9/11 started the war.

To the best of your knowledge how many of the 19 hijackers were Iraqi's?

About the same number as the "freedom fighters" in Iraq are Iraqi Zero

"Basically, I see it this way. 9/11 started the war,"
yep forget the Cole, embassy's..Beruit.
Terrorism is a philosophy carries out through methods to make a populace afraid.
Some lefty's argue that our Iraq "shock and Awe"
was done to terrorize a populace...

That aside...
the only thing 9/11 proved was that our belief that somehow we were exempt from actions that have taken place world wide was fantasy.

Wars are fought between armed forces.
How is that Turkey/Kurd thing going?
How is that Pakistan thing going(they have nukes)
Remember we provided Saddam with chemical weapons because he was fighting Iran(c'mon you all have access of the pic with Cheney shaking hands..which we supported the Shah through a coup disposing elected official because of the Soviets...
Then of course we supported bin Laden when he was a rebel fighting the Soviets...

We are all suckers...it has nothing to do with Libs or Conservatives...
The military industrial complex...folks
Does anyone really believe that our arming Sunni's to fight al Q will not be used against our troops...

The surge is working?
I probably am wrong, but wasn't the surge meant to provide the Iraq govt space to get something done?
Thankfully death is down...now what?

CB, I believe it's the same as the number of Algerians who bombed Pearl Harbor.

CB
As usual, with just one reply you can be wrong multiple times.

9/11 started the war.

This war started for real with the first WTC attack in 1993, followed by the African Embassy bombings,the attack on the Khobar Towers, the attack on the USS Cole and then 9/11.

After 9/11 the US chose to counter attack in force.

Hey Hugh,

Check the beginning of the third paragraph written in the above blog entry by DJ.
"9/11 started the war"

You were saying?

As usual you avoid answering the question.

To the best of your knowledgs how many of the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi's?

At least pretend you know the answer then spin your top.

To the best of your knowledge how many of the 19 hijackers were Iraqi's?

CB, your point (if indeed it could even be considered one) is pointless. To the best of your knowledge, how many of the 19 hijackers were Afghani?

Let me clarify:

There were numerous ACTS of war before 9/11.

9/11 was the point where enough people decided we should fight back ...

Oyster,

The answer to the question is 15 of the 19 hijackers were SAUDI ARABIAN.

No President has ever had such a close relationshhip with a foreign government as the Bushies have with Saudi Arabia. More than $1.4 billion in investments and contracts went from the House of Saud over the past two decades to companies associated with the Bush family. Hmmmm, nothing there, move along...

SO exactly how did 9/11 start the war? There wasn't one Iraqi on any of those planes.

And while you're at it how about giving us the benefit of your wisdom and explain why did the FAA and NORAD fail to follow standard operating procedures in responding to the hijacking of the four planes on 9/11?

I'm sure you must have a answer to that pointless question too. Or will you defy gravity once again and find a way to defend that blunder.

In essence why aren't we identifying the real criminals.

Foolish Ameicans.

CB
Learn how to properly make your point. You quoted the post without attribution. DJ can speak for himself.

Your second point is ludricrous:

And while you're at it how about giving us the benefit of your wisdom and explain why did the FAA and NORAD fail to follow standard operating procedures in responding to the hijacking of the four planes on 9/11?

Pure unadulterated truther BS. And the US Navy allowed Pearl Harbor to be bombed, right? Men walking on the moon...that was a Hollywood stage set, right? You have revealed yourself to be an AWOL leftist lunatic with the above remark. You should have stopped wth your first post.

DJ,

While you're at it why not clarify how many "ACTS" of war were promulgated by Iraqi's?

You know, "the first WTC attack in 1993, followed by the African Embassy bombings,the attack on the Khobar Towers, the attack on the USS Cole ".

Those acts of war. Just while you're clarifying.

DJ, I knew exactly what you meant and so did others here.

No CB. The answer to your question is simply zero.

Your vision is so myopic and thought processes so simplistic that no one could possibly be at fault for anything but the "Bushies" in your world. But rather than humor you into further hijacking a thread, I'll just leave you to wallow in your own petty foolishness. You even came dangerously close to jumping with both feet into the shadowy world of that "big conspiracy". Now don't you have a rich Palm Beach socialite somewhere to berate? Because you obviously have nothing to offer here but another of your typical sign-offs, misspelled in your fervor to sling insult.

No President has ever had such a close relationshhip with a foreign government as the Bushies have with Saudi Arabia. More than $1.4 billion in investments and contracts went from the House of Saud over the past two decades to companies associated with the Bush family. Hmmmm, nothing there, move along...

This is supposed to be proof of what, exactly?

That the Saudi government sent the hijackers to commit 911 with Bush approval?

Are you some kind of troother idiot?

civil [mis]behaviour:

"While you're at it why not clarify how many "ACTS" of war were promulgated by Iraqi's?"

How about this partial list:

1. Plotted to assassinate a U.S. President that was responded to by one of your heros Slick Willie.

2. Countless acts against U.S. citizens visiting Israel as a result of Saddam's financial support to Palestinian suicide bombers.

