Ann Coulter is coming under fire from liberals everywhere for -- gasp!! -- openly explaining what it is that Christians believe. Right Wing News has the transcript. i'm not going to post the beginning, because its mostly blustering back and forth between the two, but by all means go and read the entire thing, too. Here is what I think best sums up the point Ann was trying to make:
"From the October 8 edition of CNBC's The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch:DEUTSCH: Welcome back to The Big Idea. During the break, Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment. So I'm going to give her a chance. So you don't think that was offensive?
COULTER: No. I'm sorry. It is not intended to be. I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to, you know, live up to all the laws. What Christians believe -- this is just a statement of what the New Testament is -- is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament.
DEUTSCH: You said -- your exact words were, "Jews need to be perfected." Those are the words out of your mouth.
COULTER: No, I'm saying that's what a Christian is.
DEUTSCH: But that's what you said -- don't you see how hateful, how anti-Semitic --
COULTER: No!
DEUTSCH: How do you not see? You're an educated woman. How do you not see that?
COULTER: That isn't hateful at all.
DEUTSCH: But that's even a scarier thought. OK --
COULTER: No, no, no, no, no. I don't want you being offended by this. This is what Christians consider themselves, because our testament is the continuation of your testament. You know that. So we think Jews go to heaven. I mean, [Rev. Jerry] Falwell himself said that, but you have to follow laws. Ours is "Christ died for our sins." We consider ourselves perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all."
Now, like John Hawkins, I'm a little mystified about the whole "following all the laws" part of the discussion. But the basic point is accurate. Christianity is basically an add-on to Judaism, to put it simply.
What the controversy here is over, I have no idea. I'm guessing its simply because Ann Coulter spoke openly to a liberal media hack about her belief in Christianity, a religion constantly coming under attack in this country. Therefore, people must be "offended" because anything that Ann Coulter says must be offensive to someone!
Now, some retard has decided that he wants to fight back.
He wants to fight back by offering $1,000 to the first person to send him a video of someone attacking Ann Coulter.
With bagels.
This guy seriously is asking people to throw bagels at Ann Coulter.
So, once again Ann Coulter has opened her giant, hate spouting mouth on national television. You can find the info here:http://politicalticker.blog...
In short she has said that all Jewish people should be "perfected" to Christianity. Not ok.
We'll give you $1000 if you send us a video of you pelting Ann Coulter with bagels. You've got 1 week. Get moving people.
Sign up here (http://www.bragster.com/signup) and click disagree in order to join the bet. To win the prize you need to be over 18 and have to post your video in the comment section below.
And we're not paying you to do it, we're paying for the video. It's not our responsibility if you get arrested, sued, stalked by right-wing fanatics or if Coulter lights you on fire.
There's a couple things about this that I find mildly amusing.
First, throw bagels?! Wow. That's pretty lame. I think this guy might be a few McNuggets short of a Happy Meal.
Second, and really the better point, isn't it interesting how liberals tend to react when conservatives say something they don't like? There are cases all across the country of liberals burning conservative newspapers, unplugging microphones, causing near riots to try to stop a conservative speaker, and (most notably in Ann Coulter's case, although it has also happened to David Horowitz and William Kristol), throwing pies. There are a few conservatives who debase themselves to this level, but by and large, its liberals becoming unhinged -- trying to keep conservatives from making a point, or insulting said conservative and their values, because they then never have to argue it.
I guess intelligent, reasonable debate is not an option for this guy, and many liberals. Rather than respond to what he disagreed about Ann Coulter's statements, he just insults her and asks people to throw bagels at her.
Oh, but he isn't paying anyone to actually throw bagels at her -- just to have video of it, in case there's some person who happened to have thrown bagels at her a few years ago and got it on tape, yet it somehow escaped the attention of the media or Coulter herself.
As the title says: stupidity strikes again.
Comments (87)
Liberals can't handle the t... (Below threshold)1. Posted by WildWillie | October 12, 2007 3:04 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Liberals can't handle the truth. They stomp their feet like a petulant child. ww
1. Posted by WildWillie | October 12, 2007 3:04 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:04
2. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:06 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Don't you love it? So-called men wanting to attack a woman. More proof that democrat men have been drained of their testosterone. Glad they continually pick on women -- otherwise known as "people their own size"...
