Today we have a leftist nut writing at the Baltimore Chronicle and Sentinel who says that global warming will cause flooding in vast amounts of "red" states, depopulating those areas of evil conservatives. That, he says, is global warming's silver lining:
The area that will by completely inundated by the rising ocean--and not in a century but in the lifetime of my two cats--are the American southeast, including the most populated area of Texas, almost all of Florida, most of Louisiana, and half of Alabama and Mississippi, as well as goodly portions of eastern Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina. While the northeast will also see some coastal flooding, its geography is such that that aside from a few projecting sandbars like Long Island and Cape Cod, the land rises fairly quickly to well above sea level. Sure, Boston, New York and Philadelphia will be threatened, but these are geographically confined areas that could lend themselves to protection by Dutch-style dikes. The West Coast too tends to rise rapidly to well above sea level in most places. Only down in Southern California towards the San Diego area is the ground closer to sea level.So what we see is that huge swaths of conservative America are set to face a biblical deluge in a few more presidential cycles.
Then there's the matter of the Midwest, which climate experts say is likely to face a permanent condition of unprecedented drought, making the place largely unlivable, and certainly unfarmable. The agribusinesses and conservative farmers that have been growing corn and wheat may be able to stretch out this doomsday scenario by deep well drilling, but west of the Mississippi, the vast Ogallala Aquifer that has allowed for such irrigation is already being tapped out. It will not be replaced.
So again, we will see the decline and depopulation of the nation's vast midsection--noted for its consistent conservatism. Only in the northernmost area, around the Great Lakes (which will be not so great anymore), and along the Canadian border, will there still be enough rain for farming and continued large population concentrations, but those regions, like Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois, are also more liberal in their politics.
Finally, in the Southwest, already parched and stiflingly hot, the rise in energy costs and the soaring temperatures will put an end to right-wing retirement communities like Phoenix, Tucson and Palm Springs. Already the Salton Sea is fading away and putting Palm Springs on notice that the good times are coming to an end. Another right-wing haven soon to be gone.
So the future political map of America is likely to look as different as the much shrunken geographical map, with much of the so-called "red" state region either gone or depopulated.
There is a poetic justice to this of course. It is conservatives who are giving us the candidates who steadfastly refuse to have the nation take steps that could slow the pace of climate change, so it is appropriate that they should bear the brunt of its impact.
Too bad this guy's hopes will be dashed when the earth's warming trend retreats and moves into a cooling cycle as it did in the seventies. Then he'll probably write about how the silver lining of the coming ice age is that it will freeze out the red state conservatives who won't take up the cause of global cooling.
Comments (39)
I don't suppose it occurred... (Below threshold)1. Posted by SATerp | December 27, 2007 2:28 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
I don't suppose it occurred to that moron, that, if he were correct, the conservatives would move to the blue states, taking them over?
1. Posted by SATerp | December 27, 2007 2:28 PM |
Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 14:28
2. Posted by J.R. | December 27, 2007 2:44 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
SAT, what a valid point. It apparently escapes this mental midget that people will move away from the rising waters as they rise. Of course I do not believe such a thing is going to happen, but this guy seems to think the waters will rise in one big wave as in "the Day After Tomorrow."
2. Posted by J.R. | December 27, 2007 2:44 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 14:44
3. Posted by Liberal Nitemare | December 27, 2007 2:58 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Whats the point of being a liberal if you cant punish people for disagreeing with you?
3. Posted by Liberal Nitemare | December 27, 2007 2:58 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 14:58
4. Posted by Robert | December 27, 2007 3:04 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
But the most liberal footholds are on the coast. NYCity, LA, Sanfransciso, Seattle. It seems to me most of them would not life a finger to save themselves waiting instead for the wet nurse government to save them.
4. Posted by Robert | December 27, 2007 3:04 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 15:04
5. Posted by WildWillie | December 27, 2007 3:09 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Just when I think liberals cannot get any more stupid... ww
5. Posted by WildWillie | December 27, 2007 3:09 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 15:09
6. Posted by Pretzel_Logic | December 27, 2007 3:28 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Its an amazing video(bottom of the piece) really, watching these people. The guy talked and talked and really didnt say anything except Bush and Cheney need to be impeached.
