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Kelly Tilghman, Tiger Woods, Golf Channel, and Al Sharpton

Even Michelle Malkin is commenting on this news.

During their usual post-round banter as they wrapped up Day 2 at the Plantation Course at Kapalua, Tilghman and cohort Nick Faldo discussed young players who could possibly challenge Tiger. Faldo, ever the joker, said perhaps the youngsters should "gang up (on Tiger) for a while." The pair laughed a bit before Tilghman responded by saying, "Lynch him in a back alley." The pair chuckled awkwardly before moving on.
If anyone is wondering, I wasn't watching the broadcast at the time. My practice is not to watch golf tournaments before weekend play begins unless its a major championship.

Here's the Youtube video.

A little background information on Kelly. She played college golf at Duke, pro golf on foreign circuits in Asia and Europe, and has been a Golf Channel announcer for 10 years. I have no opinion of her skills as a broadcaster. For the most part I tune out these announcers and follow what's happening on the course instead.

Kelly's comments were tasteless. She apologized to Tiger. Mark Steinberg, Tiger's agent, said this was a non-issue. That should have ended the matter.

Then last night Golf Channel suspended Kelly for two weeks. Ironically her first tournament back will be the PGA's tour stop in San Diego. That will also be Tiger Woods first tournament of 2008. Kelly will be working the tournament. I can already smell the media circus that is likely to take place that weekend.

The Reverend Al Sharpton is not happy that Kelly was just suspended.

The racially tinged comments by Golf Channel broadcaster Kelly Tilghman officially became a cultural and political issue Wednesday night when Rev. Al Sharpton demanded that the network fire her or face picket lines, part of growing fallout that precipitated a two-week suspension for the network's lead play-by-play host.

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"This cannot just go with, 'I apologize, me and Tiger are friends,'" Sharpton told CNN. "We are in an era now where we see hangman's nooses all over again. I don't know why that (phrase) would pop into her head, but it popped out of her mouth and she should be accountable for it. "This is not about Tiger Woods. It's about the station and using public airwaves to offend people. This is not about making Tiger a civil-rights leader. Tiger has the right to his own private feelings and his relationships.

"This is about saying this woman's language violated the civil rights that you have been entrusted with an FCC license not to do."

The civil rights movement in 50 years has morphed into what an announcer says or can't say in a golf broadcast? Good lord.

Golf Channel may have had no choice but to suspend Kelly in order to placate people. Maybe those people included that network's sponsors. Should Kelly be suspended? First let me say I am a proponent of free speech, and have defended people from Cindy Sheehan to Ann Coulter. People can say what ever they want, however if its outrageous enough, they have to expect a backlash. That applies to Kelly and Reverend Sharpton also. To have an honest discourse, I think all views have a right to be aired. Who's to say what is right and wrong? Not to say there can't be times action is required, I just don't see it here.

The backlash Kelly may suffer could be substantial. Fuzzy Zoeller made some off color comments about Tiger Woods some ten years ago. As of today Fuzzy is still taking a hit in the wallet for it. Kelly is unlikely to face similar consequences, that is unless Golf Channel caves in further and fires her. The suspension and public humiliation is enough. In Kelly's case, firing her would be an overreaction.

My friend, Palm Beach Post golf writer and blogger Craig Dolch, gets it right when he says- "If Woods doesn't have a problem with it, why should anyone else?"


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Comments (79)

Woods himself should know, ... (Below threshold)
DJ:

Woods himself should know, he was chastised for the 'putting like a spaz' comment he made at a tournament Phil Michelson won a while ago.

Much ado over nothing IMO.

Sharpton has done little go... (Below threshold)
Davis:

Sharpton has done little good to further his causes recently. Case in point his injustice towards the Duke players and now this ridiculous comment "Lynching is not murder in general, it's not assault in general,'' Sharpton said. ``It's a specific racial term that this women should be held accountable for. What she said is racist. Whether she's a racist ... is immaterial." I wonder if Sharpton understands that the definition of lynching has nothing to do with race but is described as "Any act of violence inflicted by a mob upon the body of another person which results in the death of the person." If anything Kelly should not have chosen those words but if Tiger can forgive and forget can't the true racist Rev. Al Sharpton forgive.

ANOTHER REDICULOUS WASTE OF... (Below threshold)
MARK ATKINSON:

ANOTHER REDICULOUS WASTE OF PEOPLES ENERGY. EVERYONE IS CAPABLE AND USUALLY WILL MAKE OFF- COLORED COMMENTS. MOST DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WHAT THEY COULD BE HURTFUL. TIGER IS AMERICAS SUPER HERO AND HAS SAID "NON-PC" THINGS. GET OVER IT PEOPLE AND MOVE ON TO MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES!
I PERSONALLY LOVE TIGER WOODS AND KELLY TILGHMAN AND AL SHARPTON IS AN IGNORANT SELF- GLORIFYING FOOL.

