I can't vouch for the veracity of this account, but it has the "feel" of being real. I can very easily understand how a trusted colleague can suddenly become a bit more suspicious-looking if they started openly carrying a gun.
But that trust and faith can return with interest when a real threat materializes. That's when Bob, the scary guy with the gun, becomes Bob the defender of the innocent.
I don't have any hard stats on the matter, but it seems to me that most (if not all) of the recent massacres have been committed by people who were not licensed to carry guns, and not with their own registered guns. The Columbine killers stole their guns. I can't find the links at hand, but I recall reading that the Omaha mall shooter also stole his guns, and the DC snipers stole their rifle. For the most part, the shooting rampages are not carried out by licensed gun-owners with their own guns.
It all boils down to how well do we trust our fellow citizens -- or if we would rather disarm the law-abiding ones in the hopes that we'll also disarm the dangerous ones, who are already set on breaking far more serious laws.




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If I recall, a few communit... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Rovin
| December 16, 2007 10:11 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
If I recall, a few communities that required all citizens to own a firearm (except felons) their crime rates fell dramatically. While I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with some one that had no training in handling a weapon, when law inforcement is limited, an armed criminal may think twice about committing a crime if they thought 70% of the citizens were armed. Gun control is a joke unless law enforcement starts putting criminals (that commit crimes with guns)into longterm mandatory prison sentences.
1. Posted by Rovin
| December 16, 2007 10:11 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on December 16, 2007 10:11
2. Posted by WildWillie | December 16, 2007 10:47 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
I have weapons and so do a lot of my friends. They are responsible hard working individuals and I trust them completely. Unlike some, I have no illusion that the cops can protect me. They always show up AFTER a crime has been committed. ww
2. Posted by WildWillie | December 16, 2007 10:47 AM |
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Posted on December 16, 2007 10:47
3. Posted by Sultanofsham | December 16, 2007 12:24 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Yes the scumbag in Omaha stole the ak-47 from his step-dad. I think the city prosecutor is looking for something to charge him with, if they can find anything.
3. Posted by Sultanofsham | December 16, 2007 12:24 PM |
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Posted on December 16, 2007 12:24
4. Posted by jefferson101 | December 16, 2007 2:20 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Although I completely agree with the contentions of the linked article, I have one issue with Jay Tea's comments on it. (Be it noted that this isn't the only time I've seen it expressed that way, either.)
In three paragraphs, the term "licensed" is used twice, and "registered" once. Not to pick a whole pile of fly-dung out of the pepper here, but in most States, unless you are talking about carrying concealed, there is no "license" or "registration" involved in firearm ownership. I, and most of the people I know, own firearms. Other than those who have CCW permits, none of those firearms are licensed or registered to us in any way.
Which is the way the 2nd Amendment mandates it, IMO. I would be as opposed to licensing or registration of my firearms as I would be to banning them outright, as would most of us.
So, to put it simply: "Where, exactly, is all this emphasis on that sort of thing coming from, and what is is supposed to mean, exactly?"
4. Posted by jefferson101 | December 16, 2007 2:20 PM |
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Posted on December 16, 2007 14:20
5. Posted by Matt | December 16, 2007 8:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
jefferson101,
I would suggest that anyone that has a firearm purchased through a licensed dealer has a firearm that is defacto registered. When purchased a record was made of which firearm, by make, model, caliber and serial number and linked to your name and address. Registered. The forms are kept with the dealer until requested by the BATF-E or when the dealer goes out of busines, when the forms are supposed to be sent to the BATF-E. Registered. The transaction of purchasing a firearm is also recorded through the current background check system. The request for permission to purchase isn't supposed to be stored for more than 72 hours, but I don't trust the governemnt to tell the truth about it. The transaction is registered.
I have lived around people lawfully carrying arms most of my life, and all of my adult life. It doesn't bother me at all. I am less concerned about a citizen carrying a firearm openly than a police officer carrying a gun or a taser. The Police have become wildly unpredictable and mostly unaccountable in our current society.
5. Posted by Matt | December 16, 2007 8:19 PM |
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Posted on December 16, 2007 20:19
6. Posted by Kieth | December 16, 2007 8:26 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Here in Washington State, the DC sniper was reported to have purchased the "Bushmaster" (I believe) from a Bellingham dealer. I don't think the purchase of the rifle met all the federal standards for such a transaction, but I don't believe it was stolen.
6. Posted by Kieth | December 16, 2007 8:26 PM |
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Posted on December 16, 2007 20:26
7. Posted by SPQR | December 17, 2007 12:50 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Kieth, the dealer in question could not account for the sale of the firearm if memory serves, and asserted that it was stolen. The dealer was in fact unable to account for hundreds of firearms.
7. Posted by SPQR | December 17, 2007 12:50 AM |
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Posted on December 17, 2007 00:50
8. Posted by D-Hoggs | December 17, 2007 9:41 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The VT shooter owned his guns.
8. Posted by D-Hoggs | December 17, 2007 9:41 AM |
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Posted on December 17, 2007 09:41