Provocative thought for the thread: If the races were reversed in this incident, what would the NAACP's reaction be?

Or better yet, would the Neo-Nazi rants be much different than what the NAACP is putting forth now?

They marginalize themselves with this nonesense and they reduce the impact and meaning words are meant to have.

Cries of racism now sound like cries of wolf. No one listens to race baitors like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton anymore. They're like Britney Spears on television. There for sensational ratings. They aren't serious.

Let me tell you, if one of my sons burst into someone's home, beat their child with a bat and caused brain damage, and tore the place apart, the last thing I would be doing is defending him. I would be devastated that I had raised someone who could commit such atrocities.

There is no excuse for the atrocities committed by this deranged individual. None whatsover.

There is also no excuse for the kind of defense used by Rev Amos Brown. None whatsoever.

There is also no excuse for the race baiting position of this particular blog entry. None whatsoever.

It's obvious that the person sitting at the computer who wrote this entry is trying to deflect their own desire to incite by sharpening the racist debate using words as a weapon against those who in a general sense HAVE been discriminated against and still are.

What's incendiary is the position that "Holding each person accountable for his or her own actions, regardless of skin color or gender, is no longer allowed in the progressive and enlightened United States."

I beg to disagree. In the progressive US let's start by telling the truth about institutional racism and those who continue to hide behind their transparent white sheets. Until then we can expect the same kinds of racial overtones as in this incident.

Shame on you.

cb

I'm laughing so hard at your twittery it's hard to write.

The thugs took a chance that they could do a home invasion robbery without any consequences...and unless you hold that individuals have no right to self-defense ("hey, rape victim, just lay back an enjoy it!") then your hole spew is an exercise IN racism.

And just like clockwork, CB beclowns itself.

BTW

while the article states that the "provocative act" provision of CA law is "rarely" used, it is related to another provision of CA law that is used quite often in cases where someone dies in the course of a crime.

Say the 19 y/o victim of the baseball bat beating died instead. All three of the thugs could have been charged with First degree murder even if only one of them did the beating. This is because the death arose out of THEIR criminal act.

I hope the DA also added mayhem charges to Hughes..and in light of his mother's enabling comments its too bad we can't charge her for parental malfeasance for raising such an indecent excuse for a human being.

CB:

Absolutely right. The institutional racism of the radical left must be obliterated. That will occur only when humanity is subject to the same expectations and standards of conduct across the board, regardless of race. The lefts' message to blacks is that they are incapable of functioning in society without Democrats' beneficent helping hand. What condescension. Shame on you, sheets Byrd!

There's lots of questions about the hundred of
thousands of dollars which were donated for the
original Jena6, much of which has disappeared
without a trace.

I'm Black. And although my views are more to the right of most of my friends, we all think the NAACP is a joke, who uses misfortune to generate revenue to pay their overstaffed board.

With that said. The angle most people are missing is that the home owner was able to defend his home with a gun. This is key considering the behavior exhibited by the criminals is more prevelant in places like Chicago, DC, and NY, who ban the ownership of handguns.

The NAACP is about $$. Like most non-profits, they need money to pay the board. They just have to defend the small minoirty of the Black community who exhibit anti-social behavior to get the money, because this is the segment who most often comes in conflict with the business end of a gun or law enforcement, or both.

For every James Byrd case (legitimate racial crime against a Black man), there are 5,000 cases like the one listed in this article that really boil down to anti-social behavior

Chris G

"Gun free" zones are an open invitation to criminals (Vtech anyone?)

If someone in the Ryen family had had a gun, then CA residents would be spending thousands of dollars a year keeping Kevin Cooper alive.

typo

"would NOT be"

This case is most absolutely about racism.

On top of charging that dude with robbery, murder, and assault, they should charge him with a hate crime for singling out this family based upon the color of their skin and violating their civil rights.

Chris G, got one thing right. It's all about the millions of dollars the NAACP sucks from the poor, obtains by blackmail and extortion, and uses to provide themselves with a lifestyle none of us can enjoy. $$$$$$$$$ is the brain of the NAACP, $harpton and Je$$ie. Biggest con in history.

Unless Mr. Edmonds himself has a history of willfully participating in some form of "institutional racism" due to obvious prejudices or has in some fashion done some racially motivated injustice to these three men, then CB's diatribe has no place in this discussion.