Looks like Obama is bleedin... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Looks like Obama is bleeding off the money from the welfare checks and $harpton is losing out.

Hmmm - did I miss Sharpton'... (Below threshold)
Geminichuck:

Hmmm - did I miss Sharpton's critism of Hillary's referrence to Obama doing spade work?

Still, I think that's a rea... (Below threshold)
langtry:

Still, I think that's a really amazing thing to say. "Lynch him in a back alley?" Sorry, I'm not so forgiving.

While the phrase used by Ms... (Below threshold)

While the phrase used by Ms. Tilghman was utterly beneath contempt, especially on-air, she did apologize and Mr. Woods apparently is not miffed by it.

As Mr. Imus can attest, in order for Ms. Tilghman to regain whatever credibility she had will be a long row to hoe.

Sharpton is nothing without... (Below threshold)
Puck:

Sharpton is nothing without the media that enables him.

It is the media that creates these circuses.

Al sharpton is such a hypoc... (Below threshold)
eric:

Al sharpton is such a hypocrite. when Joe Biden made racially charged remarks last year, (And it wasn't his first time doing so) Sharpton thought it was funny. It's obvious that Tilghman's main crime was not being a Democrat.

WHOA PEOPLE!!! The comment... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

WHOA PEOPLE!!! The comment may not be offensive to you or TW, but I bet there are millions of African Americans who are upset.
The reality is you cannot say what KT said on national television - it is racially insensitive.

Kelly must be held accountable for her actions (whether intentional or not).
Comcast should can her. It will look good to the NAACP, not force the Sponsors to face undue pressure, and she stinks as a play-by-play talent anyway.

Put Lerner in the booth with Zing and Faldo.

Win-win

She probably had to have it... (Below threshold)
Veeshir:

She probably had to have it explained to her why it was offensive.
This reminds me of the two black women who sued Southwest because the flight attendant said, "Eeny meeny miney moe, pick a seat so we can go."
Of course, she had even never heard about the older version about who you catch by the toe.

I am laughing pretty hard about people backing up that race hustler and uber racist, the Rev Al, while ignoring that Tiger thinks it's no big deal.

Personally, I'm sick of thi... (Below threshold)
Scott in CA:

Personally, I'm sick of this "being held accountable" crap every time someone says something that one group or another finds "offensive".

Get. Over. It.

This is the despicable identity politics curse yet again. Every time someone says something that is "offensive", all (fill in the blank) are unhappy and demand apology.

If Tiger was offended, he didn't say so. He's the only one who matters. Everyone else is a hanger-on and should shut up and mind their own business.

God, this is tedious.

And so we let another vocal... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

And so we let another vocal offended minority dictate what can and can't be said on TV.

Maybe Al should go to work for CAIR - he certainly seems to have a handle on getting people to shut up. And THEY certainly need some pointers in how to censor the media gently, without actually appearing to do so.

Was Kelly dumb? Yeah. But let's face it - broadcasters are trained to avoid anything resembling dead air, and to keep talking no matter what happens. Say something - ANYTHING - to fill the void...

And Al Sharpton's trained to use anything - no matter how weak, no matter how far from the truth - to get his face in front of a camera. Perhaps he should have been in Australia around Christmas - I understand they had a problem with "Ho's" he could have gotten incensed about.

The issue should be between... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

The issue should be between Kelly, her employer, and Tiger Woods. For Jackson to interject himself is just exemplary of his disgusting political opportunism. Still, were I her employer I would fire her. "Unprofessional" is putting it mildly.

I am sick to death of peopl... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

I am sick to death of people redefining words for their own outrages.

Ha ha ha.... shades of the ... (Below threshold)
914:

Ha ha ha.... shades of the outrage over the Mohahmed cartoons?

$hopton needs to be spaded before He cause's another watts riot that ends up killing people over words..

Ooops, did I say spaded<... (Below threshold)
914:

Ooops, did I say spaded, sorry.. I meant spayed..

I will start My 2 week suspension now.

Here's what Tiger should do... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Here's what Tiger should do:

Issue a statement saying that he's spoken with Tilghman and that's he's accepted her apology. Then tell Sharpton to drink a big glass of STFU and drop it.

By definition a lynching is... (Below threshold)
Craig:

By definition a lynching is the illegal execution of an accused person by a mob.

I believe Kelly had no ill intent in her comments and feel that race should not be brought into this issue. Al, stay out of it. The only time you ever chime in on anything is when you feel the black man has been brought down. It's not always about racism Al.

