I wrote an article on climate change and conflict a while back. Click on my link for that article.

The Bible clearly warns of a future of starvation and extreme heat here on Earth in the Four Horsemen. Certainly this dire future of climate change will kill a significant percentage of mankind, maybe far more than all wars have. The Bible has always been right before in matters of prophecy predicting 1948 rise of a new state of Israel and the role of Iran(Persia) in becoming the main nation that will lead to WWIII.

Is there any good reason to doubt the Biblical warnings about serious climate change that will take place because of inability of mankind to act as good stewards of God's Earth?

it's a little too late to do anything substancive about global warming. the population bomb is exploding before your eyes and we twiddle our thumbs.

Paul, the post is about how the Nobel "prize" is worthless and you give a diatribe of climate change as a sign of the end times. I knew yesterday was an aberration when I agreed with you.

JT, spot on. They are worthless. Michelle Malkin said it best when she said "just when you thought Algores head couldn't get any bigger." ww

And, if it's not too late, let's toss in Che Guevara into the mix.

JT... you forgot Cindy Sheehag. Certainly on a list of disingenuous fools, twits and appeasement monkeys she should get a Dishonorable Mention.

WW:

Paul, the post is about how the Nobel "prize" is worthless and you give a diatribe of climate change as a sign of the end times. I knew yesterday was an aberration when I agreed with you.

Hooson seems to be having his "thought train" leeping off it's track today.

Give the poor guy a break!

haha, great posting. i agree with u.

http://sophiesworld-sophiesworld.blogspot.com/2007/10/ignoble-winner.html

woof woof

Paul H.
Do you really want to engage a discussion on the apocalypse, its writings and theology?

Bwahahahahaha

What a crock. Apart from the "worthless UN" now the Nobel Committee is worthless.

Could it be that the way you see the world just hasppens to be at odds with what 90% of the rest of the world sees?

Your problem is simply that your Republican Party has produced a Pantheon of "heroes" like Nixon, forced to resign because he was a crook & two current leaders, Bush & Cheney who deserve to be in the dock at The Hague, on trial for war crimes.

Wildwillie and Marc, even the biggest possible bomb that mankind could build can only kill a limited number of humans compared to a massive shift in the environment.

50,000 children die each day in the world from starvation, often because environmental conditions have changed so much in just the last 50 years because rain has stopped in some parts of the world, rivers have dried up, first the fish died, then the cattle, then the people, and farmers cannot find the remaining water to grow any crops in some areas such as parts of Mozambique due to climate shifts.

When the food supply gets tight here in the U.S., then it will finally hit home that something serious and likely manmade is shifting the environment.

Shouldn't the Nobel Prize reward persons who limit the number of deaths of fellow humans.

Man, when decisions like this get publicly announced I realize I would have given almost anything to be a fly on the wall of the conference room where the discussion that led to this decision was taking place. I am sure the transcript would make a great basis for a comedy of great parody and farce.

You forgot Wangari Maathai and her implication that AIDS was a bioengineering experiment created by western scientists and purposefully unleashed in Africa.

You can always start your own Peace Prize, and give it to more deserving honorees such as Ann Coulter or whomever you please. Just an idea.

We're cooling, folks.
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Hooson:

rivers have dried up, first the fish died, then the cattle, then the people,

You tried this crap line in the other related thread so I'll repeat my query here as well.

So you're saying the people were so dumb they looked around saw no fish, no cattle, no food of any kind, then and only then they just gave up and failed to use their FEET to walk the hell out of there. They just laid down in a pile of climate induced DUST and died.

Is that it Hooson? Is that why they died?

How about this... "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, but give a man a cheap-assed chinese scooter and he can drive himself out of the desolation he's surrounded with."

Hooson:

Shouldn't the Nobel Prize reward persons who limit the number of deaths of fellow humans.

Considering the prize is named after the Nobel who developed a smokeless gunpowder called Ballistite one could argue it should be awarded to the person or country that killed the most people during the year.

In which case it should go to the gov of Sudan.

I remember dry riverbeds, starving children in the sixties. I also read in the bible that there has been many, many famines. Lots of starvation. You are bending the facts to fit your political opinion. It is the lowest of the low. Just like all those organization on t.v. that show starving children to collect money but use most of it for "administrative" costs. If there is a famine in a country, why would people still have sex and make babies. Seems like there are stupid people out there. ww

WildWillie, FEED THE CHILDREN only spends about 5% of it's budget for "administrative costs" according to reputable charity accounting reports, and that's because it has to buy the time on TV to air their program. By comparison the excellent Salvation Army organization spends close to 30% on Administrative costs because it offers salaries to many poor persons such as bell ringers to help them out financially and give them work. It is only some TV evangelists who spend about 80% on "administrative costs" when they run a charity drive.

