PEACE IS PRICELE$$
FREEDOM IS FOUGHT NOT BOUGHT
G is for Giuliani
VOTE for a better tomorrow
INCREASE THE PEACE
PEACE NOW

Bizarre that you believe these to be "liberal" ideals. Conservatives don't want peace? Conservatives don't think freedom is something to fight for? Conservatives don't believe in voting for a candidate who will improve the future? Conservatives don't like Giuliani?

I think you got a little carried away in your holiday "ooh! another angle for bashing liberals!" cheer.

Much as I loath sloganeering, one have to admit that it works. They are marketing what they believe, and doing quite well at it.

Oh, by the way...

I really like the light blue and pink jerseys at ijosha's link, but unless it's a concert tee I avoid clothing with words on it. Thanks for the slogan overkill heads up about Urban Outfitters.

Now you know why the word "blight" is so often associated with "Urban"!

Just sent an e-mail to "Urban Outfitters" referencing the "T-shirt slogans", and praised them on their "class". Then mentioned I would never shop there again. Won't do any good, but I felt better.

A nice one would be "Luck Fiberals". It is doubly funny.

Too be fair, while the great majority of Urban Outfitter's T-Shirts are frankly Left-of-Liberal, I did see a few "Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat. They were cobbled in on shelves full of other T's, but they were there. So perhaps there are a few "fair is fair" sorts at the Urban Outfitters on Rush & Walton in Chicago!

Bizarre that you believe these to be "liberal" ideals.

It's not so much that they're "ideals" as "catchphrases" that mean more than the bare words alone.

"Peace Now" is one perfect case for that. The words seem to just be "hey, let's have peace."

Except...

From Wikipedia:
Peace Now (Hebrew: שלום עכשיו - Shalom Achshav) is a non-governmental organization in Israel with the agenda of "swaying popular opinion and convincing the Israeli government of the need and possibility for achieving a just peace and an historic conciliation with the Palestinian people and neighboring Arab countries; this in exchange for a territorial settlement based on the formula of 'land for peace'."

Bizarre that you believe these to be "liberal" ideals.

It's not so much that they're "ideals" as "catchphrases" that mean more than the bare words alone.
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I think Cassy captured the highest ideal of liberals here

"KILL BABIES, NOT TERRORISTS!"

And the liberal left is working hard to fulfill this ideal.

As far as e-mailing them and telling them that you will never shop there again, they couldn't care less. If you are old enough to be upset by their political statements, you are already out of their demographic. They have the shirts they have because they believe that is what will sell to their demographic this season. They aren't going to try to be fair and balanced, since they figure the balancing slogans aren't going to sell. It's not about politics, it's about selling T-shirts.

I would guess they know what they're doing. Their stock is up roughly 700% since the start of the war.

They have the shirts they have because they believe that is what will sell to their demographic this season.
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Wonder whether this demographic would buy t-shirts with this message.

"KILL BABIES, NOT TERRORISTS!"

If not, probably this demographic would rather see slogans than the truth.

Awwww. Always defending the free market unless a business is successful at selling something you disagree with, and then they're "indoctrinating" youth who are too dumb to think for themselves. They simply have no choice but to wear such t-shirts and "grow up believing them," right? Except of course for your cousin, who was somehow, despite her youth, able to decide that she wasn't interested. I guess it's all other kids who are stupid, right? Or has she already been indoctrinated by you?

Be careful Fantis, Cassy may have a T-Shirt in mind just for you.

No, keep away from me with those mind-controlling T-shirts! The indoctrination rays emanating from them will alter my worldview forever. I am helpless in the face of T-shirt slogans!

Actually, I'm over 30 so I'm probably safe. What is the cutoff age for T-shirt indoctrination effectiveness?

Mantis,
The free market means I can choose what to buy, what NOT to buy. I can also choose to be pi**ed of* when some outfit does something I don't like.
The free market (and freedom itself) allows you to make your comments.
And IMHO, today's youth has no idea what the impact of those "slogans" have on others.

You have just proven that a brain dead democrat will buy anything. Guess it's time to create something to sell them. Wanna bet that 90% of those who created the shirts and slogans are 'in the business for the money', and are not democrats. Ripping the tin foil hat crowd off for $12-20 each is easy.

What, no "Che"?

These kids, like the nutjob lefties, have no clue what their little slogans mean, or would lead to if taken seriously.

So, I don't take them seriously. Or their shirts.

No, keep away from me with those mind-controlling T-shirts! The indoctrination rays emanating from them will alter my worldview forever. I am helpless in the face of T-shirt slogans!
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I have no problems with liberals expounding their highest ideal, "KILL BABIES, NOT TERRORISTS!". Make any T-shirts you want and sell them. Just give the poor people school choice (esp, the inner city kids) so that they don't have to endure the forced indoctrination by the left. BTW, the left loves the market so much that they want to use gov power to shut down talk radio or anyone who disagrees with them.

Wonder whether someone will make T-shirts with this message "KILL BABIES, NOT TERRORISTS!". See how long the students can wear them before they will be banned from university campus.

It's great these stores are exercising their free speech to put out a "positive message".

