Wearing a flag pin has been almost a prerequisite for politicians. While not wearing one in and of itself is not a shocking offense, Barack Obama's reasoning for why he decided not to is a little bit strange:
An eagle-eyed reporter for the ABC affiliate in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, noticed something missing from Democratic presidential contender Sen. Barack Obama's, D-Ill., lapels."You don't have the American flag pin on. Is that a fashion statement?" the reporter asked, at the end of a brief interview with Obama on Wednesday. "Those have been on politicians since Sept. 12, 2001."
The standard political reply to that question might well have been, "My patriotism speaks for itself."
But Obama didn't say that.
Instead the Illinois senator answered the question at length, explaining that he no longer wears such a pin, at least in part, because of the Iraq War.
"You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin," Obama said. "Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest.
"Instead," he said, "I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism."
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"I'm less concerned with what you're wearing on your lapel than what's in your heart," Obama said Thursday while campaigning in Independence, Iowa.
"You show your patriotism by how you treat your fellow Americans, especially those who serve. And you show your patriotism by being true to your values and ideals. And that's what we have to lead with, our values and ideals," Obama said.
Of course, if he had said that in the first place, he might have avoided any controversy.
What's the best way to protest the war in Iraq? Why, stop wearing a flag pin, of course! That'll show those warmonger, bloodthirsty, anything-for-oil Republicans!!!
And Obama wonders why he has the reputation of a junior senator with no experience and no common sense. Instances like this (and this and this and this) prove that time and time again, he just doesn't know when to shut up.
Hat Tip: Gateway Pundit
Comments (106)
Mr. Barak Hussein Obama is ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Joe | October 5, 2007 2:15 PM | Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Mr. Barak Hussein Obama is an empty suit and a apostate muslim.
He doesn't have a chance.
1. Posted by Joe | October 5, 2007 2:15 PM |
Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 14:15
2. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 2:33 PM | Score: -17 (17 votes cast)
Said Sean Hannity: "Why do we wear pins? Because our country is under attack!"
Guess what? Hannity wasn't wearing a pin on last night's show!
2. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 2:33 PM |
Score: -17 (17 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 14:33
3. Posted by crazy | October 5, 2007 2:40 PM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
If a flag pin on your lapel projects the wrong image, Senator Obama better take a look at his logo, website, campaign backdrops, etc. There's an awful lot of flag imagery there for a fellow that doesn't want to be associated with those phony flag-waving patriots...
3. Posted by crazy | October 5, 2007 2:40 PM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 14:40
4. Posted by jp2 | October 5, 2007 2:46 PM | Score: -9 (11 votes cast)
I think Obama needs to watch this on repeat. How unpatriotic.
http://www.americawestandasone.com/awsao.swf
On a related note, last week I noticed that Clinton's lapel was 1.5 to 2 times bigger than Romney's. What kind of values does Romney have besides hating America?
4. Posted by jp2 | October 5, 2007 2:46 PM |
Score: -9 (11 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 14:46
5. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 2:49 PM | Score: -17 (17 votes cast)
Tom Brokaw had it right:
Brokaw argued that if you wear a flag pin, "it's a suggestion somehow that you're endorsing what the administration is doing"
5. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 2:49 PM |
Score: -17 (17 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 14:49
6. Posted by mantis | October 5, 2007 2:53 PM | Score: -15 (15 votes cast)
Another outrageous thought flag crime. When will it stop?
6. Posted by mantis | October 5, 2007 2:53 PM |
Score: -15 (15 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 14:53
7. Posted by DaveD | October 5, 2007 2:56 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
If I were running for president I'd probably wear a flag pin. Obama's not wearing one per se is not an important issue in my mind. However, I would entertain the notion that one of Obama's handlers may have pointed this out so on cue the reporter "notices" and asks the question about the lack of a flag. If in fact, it IS important for Mr. Barack and he thinks wearing a flag became a substitute for people speaking out on issues important to national security then I would say, hello????, where have YOU been. Why don't you sit out 2008 and try again for the presidency in 2012.