You forgot HUGO!!!!

Al Gore won the Peace Prize?

I guess this means Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will just have to wait until next year.

Frankly I don't know what's worse, Al Gore in the same boat with Yassir Arafat, or Al Gore in the same boat with a real scientist and peace activist like Andrei Sakharov. Both men tarnish Gore tremendously, albeit in opposite ways.

This is a great day for America and the planet.

At least Al can say he won something now out from under Clinton. A win based on pity and to shove the global warming bit a little farther down our throats. He is a tool. The U.N. getting them gives me the same feeling as when congress votes themselves a raise.

Al Gore did a lot for peace.

He poisoned our politics, by his lack of grace and oversized ego by refusing to concede in 2000. Thus, we can thank him for the netroots. Without them, we wouldn't have Peace Mom Sheahen.

So he did something for peace. BJ Clinton did more for a piece, though.

Question, in all seriousness, who do you think should have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize this year? The stated criteria are "the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity among nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

Since most of the sarcastic and facetious nominations seem to have already been made here, I'm asking for serious input.

Who do the readers/writers of whizbang think is most deserving of the award and what have they done to meet the standards that Nobel set forth in establishing the prize?

King George bested by Al Gore. Now that's got to hurt.

This is bound to cause a more concerted march into Iran.

George will have to prove something to someone that he can do better.

"children's do learn"

What I want to know is why do all these silly libs think that winning
a Nobel Peace Prize would at all enhance Gorebot's presidential chances...as if the average American voter gives hoot about it.

"This is a great day for America and the planet."

Why? Because good intentions, not actual solutions, coupled with ridiculous lies about normal climate temperature fluctuations somehow have "saved" our planet?

Tell you what B2K. You have just won the Blogical Feelgood Prize. Now it's an even better day for America and the planet. Rejoice!

Rance, I think you ask an excellent question and I am going to take some time (hopefully you would give me the same amount of time the Nobel Committee has) to come up with a nominee. However, you cannot possibly agree that Gore fits these criteria and therefore you should respect that he is, in fact, a bad choice. Also, if you consider the reminders of many (not all, but many) of the winners cited by others above you would see that the Committee cannot even follow the criteria you have quoted.

Best yet, Gore beat Rush for the prize.

I had considered this angle for my post about it, so it's cool you did it for me.

Should we say things are "cool" anymore? Perhaps to be trendy we should replace it with "warm." "Hey, what a warm post, Jay Tea! You really outdid yourself this time."

King George bested by Al Gore. Now that's got to hurt."

Really? Winning a Nobel Peace Prize is somehow besting someone? I guess you're right, though. Yassir Arafat did murder and orchestrated the murder of plenty of Israelis to earn his, so I guess you could say that.

In light of that, I value people more for not winning one.

"Best yet, Gore beat Rush for the prize."

LOL! Do you really believe that was a serious nomination, or that he was expected to "win"?

You're more comical than normal today.

Shouldn't the Nobel Prize reward persons who limit the number of deaths of fellow humans.

This is exactly right. Which is why Ronald Reagan should have won it (or shared it jointly with Margaret Thatcher) for helping to bring down the Soviet Union, one of the most murderous regimes in all of human history, and why George Bush should eventually receive it for being at the forefront in the fight against global Islamic terrorism, which threatens the entire world. That is, of course, if we lived in a sane world. Alas, we do not.

The fact that the Nobel committee would rather award it to the maker of an error-ridden propaganda film is proof that all the Nobel Peace Prize is nowadays is simply a form of advocacy for whatever item of left-wing mythology is currently being pushed as the cause du jour.

He also got a undeserved oscar for that same peice of junk science i mean these awards are no longer awarded for what they were origionaly attended for they are awared for how left-wing and fruadelent they are

What source are you using for Arafat's death by AIDS? Just curious.

I now consider the Noble Peace Prize the same as I consider a warm dog turd on the sole of my shoe...(scrapes poo from shoe...continue with life.)

Winning a Nobel prize today is not a big effing deal. The prestige is gone. Kinda like winning an Oscar or an Emmy. Leftists patting each other on the back while standing on the backs of the common man so they can steal their hard earned money to redistribute to "less fortunate".