6. Posted by Pretzel_Logic | December 27, 2007 3:28 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 15:28
7. Posted by marc | December 27, 2007 3:35 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Robert
Gee... 1964 revisited!Goodby all you Red Staters!
7. Posted by marc | December 27, 2007 3:35 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 15:35
8. Posted by Vegas Vic | December 27, 2007 3:46 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Owning Property in both Las Vegas and Florida, it looks like I'm really in trouble. However thanks to the Baltimore Chronicle and Sentinel and Mr. Dave "loopy" Lindorff, I know now the place the buy property is BALTIMORE! Can you say Howdy Neighbor, where's the closest Wal-Mart!
8. Posted by Vegas Vic | December 27, 2007 3:46 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 15:46
9. Posted by Spurwing Plover | December 27, 2007 3:49 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
According to the gren nut wackos the earth will look like it did in that stupid movie WATERWORLD with KEVIN KOSNER swimming around looking like a complete dork WHAT A BUNCH OF TWITS
9. Posted by Spurwing Plover | December 27, 2007 3:49 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 15:49
10. Posted by Wanderlust | December 27, 2007 4:02 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Yes, and we know how good that movie was...
10. Posted by Wanderlust | December 27, 2007 4:02 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 16:02
11. Posted by Mycroft | December 27, 2007 4:09 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Speaking as one who lives on semi high ground in FL, I'll believe it when the waves come lapping at my door.
In the meantime, 1998 marked the high water point and temps have been dropping ever since. So to the author of the original piece, go peddle your papers somewhere else.
11. Posted by Mycroft | December 27, 2007 4:09 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 16:09
12. Posted by Eric | December 27, 2007 4:36 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
SATerp
Actually, it did occur to him. And that is the scariest thing of all about his diatribe. His solution is of course to deny people the right to vote.
12. Posted by Eric | December 27, 2007 4:36 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 16:36
13. Posted by Falze | December 27, 2007 4:43 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Quick! Get this man some sort of journalistic award!
13. Posted by Falze | December 27, 2007 4:43 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 16:43
14. Posted by Michael | December 27, 2007 4:44 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Any comments Jp2, nogo, Brian, BarneyMoron, Herman, etc...?
I didn't think so.
14. Posted by Michael | December 27, 2007 4:44 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 16:44
15. Posted by langtry | December 27, 2007 4:55 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Eric: The ugliness of that second paragraph, and especially the part you higlighted, is really astonishing. The arrogance and tyranical glee practically drips off the page!
15. Posted by langtry | December 27, 2007 4:55 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 16:55
16. Posted by Brian | December 27, 2007 5:13 PM | Score: 0 (6 votes cast)
Any comments Jp2, nogo, Brian, BarneyMoron, Herman, etc...?
Sure, if you insist...
It's a stupid column.
Anything else?
16. Posted by Brian | December 27, 2007 5:13 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 17:13
17. Posted by LaMedusa | December 27, 2007 5:26 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Not only does he make this "scientific" assessment without any sources, he's pronounced the event as a "biblical deluge" that suggests a cleansing of his imagined enemy. I'd say Clown College is missing a star pupil. This is just as bad as those that said Hurricane Katrina was an act of God against liberals. Another extremist shooting for that Nobel "piece" Prize.
17. Posted by LaMedusa | December 27, 2007 5:26 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 17:26
18. Posted by Michael | December 27, 2007 5:41 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
Well given all your idiotic blithering in the past, I was curious how you felt about...that all.
18. Posted by Michael | December 27, 2007 5:41 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 17:41
19. Posted by marc | December 27, 2007 5:52 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Falze - "Quick! Get this man some sort of journalistic award!"
Too late! According to his bio he's already an "award-winning journalist," and a "two-time Journalism Fulbright Scholar."
