« Truth Will Out | Main | Some Questions for Conservative Voters »

Republicans Offer SCHIP Proposal of Their Own

It makes much better sense than the Democrats' "let government pay for it all" solution. Rob Bluey has the details:

As Democrats stage the ultimate political stunt Thursday with an override vote of President Bush's SCHIP veto, Republicans are actually planning to do something about saving the children's health care program.

Sens. Mel Martinez (R-Fla.) and George Voinovich (R-Ohio) will join Reps. Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.), Tom Price (R-Ga.), Tom Feeney (R-Fla.) and Tim Walberg (R-Mich.) to introduce an alternative to the Democrats' $35-billion expansion. The lawmakers plan an afternoon news conference in the Capitol around the time of the veto vote.

Their alternative, based on a proposal crafted by the Heritage Foundation, consists of three elements:

1) A full reauthorization of SCHIP. The program would continue to cover children in families with incomes at or below 200% of the federal poverty level;

2) A child health care tax credit. Rather than putting more people on a government-run program, the legislation advances tax credits to families with incomes between 200% and 300% of the poverty level; and

3) A health care "federalism" initiative. This piece would complement both the reauthorization and the tax changes in expanding health care coverage, and would encourage even more dramatic health care experimentation at the state level with different approaches to coverage expansion.

Democrats, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi, have supported the idea of a tax credit, and others, such as Sen. Jeff Bingaman ☼ (D-N.M.) and Rep. Tammy Baldwin ☼ (D-Wis.), have offered legislation supporting the "federalism" approach.

Well, then Pelosi, Bingaman, and Baldwin can sign on to this compromise proposal. However, as Rob notes, the Dems primary goal with this issue has been to score political points, so they may very well dismiss the Republicans' proposal so they can continue to beat the Republicans and President Bush over the head with their current one.


TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
/cgi-bin/mt-tb.cgi/24896.

Comments (20)

Rep. John Boehner once hand... (Below threshold)

Rep. John Boehner once handed out tobacco lobby checks on the floor of Congress right before a critical vote on legislation dealing with tobacco. It is important to note that the so-called compromise really lets big tobacco off the hook by either reducing or eliminating the tax increase on tobacco meant to help curb smoking on one hand and aid the health of children on the other.

Big tobacco is unfortunately able to still win the day by holding onto a minority in Congress and a president who recieved big 2004 campaign and inauguration committee donations from Philip Morris and other tobacco giants. In Oregon, Philip Morris and Reynolds American are spending $10 million to block a statewide tobacco tax measure intended for children's health care there as well.

This conflict is not a partisan battle between Democrats and Republicans. Many Republicans support this tobacco tax increase. It's between the influence of the big tobacco lobby and the health and welfare of society.

"Rep. John Boehner once han... (Below threshold)
engineer:

"Rep. John Boehner once handed out tobacco lobby checks on the floor of Congress right before a critical vote on legislation dealing with tobacco." _ And Paul, this has what do to with the current bill? Nothing, of course.

"It is important to note that the so-called compromise really lets big tobacco off the hook by either reducing or eliminating the tax increase on tobacco meant to help curb smoking on one hand and aid the health of children on the other." - The tobacco industry doesn't pay this tax. The tax is paid by the consumer in the form of higher prices. And I really don't remember the last time anybody was forced to smoke. It is a decision, albeit a bad one, to smoke.

"This conflict is not a partisan battle between Democrats and Republicans. " - Let the 'compromise' bill pass and then debate the merits of expanding it with a tobacco tax. That would take the partisan portion out of the equation. But that isn't really what you want, is it?


It is said that 24% of Amer... (Below threshold)
Allen:

It is said that 24% of Americans smoke. So tax that bunch, and say 3 or 4 % quit. There is a lost of income from the taxes. How is that loss going to be made up? The dummies will, if in power, just raise the tax rate on all Americans.

And if they continue with this so called sin tax, what will they tax next? And Oregon is thinking of a new tax on cell phones. What next?

Why hasn't the insurance companies, hospitals, Dr's, and yes, even the churchs become involved in this. I agree that children should have the best medical care they can receive, but why not cut spending on foreign aid? That right there would pay for it, and shouldn't we Americans take care of Americans first?

