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Supporting the troops is too "pro-war"

Some Cambridge Boy Scouts had some money they earned in a fundraiser. They could have spent it on anything, but decided they wanted to use it to give some support to our troops fighting overseas. So they spent $1,500 of their own money, printed out fliers, and got approval from the Election Commission (twice). They then headed over to polling sites and were promptly kicked out. An election worker (any guesses on the party?) claimed they were too "pro-war".

The Cambridge scouts earned some money in an unexpected fundraiser and at first they thought about spending it on trips to Water Country, Six Flags, white water rafting or skiing. But then the discussion turned toward a service project -- collecting donations for the troops at the polling sites on Election Day. The adults were somewhat amazed to the fact that these kids were choosing to spend the money on others when they could very easily just go on a fun trip.

But on Election Day, Marsha Weinerman, executive director of the Election Commission, removed the boxes from all the polling stations because one woman, a poll worker who does not deserve to be named, complained it was a political statement.

Marsha Weinerman, executive director of the Election Commission, refused to talk to local Fox 2 about her decision.

Now, after the scouts got approval from the Election Commission twice, made 25,000 flyers and distributed them, e-mailed everyone they knew, putting up flyers in city buildings, schools, libaries and local businesses and distributed boxes the day before the election, the youths' work -- not to mention over $1,500 in advertising and materials -- were all for naught.


I always thought that supporting our troops included supporting their mission, but I'll accept liberal bleating about supporting the troops and not the war -- when they actually do. Stories like this prove over and over again that they don't support our troops. Not even a little bit.

Blackfive has a good idea:

The Boy Scouts in this case should get not only an apology (the effort having been approved twice by the appropriate commission), but I further feel that Marsha Weinerman should personally, repeat, personally, repay the Scouts the roughly $1,500.00 they spent on the effort to support the troops. Never happen, just following orders I'm sure, but I can dream.

What's interesting is how sending supplies and comforts from home to our soldiers is now suddenly political. Why? OK, you don't support the war. But why do you care if a Boy Scout Troop wants to send our men and women fighting overseas supplies? I will never understand these people who have such a festering hatred for the very heroes who keep us safe that they want to keep them from getting supplies that can make their time overseas a little bit easier. Even more importantly, it reminds them that we still support them over here. Sadly, these boys were just taught a cruel lesson. They wanted to do something kind for other people, people who deserve such kindness, went to incredible efforts to do so, and were shot down because of some idiots politicizing something that doesn't need to be politicized. We should all support our troops. They are the ones sacrificing, for this country's entire proud history, for our freedoms. Though they often don't ask for it, we should be thanking them every day. Hats off to the Boy Scouts for at least trying.

For what it's worth, the Election Commission Director, Marsha Weinerman, is now saying that the troop never got permission to collect for the troops.

Here's a suggestion, both for the Scouts and anyone else wanting to help out our troops: adopt a soldier. There are several great organizations you can work through. Your commitment is usually minimal -- send letters and occasional care packages -- but as someone who has adopted soldiers before, I can tell you that this lifts their spirits more than you know. You may be able to become acquainted with some extraordinary people, like one of my former soldiers, Ted Janicki, who recently returned from Afghanistan. Here are some of his writings to me about his work in Afghanistan and the appreciation his unit felt for Any Soldier:

26 Jan 2007, 11:58 am

I got your box today. Thank you. The food was all snached up in a matter of minutes.

26 Jan 2007, 3:41 am

Trust me - your notes are enough. I am just glad to see that we have some youth in our nation that are solid human beings. People that go out of their way for others. People that support the troops that are doing things not in the immediate vacinity. People usual only support the things that are directly related to them. Something that is more tangible. We could easily be forgotten over here. I am proud to see someone like you that I feel can be our future leaders. We are doing this for individuals like you.

04 Jan 2007

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. Thank you for all the support during this holiday season. It truely aided us through this difficult time away from our loved ones.

14 Dec 2006

There is no doubt that security continues to be a major challenge. Remnants of the former Taliban regime and elements of al-Qaeda continue to try to derail progress throughout the country. But just five years ago, there was no formalized rule of law; there was no respected national army; there was no national police force. The nation had been wracked by war for nearly 30 years -- and was a pariah from the international community. Only three states were willing to accord the government diplomatic recognition -- and there was little order within Afghanistan. The Taliban harbored and supported al-Qaeda, the world's most deadly terrorist organization.

While it has become fashionable in some circles to call Afghanistan a forgotten war, or to say the United States has lost its focus, the facts belie the myths. To be sure, no one doubts that great obstacles still exist; the recent up-tick in violence reiterates that the enemies of a stable, peaceful Afghanistan remain persistent and motivated.

Even so, the Afghan people -- with strong support from free nations across the globe -- are building a future they can be proud of: secure and prosperous at home, and respected abroad.

