight.

Not to strong in the brains... (Below threshold)
Hank:

Not to strong in the brains dept. are you there Paul?

"BTW Hank, here is the transcript that proves that YOU are the liar."

Still waiting for you to prove anyhting that I have said is factually untrue... still waiting... anything...?


So uhm, to the unaddressed portion of my post, the point where I used logic based on evidence to demonstrate to any rational person (of which we now know to exclude Paul) that rush was clearly smearing veterans of war who disagree with current policy in iraq.

Call number one that immedietly preceded the phony soldiers comment.

CALLER 1: See, I -- I've used to be military, OK? And I am a Republican.

LIMBAUGH: Yeah. Yeah.

CALLER 1: And I do live [inaudible] but --

LIMBAUGH: Right. Right. Right, I know.

CALLER 1: -- you know, really -- I want you to be saying how long it's gonna take.

LIMBAUGH: And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon!

CALLER 1: How long do we have to stay there?

LIMBAUGH: You're not listening to what I say. You can't possibly be a Republican. I'm answering every question. That's not what you want to hear, so it's not even penetrating your little wall of armor you've got built up.


Now this demonstrates to any sane person, (again Paul don't count yourself in this category) That rush does not beleive the caller was millitary and if you look at the context of the call it was because he was not in favor of current Iraq policy.

In the next call where he makes the phony soldier comment the caller says that real soldiers in essance support the war. Rush agrees with this. Implying that you are not a real soldier if you don't (this is logic Paul don't worry if you don't get it you are not expected to)

So there we go. Rush certainly thinks Jesse is is a phony, but it is clear he is including anyone who disagrees with the president they are all jesse's in Rush's eyes.

Keep on shilling for the Republicans Paul. We know reality means nothing to you.

Brian said: "After claiming... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Brian said: "After claiming you did four times. Is it hard for you to count from two to four, or were you just full of shit?"

When I had said: "I linked his site like 4 times "

LIKE for 4 times. I dropped probably a dozen and a half links, I didn't count them all.

You're a dishonest idiot. And for that, now you're banned from my posts.

Buh Bye

Hank, I know the concept is... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Hank, I know the concept is above you, but Limbaugh doubted the veracity of THAT CALLER.

In other words, Limbaugh could smell a piece of shit bullshit artist like you.

It's been a long time since I've done talk radio but there is a word for that type caller... a shill caller... One who claims they are Republican (or Democrat) when clearly they are not. You hear them everyday on CSPAN.

I forget the industry slang now but it is a well known ploy of callers. Limbaugh was calling out the previous caller as being full of shit. Like you.

BTW You point would be much more believable if you cut your transcript from the original and not the altered mediamorons one. It really gives you away.

And Hank, you'll never admi... (Below threshold)
Paul:

And Hank, you'll never admit you are a lying sack of shit, but here is the proof:

From the real transcript

CALLER: Are we ever going to take care of it, though? How long do you think we're going to have to be there to take care of it?

RUSH: Mike, you can't possibly be a Republican.

CALLER: I am.

RUSH: You can't be Republican.

CALLER: Oh, I am definitely Republican.

RUSH: You sound just like a Democrat.

CALLER: No, but seriously, Rush, how long do we have to stay there?

RUSH: As long as it takes.

CALLER: How long?

RUSH: As long as it takes. It is very serious. This is the United States of America at war with Islamofascists. Just like your job, you do everything you have to do, whatever it takes to get it done, if you take it seriously.

CALLER: So then you say we need to stay there forever?

RUSH: No, Bill -- (Laughing) or Mike. I'm sorry. I'm confusing you with the guy from Texas.

CALLER: I used to be military, okay, and I am a Republican.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: And I do listen to you, but --

RUSH: Right, I know. And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon.

CALLER: How long do we have to stay there?

RUSH: You're not listening to what I say. You can't possibly be a Republican. I'm answering every question; it's not what you want to hear, and so it's not even penetrating your little wall of armor you've got built up. I said we stay to get the job done, as long as it takes. I didn't say forever. Nothing takes forever. That's not possible, Bill. Mike. Whatever. Nobody lives forever, no situation lasts forever, everything ends. We determine how do we want it to end, in our favor or in our defeat? With people like you in charge, who want to put a timeline on everything -- do you ever get anything done in your life? Or do you say, "Well, I wanted to have this done by now, and it's not, so screw it"? You don't live your life that way. Well, hell, you might, I don't know. But the limitations that you want to impose here are senseless, and they, frankly, portray no evidence that you are a Republican.

Then you say:

"Now this demonstrates to any sane person, (again Paul don't count yourself in this category) That rush does not beleive [sic] the caller was millitary [sic]...

Rush never doubted he was military, he doubted he was Republican.

You godforsaken stupid dumbass illiterate moron.

Now hank scurries away to m... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Now hank scurries away to mediamorons.org to see what happened to his talking point, only to find he got played for the useless idiot he truly is.