Communists, one and all.

Joe McCarthy, now he should have won a Nobel Prize.

I forget where I saw this proposed, but the Peace Prize should have gone to the Burmese Buddhist Monks. Failing that, maybe to somebody in Lebanon or Ukraine. You know, people trying to free people.
As it stands it's just an award given to the person most likely to make conservatives angry. The Nobel Selection Committee are just a bunch of lame ass lefties impotently shaking their tiny fists at the adults on the planet.

And that makes me laugh. I would actually be unhappy if someone deserving won that award, it would demean them so much to be associated with Yassir Arafat, Saint Jimmeh and now, the Goracle.

The Nobel Peace Price means absolutely nothing anymore. With the likes of terrorist loving Jimmah Cahtuh winning it and now Al for junk science, it's really no more impressive than a Cracker Jack toy. Is it me or has Al grown a couple or three more chins?

markie (3rd comment)

ummmm... I'm pretty sure that the "population bomb" is not caused by TWIDDLING OUR THUMBS!

btw - if you think there is such a thing as an over-population problem, you really need to get out of your cloistered existence. But if you cannot open your mind to the possibility that the Earth is surely doooooomed! then perhaps you could lead by example and get sterilized.

What source are you using for Arafat's death by AIDS? Just curious.

The Nobel Prize has degenerated into a loonfest based on how far out into left feild one can venture with an idea but still be accepted by the lemmings as valid.

Its become a political award based on the leftist leanings of the recipient. That it was awarded to Owlgore, who's movie is a demonstrated work of fiction, shows the total lack of credibility it has degenerated to.

The Noballs piece prize is truly going to the Noballs politicians. Ya-sur-r-fat, Dimmy Carter, and now the bore Gore. The prize is a joke played on the population by semi-rich people with an inflated ego that matches Gore's fat a**. Has anyone with a brain taken these people serious in the past 25 years? The demorats keep providing a daily laugh, give them that.

So it's come to this, Wizbang vs the world.

Deserving of consideration: the Kurdish people of Iraq, for becoming the standard which the rest of Iraq is trying to meet.

Also: the people of Iraq, for trying to create a country while being a key focus of Islamic terrorists.

What a monumental joke! Gore wins a lib award from a buncha leftist egomaniacs and its some sort of accomplishment?

What an inconvenient goof.

You know, the Algorites have set themselves up for a win/win situation. On down the road a few years when weather statistics indicate a global cooling trend, they will be able to take the credit for turning around the warming trend. If things average out they will take credit for the status quo.

He did create a lot of peace and tranquillity among His investment buddies when He continues to bilk untold millions off of gullible fools with "documentaries" like the lie filled "an inconvenient truth."

So I guess He qualifys as a candidate.

He also created a lot of peace in southern Florida during the hangin chad debacle....

Wow, Ive changed My mind, congrats Mr. GORE

...why shouldn't Al Gore win the Nobel Peace Prize? After all, didn't he invent the award, right after the light bulb and before the internet? As long as he never gets elected President, he can win all the Oscar, Emmy, Grammy, Nobel, Tony, CrackerJack, Texas Lottery, Miss America, and National Spelling Bee Awards he wants to. I don't pay attention to them, and I don't pay attention to Albert either. I had a friend who won a Pulitzer Prize once. They mailed it to him. Postage due. Here's hoping Albert's comes to him the same way.

Al Gore, innovator in the practice of scorched earth election politics.

It interesting to note that when Nixon was presented with the opportunity to cast dispersions on his close loss to Kennedy, he resisted the temptation.

So at least that day, Nixon was a better man that Al Gore.

That's fantastic. Rance gives you whackjobs a chance to turn this into a meaningful discussion and all you can do is continue pissing on Gore. If anyone has a better suggestion (and there are better choices) we'd all love to hear it, but you don't. All you wizbang wingnuts have to offer is hate. I truly pity you sad pathetic people. It must suck to be you.

The pitiable and bleating and whining in this post, along w/ the pathetic attempts to insult, by an author and his crew of salivating Pavlov puppies is laughable to all save the misfit delusional inmates of Wizassylum.

Not since the demise of the "flat-earthers" and the "witch-dunkers," has there ever been such a collection of extremists, that for the good of mankind, should be lobotomized, lest they pose a danger to humanity.