I do know that when any of the golf announcers talk I tune them out. When it comes to their personal opinions, who cares.

As for Kelly. Have you ever really tuned in and listened to her? She stinks as an announcer. She seems to be reaching for ideas everytime she tries to comment on something. If anything, she should be canned for the poor job she does as an announcer.

Facts about the shots and scores are what matters when watching golf. There are too many announcers for the sport. I love watching golf and believe you only need two people to tell you what is going on.

Pebbleby15 - "Kelly mus... (Below threshold)
marc:

Pebbleby15 - "Kelly must be held accountable for her actions (whether intentional or not)."

She was held accountable by the people most associated with her and her job. Her employers. Just because you find the "accountability" not "accountable means about as much as a bear dumping in the woods.

Pebbleby15 - "Comcast should can her. It will look good to the NAACP,"

Oh yeah... now that's something to aspire to, placating the NAACP.

It's perfectly acceptable for the NAACP to look the other way when the phrase "Make way for the nigger" is used 'cause... well they didn't say it, it's JUST a campus display.

It was also "acceptable" when NAACP Chairman Julian Bond was quoted saying:

[Mr. Bush and other Republicans cater to a racist] "dark underside of American culture."
"They preach racial equality but practice racial division." "Their idea of equal rights is the American flag and Confederate swastika flying side-by-side."
And need I mention the NAACP paid by the racially charged non-sense political add about James Byrd, Jr.

I tend to believe the NAACP should have been held "accountable" and apologize for it's racist rant against the President.

BUT it never happened.

I remember seeing an ad for... (Below threshold)
Son Of The Godfather:

I remember seeing an ad for some barbecue sauce or something... One guy says it's from New York City.

The other guys exclaim: "New York City!?!?... Get a rope."

I don't see that commercial anymore. People really need to get over being offended by insignificant banter... Especially when the perceived injustice was not intentional.

You either intend to disparage using racial epithets and such, or you are above it and don't think about it (as I believe is the case here). There was no racial injustice here. There is no grey area, it's totally black and whi...

*THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED FOR RACISM*

Whether she meant to say it... (Below threshold)
Joe:

Whether she meant to say it or not, her career will be affected by it. Corporate America will ensure that. Some sponsorships will be pulled and some associations will be discontinued...all because of her. And she cannot blame anyone but herself. No one forced her to say it and she didn't have any incentive to say it. The fact of the matter is that her pockets will be hurt by it. That's the price you pay when you take certain "liberties" as opposed to being professional at all times while at work and dealing with the public.

I do not understand what these people are thinking. Sure, our free speech is guaranteed by the constitution; however, the standard for good taste is not. We controll that. It's pretty high one day and low the next. It's very subjective at times and changes from group to group and from era to era. Some seasoned professionals who are smart and sensitive know how to avoid this; other so-called experience professionals are simply ignorant jackasses without any tact who live in their own little worlds and say dumb stuff and hope no one hears them.

Hhhheeee Honk! Hhhhhheee Honk! Hhhhheee Honk!

What does Tiger Woods' opin... (Below threshold)
matthew:

What does Tiger Woods' opinion of her comments have to do with whether or not they are offensive to the (small minority of) black people in the TV audience?

Comcast should can her.<... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Comcast should can her.

They can't. The Golf Channel is her employer.

Kelly must be held accountable for her actions (whether intentional or not).

She was suspended. What more do you want? Oh wait, let me guess: You want to lynch her.

Give you sanctimonious garbage a rest.

Did I say Jackson? I can ne... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Did I say Jackson? I can never tell those two apart. ; )

Joe:I'm just glad ... (Below threshold)
engineer:

Joe:

I'm just glad you're so perfect and would never make a mistake. Therefore, since you can't forgive, you'll never need forgiven. And you can judge somebody soooo accurately.

FWIW...a Jack Ass goes Hee Haw. You must be confusing it with a Jack Goose.

And what does Tiger's agent... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

And what does Tiger's agent have to say? Per ESPN:

Asked for a reaction, Woods' agent Mark Steinberg said: "This story is a non-issue. Tiger and Kelly are friends and Tiger has a great deal of respect for Kelly. Regardless of the choice of words used we know unequivocally that there was no ill-intent in her comments. This story is a non-issue in our eyes. Case closed."

Yes, indeed.

I guess Al Sharpton has nev... (Below threshold)

I guess Al Sharpton has never watched old western movies of the 30's and 40's. Guys (and gals) were getting lynched weekly. In back alleys, on the prarie, in town, on farms, in front of the jail -- mobs were very hard at work then.

BTW, most all the victims were white (some "redskins" got the rope too). Accused horse thieves seemed to fare the worst.

