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WaPo Blog: Pat Robertson will Endorse Giuliani

I was surprised to read this, and if it's true, it is quite a get for the Giuliani camp:

Pat Robertson, one of the most influential figures in the social conservative movement, announced his support for Rudy Giuliani's presidential bid this morning at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C

Robertson's support was coveted by several of the leading Republican candidates and provides Giuliani with a major boost as the former New York City mayor seeks to convince social conservatives that, despite his positions on abortion and gay rights, he is an acceptable choice as the GOP nominee.

It also slows any momentum for Mitt Romney within the social conservative movement. Romney had recently secured the backing of conservative stalwarts Paul Weyrich and Bob Jones III -- endorsements that seemed to strengthen his bid to become the electable conservative alternative to Giuliani. Romney had made no secret of his desire for Robertson's endorsement and has to be disappointed this morning.

The other major effect of Robertson's support for Giuliani is that it will quiet talk in social conservative circles that nominating Giuliani would lead "values voters" to abandon the Republican Party. The stamp of approval from Robertson should assuage the doubts of many (although certainly not all) of the rank-and-file social conservatives.

Hot Air also notes that the Politico is reporting the same thing, meaning that it's true. I'm pleased that pro-life social conservatives are getting it into their heads that sitting out of the race or voting for a third party candidate should Giuliani win the nomination, which he probably will assuming nothing happens in the mean time that derails him, is essentially a vote for a Democratic president by proxy. Having an abortion-on-demand-for-anyone-of-any-age president would be even worse than having a social issues moderate in the White House. I'm as pro-life as you're gonna get, and I would much rather have Rudy Giuliani in the White House than Hillary, Edwards, Obama, or any of the other Democratic candidates when it comes to this issue. I want a president who can and will reduce the number of abortions that take place in this country, and if a moderate can do that, then so be it.


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The cynic in me wonders if ... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

The cynic in me wonders if this has anything to do with Romney being a Mormon.

It is absolutely true. I've... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

It is absolutely true. I've heard the audio where Robertson calls Giuliani a "committed Catholic." It's sickening. Robertson is clearly sacrificing his principles for the chance of "winning."

Another endorsement that carries far more weight for conservative Christians is Jay Sekulow's (of the ACLJ) of Mitt Romney.

I agree. Evangelicals (Of w... (Below threshold)
Chris G:

I agree. Evangelicals (Of which I consider myself) should really look at this from a practical standpoint. I made this decision a year ago and came to the conclusion that Rudy was the best Republican candidate, because his track record shows he is conservative where it matters the most: Fiscal, Law and Order, and War on Terror.

True he is Pro-Choice, but I think he is really indifferent on the issue but took this particular stance because he was running for mayor of the largest liberal city in the country. There is a huge difference between being a Rudy style Pro-Choice and say.... marching in a rally while waving a coat hanger and going to presidential campaign events hosted by NARAL. Roe v. Wade will never be overturned, maybe interpreted more narrowly, but not overturned. So I don't think that issue should be a deal breaker for the only Republican candidate that completely neutralizes Hillary. Or maybe I'm just being naive.

In any event, Romney is a non-starter. I could care less about him being Mormon, but others do. Maybe VP is his niche for now. Huckabee just does not have the national recognition, but I like his record as governor of Arkansas. Maybe he could on the ticket as VP as well. I think Thompson has too much ground to make up before the primaries. Like I said.. Let's be practical

I agree totally with Chris ... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

I agree totally with Chris G. ww

Chris,Pragmatism i... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Chris,

Pragmatism is not the highest ideal for Christians. It tends to get one in trouble. I understand what you are saying, but in this primary period I will utterly oppose Giuliani. The only choice for social conservatives is Romney or Thomson. After the primary.. we'll see. Christians should not be supporting one who advocates homosexual marriages and abortion. Not to mention Giuliani's unconstitutional gun control position. Lord only knows where he stands on private property rights. Giuliani is no conservative and he is certainly no "committed Catholic."

BTW, if there is any reason... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

BTW, if there is any reason to believe that Thompson or Romney will not be hawkish in the war on terror, please fill me in. Giuliani has proven his leadership in this regard, but that is not to say that he is the only choice for hawks.

Correction: I was quoting f... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Correction: I was quoting from memory. Robertson actually used the phrase "dedicated Catholic."

"Giuliani is no conservativ... (Below threshold)
Chris G:

"Giuliani is no conservative and he is certainly no "committed Catholic."