Shame that Irena Sendler wasn't chosen from the list of nominees. That's who I would have chosen. The only people who have ever publcly acknowledged her work with any type of award were the Israelis and the Polish. I guess her work saving Jewish children from the Nazis was too long ago to contend with the current fads - or for other reasons I won't go into here.

Like Veeshir, one of the first that came to my mind as worthy, but not even mentioned, was the Burmese Monks.

"That's fantastic. Rance gives you whackjobs a chance to turn this into a meaningful discussion and all you can do is continue pissing on Gore."

And then you go on to offer exactly what?

"Not since the demise of the "flat-earthers" and the "witch-dunkers," has there ever been such a collection of extremists, that for the good of mankind, should be lobotomized, lest they pose a danger to humanity."

It's not surprising people like you would fantasize about using lobotomy to silence people, since it's so much easier to control lobotomized, mindless robots. How dare anybody disagree with you?

I am having a great time visiting all the rightie blogs. Just as with the Frost's the bloggers can't argue against the facts so they smear and attack.

True, Rance opened the door for discussion, but someone else managed to close it. Al Gore already has his reward with the money he made perpetuating his Globular heating scam.

This is to "rumors on the internet". You want to lobotomize people that don't agree with you, and you call us "extremists" and "hateful"? Tell me how that works. Just because I happen to believe that Al Gore is no more deserving of this award than I am, doesn't make me either an extremist deserving of brain-scrambling or hateful. I have never met Mr. Gore, but there is almost nothing that he and I would agree on. I don't wish him ill, I just happen to believe that his views are not ones that the country (or the world) could long abide. Like I said in my post above, Albert doesn't cross my mind at all, and him winning the award really won't amount to much, except that he will now charge more on the lecture circuit. Which isn't a problem for me, since I don't plan on hearing him speak.

BG2K:

If you believe in the Global Warming scam so much, why is Al Gore winning the Nobel Peace Prize a day of celebration? I'd think a true disciple would be terribly upset, and would call for a day of Global Mourning in reflection of the impending doom.

What a depressing way to greet the morning here on the West Coast.

Moreover, what an absolute insult to the wonderful legacies of Mother Theresa, Bishop Desmond Tutu, Lech Walesa, Doctors Without Borders, Albert Schweitzer and other clearly deserving recipients. Instead it goes to an environmental alarmist and propagandist and well-documented hypocrite (how was the flight to Oslo, Al? Did you buy carbon offsets?). Change the name to The Nobel Peace Prize for Hysteria.

God help us all if runs for President and wins. We got lucky the first time. We might not be so the second.

I saw this on my news page and there was a poll being done on whether or not people thought Al Gore deserved it. More than half said he did not. Then there was a poll taken right next to it on whether or not you were very worried about global warming and it was overwhelming "yes."

So people who are very worried about global arming do not think Al deserved it!

So even the global warming buffoons think this prize is a joke.

I LOVE IT!!!

Barney, we like you to visit because we see what the Left's best argument going is, and it's always weak and pitiful, and then we can laugh.

So thanks!

P.S. If you want to get a great summary of the sheer insanity & nutiness of what the left blogs are spewing out go to Little Green Footballs. We laugh for hours at you guys.

Jo, don't forget to point. That makes the laughing much more fun.

They seem to have overlooked how Al uses his global warming movement as a means to get literally billions of dollars from his carbon offset scam.

It is all a leftist conspiracy. All media except Fox News is liberal. The Nobel Peace prize is a meaningless empty liberal vessel. It's the logical us against the rest of the illogical world!!!

I like the addition of using the Bible to predict end times, and that somehow it can be shoehorned into any event you can think of. Don't Horoscopes do the same thing?

I would however be in favor of Reagan winning the prize. The man toppled that Soviet Union without even invading. Pretty slick. Makes me wish he was in charge. Apparently most Republicans, especially those running ,think the same thing.

"They seem to have overlooked how Al uses his global warming movement as a means to get literally billions of dollars from his carbon offset scam."

Yeah, that smells gross. It would be nice to think it was for something, but man... free money!!!

Powerlineblog.com has a list of past winners. Sorta puts into true perspective what a joke the prize is.

I don't know which is funnier. Al Gore winning the prize, or leftwingers thinking this "means" something.

Meanwhile, in other similar (fake) news, Bush was awarded a prize from the Christian Coalition. (an example of the equivalance of Gore winning something from the Nobel prize committee)...You get the picture? lol.