"Kelly must be held acco... (Below threshold)
914:

"Kelly must be held accountable for Her actions (wether intentional or not)."

Pebbleby15, Who are You held accountable too for making such an assinine assertion?

Where was Sharpton's outrag... (Below threshold)
Mike:

Where was Sharpton's outrage when those three teens were executed in Newark? If he is such a crusader, why dosen't he use his talents to actually do some good rather than stir up disharmony where ever he see's an opportunity. It's a sad state to be so high on the evolution chart and so low in our human experience.

HELLO?!?Comcast ow... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

HELLO?!?

Comcast owns the Golf Channel. Brian Roberts (CEO of CMCST) could fire Tilghman in a heartbeat.

Look, the reason I commented is: (1) no one ever takes responsibility for their actions anymore; and (2) Tilghman was a disaster before the TW comments.

Time to get new blood in the booth...Rich Lerner never would have said something like that...

pebbleby15 - "(2) Tilgh... (Below threshold)
marc:

pebbleby15 - "(2) Tilghman was a disaster before the TW comments."

That's really the crux of the matter isn't it? A preconceived bias has led you down this path and also allowed you the chance to toss in the NAACP tripe.

pebbleby15- She did take re... (Below threshold)
kat:

pebbleby15- She did take responsibility for her action, she apologized. Whether the term "lynching' is offensive is another argument. Personally, I am offended by Al Sharpton, what are you going to do about that?

Jimmy the Greek was fired f... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

Jimmy the Greek was fired for a tasteless remark.

Imus was fired for a tasteless remark.

Why shouldn't Kelly be fired?

pebbleby15 - "Jimmy the... (Below threshold)
marc:

pebbleby15 - "Jimmy the Greek was fired for a tasteless remark.

Imus was fired for a tasteless remark.

Why shouldn't Kelly be fired?

So your saying EVERY case is the same? Not very persuasive, in fact pretty lame, must say. That's the kind of crapola Sharpton somes up with.

And note Imus was fired "illegally" and he rightfilly received compensation for it.

As to your direct question, because her employer decided it wasn't warranted.

PEOPLE?!? WAKE UP!!!... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

PEOPLE?!? WAKE UP!!!

Sharpton is a goofball. Publicity hungry freakshow. HOWEVER, he is right in this case. What KELTIG said was offensive. He wants her fired. He is entitled to expressing that opinion. He has long been recognized as one of the voices in the black community.

HE IS ALLOWED TO BE UPSET. HE IS ALLOWED TO GO ON TV AND ASK FOR HER TO BE FIRED. HE IS ALLOWED TO PROTEST IN ORLANDO AT GC HEADQUARTERS.

Free speech is a beautiful thing.

The reality is there isn't a right or wrong in this case, just words and people. I support Sharpton's view.

You may have a different take.

Let me ask you this question: If Colin Powell or Barack Obama asked for KELTIG to be fired, you wouldn't be so upset, would you??

This whole thing is not abo... (Below threshold)
Erin Miller:

This whole thing is not about Woods or Tilghman. This is about appropriateness. Her words were not appropriate at all. Rappers are often criticized for calling women hos and bitches. In the same way, this woman should be sanctioned for alluding to the MURDER of a man because he is black. That's what lynching in America is right? How many times in history have you see a white man hanging from a tree?

I am so tired of white people thinking they can say whatever they want and then just wrap it up with an apology. Those words have POWER. And with the decline of the thinking man, some asshole would go out and lynch someone because of what she said.

Tiger may not care, but honestly Tiger is the non-issue here. Because that word is about more than Tiger. It is about the history of black people in America that were enslaved for 300 years and socially tortured for decades after slavery. Read your history.

She needs to lose her job. Set the standard high for all people to use censorship when they discuss items of race, religion, creed, or sexuality. There is freedom of speech, but not when that speech is essentially killing.

Love this: I guess Al Sh... (Below threshold)
matthew:

Love this: I guess Al Sharpton has never watched old western movies of the 30's and 40's. Guys (and gals) were getting lynched weekly. In back alleys, on the prarie, in town, on farms, in front of the jail -- mobs were very hard at work then. ... BTW, most all the victims were white (some "redskins" got the rope too). Accused horse thieves seemed to fare the worst.

Because most people lynched in b&w movies from the 30s were white, it's not a bad thing to speak of lynching in reference to a black man in the year 2007. Nice analysis, idiot. Were black people ever cast in westerns back then? But let's put movies aside. Who were the actual people getting lynched in the 30s and 40s? Were they white cattle rustlers?

I don't think she should be fired. I don't think most of you should try so hard to defend a person whom you'd never heard of prior to this non-issue, though. Makes you seem like the opposite side of the Sharpton coin.