3. Allowed, and or looked the other way, when the 1993 WTC bomber entered Iraq with an Itaqi passport.

4. Countless numbers of incidences when he ordered Iraqi army to either shine fire control radars, or actively shoot missiles, at U.S. military planes flying in the southern and northern no-fly zones.

There's more asshat but at the moment I have little time to play games with an obvious troofer whose grasp of reality is tenuous, at best.

Oyster speaking to civil [mis]behaviour:

"Now don't you have a rich Palm Beach socialite somewhere to berate?"

Never happen Oyster, the rich Palm Beach socialites are the same ones Gore wanted recounted to the exclusion of any areas with a "Rethuglian" majority.

CB would never attack the very source of BDS.

CB
Here's some clarification:

How many North African nations attacked the United States in 1941-1942?.....( I'll save you the Wiki search: none) What was the first major US led offensive launched in WWII? An invasion of North Africa.

Here's a question for your conspiracy soaked brain: From what nation did China receive vital US missile technology and under which Bush administration did this happen? Hint: It wasn't a Bush administration.

Connect the dots

Questions for the dhimmi's.

1. If you (democrats) support release of the terrorists from Gitmo and they kill another American can that person's family come and kill your family, without punishment or penalty?

2. Hundreds of thousand of acres and thousands of homes were burned in Ca. simply because the enviro whacko's got another whacko judge to stop the clearing of fire lanes and controlled burns. Since enviro whacko's and whacko judges are all democrats can the people in Ca come and burn your home (their choice of who and when) with a few minutes notice?

Sounds like fair justice to me. Tit for Tat and all that stuff.

A little history of how the Allies entered
WWII by striking the soft under belly of the
enemy.
"An Army At Dawn by Rick Anderson"
Part one of The Liberation Trilogy.

The invasion began in South Africa.

Maggie
Eisenhower would claim it began with Operation Torch...that was not South Africa.

It's real simple, we (America) are in a war that we Americans have never seen before. It is, believe it or not, just like the crusades were several hundred years ago.

Those religious muslin frantic's brought it to our shores when they, for the second time, hit the twin towers. Yes there was other attacks, but not on our home soil.

As much as I dislike President Bush, he had the balls to take the fight back to them, on their soil, not on ours. Yes, he as commander in chief made mistakes, and the VP and Sec. of Defense also made mistakes. However, you bleeding heart liberals had better understand, if we don't win this war, we are in a world of hurt.

Trying to make peace with the muslim idiots will be when you lefites become muslims. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? I damn sure don't. I respect my freedom, served to protect our freedom, and became a disabled vet because I served to save your ass. And if you don't like this post, KMA.

Allen:

"Yes there was other attacks, but not on our home soil."

Sorry bud, you're either misinformed or misguided.

Any attack on a U.S. warship or U.S. consulate or embassy is home U.S. soil.

Marc,
I stand corrected. You are correct. However, I meant on/within CONUS. However I meant everything else I said, and what friggin lefty wants to argue that? Because if they do, KMFA.

Also, yes our warship, embassy, etc, is American soil, but it was not within CONUS. But why split hairs, we are at war, and the friggin bleeding hearts had better wake up to that fact. (But wouldn't their women look real good in the moslem idea of fashion?)

Allen:

(But wouldn't their women look real good in the moslem idea of fashion?)

Not to mention clitoral circumcision.

Marc, it may/would help stop the breeding of the bleeding hearts, wouldn't it? I don't agree with a lot of things either party spouts out, but the bleeding hearts are really mentally screwed up.

Gee, I always thought the Muslim Fundamentalist war on the United State started under President Carter. Think any of this would be going down right now if President Peanut would have sent 4 carriers and all the heavy muscle he could have mustered into the persian gulf and demanded the heads of those daring to attack the Unites States Embassy in Iran? Clinton was the same, 4 seperate incidences under his command and all we did was launch a few cruise missles at dubious targets. Send in assassination teams to kill those in charge of the groups and we accomplish a whole lot more than invading a cesspool country. mpw

CB,
You asked how many "ACTS" of war the Iraqis had committed before 9/11. As commenter Marc touched on they committed acts of war on at least a weekly basis and had done so for years. Do not forget that relations between the United States and Iraq were then based on the surrender treaty from the end of the Gulf War. The Iraqis were in regular violation of that treaty by harassing and attacking coalition forces, thus the Iraqis were at war with the United States.

Did anyone see Elder Bush on Fox news today? it was really telling.

Bush: "My favorite picture is a picture of American soldiers surrounding a guy whose been in a foxhole, Iraqi soldier, and the American guy says, we're not going to harm you, we're American soldiers." (fights back tears)

Bush: "...See, that side of the war never got -- the fact that we treated those people with respect in spite of the fact they were the enemy, it's really good
Americans on the right and left use to believe in these things. some still do. The war on terror is useless if we start doing the things we are fighting against.