The bottom line is we don't need new or more taxes! Wish the dummies would wake up to that fact.

I remember a Senator from T... (Below threshold)
hermie:

I remember a Senator from Tennessee who proclaimed far and wide on the campaign trail how proud he was to have worked on the family tobacco farm.

I wonder what happened to him?

"The bottom line is we don'... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

"The bottom line is we don't need new or more taxes! Wish the dummies would wake up to that fact."

How are the Republicans going to offset the tax breaks? Increase deficit spending as they usually do?

Allen, so far the lure of n... (Below threshold)

Allen, so far the lure of nicotine addiction has continued to create new smoking addicts, so I doubt the bottom will fall out of the tobacco market tomorrow and enough of a tax base will always be there to mostly fund health care. In Oregon, there has been a steady cutback in coverage as tobacco funds grew tighter where many medical conditions and dental care are mostly not covered by the public health program. Co-pay and benefit cuts most often follow a revenue decline, not increased taxes.

How are the Republicans ... (Below threshold)
Veeshir:

How are the Republicans going to offset the tax breaks? Increase deficit spending as they usually do?

I gotta ask you again Barney, are you the Barney Grumble from the Emperor's site?

I ask because you're both hilariously wrong on just about everything you say.

As Democrats stage the u... (Below threshold)
sean nyc/aa:

As Democrats stage the ultimate political stunt Thursday with an override vote of President Bush's SCHIP veto,
Rob Bluey

How dare the Constitution allow these "ultimate political stunts"! I say damn Article 1, Section 7! If the President vetoes, it shall have no chance to become law, for he, and he alone, is "The Decider"!

[obviously, /sarc/ off]

Paul,From the outs... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

Paul,

From the outset you have been the only one I have seen with the inane idea that this veto of the bill is some sort of political payback to the tobacco companies. However, you refuse to acknowledge that the tobacco companies would not be paying the tax and therefore are not intentionally put out by this piece of legislation.

There is no guarantee that if the tax is passed that people will stop smoking nor is there any guarantee that the tobacco companies' profits will be hurt. In fact, the existence of this expansion depends on the continuation of people smoking (how ironic). In fact, in order to sustain this bill, 1/3 of those it is meant to cover will have to become smokers in order to maintain its solvency, yeah, go figure.

So please, go sell crazy at Whiz Blue, we don't buy that here.

There is no guarantee th... (Below threshold)
mantis:

There is no guarantee that if the tax is passed that people will stop smoking nor is there any guarantee that the tobacco companies' profits will be hurt.

There's no guarantee, but there has been a steady correlation between increasing tobacco prices and decreasing numbers of smokers. Whether there is causation, or if the decrease is due to other factors (at least in part), such as increased awareness of the dangers of smoking and better youth education, is undetermined as far as I can tell (though the tobacco companies certainly think so). But it seems reasonable to me, and I can say from personal experience, that for the smoker who is contemplating quitting, ever-increasing prices can be the straw that broke the Camel™'s back.

How strange, since every me... (Below threshold)
Sue filutze:

How strange, since every member of our government including Jr. have full coverage insurance and will have even after leaving office for life! So their on the public dole and were paying for their health care but covering more kids, well now that's different, I mean it isn't like any of them can vote so why cover them. Besides like the GOPERS told the parents of the little two year old who was born with a heart defect and required immediate surgery after birth. They had no insurance and received SCHIP. The gopers told em, well if you cannot afford insurance you shouldn't have had the kid! But, they said their the party of LIFE!
I see, only those who are Republicans and have money deserve to live the rest of us including our kids can simply die. Nice people aren't they. Oh, and don't forget they just all gave themselves big fat raises!

Seems to be a thread of fol... (Below threshold)
epador:

Seems to be a thread of folks who couldn't afford their psych meds posting here.

I haven't read the Republican bill, but wouldn't be surprised if it had its own set of poison pills that Democrats would refuse to swallow. I hope not. It would be nice to see some good come out of all this.

Well the veto override fail... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Well the veto override failed. Looking forward to seeing the text of the Republican alternative. Sounds reasonable so far....