"There is also no excuse for the race baiting position of this particular blog entry." How dare someone bring up the race baiting position of others in a blog entry, because, well...you know...there are real racists out there. Why ... she must be a racist herself!

"Invisible white sheets" indeed. All CB has to do is throw out an accusation as nebulous as that and that's the end of discussion.

wtf is "institutional racism" supposed to mean? No particular person is a racist but our organizations and government are? That is illogical and disingenuousness. People can be racists, not intangible objects and concepts.

In this case the only racists are those trying to excuse criminal behavior and resulting punishment because of someone's skin color. You break the law and life isn't fair to you. You see it all the time. You do the same crime with two different police departments, prosecutors, judges, and defense attorneys, and you will end up with different degrees of punishment. Get over it.

And if they had entered your home at 4am civil [mis]behavior?

Would you offered them a latte before or after your child were beaten to a senseless pulp?

Oh yes, the homeowner should be charged with letting a felon escape. It's a damn SHAME he didn't do a triple on the punks. Racism, BS! Punks break into a home at 4AM, expect to get shot, especially my house. I don't give a damn what color their skin is, they will be shot. And at that time, it's dark, who knows what color their skin is, and who would care, unless it's civil behavior, who would let them rape his wife, daughter, beat the crap out of his son and himself.

The fringe lefties had better understand, just like the elected bottom feeders, the average American is pissed, and is not putting up with a lot of crap anymore.

You lefties don't like it, TFB. And count me as one of the average American taxpayers.

There has been, and will continue to be, certain instance of racial/sexual discrimination. And when it really does happen, it's wrong, and it hurts all Americans. But when it comes to crime, every person has a right to defend his/her home, his/her family; so CB, get over it and STFU.

Someone needs to ask Rev. Amos Brown why a member of his church participated in a robbery.

Someone needs to ask Judy Hughes why her son wants to obtain an illegal substance.

Hughes' mother, San Francisco schoolteacher Judy Hughes, said she believes the group didn't intend to rob the family, just buy marijuana. She called the case against her son a "legal lynching."

She's going to say that hoping to buy her son some lee-way from being convicted, thus appearing as the "good parent" who stands by him. How involved was she with his life before he got into buying drugs? I'm guessing she was clueless.

These guys wasted no time in nearly ruining the life of a nineteen-year-old over a marijuana deal, and yet in order to make the judicial system look unfair you still have the typical "racism" chant in an attempt to detract from the real issue. The root cause of this tragic incident needs to also be addressed.

Looks like all here are so used to berating CB for his incisive comments that they neglected to actually read what he said.

CB said he was not interested in defending the actions of the lunatic intrusion into the home of the family whose son said deranged individual beat with a bat. CB said there were "no excuses for the atrocities committed by this deranged individual" anymore than there were any excuses to support the Reverend who wanted to claim that racism was to blame in said incident. CB said that there were no excuses for Hughes atrocities or the Rev supporting him.

CB also said that there was no excuse for a blog entry about said incident in the way it was written other than to provoke racial enmity. Just like nooses are to be regarded as a passe symbolism, mere children's innocous taunts, right? Institutionalized racism...pshaw!!

P.S. disobedience....I meant to type institutionalized racism. That should clear up intent. My typo. I for one am not excusing criminal behavior. You do the crime, you do the time. Still no excuse for the way the blog entry was written.

If this despicable crime had be committed by a white youth on a black family, not only would there be an attempted murder charge along with the robbery burglary and assault charge, the DA would also add a hate crime charge. If the DA did not do that, the feds probably would.

May justice be swift and this sicko gets the life plus 99 years that he deserves. I would rather see this bastard get the needle, but the NCAAP and the race panders would really scream.

Too bad, he did get charged with first degree murder. There is a chance that may happen yet, because if the 19 year old does happen to die; they can still do that. Maybe this the reason that the DA had not decided to do that at this time.

Are you saying nooses are a symbol of hate? If so, I suggest you and most, if not all of the black community ponder on this item. Nooses were used for legal hangings before the US became a country.

They hung horse thief's when the west of this country was being settled. Yes, I can see where the noose may be hated by some people, but it's not a symbol of hate.

Please prove that it is a symbol of hate. Is the guillotine also a symbol of hate. It was a instrument used to rid society of criminals.