Using fake soldiers for ant... (Below threshold)
The Listkeeper:

Using fake soldiers for anti-war purposes has been a tradition of the left since the Winter Soldier debacle.
HOW DARE YOU question this practice!

You know these poor sad lef... (Below threshold)
kim:

You know these poor sad leftists might have a point if this were not a volunteer military. In desperation, they are reading the Vietnam playbook, certain that if they get the words right, or hold their mouths or their postures just so, then they can convince us to withdraw and cave in as we did in Vietnam. These Kos Dancers evoke the Ghost Dancers of our past.
=====

I forget the industry sl... (Below threshold)
alacrityfitzhugh:

I forget the industry slang now
I believe they call them "seminar" callers. The "seminar" teaching them to claim that they are Republicans or conservatives, but when Bush did _____, that was just the last straw! Now I'm voting for Hillary or some such.

nogo...quit...rambling...<b... (Below threshold)

nogo...quit...rambling...
with...incomplete...sentences...
and...disjointed...thoughts

I simply can't read that crap anymore. I tried.

jesus hank, you are quite t... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

jesus hank, you are quite the idiot. By the way, did anyone here actually HEAR that phone call live? Cause I did, and I wasn't even listening to what they were talking about because I couldn't get past trying to understand a word that was coming out of the caller's mouth, he sounded mentally challenged at best.

close...nog... (Below threshold)
Paul:

close...


nogo...rambling...quit...
incomplete...sentences...with...
thoughts...and...disjointed...

-fixed that for ya-

P

(addressing deleted comment... (Below threshold)
Paul:

(addressing deleted comments)

Brian, you can spin it any way you want....

You accused me of trying to distract people from what Rush said when I had actually linked his site multiple times AND put up the YouTube video of it.

I have since clipped the transcript multiple times.

YOU LIED about my intentions and you have refused to apologize.

Period.

Buh Bye.


YOU LIED about my intent... (Below threshold)
Brian:

YOU LIED about my intentions and you have refused to apologize.

I can't lie about your intentions, since I don't know them. Only you can lie about your intentions. I can only comment on your actions, and they were to change the subject from Rush to Reid. It's impossible for me to lie about this, since it's right there for everyone to read. Was it your intention to do this, or was your brain just on "attack Reid" autopilot? I dunno. If the only response you can come up with is to take it personally, go apoplectic, call me names, and delete my posts, that's your call.

Bad memory Brian, or lying ... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Bad memory Brian, or lying again?

Your opening salvo:

...and have to go dragging up every Harry Reid statement you can find to draw attention away.

Now you say:

I can't lie about your intentions, since I don't know them.

You VERY CLEARLY said that it was my intention to draw people's attention away from what Rush said.

Now you lie to pretend you didn't. Now you owe me two apologies. -- 3 one more for insulting my intelligence.

Speaking of phony soldiers.... (Below threshold)
alacrityfitzhugh:

Speaking of phony soldiers...Given five months in the Graybar Hotel for making false statements to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, even with time off for "good behavior", Jesse MacBeth will spend more time in prison than he did in the military!

Good Bye Hank, You've pr... (Below threshold)
Hank:

Good Bye Hank, You've proven yourself to be a hopeless lying hack. And that bores me.

You're free to believe what you want but don't try to spread your B.S. here, it ain't gonna happen. - Paul

So I'm not banned, it seems... (Below threshold)
Brian:

So I'm not banned, it seems.

no, you are banned from my comments, buh bye -Paul

We're fighting over words s... (Below threshold)
Ditto Head:

We're fighting over words said by an entertainer. Think about it, folks. Rush does not make public policy, does not sway people over to his line of thinking, he is just there to entertain. Republicans listen to him because he fires them up, Democrats listen to him because he pisses them off. Ratings, folks, pure and simple.

Whether his statement was taken out of context, or this is just a case of back-peddling, Rush wins either way. Look at the buzz generated, and look at the spike in listeners he got out of it.

The fact that all of you are having a "I'm smarter than you" slug fest back and forth over three well placed words in a conversation just keeps that buzz going. For all we know, this was a carefully managed market strategy. And if it was, that's pure genius!

For all we know, this wa... (Below threshold)
alacrityfitzhugh:

For all we know, this was a carefully managed market strategy. Riiiiiiiiight! Rush defends himself against a smear from OnlyHillary'sMediaMatters and it's clever marketing??? Hardly!

Man, I go away for a few da... (Below threshold)
89:

Man, I go away for a few days and you have an influx of people who downrate all your posts (including the short note to friend - dead giveaway that this is a Zerg-rush an not considered opinions), and Rush even manages to have John Sheridan moment. Wow.

Even before this assinine s... (Below threshold)
Kenny:

Even before this assinine spouting of Harkins and Reid, I wouldn't trust the Democrats as far as I could spit. In my opinion they just proved themselves out to be the jerks they are.

Confirmation bias. There ar... (Below threshold)
89:

Confirmation bias. There are good Democrats, even good Democrats who aren't DINOs.




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