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Screw You, Al Gore, And Your Oscar, And Your Nobel Peace Prize

You'd think between global warming and all the politicians dumping hot air into the state, you would expect that New Hampshire would have had a milder than normal winter.

Wrong.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have about four inches of partly cloudy to clear off of Mongo, my old, beat-up Ford Explorer...

(Emmy changed to Oscar in title. Thanks, DCE.)


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No no no Jay, get it right.... (Below threshold)

No no no Jay, get it right.

The proper terms is 'climate change', not global warming.

You see, if the entire world is not a uniform 70 degrees everywhere, all the time, it is obviously a manmade problem caused by greedy capitalists.

Climate would never, ever change on its own.

Jay, it was an Oscar, not a... (Below threshold)
DCE:

Jay, it was an Oscar, not an Emmy.

And he can still go screw himself....

Someone please tell me this... (Below threshold)
marc:

Someone please tell me this is the first hoax news story of the new year.

One the other hand, don't tell me. It's better to think, as improbable as it is, the the NYT is actually printing something closely related to the truth about the Carny Barkers of Climate Change .

That's okay, Jay. algore h... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

That's okay, Jay. algore has several miles of dense fog to clear from his reality vehicle, and I'm it'll take at least a lifetime. That's cute that your suv has a name. :)

I hate to break this to you... (Below threshold)
North Country:

I hate to break this to you Jay....it sometimes snows during winter in North America.

Here is a link for all you GW doubters to make you fell better about being on the wrong side of this issue.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=505435&in_page_id=1770

Ha ha ... coldest december ... (Below threshold)
914:

Ha ha ... coldest december in 20 years in Mn.. talk about North Country reality, i've lived in it fo 40 plus years and no it is not getting warmer.

North Country -I'm... (Below threshold)

North Country -

I'm a believer in anthropogenic global warming. And I also think it's a damn good thing - if you look at the data presented in this article, you'll see that we should be about 5 thousand years into a good, heavy, solid ice age. (Graphs A&B, Figure 1, page 3.)

You might want that. AlGore might want that. I doubt seriously the folks in Europe or Asia or Canada would want that.

Besides, friend, answer me this.

What's the friggin' temperature that the world is SUPPOSED to maintaining, and how friggin' far off it are we? Because it's not enough for me and a whole lot of people to be told the planet's thermostat's too high - you need to tell me what temperature you're shooting for, and how you intend to deal with the consequences of getting it there. You think we should be in the middle of an ice age? Because if it wasn't for man-caused global warming, you'd be playin' with the penguins and polar bears.

To repeat - I do not doubt global warming. I think it's a damn good thing. I also think the supposed 'remedy' for the condition will be a hell of a lot worse than the disease.

I too accept that climate c... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

I too accept that climate change does occur. But the only man made warming that has been conclusively documented occurs wherever Al is giving a speech. Causative or merely correlative? You decide.

"I hate to break this to yo... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

"I hate to break this to you Jay....it sometimes snows during winter in North America."

North Country, as the others above stated, the existence of Global Warming is not the issue. Man made intervention, good or bad, is what algore is all about. There has been no proven significant effect by man at all:

"Bob Carter, a paleoclimatologist from Australia, notes that the earth also had strong global warming between 1918 and 1940. Then there was a long cooling period from 1940 to 1965. He points out that the current warming started 50 years before cars and industries began spewing consequential amounts of CO2. Then the planet cooled for 35 years just after the CO2 levels really began to surge. In fact, says Carter, there doesn't seem to be much correlation between temperatures and man-made CO2."

LaMedusa,Are you tal... (Below threshold)
North Country:

LaMedusa,
Are you talking about this Bob "ExxonMobile" Carter? If so nice try but no prize.

http://www.desmogblog.com/rm-bob-carter

Should the temperature of e... (Below threshold)
Biggyrat:

Should the temperature of earth be a little cooler, or a little warmer? Well, for the record, we here in the Goldilocks camp think it should be "just right".

914,Have you checked... (Below threshold)
North Country:

914,
Have you checked out the weather forcast for St. Paul this weekend?
Temperatures above freezing the first week of January in MN?
Anyway it's not about weather changes it's about Global Climate change, there is a difference.