06 Dec 2006

In today's age, there is often a tendency to measure progress against an unrealizable ideal, to expect development to occur in a vaccuum that does not factor in preexisting conditions. It is hard to comprehend how destitute Afghanistan was in 2001, and how much progress has been made since. Afghanistan was one of the poorest nations in the world with little infrastructure; it was ruled by a vicious totalitarian regime; drought had decimated agricultural mainstays; the economy was a shambles; and decades of war had left it a broken, lawless nation.

02 Nov 2006

There was nothing easy about the two months of training we went through in preparation for our Afghanistan deployment. Blood, sweat, and tears were the norm. The high school attitude kept creeping back into my head: Why am I learning this stuff? I'll never use it in my lifetime. Now that we are in Afghanistan, I wouldn't have traded one second of that training, which is put to use on a daily basis. On one specific day, it made a real difference.


I recommend anyone looking for a way to help out our troops visit one of the following websites:
  • Soldiers Angels
  • Any Soldier
  • Adopt-A-Platoon
    It's a great, easy way to support our heroes serving overseas without any politicizing from the likes of Marsha Weinerman, who can't understand that supporting our troops is something we should all be doing.

    Hat Tip: Gateway Pundit
    For video, see Stop the ACLU


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    Comments (23)

    Contact the Cambridge Elect... (Below threshold)
    D:

    Contact the Cambridge Election Commission here

    [email protected]

    Yes Cassy, the actions of o... (Below threshold)
    BarneyG2000:

    Yes Cassy, the actions of one persons is indicative of the group at whole.

    Never mind the details of the fund drive, why should anyone person or group be allowed to solicit donations at a polling place?

    By the way, Army desertion is up 42% this year over last and up 80% since 2003. The best way to support the troops is to get them home.

    Source? And 42% of what? </... (Below threshold)

    Source? And 42% of what?

    Barney,What part of ... (Below threshold)
    SCSIwuzzy:

    Barney,
    What part of the prior permission escapes you?

    Now, up 42% sounds really big, doesn't it? But when you start with a small number, it doesn't take much to increase it by a big looking percentage.
    Something like 7 out of 1000 up to 9 out of 1000, say.
    But trust a serial prevaricator like Barney to spin small increases into something that sounds impressive.
    Probably does the same thing on dates when the lights go out...

    Just a heads up folks...<br... (Below threshold)
    nogo war:

    Just a heads up folks...
    Be sure to allow for some scrutiny
    http://www.tagworld.com/davidbowers/PostDetail.aspx?id=fe365a7d-1623-467c-8995-85c7d9fad166

    "According to the Army, abo... (Below threshold)
    BarneyG2000:

    "According to the Army, about nine in every 1,000 soldiers deserted in fiscal year 2007 (which ended Sept. 30), compared to nearly seven per 1,000 a year earlier. Overall, 4,698 soldiers deserted this year, compared to 3,301 last year. "

    Source CBS news

    So you see the 9 out of every 1,000 is a big deal scuzzy when you are talking about a base 500,000.

    Is there a place we can sen... (Below threshold)
    RYan:

    Is there a place we can send money to to donate to that boy scout troop?

    <a href="http://ww... (Below threshold)
    All Services Meet Recruitment Goals ... Every active-duty and reserve branch of the military met its accession goals in October, permitting recruiters across the board to begin fiscal year 2008 in the plus column. ... The Army brought in 4,564 recruits, 64 more than needed for October for a rate of 101 percent. The Marine Corps netted 2,788 new people, 68 more than goal for 102 percent.
    Sucks to have an all-volunteer force. Some will wash out in Basic, some will disqualify themselves in tech school, some will just plain be stupid and get kicked out for drinking or drug use.

    And some will de-volunteer themselves. I'd pretty much be willing to bet they'll be looking over their shoulders the rest of their lives, waiting to be caught... by a military that is just as glad to see them gone.

    I guess it'd be a lot better to have a draft and considerably higher numbers of deserters.

    By the way, what happens if they get tired of being deserters?

    Despite the continued increase in Army desertions, however, an Associated Press examination of Pentagon figures this year showed that the military does little to find those who bolt, and rarely prosecutes the ones they find. Some are allowed to simply return to their units, while most are given less-than-honorable discharges.
    And this derail has little to nothing to do with the subject at hand - which is why the Boy Scouts shouldn't be allowed to collect stuff for the troops.

    Here we go again. I though... (Below threshold)
    epador:

    Here we go again. I thought we put this "make all AWOL soldiers deserters" bending statistics garbage to bed months ago. Is NG and BG's short term memory that bad, or do they think our's is?

    Someone needs to make conta... (Below threshold)
    Scrapiron:

    Someone needs to make contact with a lot of these loons, with a baseball bat to the head.

    baghdad barney:<em... (Below threshold)
    marc:

    baghdad barney:

    By the way, Army desertion is up 42% this year over last and up 80% since 2003. The best way to support the troops is to get them home.

    And so...

    There's bad apples on every tree. Just look at congress. That aside, the Army makes it too easy to desert:

    Despite the continued increase in desertions, however, an Associated Press examination of Pentagon figures earlier this year showed that the military does little to find those who bolt, and rarely prosecutes the ones they get. Some are allowed to simply return to their units, while most are given less-than-honorable discharges.
    Got a clue how many that have deserted would not have if the ones that do were actually tracked down Baghdad?