You're right oyster, I offered no suggestions, but I'm also not crying like a little girl about the fact that Al did win it. I don't have a problem with Al (AND the IPCC) winning. I also wouldn't have a problem with Irena Sendler, although I think the prize should go to someone who is contributing to peace now, instead of 50+ years ago. I'll give you credit though, for at least offering something. That's more than can be said for the vast majority of your contemporaries here at wizbang.

Damn Jay...given your expertise I would think you would be on the Jury voting...
We should have been tipped off back in 2000 where one of the major complaints against Gore was he wore "earth tone clothing".

Just as NYC had to move on to light rail and their subway because of the tons of horse shit on their streets...We will also have to drug kicking and screaming to something better...

But of course..it is easy for me to talk...here in Colorado our heat is Natural Gas and not heating oil...

You all back from the midwest and east...come back...say after your February heating bill...
and still claim we don't have to move beyond heating technologies that are soooo last century. (and no natural gas is not the answer..I just tossed that in cause it will go up less)

You all will never get over the fact that it took a Republican Supreme Court to strip our democracy and declare Bush beat Gore.

I think the worst thing about.this is what others have already said. This award is not about PEACE any more, as the name suggests.

You all will never get over the fact that it took a Republican Supreme Court to strip our democracy and declare Bush beat Gore.

Methinks it's people like you who will never get over the fact that the Supreme Court kept Al Gore from stealing an election.

I'll give you a hint, you can tell the people who obsess over things, they're the ones who constantly bring it up.

Hmmm, the way things have gone for years, now, I'm expecting posthumous awards for Rachel Carson, Pol Pot, Stalin and Hitler to hit the news any year now.

Perhaps a call for Algore's Nobel Peace Prize to be rescended (along with the call to have his Oscar rescended that's already been made) in favor of these much more worthy candidates (given recent standards) would find some traction...

Actually, LT, several here have already mentioned the Buddhist Monks who conducted the protests in Burma as a more appropriate recipient of the reward. They would certainly get my nod as having done more for the cause of world peace then someone making a movie.

These people risked imprisonment, torture and death to express their beliefs in peace and democracy, while the rest of the world didn't lift a finger to aid or protect them. Good luck finding them now though... the ones that weren't arrested (and likely executed) are scattered in the jungles.

Barring them, the award could have been presented to the leaders of the 1988 Burmese protests. These activists once again last month rallied to try to peacefully lead their country to democracy. They have certainly once again proven their worthiness for the award, assuming there are any left alive now, I guess.

King Bhumibol of Thailand might be a decent offering in light of his role in the recent military coup. If not for his interventions, the conflict there could have been a very bloody one. (There are, of course, two sides to that story, but at least that had something to do with accomplishing peace and regional stability, unlike the making of a documentary.)

How about the members of Saemmul Church from Bundang, South Korea? These missionaries risked (and, in cases, sacrificed) their lives to deliver a message of peace and hope to the Taliban-controlled areas in Afghanistan? Certainly taking that kind of a risk for peace for no personal gain means more than the making of a movie, right?

These are just off the top of my head. I'm certain there are others who are equally worthy to be named. But what has everybody here laughing is that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee... whose entire job description is to research candidates for this award... took an entire year, looked at all these and many other possible candidates, and in their wisdom selected...

Of all people...

Al Gore...

For making a movie...

That had nothing to do with peace anywhere.

I don't think anybody is really mad about it... it's just funny.

"You all will never get over the fact that it took a Republican Supreme Court to strip our democracy and declare Bush beat Gore."

You ignore the fact that an MSM coalition convened in Florida to count the ballots themselves and "confirmed" (as if they're some sort of an authority on the matter) what everyone already knew. That Al Gore lost 2000 presidential election.

Now that's what I call an inconvenient truth.

All good choices, J. Like I said, there are better alternatives. From what I can tell, the reasoning behind picking Gore (and the IPCC) is part of an attempt to think outside the box. The more we can mitigate the effects humans have on the climate, the less death and destruction from climate related conflicts. I don't necessarily agree with the idea, but I can understand the reasoning behind it. Of course, if you don't believe that humans are affecting the global climate, it must seem like an odd choice. The sense I get, though, is that the majority of comments here are merely based on anti-Gore bias, with no real thought given to the facts. As unfortunate as it is ignorant.

Hi LT,

>> As unfortunate as it is ignorant.