The next project should be to actually design clothes that do not look like they were ran through a wood chipper or bought of a hobo, before they were put on the shelves

I donno.

I think that the "message" might be about who has the most "disposable" income.

Seriously.

I'm a mom, so my idea of "clothes" is something that can be worn to a variety of functions, school, work, grandma's house...

My daughter might fuss when I insist that I'm NOT paying money for clothes that are torn (hey, didn't this pre-torn fad cycle through when I was in school?) but it's my money and I'm NOT going to buy clothes that can't be worn to school, work, grandma's house...

And I get a bit P.O.'d when a $40 shirt is so thin that the "style" is to wear three of them layered... that's $120. NO! I don't have that sort of cash.

Message T's? I think people buy far more of them than they ever wear. They're practically non-functional half the time. But they're *funny* you know, and people buy them for someone and they get thrown on the floor in the closet as often as not.

So yeah, marketing, selling a lot of t-shirts to a market niche that can afford to buy shirts they can't wear to work *and* school *and* grandma's house.

Young people who do not pay their own rent.

"The next project should be to actually design clothes that do not look like they were ran through a wood chipper or bought of a hobo, before they were put on the shelves."

Chris, LOL! Isn't that the truth?

I will say though, that taken off a hobo and run through a wood chipper is *marginally* better than the slips and teddies for teenage girls of a couple years ago. Egad.

I actually saw one today at the mall that said "Bush isn't MY president". After my initial rolling of my eyes, my only thought was, if you are a citizen of the United States, then yes, Bush IS your president.

Oh brother, will you just LOOK at these T-shirts these days?? Jeez, must be a slow season. Hopefully you guys will have a little more to lament on November 5, 2008.

And if Hillary wins, she will be MY president.

And if Obama wins, he'll be MY president.

When did this "I didn't win so I'm taking my ball and going home!" pissy tantrum stuff get mainstream anyhow?

I'm rather hoping that neither of the first two statements turn out to be true, but if they are, they are.

One of my favorite authors has as a running gag in one of her books, all references to the president (of a colony on another planet), are accompanied by "I didn't vote for him." It was an expression of indifference though, not opposition. No one cared much because it didn't matter much. And it was really funny.

People want me to believe that 8 years of Bush has been *dire*. Other than wishing we weren't in a war that has hardly impacted our daily life in any measurable way whatsoever (we're at the *mall*, remember) I hardly see how these years have been dire. The economy is good. The level of international hostility isn't any worse than it was under Clinton (I *was* overseas under Clinton). The annoying illiberal crap (like not being able to buy Sudafed) isn't something I can attribute to Bush. Since I'm not *invested* in being upset I am mostly bemused by the idea that I ought to be.

I think being upset makes people feel more alive, more vital.

Fills 'em with purpose.

Why is it that only the anti-Bush are allowed to use bumper sticker slogans?

I kinda like "Duck Femocrats".

You libs...
I think you missed the point entirely.

No one said they have no right to sell the shirts. The comments were geared more toward the shirts being idiotic and tasteless. You don't see conservatives with the blatantly obnoxious slogans the liberals come up with. "Buck Fush" is a good common slogan for liberals. It's stupid, the letters are moved around and it implies something else. Liberals LIVE for slogans.

"Give Peace a chance" is a loaded slogan. It implies that we haven't "given peace a chance". It's like the environmental angle the libs take. Who could be against clean water, air and forests? SO let us raise your taxes to make sure that these things are done! by the way, you have to take public transit and make other significant changes to your lifestyle! Back to the peace slogan, Who wouldn't want peace? It also implies that there would be peace if we left Iraq. Quite the opposite, there would be so much violence and bloodshed that the message of "give peace a chance" is absurd.

Who doesn't want peace? A lib would say republicans don't want peace and it was alluded to in some comments by a troll above. Maybe our means of achieving peace are a little different, but in the end at least a war accomplishes peace faster and more sufficiently than apeasement and pandering.

We buy our our gifts during the year mostly at craft fairs, and our local places that sell hand made items (including cool toys for the youngin's)
We pay cash as we gave up credit cards years ago.
Nothing in a mall offends me as I do not go.
Wal-Mart etc hijacked Christmas a long time ago.
Our family and grandchildren have always celebrated the 25th without Santa(there is no Santa in the New Testiment) but with a simple exchange of thoughtful gifts.
Standing in line on "Black Friday" for traditional bait and switch says more about what kind of nation we are than anything in politics.

oh yeah.."It did, however, make me a little sad to think of teenagers walking around with these shirts on, not really understanding the statement they were making."
Why do you believe that teenagers are incapable of understanding these messages?

"You don't see conservatives with the blatantly obnoxious slogans the liberals come up with."

You mean like "you're with us or your against us"? Or "Freedom isn't free"? Or calling Hillary Clinton "Hitlary"? Yea, that's all liberals making up those slogans. Seems that every other con blog has an add for conservative t-shirts, featuring vapid hosebags with liberal hate on their chests.

"Anything war can do, peace can do better."

I disagree, peace can't kill people better or build better weapons.