38 comments and counting an... (Below threshold)

38 comments and counting and all because of some remarks from a golf announcer. Maybe I should write about golf more often here.

NOT!

What we have here is the rare confluence of a popular sports star/golfer and a lightning rod/Al Sharpton. The chances of this happening again are rather low. Like my being voted most popular contributor at Wizbang.

Cheers,

Bill

"Let me ask you this qu... (Below threshold)
marc:

"Let me ask you this question: If Colin Powell or Barack Obama asked for KELTIG to be fired, you wouldn't be so upset, would you??"

Um.. let me think....

NO, last I heard they have no dog in this fight and don't pay her salary. They can blather on the subject all they care to but it would not change a thing.

I LIKE SHARPTON'S ANALOGY:<... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

I LIKE SHARPTON'S ANALOGY:

What if he made a gas chamber remark about Jews?

Agree with ERIN MILLER that this goes beyond the racist KELTIG and is about offending an entire race of human beings.

She should be fired, if COMCAST had the decency to do it. Instead, COMCAST has "big corporation" mindset and takes the approach of, well it wasn't offensive to me, so we'll suspend her a few weeks and hope it dies down.

She is racist. A "slip" doesn't happen like that if you are talking about a different race. She went to college in Durham, NC where there is tremendous racial tension.

Chances are that's not the first time she's used that language.

Erin Miller - "Set the ... (Below threshold)
marc:

Erin Miller - "Set the standard high for all people to use censorship when they discuss items of race, religion, creed, or sexuality. There is freedom of speech, but not when that speech is essentially killing."

OK, be glad to. Just as soon as all the racial nonsense, and woman hating BS ceases to exist in ALL forms of Music.

Til that happens I'll tell the cards fall where they may. And they fell in this case on the lap of her employer and they handled it and she took responsibility.

Marc - You can't s... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

Marc -

You can't say that it's okay to be racist because others are racist. That's ridiculous.

I dislike the hip-hop BS as much as you do, but that is a separate topic.

The employer "handled it" buying playing out an option - the way any smart executive would. I bet Brian Roberts (CEO of Comcast) called the GC and said suspend for a few weeks. If it dies down, we're okay, if not we fire her.

This saga isn't over until the sponsors have made their call.

Okay, so now everyone shoul... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

Okay, so now everyone should be sure to never ever use a term that some members of society believe at one time was commensurate with being a racist? I guess the fact that she was born over 100 years after slavery was ended and that she and the person of topic are friends doesn't matter a bit to our several victims in waiting on this site.

Quite simply, get a life. You sensative Sally's need to realize that you do not have the right to never be offended, intentially or not. And you certainly don't speak for other groups of people who you feel should be offended. What, are you offended on behalf of them, possibly becuase they don't know well enough to be offended.

I pity the lives you must live. I even pity more the lives of those who most co-exist around you and God forbid you have children. The world certainly doesn't need any more victims in the wings in addition to all the pansies we're already stuck with. Guess what, your interpretation of something being racist doesn't make it so.

Jack Burton - I pity the... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

Jack Burton - I pity the lives you must live. I even pity more the lives of those who most co-exist around you and God forbid you have children.

How is teaching tolerance and respect to my children considered "pitiful?"

"IN THE END WE WILL NOT REM... (Below threshold)
Pebbleby15:

"IN THE END WE WILL NOT REMEMBER THE WORDS OF OUR ENEMIES BUT THE SILENCE OF OUR FRIENDS."

Dr. Martin Luther King

"Discrimination is a hellho... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

"Discrimination is a hellhound that gnaws at African Americans in every waking moment of their lives to remind them that the lie of their inferiority is accepted as truth in the society dominating them."

Dr. Martin Luther King

"Nothing in the world is mo... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."


Dr. Martin Luther King

Jack Burton - I pity the li... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

Jack Burton - I pity the lives you must live. I even pity more the lives of those who most co-exist around you and God forbid you have children.

How is teaching tolerance and respect to my children considered "pitiful?"

Un, your insistance on tolerance is downright intollerant.

Let me get this right, your idea of teaching your children tolerance is to censor people who say things you don't like? Did I get that right? Do you see some sort of ironry, or possibly hypocrisy in that statement?

I'm gonna bet you don't. I imagine you're one of those people who feel the need to make people understand your way of thinking because we just plain don't understand the "facts".

"It may be true that the la... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

"It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important."

Dr. Martin Luther King

Jack Burton -Get r... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

Jack Burton -

Get real. There is no form of television today that would allow racist remarks on a continuing basis.

The FCC does not allow use of spectrum licenses to belittle any human being.

You should think about counseling.

She is racist.... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

She is racist.

Based on a lone, accidental and, yes, stupid statement, you're going to accuse her of being a racist. Nice.

