Here's an edited excerpt from the official press release by DHS:
'Americans understand today that the 9/11 hijackers obtained 30 drivers licenses and ID's, and used 364 aliases. For an extra $8 per license, REAL ID will give law enforcement and security officials a powerful advantage [over terrorists regarding] falsified documents, and it will bring some peace of mind to citizens wanting to protect their identity from theft by a criminal or illegal alien,' said DHS Secretary and former federal appeals court judge Michael Chertoff.
Read the whole thing.
Obviously the Ron Paul-style nuts and other paranoid types will look at that news release and will begin twitching, foaming at the mouth and retreating to their basement bunkers, waiting for the men in black to take them away, kicking and screaming.
But, still, we conservatives out here in Reality Land want more immigration enforcement and more anti-terrorism efforts, don't we?
REAL ID ain't perfect. Far from it. Not even close.
But it's much better than the status quo. Much better than the lazze-faire approach of the 1980's and 1990's. Much better, too, than anything the media/Democrats would have vomited up.
Incidentally, here's an excerpt from the news report by the Associated Press:
The Homeland Security Department has spent years crafting the final regulations for the REAL ID Act, a law designed to make it harder for terrorists, illegal immigrants and con artists to get government-issued identification. The effort once envisioned to take effect in 2008 has been pushed back in the hopes of winning over skeptical state officials.Even with more time, more federal help and technical advances, REAL ID still faces stiff opposition from civil liberties groups.
By "civil liberties groups," the AP means the leftist ACLU.




Comments (10)
But it's much better tha... (Below threshold)1. Posted by wolfwalker | January 11, 2008 10:32 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
But it's much better than the status quo.
Actually, no it isn't. It's much WORSE than the status quo. You see, an ID that meets the Real ID rules is automatically acceptable. But an ID that meets the Real ID rules is easy to steal and duplicate. The Real ID regs require identifying data to be stored on the card in some form that can be read from a distance -- but there is no requirement that the data be encrypted. Anyone with a reader can steal your data -- your identity, your entire life. You'll never even know. But when he manages to copy that data onto a counterfeit card, no one will ever be able to prove it's yours and not his -- because by law, Real ID is assumed to be correct and accurate.
To make it worse, Homeland Security agents have already caught counterfeiters with blank new US passports -- you know, the ones that have Real-ID-type data chips in them? Blank. Still in the wrappers. Ready to be programmed. So some scumbag reads the data off your Real ID card, copies it onto one of those shiny new passports, and presto -- he's got legal proof of citizenship IN YOUR NAME.
I'm all in favor of a good, accurate, unforgeable, theftproof ID method. Real ID isn't it.
1. Posted by wolfwalker | January 11, 2008 10:32 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on January 11, 2008 22:32
2. Posted by Jay | January 11, 2008 10:57 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
All hail Fatherland Security.
2. Posted by Jay | January 11, 2008 10:57 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on January 11, 2008 22:57
3. Posted by jpm100 | January 12, 2008 12:35 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
If the terrorists "obtained 30 drivers licenses" as mentioned in the article and didn't make them themselves, then all that would happen is they'd get those licenses with their fake identities encoded in them on the Real ID chip.
I fail to see where this would have helped.
3. Posted by jpm100 | January 12, 2008 12:35 AM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 12, 2008 00:35
4. Posted by matthew | January 12, 2008 1:37 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's 'laissez-faire'. Do you really think that this Big Government ID system will really make it harder for Bad People to do Bad Things?
4. Posted by matthew | January 12, 2008 1:37 AM |
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Posted on January 12, 2008 01:37
5. Posted by Allen | January 12, 2008 1:51 AM | Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
I can't believe the comments above. You people have and are still supporting President Bush's policy's. Now you aren't. WHY? Germany has individual ID cards, they are called Kin cards, due to the aftermath of destruction of WW2. And there was a good reason for that in Germany, because family's were separated, killed, etc. etc.
However we are not separated, etc. etc.
It has become the fear factor, hence homeland security. Thanks to the lefties, no profiling. I'm sure a white women, in her 80s, in a wheel chair is a threat to airlines. Same as the average American citizen, that can speak American English.
But thanks to the lefties, homeland security cannot profile someone who wears a towel on their head, dressed in a sheet. Well, which one is is closer to a terrorist? And due to the tech that is available today, almost every ID can be copied.
However this is a Xray machine that shows every part of the body. But here again the lefties are yelling discrimination. One of the reason it shows how large/small a womens breast is, how large or small a mans penis is, etc. But it shows exactly what is under your clothes. Any plastic weapon, not pickup on normal metal screener, it shows everything on your body.
I personally don't care who sees what length or size my penis is, (it's how you use it that counts) nor should a women complain about breast size (more than a mouth full is wasted).
All Americans who drive have a state approved drivers license, or a regular passport. We don't need more ID. Just use the new Xray machine's at the airport. If a person may be embarrassed for one reason or another, agree to a strip search. Simple, right?
5. Posted by Allen | January 12, 2008 1:51 AM |
Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 12, 2008 01:51
6. Posted by Eric Forhan | January 12, 2008 2:48 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmm...As a conservative who likes a smaller federal government, I'm not too hot on this idea.
But then, I'm also the same who is beginning to wish we would show our American resolve by lowering airport security some.
6. Posted by Eric Forhan | January 12, 2008 2:48 AM |
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Posted on January 12, 2008 02:48
7. Posted by Mac Lorry | January 12, 2008 7:58 AM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
The REAL ID card uses an RFI chip so that data can be read from a distance, but a simple conductive sleeve around the card prevents if from being read until it's removed from the sleeve. If you are worried about someone stealing your identity, just carry your ID card is such a sleeve.
The data on the chip can be digitally signed, which prevents it from being altered without such tampering being detected. A person's photo can be part of such data, which eliminates just anyone from using your ID. Fingerprints and retina scans could also be contained in such data. The only way of stealing the identity of a person with such an ID is to first clone the person.
We all carry ID cards now, so I don't see why there's such fuss over making the ID hard to forge and nearly impossible to steal someone's identity.
7. Posted by Mac Lorry | January 12, 2008 7:58 AM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on January 12, 2008 07:58
8. Posted by SATerp | January 12, 2008 10:16 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It only took the feds 6+ years to address drivers licenses. Does that mean we can expect the border fence by 2108?
8. Posted by SATerp | January 12, 2008 10:16 AM |
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Posted on January 12, 2008 10:16
9. Posted by Diane C. Russell | January 12, 2008 1:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I just don't understand the supposed republicans who seem to be rabidly pro-big government, pro-government control of our lives, anti-states rights, anti-4th amendment--RINO's supporting authoritarian programs that Stalin and and Hitler would envy.
Do these people really believe that police-state measures are good and will make our lives more secure? Is Jayson just misguided--does he really believe that the gummint will limit itself to prosecuting terrorists and not eventually track and persecute dissidents? Or is he part of the plot?
9. Posted by Diane C. Russell | January 12, 2008 1:17 PM |
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Posted on January 12, 2008 13:17
10. Posted by Birdzilla | January 12, 2008 11:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And illegal aleins need not apply
10. Posted by Birdzilla | January 12, 2008 11:09 PM |
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Posted on January 12, 2008 23:09