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Remembering Pearl Harbor

Yesterday, December 7, 1941 -- a date which will live in infamy -- the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan. ... Always will be remembered the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory. ... With confidence in our armed forces -- with the unbounding determination of our people -- we will gain the inevitable triumph -- so help us God.
-- from Franklin D. Roosevelt's December 8, 1941 speech to Congress.

It has been 66 years since the attack on Pearl Harbor, the worst our nation had ever seen.

1,178 wounded.

2,043 dead.

Make sure to stop and thank a WWII veteran today if you see one. Take the time to remember and reflect on the sacrifices the Greatest Generation made to defend their country. Know that we can learn from their example.


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Mitsubishi made the zeros -... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

Mitsubishi made the zeros - I still wont buy a Japanese car!

While you're at it Cassy ta... (Below threshold)
Civil behavior:

While you're at it Cassy take a moment to reflect on what the troops of today are saying about the sacrifices many are saying in Iraq are no longer worth the cost. That is if you really support the troops.

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/timespoll/la-na-militpoll7dec07,0,4843202.story?coll=la-home-center
depp=true
notiz=no medal for you, and only one sheet of toilet paper.

Cool photo. The Bennington ... (Below threshold)
Acelon:

Cool photo. The Bennington was the Carrier that my Dad served on during Vietnam. Granted he would only have been 11 years old at time of this photo. Anyone have an idea where the picture might have come from?

Today the National Park Ser... (Below threshold)
david:

Today the National Park Service is going to dedicate a new memorial at the wreck of the Oklahoma where 400 men perished when the ship rolled over after being torpedoed.

see http://nps.gov

While you're at it... (Below threshold)
While you're at it Cassy take a moment to reflect on what the troops of today are saying about the sacrifices many are saying in Iraq are no longer worth the cost. That is if you really support the troops.

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/timespoll/la-na-militpoll7dec07,0,4843202.story?coll=la-home-center


You know, I'm PRETTY sure I do support the troops. The military is in my family, and I do everything I can to support them. But my support for the troops is not the issue at hand.

What astounds me about your comment is that a post in remembrance of Pearl Harbor does not need to be politicized. But here you are, making an issue out of something just to further your own agenda. Can you not, for one second, put politics aside? Is it that difficult for you? You can't stop thinking about political differences long enough to take a minute to pay tribute to the men and women who sacrificed in WWII and at Pearl Harbor?

Honestly, that disgusts me. You can't rise above such pettiness to pay tribute to one of the most important events in our nation's history. That's really, really sad. I hope you're proud of yourself.

My dad served in two theate... (Below threshold)
Maggie:

My dad served in two theaters in WWII, European
and Pacific.
To them all, we can never thank them enough.

Civil behavior:
I am going to think it over, maybe I'll
disemvowel your crap weasel comment, that is
way out of line, on this thread.

My father's a WW2 vet. He'... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

My father's a WW2 vet. He's 88, living with my mother in an assisted living facility near us. He supports the War in Iraq, the war on radical Islam. He enlisted right after Pearl Harbor, in the Navy. (Oddly enough, on the same day he got his draft notice for the Army. :) He knew which branch HE would rather serve in!)

He keeps up on things, and sees sufficient similarities between Nazism and the Bushido the Japanese practiced with radical Islam to see the fight as one worth fighting, and worth winning.

Maggie - I vote for disemvowelment on CB's comment, if it's something to vote on. It does strike me odd how often his postings bely his name.

JLawson,I considered... (Below threshold)
Maggie:

JLawson,
I considered it all for about 30 seconds.
And send my appreciation to your father for his
service.

And here I was, all excited... (Below threshold)

And here I was, all excited that someone was finally going to disembowel Civil Behavior. Oh, well.

Master Shake Scrol... (Below threshold)
Maggie:

Master Shake

Scroll up.
Sadly though, as I do not have possession of my
my dad's bayonet I was forced to disemvowel,
and not disembowel

I wonder where they're goin... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

I wonder where they're going to put the Oklahoma Memorial. I read they were putting it on Ford Island... but I wonder where. The place that would make the most sense would probably be on the peir next to the Mighty Mo.

Just wondering.

They've had one of the wheels from aux steering from the Oklahoma hanging in the hallway of Pearl Harbor's admin building for quite some time... I wonder if they're going to move that too.

Oh, and thanks for the dise... (Below threshold)
ExSubNuke:

Oh, and thanks for the disemvowelment.

Civil Behavior clearly needed it.

You cannot thank and suppor... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

You cannot thank and support the military enough. They are not petty like CB. They are clear and concise in why they do what they do. God Bless them all. ww

"I am a United State... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:


"I am a United States Sailor. I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and obey the orders of those appointed over me. I represent the fighting spirit of the Navy and those who have gone before me to defend freedom and democracy around the world. I proudly serve my country's Navy combat team with Honor, Courage, and Commitment. I am committed to excellence and the fair treat meant of all."

This is said at retirement I have always loved this speech and changed the end for my shipmate and Marines who have served and given there lives since 1775.