CB now refers to himself in the third person. CB has a man crush on himself.
Good thing there are plenty of shiny surfaces at Stuckey's

This just chaps my ass to no end. It's absolutely unacceptable for what Mr. Edmonds did and I hope he learns from this experience. Mr. Edmonds should be ashamed for what he did and he owes it to the community to apologize. I suggest he do the following to redeem himself.

1. Promise NEVER to let a scumbag like Hughes get away again with popping a cap in his ass.

2. Take a tactical home defense class with shotgun, pistol, and folding knife.

3. Weekly practice at the range to sharpen those skills.

4. Apologize to the community for letting a scumbag like Hughes to flee from crime alive.

Get used to it lefty assholes. There are lots of armed law abiding citizens that REFUSE to be victims no matter how hard you try to make everyone a victim.

CB, I obviously don't know your intent, but only how your comment reads to me, typos and all. The same applies to your now critique of the blog post.

You imply the blog post is incendiary in the sentence you quote and then comment on "the truth about institutionalized racism and those who continue to hide behind their transparent white sheets". I apologize, but I still don't see the the line connecting those dots. The blog sentence is sarcastic, but I can see how it connects to the comments in the article, how the minority persons in the article imply the criminal is getting additional crimes piled on, while the victim's father is walking off free. The supporters of the criminal are claiming it is unfair, and implying it is due to his skin color. For those reading the article, it would seem skin color has nothing to do with it, whereas two dead youth and one crippled youth do.

So, in your comment, are you implying the blog has institutionalized racism, or is it the prosecutor's office? And who the hell is hiding behind transparent white sheets?

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Why isn't this Hughes guy brought up on Hate Crime Charges too? It had to be a hate crime. C'mon, 3 black guys breaking into a house in a white neighborhood beating a kid senseless almost killing him (might as well since they pretty much killed his brain).

There had to be pure racist hatred coursing through their veins with each stroke of the bat against the poor guys head.

Where's the hate crime charge? C'mon, you gotta love the double standard.

I guess hate crimes only matter if the victim is queer, transwhatever, or black. How pathetic.

So, Civil behavior, are you saying that no-one is allowed to comment on racial issues without toeing a leftist line?Tell me, which part of the post is untrue or invalid? Which of the statements do you wish to contest, and defend? GO ahead, I'm waiting with baited breath. Show where there is racism and a 'transparent white sheet' - 'with SPECIFIC citations and explanations.

I don't know if this OT or not...

BUT... The last people to accept racial integration was the what?

Oh yeah, that's right, the "Southern Democrats"

At least so I've been told by someone that I trust.

"CB also said that there was no excuse for a blog entry about said incident in the way it was written other than to provoke racial enmity."

The only thing this blog entry provoked was enmity against those who provoke racial enmity.

You're not getting it CB.

Reverend Brown and the NAACP are crying racism.

Hughes' mother conjures up the same emotions by using a term like "legal lynching".

The author and responders here state unequivocally that race should have nothing at all to do with this.

You got problems with racism, then go up against REAL cases of it. Not some manufactured indignation over things which have nothing to do with this particular case.

Three males enter a home at 4am and beat one occupant nearly to death. The homeowner kills two of them. The third is being charged with his share of the responsibility for actions which led to death and destruction. Period. End of story.

Somehow you imagine your own condemnation of Brown and the NAACP makes you different from others here who also condemn them.

For those who seem to want to twist my words let me restate, the crime is abominable. You commit the crime you do the time.

My argument was that the blogger creates even more incendiary attitudes relating to race by saying "Holding each person accountable for his or her own actions, regardless of skin color or gender, is no longer allowed in the progressive and enlightened United States". It's like saying that to dissent against a war is anti-American. Neither are true and both indict others with a broad brush and set a tone that becomes "institutionalized" Yes, the thought becomes incorporated into the system of national thought WITHOUT any regard to antecedent.

Nooses hold more precedent to people of color than to horse thieves (which by the way are extremely prevalent today~snark off) and it is within our power to hold accountable those who use symbolic as well as overt criminality to their just due. Somehow it seems loosely justifiable to hold one to standard justice but the other not so much.

Until we understand our own lack of outrage over one but not the other the cries of racism and anti americanism will be exploited by those seeking to incite for purposes other than social or legal justice. It will be simply for attention rather than for cause. It was that for which I felt this blogger had written this entry. It is for that which I feel is much the same when I read similar blogs that call dissent against this war anti american.

Look to the casus belli in the war or the justification for cries of racism and you might find the reasoning much more nuaanced than you are willing to admit.