Who woman will they pick on next? You just gotta laugh.
2. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:06 PM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:06
3. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:08 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Oh and one more thing. I guess the reason so many on the left call her "Man Coulter" is so the democrat men who attack her can feel less "light in their shoes" when they're throwing their punches, so to speak.
Bwhahahahahahah.....democrats entertain us daily.
3. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:08 PM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:08
4. Posted by RScott | October 12, 2007 3:11 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
He without sin cast the first bagel.
4. Posted by RScott | October 12, 2007 3:11 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:11
5. Posted by Jeff | October 12, 2007 3:13 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Not to read too much into that threat but ...
bagels ? shouldn't he have stipulated "with a shmere" ...
5. Posted by Jeff | October 12, 2007 3:13 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:13
6. Posted by vnjagvet
| October 12, 2007 3:15 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Thirty years or so ago, I saw a bumper sticker that approximates orthodox Christian theology:
"Christians Aren't Perfect, Just Forgiven."
IOW, most Christian denominations and sects believe that Christ, the Son of God, died as a sacrifice for the forgiveness of the past, present and future sins of humanity. This unbelieveable act of God's Grace allows those who believe in this Divine Sacrifice to be relieved not only of their own sins but also the sins of their past and future generations.
Indeed, Christians believe that all those who seek and accept Christ's Sacrifice will be granted salvation. No exceptions. Jews, Gentiles, Muslims, Atheists, Agnostics, Buddhists, and those without any belief at all can accept this gift until the moment of death.
That is the teaching of the Thief on the Cross with Jesus, who was assured of paradise because of his acceptance of the gift of grace while dying with Jesus.
What Coulter said is not inconsistent with Christian theology. Nor is it "hateful".
6. Posted by vnjagvet
| October 12, 2007 3:15 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:15
7. Posted by vnjagvet | October 12, 2007 3:18 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Right on. Sometimes what Ann says sounds shocking (but that's mostly because the MSM takes it completely out of context or just makes stuff up) but sometimes Ann is so brilliant it takes a few seconds to think about what she said before you realize she's so unbelievably right on. She's a genius.
7. Posted by vnjagvet | October 12, 2007 3:18 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:18
8. Posted by Rance | October 12, 2007 3:18 PM | Score: -6 (8 votes cast)
"But the basic point is accurate. Christianity is basically an add-on to Judaism, to put it simply."
Christianity is an add-on to parts of Judaism that the Christians don't find too inconvenient.
About the only parts of the Old Testament that most Christians worry about today are Biblical creation, the 10 Commandments and the parts about homosexuality being an offense punishable by death. They pretty much ignore the rest of the requirements.
8. Posted by Rance | October 12, 2007 3:18 PM |
Score: -6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:18
9. Posted by nogo war | October 12, 2007 3:19 PM | Score: -7 (7 votes cast)
Why is it that anyone who finds fault with one of your goddesses is labeled a liberal.
Yes...but ah...can anyone here give me Ms. Ann's denomination of choice? She go to church every Sunday?
Is there ever a time time when one of your voices goes to far? (at least for you?)
I would hope that those supporting Ann on this dare not supporting Mitt(Mormon)Rudi(?)Thompson (?)..
after all it is about perfection.
If anyone thinks Ann is driven by truth and not $$$ find out how much she would charge to address your interest group, in her passion to deal with the "truth"
Hey Michael Moore is no different...
9. Posted by nogo war | October 12, 2007 3:19 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:19
10. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:21 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Would that be like the left basically ignoring their promise to be the tolerant party who embraces diversity? Got it.
Thanks.
10. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:21 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:21
11. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:22 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
That brilliant as usual post right after vnj (above) is me. Don't know how that happened.
11. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:22 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:22
12. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 12, 2007 3:23 PM | Score: -6 (8 votes cast)
I agree that you should read the whole transcript and not only the least offensive quotes Ann said and presented here (how convenient). Here is one example:
DEUTSCH: That isn't what I said, but you said I should not -- we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or --
COULTER: Yeah.
Her basic argument is that America would be a better place if everyone was a Christian, and Judaism is an inferior religion.