Nothing is about global war... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Nothing is about global warming or climate change. It's all about money and lots of money. Algorbage pockets $100 million + - in seven years and the so called experts have to have a gimmick to get the multi-million dollar grants, right out of your pocket. I'll bet the U.S. taxpayer footed 90% of the cost of the farce they held in Bali. Get real, it's simply a large con game.

North Country-"... (Below threshold)
LaMedusa:

North Country-

"LaMedusa,
Are you talking about this Bob "ExxonMobile" Carter? If so nice try but no prize."

Elaborate, please. Bob Carter is also a "paleoclimatologist from Australia". We are also talking about the author of the article, Dennis Avery, who is a senior fellow for Hudson Institute in Washington, DC and the Director for Global Food Issues (www.cgfi.org). The actual source is from U.S. National Climate Data Center,

"The official thermometers at the U.S. National Climate Data Center show a slight global cooling trend over the last seven years, from 1998 to 2005.

Actually, global warming is likely to continue--but the interruption of the recent strong warming trend sharply undercuts the argument that our global warming is an urgent, man-made emergency. The seven-year decline makes our warming look much more like the moderate, erratic warming to be expected when the planet naturally shifts from a Little Ice Age (1300-1850 AD) to a centuries-long warm phase like the Medieval Warming (950-1300 AD) or the Roman Warming (200 BC- 600 AD)."

Al gore receives two undese... (Below threshold)
Spurwing Plover:

Al gore receives two undeserved awards for a deliberate fruad and a lie and just as bad as him are those idiot judges who gave him those mawards they should all be fired and there should be a congressional or senatorial investigation into this

Well, if it IS warming, it'... (Below threshold)
SATerp:

Well, if it IS warming, it's apparently warming in the wrong direction in central Texas. I normally have to cover my plants 2 or 3 times a winter when frosts are predicted, but we're up to about 12 - 15 times this winter.

Can this Al Gore feller get it hotter down here so I don't have to keep covering my plants?

North Country - "Are yo... (Below threshold)
marc:

North Country - "Are you talking about this Bob "ExxonMobile" Carter? If so nice try but no prize."

And your point is? If it's none of the Globe is Hotting Up Crowd ('cause of man) don't have political or financial interests that, shall we say, cloud their perspective - you're nuts!

Puzzle me this NC, Eric the Red discovered and explored Greenland in the 10th century.

The climate was such on his return to Iceland he promoted colonizing and give Greenland its name to encourage settlers.

Those settlers were very productive farmers in a land that is much colder today.

How is that possible NC?

And I ask again, North Coun... (Below threshold)

And I ask again, North Country - where's the friggin' thermostat SUPPOSED to be set.

You're saying we've got to change things. Tell us what temperature you're looking to get us to - and why.

You looking for the Medieval Warming? Or the Little Ice Age? Come on - there's got to be SOME target you GWarmers are looking at cooling us to - tell us what it is!

Marc,So are you sayi... (Below threshold)
North Country:

Marc,
So are you saying fossil fuel industry funded climate studies good - taxpayer funded studies bad?
Where is the logic in that?
As far a Eric the Red (a member of my family tree!)goes what the he** does that have to do with the current industial age and the burning of fossil fuels that releases C02 that has been buried in the earth for thousands of years?
By the way Eric the Red called it Greenland to trick the people settled on Iceland to move there. At that time Iceland had a much better climate for settlements. It was one of the first false advertising success stories of the new world!

This is my last post tonigh... (Below threshold)
North Country:

This is my last post tonight. I know none of you have been swayed by what I've posted but I hope you will read and ponder this from writer Emily Murgatroyd:

If you were told that you had a fatal disease and a Doctor told you how to get better, but then an economist came along and told you that the cost of treating you would be too high so it would be better not to do anything - would you sit there and wait to die?

It's that kind of inane logic that governs this quote from Cato Institute Senior fellow, Jerry Taylor who said, "scientists are in no position to intelligently guide public policy on climate change." Scientists can lay out scenarios, but it is up to economists to weigh the costs and benefits and many of them say the costs of cutting emissions are higher than the benefits".