7. Posted by DaveD | October 5, 2007 2:56 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 14:56
8. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 2:57 PM | Score: -15 (17 votes cast)
ORGANIZER: Uh...o.k., you're checked in. Here's your AIDS ribbon.
KRAMER: Uh, no thanks.
ORGANIZER: You don't want to wear an AIDS ribbon?
KRAMER: No.
ORGANIZER: But you have to wear an AIDS ribbon.
KRAMER: I have to?
ORGANIZER: Yes.
KRAMER: See, that's why I don't want to.
ORGANIZER: But everyone wears the ribbon. You must wear the ribbon!
KRAMER: You know what you are? You're a ribbon bully.
ORGANIZER: Hey you! Come back here! Come back here and put this on!
8. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 2:57 PM |
Score: -15 (17 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 14:57
9. Posted by Heralder | October 5, 2007 2:57 PM | Score: 17 (17 votes cast)
Barney:
Partisan bullshit.
Let's put it this way: Are all the fans of the Atlanta Falcons wearing the team colors endorsing Michael Vick's dogfighting?
Anyone that wants to be president of this country shouldn't have an aversion to wearing a pin with our flag on it. It's not the Bush administration's flag, remember that.
9. Posted by Heralder | October 5, 2007 2:57 PM |
Score: 17 (17 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 14:57
10. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 3:02 PM | Score: -17 (17 votes cast)
16 "When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show men they are fasting. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
17 But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, 18 so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
I guess the conservative rightwing, knee-jerk critics have forgotten the words of Jesus!
10. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 3:02 PM |
Score: -17 (17 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 15:02
11. Posted by Jim Addison | October 5, 2007 3:06 PM | Score: 12 (12 votes cast)
Let's face it: Obama wants to appeal to the sizable constituency in the Democratic Party who use the flag for toilet paper.
"Empty suit" is about right. Whoever told this moron he was qualified to be President must have been suckled on the same Chinese toy imports as Barney (to this day, his favorite flavor is "paint").
11. Posted by Jim Addison | October 5, 2007 3:06 PM |
Score: 12 (12 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 15:06
12. Posted by Oyster | October 5, 2007 3:24 PM | Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
What's lost on Barney is the long and convoluted answer to a stupid question. What Barney does seem to have gleaned from all this is "Phony Christians!"
*rolling eyes*
So what if he's not wearing a pin. It was a stupid question, which makes it sound like a planted question. He just botched it. This seems to be a recurring theme with the Democrats.
12. Posted by Oyster | October 5, 2007 3:24 PM |
Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 15:24
13. Posted by DaveD | October 5, 2007 3:49 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Barney, I think you over-interpret scripture. Alternatively, I believe it is in Matthew that Jesus warns about practicing piety in order to be seen by other men. Obama's omission of the lapel pin is an attention getter - a personal statement, a way to set himself apart. I suggest again that his reasoning that not wearing a lapel pin is a response to the lack of dialogue on issues of national security is clearly a fallacious one. Issues of national security have been under very intense debate since 9/11.
13. Posted by DaveD | October 5, 2007 3:49 PM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 15:49
14. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 3:50 PM | Score: -14 (14 votes cast)
Bush wears the pin and he let OBL off the hook (twice) and got us involved in a quagmire in Iraq. I wont even get into the spying, torture and lying stuff.
I think Obama is right on target.
It is funny how you never see Rush wearing the pin.
14. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 3:50 PM |
Score: -14 (14 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 15:50
15. Posted by Heralder | October 5, 2007 3:57 PM | Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Barney,
Good job on ignoring my post. Then again, your brain appears to about a year and a half behind.
You manage to use 'quagmire' despite evidence to the contrary as well as using the word 'stuff' to explain how evil Bush apparently is.
At least try to give us a challenge.
15. Posted by Heralder | October 5, 2007 3:57 PM |
Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 15:57
16. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 3:58 PM | Score: -14 (14 votes cast)
Said Sean Hannity: "Why do we wear pins? Because our country is under attack!"