    I didn't think so.

    But maybe this will help in keeping a few potential yellow-bellies from fleeing north.

    I agree with the valuable l... (Below threshold)
    epador:

    I agree with the valuable lesson. They are learning early about intolerance and the fascist tyranny labeled malapropos as political correctness.

    Pathetic. Some people here... (Below threshold)
    Mitchell:

    Pathetic. Some people here don't deserve to be here--pure accident of birth. Venezuela, Iran, Russia would do them better.

    Isn't it lovely how liberal... (Below threshold)

    Isn't it lovely how liberals do everything they can to make us lose wars?

    500,000-4698.hmmm.., not a ... (Below threshold)
    the struggler:

    500,000-4698.hmmm.., not a big deal.

    Barney the incredible buffo... (Below threshold)
    Drago:

    Barney the incredible buffoon: "Yes Cassy, the actions of one persons is indicative of the group at whole."

    Never mind the details of the fund drive, why should anyone person or group be allowed to solicit donations at a polling place?"

    hmmmmmm, lets see who else was "soliciting" at the polling places without any problem. From the Boston Herald: "At the same polling station that was the scene of the complaint, on the same bulletin board where the Scouts had posted their flier were about 75 other fliers. According to Patterson they included those "promoting Get Out of Iraq, Campus Green, College Democrats of America." The only one removed belonged to "those evil Boy Scouts collecting things for the troops," he added."

    Face it Barney, lefties hate the troops. Always have, always will. Keep up your lying lefty ways however. You aren't fooling anyone with your transparent, Freshman-level "Rules for Radicals" hijinks.

    Moron.


    "That aside, the Army makes... (Below threshold)
    BarneyG2000:

    "That aside, the Army makes it too easy to desert:" marc

    According to marc it is the pentagon's fault that so many active duty army personnel are deserting.

    Marc, why does the army hate the army?:

    It's getting much harder to... (Below threshold)

    It's getting much harder to fool people, which really sucks for the left. They've unknowingly depended for years on a lack of accurate reporting about their events and aims, poor communication and coordination between folks on the right, and negligent recording of their thoughts and words... and excesses. After all, if you can control what's known about an event, you essentially shape the event - right?

    But the internet doesn't forget - and it's getting easier and easier to disseminate information about things they'd much rather keep quiet. For instance, the University of Delaware's residential indoctrination is certainly something that they didn't want widely known. You can pull up accurate quotes of candidate opinions, and contrast what they said THEN with what they're saying NOW.

    You can get information from a newspaper halfway across the country... and find out what happened, and what people think of it.

    Boston Daily Blog - Boston Magazine

    This is how the idea that those who are against the war are also somehow against the troops gets started. Good for you, Cambridge. You've managed to teach a group of kids that ideology trumps empathy every time. Well, if you want to eliminate war what better way to do it than eliminate the troops? And since you can't simply march them off a cliff (think of the ecological damage, though it might be justifiable as PC since that was a way the Amerinds used to hunt buffalo, and what was good enough then should be good enough now) it'd be best to try to deprive them of creature comforts so they'll get out of the military.

    So when the Boy Scouts wanted to get stuff for the troops - it was for the troops' own long-term good that they were refused.

    But who would think that people would believe Boy Scouts over an election commissioner? Or accounts by students in a dorm over the word of the Dean?

    Don't they know better than to Question Authority?

    Dammit. I hate losing bloc... (Below threshold)

    Dammit. I hate losing blockquotes that way.

    Let's try again...

    Boston Daily Blog - Boston Magazine... This is how the idea that those who are against the war are also somehow against the troops gets started. Good for you, Cambridge. You've managed to teach a group of kids that ideology trumps empathy every time.

    Well, if you want to eliminate war what better way to do it than eliminate the troops? And since you can't simply march them off a cliff (think of the ecological damage, though it might be justifiable as PC since that was a way the Amerinds used to hunt buffalo, and what was good enough then should be good enough now) it'd be best to try to deprive them of creature comforts so they'll get out of the military.

    ------------

    Sorry about that.

    Baghdad barney:<em... (Below threshold)
    marc:

    Baghdad barney:

    "Marc, why does the army hate the army?:" Child-like logic is comical.

    But not from an alleged adult such as your self.

    One of the comments in the ... (Below threshold)
    epador:

    One of the comments in the Wicked site linked above in this post was from an anonymous poll worker who seems to have the real skinny on the events that transpired. I'd recommend following the link [never got permission] and scrolling down to the comments near the bottom. It supports contentions that this is more than buffoonery, but evil workings of a person with delusions of grandeur.

    Hey Barney, if CBS was the ... (Below threshold)
    ODA315:

    Hey Barney, if CBS was the source you best check if the info came in from a Kinko's fax machine.

    Have the tories in the camb... (Below threshold)
    Spurwing Plover:

    Have the tories in the cambrage city council and the mayor all tarred and feathered
    depp=true




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