These SAILOR STOOD THE WATCH
WHILE SOME OF US WERE IN OUR BUNKS AT NIGHT THIS SAILOR STOOD THE WATCH  

WHILE SOME OF US WERE IN SCHOOL LEARNING OUR TRADE, THeSe SHIPMATES STOOD THE WATCH 

YES, EVEN BEFORE SOME OF US WERE BORN INTO THIS WORLD These SHIPMATE STOOD THE WATCH 

N THOSE YEARS WHEN THE STORM CLOUDS OF WAR WERE SEEN         BREWING ON THE HORIZON OF HISTORY
These SHIPMATE STOOD THE WATCH 

 MANY TIMES THEY WOULD CAST AN EYE ASHORE AND SEE Thier
FAMILY STANDING THERE ... NEEDING HIS GUIDANCE AND
HELP...NEEDING THAT HAND TO HOLD DURING THOSE HARD
TIMES ... BUT THEY STILL STOOD THE WATCH 
 THEY STOOD THE WATCH SO THAT WE , OUR FAMILIES, AND OUR
 FELLOW COUNTRYMEN COULD SLEEP SOUNDLY IN SAFETY EACH
 AND EVERY NIGHT KNOWING THAT A SAILOR STOOD THE WATCH 
 TODAY WE ARE HERE TO SAY "SHIPMATE, THE WATCH STANDS
RELIEVED.  RELIEVED BY THOSE YOU HAVE LED, GUIDED, AND
 TRAINED and died to Defend.

Kilo Pier, which is part of... (Below threshold)
David:

Kilo Pier, which is part of the Naval Port.

CassyThanks for the ... (Below threshold)

Cassy
Thanks for the post honoring The Greatest Generation (my late father was one of them). I've never seen that photo before but, as #3 mentioned, the story behind it might make for an interesting topic.

You know cb, you are a rath... (Below threshold)
David:

You know cb, you are a rather sad human. I will never follow one of his pathetic links, because they are irelavent to the discussion at hand. Frankly cb is far too stupid to argue intelligently. So stupid links to, well stupidity and clains it is gold, dispite the fact it is irrellevant. As a proagandist cb is inefective in the extemme. But I suspect he just wants to feel superior. Night I suggest that you studied a far better propandgadist for you view, Joseph Geobels

Ok cb. You are superior, not that I believe this or care. You win, now go away, you worthless mindless automaton.

Whatza... (Below threshold)
Civil behavior:


Whatzamatter Wizbangers......does the thought that there are people in America who are seeing the light of the new millinium that has now been upon us for seven years who desire less nationalism through militarism and more universality of approach bother you?

Is that the way you see democracy? Disemvoweling them?

Sad is hardly the word for it. It's time to evolve beyond how we used to solve naked power grabs and atrocities. It's time to waken to a more civilized approach. That includes not allowing your present day government to operate secretively given that you have more power today to know and discover the circumstances of those operations.

In fact the majority of the very people you claim to support are saying so. (see link, or for many of you who refuse to see the link it oly proves one thing). It includes respecting the wishes of the only Americans who are sacrificing for this travesty by bringing them back to their families and finding better ways than exploiting others for our basic needs.

It means you'd have to quit using death as a way of perpetuating more death. It means you'd have to find many new ways of sacrificing in your everyday lives in order for this country not to have to occupy other sovereign lands for securing their resources for future use.

So disemvowel away. It's your last resort.

So disemvowel away... (Below threshold)
Maggie:
So disemvowel away. It's your last resort.

No. You don't learn. This thread is dedicated to
a part of our documented history. And you couldn't
and apparently won't honour it.
You are dishonourable in your behaviour.
As to the ultimate rule of Wizbang, it will never
be in your control. So get over it.

CB -There is no ri... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

CB -

There is no right in civil society to float a turd in a punchbowl. People who do such things are not exactly highly respected, except among their fellow cretins who practice such 'civil behavior'.

This was not the thread for such behavior. Try, please, to live up to the actuality if not the spirit of your name.

Pearl Harbor unfortunately ... (Below threshold)

Pearl Harbor unfortunately became the greatest attack on our military by a foreign power. And 9/11 became our greatest attack on civilians by foreign terrorists. But America still did the greatest harm to our own citizens, both soldiers and civilians during the American Civil War by far, and yet no tragic holiday or event really remembers that sad event.

"It's time to evolve bey... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

"It's time to evolve beyond how we used to solve naked power grabs and atrocities."

No, man. It's time for you to just f**k off as fast as you can or stick to the topic of the thread. In case you need a reminder, this post is to honor the Military and their sacrifices. Who are you trying to fool? You don't even care about Democracy, only a chance to post another immature and snide remark.

"......does the thought that there are people in America who are seeing the light of the new millinium that has now been upon us for seven years who desire less nationalism through militarism and more universality of approach bother you?"

You are not a vanguard of this message. Stop kidding yourself. The fact that you only bring disdain to this comment section with your O/T blather should be a strong enough clue for you, but you'll never get the real message you pretend to be bringing.