Also, her views on race relations are based on Seinfeld episodes. That sure lends credibility to her argument, but you keep standing-up for this national embarrassment.
We have Gore to look up to today and you have Ann.
12. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 12, 2007 3:23 PM |
Score: -6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:23
13. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:24 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Nogo, call me when Ann is seated in the VIP seats next to an ex president at our convention.
Until then, the Michael Moore comparisons don't work.
Thanks for playing. Thanks for losing. Next.
13. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:24 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:24
14. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:25 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Barney, yes you have Gore to look up to. That means you also look up to Arafat.
Good to know.
Bwahahahahahaha.....
Again, thanks for playing. Thanks for losing. Next.
14. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:25 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:25
15. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:27 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
P.S. God, these lefties are too easy....it's almost like men throwing bagels at a woman.
Oh wait.
15. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:27 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:27
16. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 3:27 PM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
i'm not going to post the beginning
Of course not. Because then you'd have to address things like this:
Sometimes what Ann says sounds shocking (but that's mostly because the MSM takes it completely out of context or just makes stuff up)
Yeah. Unlike right-wing blogs, say.
16. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 3:27 PM |
Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:27
17. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 3:30 PM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
That brilliant as usual post right after vnj (above) is me. Don't know how that happened.
Hi, Sock Puppet Jo! Could it be your usual sock-puppetry gone wild?
17. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 3:30 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:30
18. Posted by Veeshir | October 12, 2007 3:33 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Brian, do you realize there's a difference between saying everybody should be in your religion and saying you would kill everybody who's not?
I don't believe in any god, but I expect people from every religion to think theirs is the best, it would be stupid to think otherwise.
Now if she had said, "Kill the Jews! Wipe their country from the planet!", she would have been praised on lefty blogs, you know, like Ahmadinejad.
18. Posted by Veeshir | October 12, 2007 3:33 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:33
19. Posted by nogo war | October 12, 2007 3:34 PM | Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
Go where the action is
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/coulter-jews-will-be-perfected-when-they-become-christians/
19. Posted by nogo war | October 12, 2007 3:34 PM |
Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:34
20. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:35 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Speaking of men with no testosterone and no sense, well, hello Brian!
Brian feels manly when he attacks Ann. I'm glad you feel it sometimes. All men should feel like a man just once in their lives.
Again, you just gotta laugh.
20. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:35 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:35
21. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:37 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Veeshir!! BINGO! You nailed Brian. And now I have to go participate in the real world and pick up my child from school.
The real world. Lefties you should try it sometime.
21. Posted by Jo | October 12, 2007 3:37 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:37
22. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 3:38 PM | Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
Brian, do you realize there's a difference between saying everybody should be in your religion and saying you would kill everybody who's not?
Umm, yes. How is that relevant? Is anyone claiming she said the latter?
I don't believe in any god, but I expect people from every religion to think theirs is the best, it would be stupid to think otherwise.
It's one thing to think yours is the best and live your life content in your beliefs. It's another to actively say we should "throw away" the others and convert to yours. You do realize there's a difference, don't you?
22. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 3:38 PM |
Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:38
23. Posted by Oyster | October 12, 2007 3:38 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Deutsch is criticizing Coulter? That alone is hysterical.
23. Posted by Oyster | October 12, 2007 3:38 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:38
24. Posted by jpm100 | October 12, 2007 3:39 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
A Christian says everyone should become Christian. But does nother further than say it. She is the embodiment of evil.
However concern over a group that says everyone should become Muslim and kills thousands to achieve their goal is just a fiction for bumper stickers.
Nice.
24. Posted by jpm100 | October 12, 2007 3:39 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:39
25. Posted by ODA315 | October 12, 2007 3:41 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Hey Rance, nice to see you're an expert on what all christians believe wrt the old testament. Any tips on the college games this weekend while your at it?
25. Posted by ODA315 | October 12, 2007 3:41 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:41
26. Posted by jpm100 | October 12, 2007 3:42 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
OTOH, I believe Ann Coulter deliberately gets herself in these controveries. While we waste energy clarifying/defending her statements, she sells more books.
26. Posted by jpm100 | October 12, 2007 3:42 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:42
27. Posted by Veeshir | October 12, 2007 3:45 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
While we waste energy clarifying/defending her statements, she sells more books.