A "slip" doesn't happen like that if you are talking about a different race. She went to college in Durham, NC where there is tremendous racial tension.

There is? How would you know? Have you been there? Are you from there? Or are you just generalizing.

Chances are that's not the first time she's used that language.

That's an unfounded allegation and assumption you're making based on one, freaking sentence. And have you've never made a disparaging racial remark in private? Hmmm? Be honest.

Let's agree on one thing: Rev. Sharpton is a Christian, yes? And isn't the one of the great tenets of Christianity forgiveness? Yes, it is. (Examples: The forgiveness of sin. Or, "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." Or, "forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.")

Now, you would think a man of God like Sharpton would have a firm grasp of that concept and practice it daily. But no. He's not accepting her public and private apologies or the fact she's been justly punished for her boneheadedness. But that's not good enough for Sharpton (or you); he wants her job, her livelihood, to destroy her and then he'll have his "justice". But his punishment doesn't fit the crime, and worst of all, it's not forgiveness--it's vengeance.

And that's reprehensible coming from an alleged "man of God".

(P.S. And no, I don't care if I was wrong about who owns the Golf Channel.)

Hey pebbleby15,Are... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

Hey pebbleby15,

Are you going to start singing songs here too.

I'm glad you have the MLK quick quote reference book. But I could care less.

Last time I checked, our Country is based on the rule of law, and I don't believe MLK's memoirs compromise our rule of law.

And I do find it odd, and pathetic, that you got your undies in such a bunch over a comment that had no racist content, just something you perceive to be racist.

Why don't you email from MLK quotes to Senator Byrd as he actually used racist terms, and let us know how that project goes. Check back soon.

What is more intolerant?</p... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

What is more intolerant?

Saying what Tilghman said or firing her?

Saying what Tilghman sai... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Saying what Tilghman said or firing her?

Her firing. The punishment doesn't fit the crime.

FYI: No one, I repeat, no one in this country has the right to not be offended.

Peter F., should Christians... (Below threshold)
matthew:

Peter F., should Christians in the United States forgive Al Qaeda for 9/11? Sharpton is an imbecile, but the idea that Christians who are offended (or pretend to be offended, as the case may be) are obliged to forgive is imbecilic.

JOKE IS ON YOU!!! GOTCHA</p... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

JOKE IS ON YOU!!! GOTCHA

I am white male. I love golf. I LOVE Tiger (hence the name 'Pebbleby15' which is a reference to his awesome 2000 U.S. Open victory by 15 shots at Pebble Beach).

I don't care about Kelly Tilghman. What she said is funny and not racist. I think the WHOLE THINK IS STUPID!!!!!!

I have had more FUN than you can imagine poking all of you in this chat room.

FOR THE RECORD: Kelly shouldn't be fired, Al Sharpton should get a new hairstyle and pipedown, and we should all move on do something more productive with our lives.

I have to admit, it was a trip getting a rise out of Marc, Jack Burton, et. al.

Ah, the FCC would not allow... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

Ah, the FCC would not allow the spectrum of licenses to belittle human beings?

Are you really that naive, dumb, misguided, head up your arse, etc?

What on earth do you call today's rap music. In no less than five minutes I can hear women, black people, white people, police, cats, dogs and fish insulted in the worst ways imaginable followed each time by the dreaded n-word 24 hours a day.

Where is your outrage over that? How about my favorite criminal reverand Sharpton who's made a living disparaging whites and jews. And what about all the times he's been proven wrong. Tawana the lying slime Brawley, the Duke lacrosse players, the people murdered at his encouragement at the jewish department store in New York City. And that was just one week's work.

You do hold those folks to the same standard, don't you. I mean, can you copy us on your letters of outrage to the music industry labels or perhaps the sponsor's of Sharpton's show?

Just go ahead and post them here as I'm sure there are many who want to be sure that you're not a raging hypocrite.

How is teaching to... (Below threshold)
Son Of The Godfather:
How is teaching tolerance and respect to my children considered "pitiful?"

It's not, if done correctly, but when one uses every instance of every perceived injustice to play the perpetual victim (or, in Sharpton's instance, to make a buck), it's overkill...and it desensitizes the argument against actual bigotry.

One of my best friends, who is black, is also tired of these eternal "injustice" seekers. I often refer to him as my "bro", and he (jokingly) yells "racist!" and points at me like the aliens in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers".

"Lynch"?... "Ho"?... Is there a list somewhere that we should remove from society for fear of offending one or more groups of people? How many more laws do we need to avoid hurting someone's sensitivities?

My ancestry is Italian... I want an apology for anyone who has ever referred to 50's music as "Doo-Wop".