NorthCuntryStop bein... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

NorthCuntry
Stop being a coward and answer the question already - What is the global temperature supposed to be? What do you GWers want to lower it to?

The short answer, of course... (Below threshold)

The short answer, of course, Les, is that neither NC nor AlGore nor any of the other alarmists have the slightest idea what the temperature SHOULD be. But it's okay, because their whole and entire purpose is more government control over private economic activity - preferably some global government not subject to Constitutional or democratic constraints.

The "global warming crisis" isn't a problem to be solved; it is a means to an end.

Amusing that North County a... (Below threshold)
SPQR:

Amusing that North County attacks medusa's Carter quote, when what is quoted does not differ from the IPCC's own description of 20th Century warming.

But ad hominem is the main tool of AGW proponents these days.

North Country -... (Below threshold)

North Country -

"I know none of you have been swayed by what I've posted..."

Because you've done the typical GWarming bullshit - you've dodged around the question and tried to turn it into an emotional issue. I don't convince from emotional glurge, and you aren't going to sway many people here with it either - and that's all you're offering!

Hey, I'm a global warming believer. I was a skeptic until I read the article I linked. I CAN be swayed by facts. I CAN be swayed by ACCURATE information, that can be verified elsewhere, that isn't dependent on weepy appeals framing conclusions that haven't any valid INFORMATION to back them.

I'm a heretic in that I believe that global warming is a GOOD thing. AlGore's income from his Global Warming Carbon-Credit scam is dependent on it being a BAD thing. He makes no money if he cannot convince people that we must do something NOW, and he just happens to have a solution... doesn't that set off a little warning bell in your mind?

If someone in an unmarked truck came to your door, told you your roof needed fixing RIGHT NOW, without delay, and they just happened to have a pallet of shingles in the back of their truck they could put on - and it'd only cost you $20,000... would you tell them to do the job, or get opinions and quotes from a couple of other roofers out of the phone book?

If you read that article I linked, if it hadn't been for mankind's influence on the atmosphere by the addition of methane from AGRICULTURE, we'd be nuts-deep in an ice age. If you look at the LONG-TERM record, we should be colder than penguin poop at this point. That we aren't is pretty serious evidence for long-term disruption of the cycle. And I don't see that as a bad thing.

YOU, my friend, must not only convince me that the warming is BAD, but that the remedies proposed will not be WORSE than the supposed problems from the warming. And I'm pretty stringent in my requirements for that - I believe polar bears are pretty adaptable critters, and so are seals... and they've lived through warmer AND colder periods in the past.

So don't frame the argument in emotional contexts. That won't work - it sets off warning signals like crazy.

What we're asking for is simple information.

What is the overall temperature the world should be at?

Why is that temperature the right one?

How was it chosen?

What would be necessary to get it there?

What would the side effects be of GETTING it there?

How will that temperature be maintained throughout the normal planetary variations?

If you cannot answer the above, and I repeat, I'm ready and willing to look at hard science which would show that global warming is a BAD thing (not op-eds or focus group opinion or 'consensus' politicing) - your case is not supportable.

And therefore worthless.

Come on - have you got the data to back your arguement or not?

I hate to break this to you... (Below threshold)
thecomputerguy:

I hate to break this to you Jay....it sometimes snows during winter in North America.

And I "hate" to break it to you, but it's really hard to believe that the globe is getting warmer when you have excessive snowfall and cold temperatures in the winter (and don't forget mild summers).

The whole notion that the globe is getting warmer in large part due to NASA's GISS (Goddard institute for Space Studies). GISS's interpretation of Global warming comes because they (primarily Jim Hansen, global warming enthusiast) perceive that measured temperatures are warmer that they were previously (although because of a bug that was found in his software recently, actually, 1934 was the warmest record in recent history, not 1998 as they had previously claimed). Until we come up with another really hot year, the idea that there is rampant warming simply isn't backed up back facts.
Besides the bug in the software, the weather station survey should be done in the next few years, which will also likely reduce recent temperatures (because many of the stations are located incorrectly, and their readings are affected by things like air conditioning exhaust, vehicle exhaust, and pavement and concrete. Take a look at surfacestations.org and enlighten yourself a bit.