That's cuz you're going at it the wrong way, you don't really defend her, you just make fun of the people who (deliberately?) misunderstand her and get all OUTRAGED!!!!!!
And don't forget to point as you laugh, that drives them even further around the bend.
27. Posted by Veeshir | October 12, 2007 3:45 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:45
28. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 3:48 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Brian feels manly when he attacks Ann.
No, I just feel rational. You should try it. All hateful sock puppet hangers-on should feel rational just once in their lives.
Veeshir!! BINGO! You nailed Brian.
Yeah! By inventing things not in any post or comment! Well, I guess that's how sucker fish get their points made. Woo-hoo! Love it! Bwahahahaha! Oh, wait...
28. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 3:48 PM |
Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:48
29. Posted by ODA315 | October 12, 2007 3:50 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
For all you libs that have pounced on Coulter for being "hurtful", where were you when the following statements were made?
1. Reid - "The war is lost"
2. Durban and the Stalin/Hitler/Pol Pot references to our troops.
3. Jimmah Caaahta and his lovely statements about the jooooossssss in his recent writings.
4. Lurch Kerry and "terrorizing women and children in the dead of night" reference to our troops.
5 Dennis "Alpha Centari" Kucinich and our troops "targeting civilians for assination".
6. Barrack the Magic Negro stating the US warplanes purposely dropping munitions on civilians.
7. Ward "the unemployed" Churchill and his references to the 9/11 victims as "little Eichmanns.
Of course these are only really hurtful to those you disagree with, so as the KOS boy would say "screeeew theeem"!
29. Posted by ODA315 | October 12, 2007 3:50 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:50
30. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 12, 2007 3:50 PM | Score: -4 (4 votes cast)
"Brian, do you realize there's a difference between saying everybody should be in your religion and saying you would kill everybody who's not?" by vesshir
You mean like this:
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity." Ann Coulter
You were saying?
30. Posted by BarneyG2000 | October 12, 2007 3:50 PM |
Score: -4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:50
31. Posted by epador | October 12, 2007 3:50 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
It is deep down in most popular religions that your religion is the only true one and the world would be better off if everyone shared that religion. You may hear more "politically correct" tolerant statements from time to time, but if you look at the basic tenants of the religion, that's what it says. Sounds like Ann was simply being her usual NOT politically correct self. So, are you beating on her because she wasn't afraid to state what she believes, or because she believes something you find silly. Lets make sure you are fair and apply your derision to all devout Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Hindus if its the latter, and ignore you if its the former.
31. Posted by epador | October 12, 2007 3:50 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:50
32. Posted by epador | October 12, 2007 3:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Oh Gosh BG, you love to quote sarcasm as literal, don't U?
32. Posted by epador | October 12, 2007 3:53 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 15:53
33. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 3:58 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
For all you libs that have pounced on Coulter for being "hurtful", where were you when the following statements were made?
You realize, of course, that in all the posts about comments from liberals, when someone tries to call attention to comments from a Bushie, that they are routinely pounded for changing the subject?
33. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 3:58 PM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 15:58
34. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 4:00 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Is anyone claiming she said the latter?
Oh, I guess she did. You were saying, Veeshir?
34. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 4:00 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 16:00
35. Posted by Rance | October 12, 2007 4:00 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
ODA315,
I only know what I observe great numbers of them professing in public. That and the continued existence of the Bob Evans and Bubba Gump franchises.
35. Posted by Rance | October 12, 2007 4:00 PM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 16:00
36. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 4:04 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Oh Gosh BG, you love to quote sarcasm as literal, don't U?
You have an odd definition of "sarcasm". I do not think it means what you think it means.
Please identify the sarcasm.
36. Posted by Brian | October 12, 2007 4:04 PM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on October 12, 2007 16:04
37. Posted by Veeshir | October 12, 2007 4:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Oh, I get it Brian and Barney; it's exactly the same thing when you're talking about terrorist nations and about Americans.
I knew you guys hated America, but I didn't realize you would be so open about it. You're supposed to pretend to like it here.
37. Posted by Veeshir | October 12, 2007 4:05 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2007 16:05