Heh, one could even say "inconvenient"... :)

But yes, I understand the NPP committee's reasoning, too. And I can put aside my opinions about global warming and Al Gore personally for the sake of the argument.

What still has me shaking my head is that the award was given to him for simply making a movie. And it's not like he was shooting live from a war zone with bullets whizzing overhead. The fact is that he sat safely in a comfortable director's chair somewhere and for this, he received world-wide recognition and a highly prestigious award for working towards "peace".

This in a world where real people bleed and die in the streets for peace (as in Burma) and go unrecognized and unmourned by the world at large.

Oh well, glad we can agree that there were worthy alternatives. Maybe next year someone will get the award for doing something that actually does help bring peace to some people. Lord knows the world needs it.

Is this really a peace prize????

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071012/ap_on_sc/nobel_the_other_winner

J, nice to find someone who can discuss an issue reasonably. I disagree with your portrayal of Al as "simply making a movie." Again, regardless of whether or not you buy the premise, you must realize Al's been working to publicize this issue for many, many years. I have to assume the powers that be took that into account. And let's not forget it wasn't just AG who recieved this award. The members of the IPCC were also recipients.
I would agree that there are more logical candidates who are involved in real struggles right now, and I don't see why the NNC feels the need to "think outside the box." The Peace Prize seems to me to be the best vehicle to publicize the causes that we wouldn't otherwise hear about. I figure they thought the climate issue was the defining issue of our day, and if we don't do something about it soon things could get real ugly for humans. I don't necessarily disagree.
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a recipient who makes sense. It seems like this is the direction the NNC is going and they don't give a crap what anyone else thinks.

LT:

Of course, if you don't believe that humans are affecting the global climate, it must seem like an odd choice.

My thoughts on the matter in no way color my thoughts on his winning the award.

What does is the fact he failed to meet any of the criteria set fourth by the committee themselves for winning it.

His selection was purely political and nothing more. It was the committee's way of codifying in their own warped minds how important climate change is.

In choosing The Goracle for his support of a movie that is pimped as a documentary and has been proven in a court of law to be nothing more that a political hitpiece that contains no fewer than 9 important factual errors they only certify they are a bunch of political hacks and have rendered the Peace Prize inconsequential.

As if it needed it given the past history.

J jones,
The Buddhist Monks don't risk torture. They risk strong interrogation tactics, which I understand are no worse than hazing pranks fraternities pull.

Get with the program.

All of this: you all chatting, the media buzz, the "Does he deserve it" hype - all raising awareness. Blogs and newspapers across the world trumpeting one of the most honorable annual prizes given to Al Gore. Read between the lines folks. Those behind the Nobel Prize most likely realized the state of $h!t the world is heading towards. Something capable of generating this much buzz for a sustainable world just could not be passed up. Hell, maybe the guy will run for prez.

And trust me, any man that gets that high up in U.S. politics with even an OUNCE of humanity left deserves SOME sort of prize.

After hearing that Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize, I thought back to 2000, when this man of intelligence and vision was running for president against an absolute IDIOT, and, unlike most American voters, you conservatives chose the IDIOT. George "Is-our-children-learning-yet?" Bush, KING OF THE MORONS WHO ELECTED HIM, is now vying with Richard Nixon and Harry Truman for the Prize of Being the Most Unpopular President in American History. (Not exactly the Nobel Prize, conservatives). And what exactly will history record regarding what Bush & Cheney have done to seriously combat global warming? Nothing at all. Bush was too busy undertaking wars based on lies and pursuing phantom "weapons of mass destruction" to even consider the matter.

herman:

And what exactly will history record regarding what Bush & Cheney have done to seriously combat global warming? Nothing at all. Bush was too busy undertaking wars based on lies and pursuing phantom "weapons of mass destruction" to even consider the matter.

History will record that what you call "KING OF THE MORONS" beat Gore in the only election they contested together.

They will also record of your apparent hero Clinton didn't "even consider the matter" of the Kyoto Treaty by not offering it to Congress for ratification and it will also show Congress in a separate move voted 95 to 0 against considering the treaty as anything close to being connected to reality.

And that vote pretty much mirrors what a vote on your credibility would show.

You aren't listening. We're cooling.
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Canon Andrew White, an Anglican priest in Iraq, deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. He worked tirelessly to get the spiritual leaders of Iraq to issue their fatwah against violence six weeks ago. Back when I told you the War in Iraq was essentially over. And that the globe is cooling.
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Who deserves a Nobel Peace Prize?