Whatzamatter Wizba... (Below threshold)
Whatzamatter Wizbangers......does the thought that there are people in America who are seeing the light of the new millinium that has now been upon us for seven years who desire less nationalism through militarism and more universality of approach bother you?

Is that the way you see democracy? Disemvoweling them?

Sad is hardly the word for it. It's time to evolve beyond how we used to solve naked power grabs and atrocities. It's time to waken to a more civilized approach. That includes not allowing your present day government to operate secretively given that you have more power today to know and discover the circumstances of those operations.

In fact the majority of the very people you claim to support are saying so. (see link, or for many of you who refuse to see the link it oly proves one thing). It includes respecting the wishes of the only Americans who are sacrificing for this travesty by bringing them back to their families and finding better ways than exploiting others for our basic needs.

It means you'd have to quit using death as a way of perpetuating more death. It means you'd have to find many new ways of sacrificing in your everyday lives in order for this country not to have to occupy other sovereign lands for securing their resources for future use.

So disemvowel away. It's your last resort.


No, CB, YOU. JUST. DON'T. GET. IT.

No one is necessarily debating your POV here.

What is pissing everyone off here is that you are hijacking a thread and politicizing it when there is NO NEED for that. This post was made in remembrance of a significant event in our nation's history, something that changed our country forever. Why is it that you are so incapable of putting your agenda aside for one second to pay tribute to that?

That's why everyone here is so disgusted by you. That is what is so damn pathetic and sad. You need to get the hell over yourself and realize that not everything needs to fit into your stupid little agenda. This entire country does not need to be divided on every single issue, although apparently people like you are set on making it that way. There are times when it is ok to stand together, especially in remembrance of something like Pearl Harbor. That is what is so sad -- that people like you cannot fathom putting the agenda aside for one minute to remember this moment in our history. It's sad, it's immature, it's pathetic, and it's disgusting.

DROP IT, and try to grow the hell up.

Acelon: It is an official ... (Below threshold)
Mikey NTH:

Acelon: It is an official US Navy photograph. If you search the names of US Navy warships you will find a link to official navy photographs.

Here's a link to the navy page with that photo.
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-b/cv20.htm

Hooson, Memorial Day is a A... (Below threshold)
SPQR:

Hooson, Memorial Day is a American Civil War remembrance.

Civil Behavior,You... (Below threshold)
SPQR:

Civil Behavior,

Your juvenile conduct and sophomoric thought got old long ago.

cb:you betray your... (Below threshold)

cb:

you betray your chosen nom de plume. I give you a simple choice: take it to another thread, or take it to another site.

If you do not choose the former, I am prepared to assist you in following the latter.

This is a place for remembering and honoring those who suffered 67 years ago. You will NOT piss on their graves.

J.

To memorialize the d... (Below threshold)
Civil behavior:


To memorialize the deaths of these men without ever recognizing the sins of leaders who's govt placed them in territories where these men died so needlessly is wrong?

To question the morality of a nation that allows using death to continue a program of influencing the emotions and manipulating attitudes for continuing militarism is wrong?

This is not about me at all. This is about the continued use of hyping death as some sort of necessary tool in order to combat the evils of the world.

The myth is that war is some sort of odyssey. You want me to commune with you, accept the necessity of organized killing and travel down the path of defining this country as good and just for wars spent treasure.

Its' very apparent that you interpret my critique of the deaths of men in war as a cynical ploy to draw attention to myself. You couldn't be more wrong.

It is a reaction to injustice. The kind of injustice that our own nation has been so adept at creating a structure where the authorities prefer we not understand any of this.

You'd prefer to pay tribute without asking why. I happen to feel that in order to pay tribute we must ask why.

No, cb, I had hoped that yo... (Below threshold)

No, cb, I had hoped that you would spare this single thread, about remembering those who suffered so much and served so valiantly almost seven decades ago, would be safe from your blathering. I had hoped that you would show at least a modicum of respect for history.

Instead, you are history.

Have fun somewhere else, 'cuz you won't be having it here any more.

J.

SPQR, You're absolutely rig... (Below threshold)

SPQR, You're absolutely right about Memorial Day. Some wives of dead soldiers honored fallen men on both sides of the conflict by putting flowers on their graves. However, there is almost no mention of the Civil War these days, only recent wars or events like 9/11 seem to be recalled publicly by the President or most others. That's what bothers me. America inflicted more damage on itself than any foreign enemy had ever done.

Paul -Perhaps the ... (Below threshold)

Paul -

Perhaps the healing is finished - and nobody wants to reopen the old wound. What would be the point of regularly bringing up the Civil War, aside from reminding one geographic area how badly it was beaten by the other? Yeah, let's do that and make sure everyone knows which side won and which side lost, and the numbers of dead on both sides. I'm sure it wouldn't cause any hard feelings - especially in the South.

God knows, there's plenty of people who want to divide the country along political or racial lines. I think, however, we've already realized what comes of that - and will avoid it at all costs a second time. So why would you feel a need to reignite the divisive feelings?

You celebrate birthdays - not the times you almost got killed.




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