But it seems reasonable ... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

But it seems reasonable to me, and I can say from personal experience, that for the smoker who is contemplating quitting, ever-increasing prices can be the straw that broke the Camel™'s back.

So if this tax increase is supposed to pay for this expansion of coverage (that has thankfully failed), what happens when that revenue stream dries up? How would we pay for it then? Or does it even matter?

So if this tax increase ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

So if this tax increase is supposed to pay for this expansion of coverage (that has thankfully failed), what happens when that revenue stream dries up? How would we pay for it then? Or does it even matter?

The revenue stream would not "dry up," unless you actually believe all smokers will quit as a result of a 61-cent/pack increase. There would likely be a shortfall in the future though, and the funding would have to be found in other places to cover it. I didn't like the tobacco tax too much from the beginning, but it didn't sound like there was any other feasible way to expand the program. I can think of a couple of ways I would do it, but they involve either raising (non-sin) taxes or cutting other programs, and there's no way they could override Bush's veto on those, if they could get them passed in the first place.

You people amaze me..... No... (Below threshold)
wth:

You people amaze me..... No problem spending hundreds of billions in Iraq but not a few billion to cover childrens health care. You obviously have never had to deal with a serious medical condition. my god have mercy on your souls..

wth, Don't fight the terror... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

wth, Don't fight the terrorists in Iraq and you'll be like the 3,000 on 9-11. You won't need health care and neither will your children. You can bury them by the dozen in a shoe box. Only the most crazy, like 'Stark' raving mad, would rather fight them in the streets of America vs fighting and killing them by the thousands in Iraq. They're fresh out of ugly virgins and recruitment of suicide bombers is dropping off. Being Saddams lover (Shrillary/Peeeloshi are available yet) doesn't quite measure up even for an Islamic nut. The health care bill will end up just like Medicare. More and more private doctors have a sign posted, 'we do not accept medicare'. What do you do then. Do what the poor/welfare riders have always done. Use the ER as a primary care giver and let the government pay anyway. That's the way it will be until Shrillary institutes her dictatorship/socialist health care and then no one will need medical care. Get sick, die, the grave will be no more cold than she is. Slick had to do a lot of ugly women, most by force, to get away from Shrillary.

JR, are you sure your real ... (Below threshold)

JR, are you sure your real name isn't RJ Reynolds? But seriously, I've never seen Bush turn on any issue that his big donors hold dear. I've never seen that backbone or independence in Bush. In Reagan and others I've seen some independence and strength by comparison on some issues.

How about one that prophbit... (Below threshold)
Spurwing Plover:

How about one that prophbits a school from injecting kids full of ritlin without the parents concent

Paul,Your complete... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

Paul,

Your complete disregard of direct questions put forth to you rivals only that of Lee Ward. It's no wonder when all you have our children's tales and old boogeymen like "big tobacco" to make your case.




Advertisements









rightads.gif

beltwaybloggers.gif

insiderslogo.jpg

mba_blue.gif

Follow Wizbang

Follow Wizbang on FacebookFollow Wizbang on TwitterSubscribe to Wizbang feedWizbang Mobile

Contact

Send e-mail tips to us:

[email protected]

Fresh Links

Credits

Section Editor: Maggie Whitton

Editors: Jay Tea, Lorie Byrd, Kim Priestap, DJ Drummond, Michael Laprarie, Baron Von Ottomatic, Shawn Mallow, Rick, Dan Karipides, Michael Avitablile, Charlie Quidnunc, Steve Schippert

Emeritus: Paul, Mary Katherine Ham, Jim Addison, Alexander K. McClure, Cassy Fiano, Bill Jempty, John Stansbury, Rob Port

In Memorium: HughS

All original content copyright © 2003-2010 by Wizbang®, LLC. All rights reserved. Wizbang® is a registered service mark.

Powered by Movable Type Pro 4.361

Hosting by ServInt

Ratings on this site are powered by the Ajax Ratings Pro plugin for Movable Type.

Search on this site is powered by the FastSearch plugin for Movable Type.

Blogrolls on this site are powered by the MT-Blogroll.

Temporary site design is based on Cutline and Cutline for MT. Graphics by Apothegm Designs.

Author Login



Terms Of Service

DCMA Compliance Notice

Privacy Policy