And how shocking (in a Capt. Renault sense) is the co-author of The Case for Impeachment
19. Posted by marc | December 27, 2007 5:52 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 17:52
20. Posted by Mac Lorry | December 27, 2007 5:55 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
The operative term in the first sentence of Kim's piece is "leftist nut". At the heart of the global warming movement, for lack of a better term, are the goals of redistribution of wealth, destroying the preeminence of the U.S., and bringing about an environmental utopia. Lindorff is angry that conservatives are not falling for the IPCC's junk science, which would go a long way in bring about the global warming movement's goals. His piece is just sour grapes.
Once it's obvious that we have entered the cooling phase of the climate oscillation, the likes of Lindorff and Gore will simply form the global cooling movement with the same goals as the global warming movement. The goals don't change, just the vehicle to bring them to fruition.
20. Posted by Mac Lorry | December 27, 2007 5:55 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 17:55
21. Posted by John S | December 27, 2007 6:01 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
"Actually, it did occur to him. And that is the scariest thing of all about his diatribe. His solution is of course to deny people the right to vote."
Someone tell this stupid shit that we citizens of the "red states" still have our guns. :)
So this blithering idiot thinks 20% of the United States will be underwater in 20 years. Too bad for him the earth has been on a slight cooling trend since 1997. (Have you noticed they now call it "Climate Change" and not "Global Warming.) And the Greenland icecap actually has beem increasing in size since 2003. The amount of heat needed to melt the polar caps in 20 years also would boil the oceans dry. So I doubt Florida will be underwater anytime soon.
21. Posted by John S | December 27, 2007 6:01 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 18:01
22. Posted by David | December 27, 2007 6:13 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
If the entire northern icecap melted sea level wouldn't change. it is already taken into account as it floats. And yes, today's yearly averaged temperature is lower today than it was 10 years ago.
It has been asked here before (by others and myself), exactly what is the "ideal" average yearly temperature?
22. Posted by David | December 27, 2007 6:13 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 18:13
23. Posted by Scrapiron | December 27, 2007 6:31 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
The Red staters can depopulate the earth of Blue stater simply by witholding all food supplies that 'we grow'. Starvation would set in next week. Most of them have the mentality of the lady in NYC a few years ago that replied when ask what the government should do for the dairy farmers, "I don't care what happens to the dairy farmers, I get my milk at the grocery store". They can always masturbate the dog to feed the cat.
23. Posted by Scrapiron | December 27, 2007 6:31 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 18:31
24. Posted by stan25
| December 27, 2007 7:14 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
As usual, an idiot liberal eastern city dweller that does not have a clue as to the way most of us live here in the west and mid west. The Eastern liberal establishment has declared war on the West and will do anything to denigrate the way we live out here. They couldn't shut down the agriculture or mining by passing asinine regulations, so they came up with the idiot theory of Global Warming. Well that dog is not gonna hunt either.
24. Posted by stan25
| December 27, 2007 7:14 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 19:14
25. Posted by Eric | December 27, 2007 7:30 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Red States, Blue States, Soylent Green States.
25. Posted by Eric | December 27, 2007 7:30 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 19:30
26. Posted by wavemaker | December 27, 2007 8:01 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
LOL Scrapiron, great comment.
No more Bud Light served to the likes of Jim Lampley!!
26. Posted by wavemaker | December 27, 2007 8:01 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 20:01
27. Posted by SPQR | December 27, 2007 9:29 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Recently someone claimed that Al Gore's exaggerations and misrepresentations in his film were not harmful. But this silly piece shows that there are people who are unfortunately believing Al Gore's ludicrous exaggerations of the AGW argument.
27. Posted by SPQR | December 27, 2007 9:29 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 21:29
28. Posted by DaveH | December 27, 2007 9:35 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
It is somewhat reminiscent of the California/earthquake/liberal association. The only difference is that this guy seems serious!
28. Posted by DaveH | December 27, 2007 9:35 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 21:35
29. Posted by vnjagvet
| December 27, 2007 9:56 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
The scariest thing about the article is that it is highly likely it is not satire.
That would make the author one nasty person who makes fundamentalist zealotry seem benign in comparison.