Gee, Jay. I thought you wer... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Gee, Jay. I thought you were smarter than this. Large amounts of snowfall are a result of GW, no matter what you think.

It goes like this:

If you have above average snowfall, it's because of global warming (GW); if you have below average snowfall, it's because of GW. Basically, if anything happens, it's because of GW. Like if a mosquito farts in Nova Scotia and, at the same time, there's a hurricane in the Caribbean, it's because of GW. Not because the mosquito sucked the blood out of some fat guy who just ate a bowl of chili. It's alllll related. Trust me.

Man, you'd think you'd know this stuff by now...


/sarcasm tag off

Excellent post Peter. You w... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

Excellent post Peter. You wouldn't happen to be one of the signees on the UN GW report would you?

/sarc off

North Country - "As far... (Below threshold)
marc:

North Country - "As far a Eric the Red (a member of my family tree!)goes what the he** does that have to do with the current industial age and the burning of fossil fuels that releases C02 that has been buried in the earth for thousands of years?"

Coming from someone who has swallowed The Goracle's line of snake oil hook line and sinker I'm not surprised you wouldn't understand the Eric the Red/Greenland ref.

Spelled out.... Greenland was one hell of a lot warmer in the tenth century than now or warmer than any of the current alarmists say it will be.

If you have above averag... (Below threshold)
Brian:

If you have above average snowfall, it's because of global warming (GW); if you have below average snowfall, it's because of GW. Basically, if anything happens, it's because of GW.

Hmm, let me try that...

If violence in Iraq decreases, it's because we're winning. If violence in Iraq increases, it's because the terrorists are getting desperate that we're winning. Basically, if anything happens, it's because we're winning.

Hey, you're right, it works!

Brian (not to be misspelled... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Brian (not to be misspelled as 'brain', implying that you actually have one...),

Um, in case you haven't been paying attention the last 6 months, dingleberry, violence in Iraq HAS decreased tremendously--thanks in very large part to the "surge". And yes, as a matter of fact, the lessening of violence in Iraq DOES mean the good guys (aka: U.S., us, we and the IA, IP, etc.) are winning. (Now ain't that a bitch? Casualties reduced, fewer people dying. Hell, what's a good liberal to do? Good news! That's a bitter pill to swallow, isn't it....)

Furthermore, when terrorists bomb markets, etc and kill completely innocent people, they do so not because those folks are military targets and it will hinder operations, but because people (aka: asshats) like you will point to it as evidence and say 'see! we're not winning!' Blah, blah, blah, clown.

But thanks for hijacking the thread with your lameass attempt at humor! It failed miserably, like most of your attempts at life and "humor" often do.

Next time, try and remember that drinking and posting don't mix...

If you were told that yo... (Below threshold)
Proof:

If you were told that you had a fatal disease and a Doctor told you how to get better, but then an economist came along and told you that the cost of treating you would be too high so it would be better not to do anything - would you sit there and wait to die?
If I was told by a doctor with his hand in my pocket, then I'd wait for a second opinion!

Fatuous examples like that one from No. Country, made me wish that the voting buttons included a "Hell, no!"!

It failed miserably<... (Below threshold)
Brian:

It failed miserably

Much like your reading comprehension and rational thought process, it seems.

Gee, here is Brian "shinny ... (Below threshold)
David:

Gee, here is Brian "shinny nickel" boy. The thread is about GW not Iraq. But we all know you don't give a damn, nor do you want to change anybody's mind. You just want to read your own crap.

HEY AL GORE WE NEED YOUR HO... (Below threshold)
Spurwing Plover:

HEY AL GORE WE NEED YOUR HOT AIR HERE IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA ITS GETTING VERY VERY COLD HERE

"If you were told that y... (Below threshold)

"If you were told that you had a fatal disease and a Doctor told you how to get better, but then an economist came along and told you that the cost of treating you would be too high so it would be better not to do anything - would you sit there and wait to die?"

First, it's a stupid analogy. And what if the doctor didn't have "incontrovertible proof", nor did any of his colleagues? And all during the diagnosis phase irreconcilable errors were discovered?

The analogy starts with the premise that the diagnosis and the cause are without question.




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