"I have had more FUN th... (Below threshold)
marc:

"I have had more FUN than you can imagine poking all of you in this chat room."

For someone who doesn't know the difference from a "chat room" and a blog and its comment thread I have serious doubts about much you have to say, and that includes any alleged "joke."

"My ancestry is Italian... ... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

"My ancestry is Italian... I want an apology for anyone who has ever referred to 50's music as "Doo-Wop"."

That's refering to Italians? Never knew that, but don't listen to it either as the sound makes my skin crawl.

Learn something new every day.

So the new moron on the sit... (Below threshold)
Michael:

So the new moron on the site is pebbleby15...could he be nogowar in disguise?

Jack,I was referri... (Below threshold)
Son Of The Godfather:

Jack,

I was referring to the second half of the term, which really doesn't refer to Italians, but I want reparations anyway!

And how could anyone not like good ol' doo-wop? :)

Also, not sure if that's your real, given name, but "Big Trouble inLittle China" was a classic, very underrated movie.

Michael,I was also... (Below threshold)
Son Of The Godfather:

Michael,

I was also considering the "nogo" angle.

Isn't it ironic that Al Sha... (Below threshold)
Frank:

Isn't it ironic that Al Sharpton, a man who has been convicted of tax evasion, who wrongly accused and convicted of slandering an Assistant District Attorney of rape in the Tawana Brawley case a few years, and God know what else is even being listened to. He is an arrogant liar that has been pandered to by CNN and dare I say the left. What about the Hillary comment on Obama and his spade work. Golf channel don't give Sharpton (I'll call him Reverend when he starts to act like one)any voice in this whole mess. Tiger should way into this and put it to sleep by calling Sharpton down.

Matthew wrote-" sh... (Below threshold)

Matthew wrote-

" should Christians in the United States forgive Al Qaeda for 9/11? Sharpton is an imbecile, but the idea that Christians who are offended (or pretend to be offended, as the case may be) are obliged to forgive is imbecilic."

People who have lost alot have forgiven or tried to do so

Bruce Murakami
The parents of Mary Karen Read
The parents of Sarah Stone

If you follow the links, all three of these families or in Bruce's case father, have tried hard o forgive those who took a loved one(usually their child) away from them.

The Stone's story was the recent inspiration for a web fiction story with a forgiveness theme, that also had elements of the Mary read's story. At the time I wrote it, I didn't know about Bruce. His story may have resembled mine most of all.

Forgiving the unforgivable isn't impossible. One has to be incredibly strong, and some are.

Bill

Peter F., should Christi... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Peter F., should Christians in the United States forgive Al Qaeda for 9/11? Sharpton is an imbecile, but the idea that Christians who are offended (or pretend to be offended, as the case may be) are obliged to forgive is imbecilic.

I knew someone would bring that up. But I'll play along because they answer is clear:

There's a HUGE difference between defending yourself from a sect who murdered and continue murdering thousands and who wish to kill you and your family and destroy everything your country stands for (aka: life, liberty, freedom of religion...etc.) and the words of a single, boneheaded announcer individual that do not draw blood or kill. The comparison between the two is simply ridiculous.

Forgiveness is the most difficult of all Christian concepts. It is something to be grappled with daily on both small and large scales. And while some Christians may think of themselves as perfect (completely foolish; Christians are to recognize their imperfection), I am not nearly so pious and have no such illusions of perfection. (For the record: During a religious class we had this very discussion on forgiving people like murderers, molesters, terrorists and folks like Hitler, Stalin and, yes, I brought up OBL. If OBL came to the table and asked for forgiveness, as a Catholic, I would accept it and forgive him. But make no mistake, he and his Islamofacist brethren have no intention of doing any of that.)

But let's keep this about the Rev. Al.

I'd give Al big-time props if he just said "I'm glad she apologized and that she was punished. I hope we can all forgive her."

I'm actually rooting for Al to do just that. Maybe some day he will. But I ain't holding my breath...

Excellent response, Bill.</... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Excellent response, Bill.

And you're right, forgiving OBL would be damn hard and take one strong individual.

i'm an episcopalian... (Below threshold)
pebbleby15:

i'm an episcopalian

I have suspended the Golf C... (Below threshold)
Rick:

I have suspended the Golf Channel from my house for two weeks. When Kelly is back, I'll be back.

I have also suspended Al Sharpton from my house permanently. So, when he comes on, I'll change channels, just missing any ads that may appear on that show.

When did Al Sharptongue become the program director for American media?

All of you need to get a li... (Below threshold)
ron:

All of you need to get a life!!! Your use of references,quotations and your own personal comments is quite sickening. If this is what our society has become, we are in poor shape. Al Sharpton is an flake who is always looking for someone to listen to his stupid rantings, hmmm just like the rest of you later LOSERS!!!