29. Posted by vnjagvet
| December 27, 2007 9:56 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on December 27, 2007 21:56
30. Posted by Baggi | December 27, 2007 10:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is probably some dummy who thinks that people actually care about what he has to say. So in his mind, he's saying it because he thinks, "They'll get scared, real scared, and then they'll support Global Warming initiatives to save their own arse!"
This person is probably as delusional as the rest of the libs out there who think they are influential and clever.
30. Posted by Baggi | December 27, 2007 10:38 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 22:38
31. Posted by Synova | December 27, 2007 11:41 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Forgive me please, but I fail to see how putting vast stretches of the continent under water will result in the rest of it turning to desert. Doesn't more surface area mean more evaporated water which means more water in the atmosphere? Maybe it won't all fall in the same areas as present but it's going to fall *somewhere*
I also do not see any reason at all to think that refugees from the flooded South East or coastal Texas will head to blue states. No one is that stupid. In the situation this idiot imagines cities will be nearly unlivable and only a complete moron would head toward one.
31. Posted by Synova | December 27, 2007 11:41 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 23:41
32. Posted by North Country | December 27, 2007 11:43 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Wow what a stupid article....and I'm a global warming believer!
Anyone who spends time outdoors in the north country can see the changes with his own two eyes and doesn't need Al Gore to tell him or her things are very different.
We are all in this together, this whole liberal vs conservative thing means nothing to the climate.
I wish both sides of the isle would learn the difference between weather and climate, it might make the changes were are witnesing easier to understand.
PS.
Where is this idea that the earth is now cooling coming from? I would really like to see a link to a peer reviewed scientific study showing this trend.
32. Posted by North Country | December 27, 2007 11:43 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 23:43
33. Posted by Synova | December 27, 2007 11:46 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Oh, who joked about Water World?
If the whole South East got covered with shallow sea water it would likely be an extremely rich environment for life... like the Caribbean on steroids or the Louisiana Bayous. People can live in those environments with a little adaptation. People already live on houseboats and put their houses on stilts.
I think the author gloats about desperate refugees far too soon.
33. Posted by Synova | December 27, 2007 11:46 PM |
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Posted on December 27, 2007 23:46
34. Posted by waveman | December 28, 2007 12:25 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Whilst you are over there at the Baltimore Chronicle and Sentinel, poke around for a few minutes if you can stand it. This sort of bilge is not the exception, it's the rule. A leftist's wet dream!
How someone can stand to go through life with such an outlook escapes me. I'd kill myself first.
34. Posted by waveman | December 28, 2007 12:25 AM |
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Posted on December 28, 2007 00:25
35. Posted by Oyster | December 28, 2007 7:29 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
"...but we need to keep a firm grip on our political systems, making sure that these guilty throngs who allowed the world to go to hell are gerrymandered into political impotence in their new homes."
So, what is he suggesting? That in his little fantasy scenario each suspected conservative "refugee" be interviewed, deemed guilty of thought crimes, have their rights stripped of them?
That's what always kills me about these kooks. They're quick to sling out the fascist labels and then suggest something so, well, fascist.
I thought - Okay, so they have one kook on staff. What paper doesn't? Then I read the left column of news sections:
Local News & Opinion
Health & Environment
US News Media
US Politics, Policy & Culture
US "High Crimes" & Incompetence
35. Posted by Oyster | December 28, 2007 7:29 AM |
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Posted on December 28, 2007 07:29
36. Posted by LaMedusa | December 28, 2007 3:47 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
"Where is the idea that the earth is now cooling from?"
From the U.S. National Climate Data Center.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658580/posts
36. Posted by LaMedusa | December 28, 2007 3:47 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2007 15:47
37. Posted by LaMedusa | December 28, 2007 5:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Here is another link to the info in case the Free Republic site is down.
"Bob Carter, a paleoclimatologist from Australia, notes that the earth also had strong global warming between 1918 and 1940. Then there was a long cooling period from 1940 to 1965. He points out that the current warming started 50 years before cars and industries began spewing consequential amounts of CO2. Then the planet cooled for 35 years just after the CO2 levels really began to surge. In fact, says Carter, there doesn't seem to be much correlation between temperatures and man-made CO2."
37. Posted by LaMedusa | December 28, 2007 5:13 PM |