O-My God Mitt is not wearing a flag pin!!
http://www.mittromney.com/img/Photo_Gallery/2.1.07_NH/20070201_mount_cube1_LRG.jpg
16. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 3:58 PM |
Score: -14 (14 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 15:58
17. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 4:02 PM | Score: -14 (14 votes cast)
Said Sean Hannity: "Why do we wear pins? Because our country is under attack!"
O-My God Sean is not wearing a flag pin on his portrait on his book cover!
http://www.celebratelove.com/gifs/hannity.jpg
Or here:
http://www.s9.com/images/portraits/12823_Hannity-Sean.jpg
Or here (posing with stripper or hooker?):
http://www.hatehannity.com/media/1/20070313-hannitybunny.jpg
17. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 4:02 PM |
Score: -14 (14 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:02
18. Posted by Michael | October 5, 2007 4:05 PM | Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
BarneyMoron is on a roll...grade school must be out.
18. Posted by Michael | October 5, 2007 4:05 PM |
Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:05
19. Posted by Peter F. | October 5, 2007 4:07 PM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
The standard political reply to that question might well have been, "My patriotism speaks for itself."
Agreed, and we could've lived with that. But noooooo....
Instead B.O. had to have an "Open Mouth, Insert Pin" moment.
What a dunderhead.
19. Posted by Peter F. | October 5, 2007 4:07 PM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:07
20. Posted by COgirl | October 5, 2007 4:10 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Yep, real commander-in-chief material there.
20. Posted by COgirl | October 5, 2007 4:10 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:10
21. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | October 5, 2007 4:15 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Our commie propagandist has moved on to other hate groups, besides Hillary lying hate group Media Matters.
40% of democrats either think or not sure that American victory is better for the world.
Since the dem is a party of liars now and their supporters have to lie to justify their support, we shouldn't be surprised to see this (it is beyond parody).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2184177,00.html
Bill Clinton: Hillary wants me to restore image of US
21. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | October 5, 2007 4:15 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:15
22. Posted by marc | October 5, 2007 4:18 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
bahdad barney:
I guess the conservative rightwing, knee-jerk critics have forgotten the words of Jesus!
Sum bitch! Just when I'm fresh out of troll food.
Not to mention pinless.
22. Posted by marc | October 5, 2007 4:18 PM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:18
23. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 4:18 PM | Score: -14 (14 votes cast)
No school today or Monday. Lucky you!
Maybe you can get Jim Broussard (labeled as a patriot by FOX News) to pin that American flag he stole and disrespected to Obama's chest?
23. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 4:18 PM |
Score: -14 (14 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:18
24. Posted by Heralder | October 5, 2007 4:22 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
I hear ya Barney, burning it is a little more your style.
24. Posted by Heralder | October 5, 2007 4:22 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:22
25. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | October 5, 2007 4:32 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
I hear ya Barney, burning it is a little more your style.
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Yup, if Obama burns the American flag, he may get 40% of the Democratic votes.
But I guess Clinton had a record of kissing up to American enemies and acting tough on American women/children (eg. Waco and Broadrick etc...). Not sure what Obama can do to exceed this record and to close the 33% gap.
25. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | October 5, 2007 4:32 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:32
26. Posted by rick kennerly | October 5, 2007 4:32 PM | Score: -7 (7 votes cast)
yeah, yeah, yeah. pot metal pins and magnetic ribbons trump serious thought all the time around here.
It hurts to see the conservative movement reduced to such natty tatters on it's way out.
26. Posted by rick kennerly | October 5, 2007 4:32 PM |
Score: -7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:32
27. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | October 5, 2007 4:33 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
It hurts to see the conservative movement reduced to such natty tatters on it's way out.
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And that 's why the liberals are so proud of the party of liars that they are willing to make Hillary the front runner.
27. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | October 5, 2007 4:33 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:33
28. Posted by DaveD | October 5, 2007 4:36 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Barney, please understand how much you are missing the point here. Citing others who are not wearing a flag pin is irrelevant. Look on the web at pictures from the Democratic debate. You will notice most of the candidates are not wearing a pin. It is no big deal. What is a big deal is one of Obama's handlers prompting a reporter to ask the question to Obama and, in return, getting some trite response. Get it???? The failed pomposity of it all?????
28. Posted by DaveD | October 5, 2007 4:36 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:36
29. Posted by Heralder | October 5, 2007 4:37 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
No, it hurts that your candidates have a problem with wearing the flag of the country of which they wish to be president.
Well that and all the creeping socialism. Good luck!
29. Posted by Heralder | October 5, 2007 4:37 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:37
30. Posted by P. Bunyan | October 5, 2007 4:39 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Obama stopped wearing the pin because he knows that his supporters think patriotism is really just mindless jingoism and that's so passé in Hollywood these days.
30. Posted by P. Bunyan | October 5, 2007 4:39 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:39
31. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | October 5, 2007 4:40 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Barney, please understand how much you are missing the point here.
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Barney is simply a propagandist for the party of liars. We should not expect him to see the difference. Noone is making a big deal of someone wearing or not wearing the pin. Obama is the one who made a big deal of his decision not to wear a flag pin. It seems that he is trying to close the 33% gap with the defeatist left. Maybe he should burn the flag now to catch up with Hillary. But the Clinton had a well known record that liberals seem to love. Not sure what Obama can do further.
31. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | October 5, 2007 4:40 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 16:40
32. Posted by JFO | October 5, 2007 5:02 PM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
I see the chickenhawks are out in force today waiving their hankies as if about to faint with a "spell" and cluck cluck clucking about symbols. You have nothing of substance to offer so keep on clucking about those symbols.
32. Posted by JFO | October 5, 2007 5:02 PM |
Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 17:02
33. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 5:18 PM | Score: -8 (8 votes cast)
"Barney, please understand how much you are missing the point here. "
I do no not think that I am. I have posted scripture, Brokaw and Hannity. All are relevant to he topic. The Hannity quote came from the ABC article, and I want to know why "self proclaimed" patriots like Hannity is so often photographed (such as on is book about "true Americans") is not wearing the flag pin when he is criticizing Obama for not wearing the pin?
Too many of our politicians use the flag as a shameful prop. There was a republican congressman that was running for office in my district (can't remember his name) that passed out (4th of July parade) garbage bags printed with the American flag. Luckily he lost.
33. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 5, 2007 5:18 PM |
Score: -8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 17:18
34. Posted by WildWillie | October 5, 2007 5:24 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
I don't care that he doesn't wear one. I do care about what he immediately said when asked why he didn't. That is telling. ww
34. Posted by WildWillie | October 5, 2007 5:24 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 17:24
35. Posted by JFO | October 5, 2007 5:30 PM | Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
It is telling isn't it? Thank god there are people here willing to stand up to this failed president and his failed policies.
35. Posted by JFO | October 5, 2007 5:30 PM |
Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 17:30
36. Posted by Peter F. | October 5, 2007 5:47 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
It is telling isn't it? Thank god there are people here willing to stand up to this failed president and his failed policies.
By not wearing a pin he's standing up? On your best days, you're clinically retarded. And today's not looking like one of those days. Tomorrow not looking good, either.
36. Posted by Peter F. | October 5, 2007 5:47 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 17:47
37. Posted by marc | October 5, 2007 5:50 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
JFO:
It is telling isn't it? Thank god there are people here willing to stand up to this failed president and his failed policies.
So... are you staking out your claim as one of the 19 percenters?
Oh... and BTW:
"Wearing a flag pin, flying the flag, pledging allegiance to the flag, talking about the values that are important to America, teaching your children about what a great nation you have, standing up for those values, speaking out ... there's just so many ways that one can demonstrate patriotism," Clinton said at a Chicago fundraiser.
37. Posted by marc | October 5, 2007 5:50 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 5, 2007 17:50
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