"This saga isn't over until... (Below threshold)
Knightbrigade:

"This saga isn't over until the sponsors have made their call."

YA because right behind the NBA, GOLF has a huge African-American viewer percentage.

The sponsors could lose all (6) of their African-American viewers, including Al "the mouth" Sharpton.

This nothing but pure PC racist Al Sharpton getting news time...END of story...

"Al Sharpton is a flake ... (Below threshold)
914:

"Al Sharpton is a flake who is always looking for someone to listen to his stupid rantings,hmmmm just like the rest of You later i>LOSERS!!!"

Speaking of stupid rantings..your own fills the bill nicely.

Later jac ass

El capital no work Italiano... (Below threshold)
914:

El capital no work Italiano..

Say there, Bill, how's your... (Below threshold)

Say there, Bill, how's your inbox holding up? :-D

This was a terrible choice of words. If she had said "shoot him behind the caddy shack" instead, it would have still been in poor taste, but wouldn't have excited the entire Racial Sensitivity Industry to immediate action.

Public apology would be nice - politicians seem to obtain forgiveness for acknowledging their errors, so why not talking heads, I mean info babes, I mean newscasters?

Bottom line is that you can count the guys who have a reasonable hope of finishing ahead of TW in any given tournament on the fingers of one hand. And much of that hope will be that Tiger has an off week.

So how come there are 75 co... (Below threshold)

So how come there are 75 comments about this incident without ANYONE making the obvious observation that Kelly Tilghman is

ONE

HOT

BABE?

In his interview yesterday ... (Below threshold)
Ronda Helms:

In his interview yesterday that racist, speaker of black people once again put himself in a situation that had nothing to do with him. During his statement he said that him protesting and the whole situation had nothing to do with Tiger Woods but with the word said and the people who found it offensive. The fact is Mr. Racist it was all about Tiger Woods, she didn't say all black golfers did she and in his comments he also of course kept refering back to the Don Imus Lynching, with regards to the Rutgers Women's Basketball team and said something about the black women what I would like to remind all of you racist, bitches there were TWO WHITE WOMEN on this team and I don't recall Don Imus excluding these women in his comment so why is the focus just on the BLACK Women of the team and not the whole team including the two white women? I will tell you why because it doesn't have anything thing to do with what is right or wrong, because if it was the TWO WHITE Players would not be excluded everytime some BLACK RACIST PIG uses it as an example to further their racist points.

When did Al Sharpton become Webster's Dictionary? Also in his comment he kept referring to combining the words Women and Rape as two words that are wrong to be used but for some racist reason Al Sharpton seems to forget the LYNCHING of the WHITE DUKE LACROSSE PLAYERS THAT WERE ACCUSED BY A LYING BLACK BITCH OF BEING RAPED AND I DON'T RECALL THE RACIST AL HAVING A PROBLEM USING THE TWO WORDS TOGETHER AT THAT TIME. BUT ONCE AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS A LYING BLACK BITCH IT WAS OK. HAS AL APOLOGIZED TO THESE YOUNG MEN? AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE REPORTER IS FROM DUKE. IS THE OJ SYNDROME GOING ON HERE. SINCE THE LYING BLACK BITCH WAS PROVEN TO BE A LIAR AND THE INNOCENT WHITE BOYS DIDN'T GET LYNCHED LIKE AL WANTED THEN HE WILL TAKE WHATEVER WHITE PERSON FROM DUKE HE CAN GET. WHO IS AL? WHERE DOES HE GET HIS MONEY? I CAN TELL YOU WERE OUT OF THE POCKETS AND OFF THE BACKS OF THE VERY BLACK PEOPLE THAT HE RAPES EVERYTIME HE ACTS AS THE SELF-APPOINTED SPOKESMAN FOR THE BLACK RACE.

Ronda

Note to white people. Word... (Below threshold)
ROCCO92:

Note to white people. Words you can no longer use: "N" word (this word actually should not be used by ANYBODY), lynch, boy, master (this would inclued "The Masters"), rope, tree, cotten, nappy, ho (sorry Santa), bro, brother, hip, hop, jive, sister, yo. These are just a few, but if any black people could let me know what else I can't say please let me and the rest of us know so we can up-date our Don't Say Lists. Thank you and God Bless the reverened (I hope I can use reverened) Al Sharpton. If the black community wants him as their spokesperson you can have him.

I think this whole Tiger th... (Below threshold)
Fuzzy Z:

I think this whole Tiger thing has been blown way out of proportion. I mean the boy has spoken to Kelly and the two are friends. I think we should just get back to letting the boy do what he does best and thats win every golf tournament. This boy is just unstoppable.




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