For Heroism
Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Theo Van Gogh. One who had to leave her faith and flee the country where she claimed refugee status from her own family, a land where she had risen to be a member of the Parliament, the other who was killed, all for a short and silly movie, in the struggle against a wicked ideology that sanctifies murder and death.

For Villainy
Vladimir Putin, a small man with a large ego who in Russia has rolled back the rule of law, free speech, and representative government, nationalized industries and used them as tools of war for conquest, unleashed security services to murder political opponents and hostile reporters, and begun the rehabilitation of Stalin's reputation, all to applause from his adoring public.

The Nobel Prize has degenerated into a loonfest based on how far out into left feild one can venture with an idea but still be accepted by the lemmings as valid.

Speaking of lemmings...

Al Gore's little doco shares similarities to another "Oscar award winning" documentary by Disney, known as "White Wilderness"

You may have heard of it, or at least it's most infamous part...you know, that lemmings will commit suicide by leaping off a cliff in droves.

Except, that they don't, unless they are "volunteered" by a helpful camera crew:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wilderness

"Inconvenient Truth" is this generation's "White Wilderness".

And, yes, I fully expect Almond-dinnerjacket to be awarded (or at least nominated) for a Nobel.

Oh, Barney, about Gore beating Rush...you know how one is nominated for the Peace Prize?

Nominations for the Prize may be made by a broad array of qualified individuals, including former recipients, members of national assemblies and congresses, university professors (in certain disciplines), international judges, and special advisors to the Prize Committee.

I know enough professors that I could probably get myself nominated as well.

By the way, Adolf Hitler was nominated for the Prize himself in 1939...just to show you the loose standards of the Peace Prize.

"History will record that what you call "KING OF THE MORONS" beat Gore in the only election they contested together." -- marc

Al Gore received from the American people in 2000 more than half a million more votes than your guy got, but you and your fellow conservatives (especially those in the Miami rent-a-mob) showed that you want to win by any means necessary, fairness be damned! If this means ignoring the fact that more Floridians thought that they had voted for Gore but a couple thousand got messed up by the "butterfly ballot," hey, taking advantage of people's mistakes is the Jesus thing to do, right, marc???? In any case,

"Before the votes were counted five Supremes stepped in,
told all them voters, "Hey, we want George to win!
'Stop counting votes' was their solemn invocation,
that's how George got his coronation.

Rigged that is. Illegitimate. No moral authority."

Same Supreme Court expressed dismay that "overvotes" weren't being counted -- see majority opinion. Fine then. You count all recoverable undervotes AND OVERVOTES, then Gore wins, as NORC has shown.

Look, if Gore had believed in the statewide vote, and not hooked his case to the four overwhelmingly Democratic counties, in a blatant and obvious attempt to circumvent the will of the people, then the Supreme Court might not have had to slap down his feeble attempt at arrogant seizure of power. And if Gore had had confidence in the whole statewide vote, he still would have lost, most likely, according to the best after action report available
Truly, though, Florida was too close for the precision of 'voting' to determine accurately the people's will. It would have taken fiat somewhere along the line, and SCOTUS is probably the right place for that need to be addressed.
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Also, son, a critical vote was 7-2.
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Nobel Peace Prize: NEW Global Warming Antiperspirant

AP - Al Gore has for a long time been full of hot air. He has a vivid imagination about the world around him. His inherent mistrust of the seasons seems to stem from an episode of the Twilight Zone, in which the Earth gets too close to the Sun. Summers are hot & sticky, and Al is probably the single individual who has done most to create greater worldwide understanding of the measures needed to create a more effective global deodorant.

If college roommate, Tommy Lee Jones, could save the City of Los Angeles from errant magma (Volcano), and the world entire from a giant cockroach (Men In Black), then certainly big Al Gore deserves a prize for his global initiative to combat global wetness. The same active ingredient and trusted formula that kept our leaders dry during the Cold War - now in unscented. As the planet heats up, you don't have to! Clinton tested: guaranteed to leave no trace.

Now that Global Warming has been legitimized, a "private group" out of Monterey California of all places, wants to seed the North Atlantic with iron oxide particulate, to help plankton absorb more carbon dioxide (greenhouse gasses). Strategy: "cleanup the planet and make a buck on the side." Another inconvenient truth; here's how their misguided scam to pirate the "Peace Dividend" sparked the worst terrorist attacks on United States soil: http://theseedsof9-11.com