No argument there. And I hear you.. trust me, I hear you. The question should be "Can a true social conservative get elected during a war (that the media opposes) after eight years of a president the media has labeled a raving right wing conservative lunatic theocrat (who happens to have a track record as a fiscal liberal and being lax on illegal immigration)"?

As a governor, I actually think Romney is the best qualified anyway, as he has extensive executive experience. But I think social conservatives are looking at his positions he took as governor of Maassachusettes and evangelicals are looking at him being a Mormon. Can he overcome that 1-2 punch?

I actually think Huckabee is the best social conservative in the bunch, but he has no name recognition outside of the South.

A Hillary, Obama, or Silky presidency will do more harm for social conservatives/evangelicals in one term than Rudy could in 5.

The "I support Giuliani bec... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

The "I support Giuliani because he is the only one who can win" meme makes a nice sound bite, but it is far from the truth. I am not so pessimistic as to think that the only way Republicans can win is by abandoning their traditional platform. As I said before, Giuliani has positions that are problematic not just for social conservatives. I did not even touch on illegal immigration.

The cynic in me wonders ... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

The cynic in me wonders if this has anything to do with Romney being a Mormon.

I dont think you need to be cynical about it all, I think its right out in the open as an issue. Unfortunately, because so far I like the guy.

What's the sinestrosphere s... (Below threshold)

What's the sinestrosphere saying about this endorsement? They hate Giuliani almost as much as they fear Robertson.

Heh. They fear Robertson. That fact always gives me a good belly laugh.

This is the same Pat Robers... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

This is the same Pat Roberson, that one of the guest posters here wizbang (conservative Rob Port) called "an absolute lunatic" perhaps because he Pat said on his TV "the 700 show"

"If I could just get a nuclear device inside Foggy Bottom, I think that's the answer. We've got to blow that thing up." or

"If the widespread practice of homosexuality will bring about the destruction of (the) nation, if it will bring about terrorist bombs, if it'll bring about earthquakes, tornadoes and possibly a meteor"

and the same person who in January 2005 suggested that Ariel Sharon's stroke occurred because he was "dividing God's land."

Quite an endorsement! For Guiliani maybe it's fitting, given some of his own hawkish foreign policy advisors statements on the Middle East and his personal strong tilt (more than any other candidate) towards Israel.


I think Pat is gettin a lit... (Below threshold)
914:

I think Pat is gettin a little senile?

And who care's who endorses who? We all have individual freedom to make up our own mind's and not be led around like a bunch of blind sheep by the media bloviator's and politico bigwig's..

Kim, with all due respect, ... (Below threshold)
Don:

Kim, with all due respect, I would like to point out that the POTUS has little, if any, control over the abortion issue with one exception. That being the appointments to The United States Supreme Court. Rudy has already stated the type of Justices that he would appoint. With that in mind, please note that within the next 5 years there will be at least three openings in the Court. He will appoint conservative Judges. Remember this, that all those that did not vote for George H. W. Bush, voted for (ACLU) Ruth Ginsberg for the Supreme Court. I hope that all you that voted for Ginsberg are pleased with yourself, you kept all your pure Conservatism principles and gave the Court to the ACLU. If Rudy wins I would be overjoyed if I last another five years so that I could see the Court moved to the Right.

OK, as a Rudy guy, I'm not ... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

OK, as a Rudy guy, I'm not down with this endorsement.

Thank you, 914. Except tha... (Below threshold)

Thank you, 914. Except that while I couldn't care less what Pat Robertson thinks, there are those that will follow his lead unquestionably.

Is it possible to refuse an... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

Is it possible to refuse an endorsement? This is quite good, and since everyone in the world is to the left of Robertson,... 'What Robertson's Giuliani endorsement means for the race'

What is interesting is that... (Below threshold)
Wordygirl:

What is interesting is that the Hillary camp apparently wants this to be a Hillary-Rudy election. Hmmm, why would that be? Perhaps because the Dems can then drag out as much dirt on Giuliani as the Republicans can on Hillary? Perhaps because then they don't have to show their true colors by sparring on the social issues with Rudy (because they all agree)? Because then even if Hillary loses, the Dems still win on social issues because they will have the liberal Rudy in office?

McGehee asks:"What's... (Below threshold)
Kapow:

McGehee asks:
"What's the sinestrosphere saying about this endorsement?"

It seems we've finally come full circle. The pro-choice, gay-rights-backing 'hero' of 9/11 (Rudy) endorsed by the TV preacher (Robertson) who said 9/11 was God's punishment for America's culture of sin.

- Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo.

Then McGehee opines: "They hate Giuliani almost as much as they fear Robertson."

I wouldn't say the leftosphere fears Robertson. I'd say, they think he's nuts. Granted, occasionally he's the scary kind of nuts, but most of the time he's just the funny kind of nuts.

IMHO, if the Rudy knew what was good for him, he'd fear a Robertson endorsement. As I recall, that whole "we deserved 9/11" meme didn't really go over that well with mainstream America.

Very surprising considering... (Below threshold)

Very surprising considering the views of Giuliani and that social conservative Mike Huckabee has now surged to third place among the GOP hopefuls, ahead of both McCain and Romney according to the latest Rasmussen polling. Maybe Rev. Robertson endorsed a candidate too soon as conservatives are now divided, but could fall behind a remaining standing candidate after the early primary contests.

I can't imagine that anyone... (Below threshold)
D.Doré:

I can't imagine that anyone truly believes that there are Christians who would follow Pat Robertson unquestionably. He's only a preacher, and television personality, he's not their Savior.

As an Evangelical, I refuse to vote my fears, and must only vote my hopes. Guiliani won't get that vote in primary, or general election.

Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me.

Wow! Pat must really hate m... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Wow! Pat must really hate mormons.

Guiliani already had the senile, out-of-touch with reality vote, so I do not see how this helps him.

Simple BarneyG2000..now He ... (Below threshold)
914:

Simple BarneyG2000..now He has the senile out of touch with reality televangelist vote sewn up!

Jeff-Politics is t... (Below threshold)
Rory:

Jeff-

Politics is the second "oldest" profession-catch my drift?

Don't get that sausage making mixed up with religion.

Government is compromise . It's not ever going to be virtuous, pure or whatvevuh....

You get to choose your religion-let's keep it that way.

There are states-nation states where you don't get to do that.

{There's a high probability that is *the* reason you are on this side of the pond.}

Looking for Republican gold... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Looking for Republican gold? Lurch left, young man! Lurch left!

To put Crickmore's link int... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

To put Crickmore's link into perspective, here's an excerpt from the author's about page:

After getting my Master's at GW, I worked as an intern at the Clinton White House's Office of Speechwriting. From there I began writing campaign direct mail pieces for a major Democratic consulting firm. In 1996, I served as the communications director for an unsuccessful congressional campaign in Pennsylvania. Shortly thereafter, I joined the communications department at Americans United for Separation of Church and State, where I worked until 2002. I've been doing freelance writing and consulting ever since.

Just so you are clear on the bias that fuels this particular fire.

I can't believe Pat would g... (Below threshold)
Richard:

I can't believe Pat would go against his Christian values and pick Rudy Giuliani. I'd like to know why?. I am supporting Huckabee because he puts God first, I believe a president who gets on his knees before the Lord, and through Christ make all his decisions, God would indeed bless this country. I don't believe Pat prayed about whom he should support for president, I don't think the Lord would support a man who believe in a womens right to choose to kill her baby, or support gays marrying each other. I am very disappointed in his decision.
Thank you for your time. Richard

Giuliani and Judges ... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Giuliani and Judges [Ramesh Ponnuru] via The Corner Wednesday, November 07, 2007

If he had so much experience and such great judgment at picking judges in the '80s, why didn't any of it show when he was mayor?

Olson's recollections about Giuliani's time at the Justice Department are also at odds with those of Mark Levin. I respect both men, but they can't both be right.

Think about it.

A Politico revi... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:
A Politico review of the 75 judges Giuliani appointed to three of New York state's lower courts found that Democrats outnumbered Republicans by more than 8 to 1. One of his appointments was an officer of the International Association of Lesbian and Gay Judges. Another ruled that the state law banning liquor sales on Sundays was unconstitutional because it was insufficiently secular.

A third, an abortion-rights supporter, later made it to the federal bench in part because New York Sen. Charles E. Schumer, a liberal Democrat, said he liked her ideology.

Cumulatively, Giuilani's record was enough to win applause from people like Kelli Conlin, the head of NARAL Pro-Choice New York, the state's leading abortion-rights group. "They were decent, moderate people," she said.

"I don't think he was looking for someone who was particularly conservative," added Barry Kamins, a Democrat who chaired the panel of the Bar Association of the City of New York, which reviewed Giuliani's appointments. "He picked a variety from both sides of the spectrum. They were qualified, even-tempered, academically strong."

Giuliani Judges Lean Left




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