After weathering nearly five years of war, Baghdad residents thought they'd pretty much seen it all. But Friday morning, as muezzins were calling the faithful to prayer, the people here awoke to something certifiably new.I wonder if anyone will try to blame George Bush for it. Or global warming?For the first time in memory, snow fell across Baghdad.
Although the white flakes quickly dissolved into gray puddles, they brought an emotion rarely expressed in this desert capital snarled by army checkpoints, divided by concrete walls and ravaged by sectarian killings -- delight.
"For the first time in my life I saw a snow-rain like this falling in Baghdad," said Mohammed Abdul-Hussein, a 63-year-old retiree from the New Baghdad area.
"When I was young, I heard from my father that such rain had fallen in the early '40s on the outskirts of northern Baghdad," Abdul-Hussein said, referring to snow as a type of rain. "But snow falling in Baghdad in such a magnificent scene was beyond my imagination."
We currently have five sleds in our backyard shed. Most of them were Christmas gifts. We have an old fashioned wood and metal sled, a big round plastic disk shaped one, a banana shaped plastic one, a really cool streamlined one that looks a bit like an Indy race car, and an inflatable one that looks like a raft. And we haven't had a decent snow in several years. I blame the sleds. One year we got our girls snowsuits and a couple of sleds for Christmas because the previous year we had a really good snow and realized we had no good snow gear. Ever since we got the snowsuits and sleds we have not had a decent snow. It is that "if you want it to rain, wash the car" effect. If we weren't prepared, we would probably have had a blizzard by now.
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These people are so bent on... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Judith | January 11, 2008 9:31 AM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
These people are so bent on war, they turn even a peaceful snowfall into a fight (snowball fight, that is). Just being sarcastic...oh, by the way GLOBAL WARMING!
1. Posted by Judith | January 11, 2008 9:31 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 09:31
2. Posted by Pretzel_Logic | January 11, 2008 9:33 AM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Haliburton.
2. Posted by Pretzel_Logic | January 11, 2008 9:33 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 09:33
3. Posted by Mike | January 11, 2008 9:41 AM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
Obviously Mother Gaia has gotten fed up with everyone ignoring the Bu$$hCheneyCo "snowjob" in Iraq, and has decided to take matters into her own hands.
3. Posted by Mike | January 11, 2008 9:41 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 09:41
4. Posted by Adrian Browne | January 11, 2008 10:01 AM | Score: -10 (12 votes cast)
Factoid:
The 4 million Iraqi refugees (2 million internal and 2 million that have fled the borders) would be the equivalent of 40 million Americans being displaced.
4. Posted by Adrian Browne | January 11, 2008 10:01 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 10:01
5. Posted by Puck | January 11, 2008 10:03 AM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
As soon as the kids outgrow the snowsuits - we'll have lot's of snow.
Feed 'em.
5. Posted by Puck | January 11, 2008 10:03 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 10:03
6. Posted by Bill Jempty | January 11, 2008 10:08 AM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
All reminds me of a scene between Siegfried and Maxwell Smart on Get Smart. Siegfried says he turned to evil because his parents wouldn't get him a sled for Christmas. Smart expresses some sympathy for the KAOS agent. Siegfriend says something like.
'Did it have anything to do with us living in Florida?'
6. Posted by Bill Jempty | January 11, 2008 10:08 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 10:08
7. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 11, 2008 10:14 AM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Ha. We don't get snow often, but used to get at least one really good one each year, but not for a while now. We tend to get more ice than snow.
I used to think it was all tied to the snow boots. If I got the girls a new pair of snow boots it wouldn't snow, but when they outgrew them and they were all sold out of snow boots in the stores, we would get a really good snow. The boot/sled combo -- that's got to be it!
7. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 11, 2008 10:14 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 10:14
8. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 11, 2008 10:28 AM | Score: -12 (14 votes cast)
"..in this desert capital snarled by army checkpoints, divided by concrete walls and ravaged by sectarian killings -- delight."
That is just not possible because yesterday I was told the war was won by mitchell,and lovie in JJ's post:
"..turn Iraq victory into defeat for America." lovie
"If I remember correctly, all the left wing lunatics on this blog said victory in Iraq was a fairy tale, and that we were all absolutely stupid to believe it could happen." mitchell
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/01/10/iraq-update-anbar-province-and-ramadi-subdued.php#comments
8. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 11, 2008 10:28 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 10:28
9. Posted by yetanotherjohn | January 11, 2008 10:52 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
I didn't even know Al Gore was visiting Baghdad.
9. Posted by yetanotherjohn | January 11, 2008 10:52 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 10:52
10. Posted by JLawson | January 11, 2008 11:24 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
He gets around, yetanotherjohn. Probably some supersecret trip to get the REAL story on Iraq.
10. Posted by JLawson | January 11, 2008 11:24 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 11:24
11. Posted by Brian | January 11, 2008 11:41 AM | Score: -6 (12 votes cast)
Bombs fall parked cars blow up
Shopping for vegetables sometimes fatal
Bodies lay cold in the street
Teenagers don't know what peace is
Oppression depression anger at hostile future
Foreign interests conflict with local teaching
Misguided or ill informed perspective is everything
Silence joy momentary distraction peace
Today it snowed in Bagdad.
11. Posted by Brian | January 11, 2008 11:41 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 11:41
12. Posted by Jason Smith | January 11, 2008 11:49 AM | Score: -5 (7 votes cast)
The message from Mother Nature and/or God is directed to the hypocrite Bush, who is in the Middle East admonishing israelis on being "occupiers" and "invaders" in Palestine.....
God was so incredulous, he made it snow in Iraq....or, in other words, "hell froze over".....meanwhile, as Bush is speaking about peace, he dropped 47,000 lbs of ordinance on the suburbs of Baghdad just for good measure....
Is this an example of a targeted attack meant to spare civilians???? No wonder he won't outlaw cluster bombs either!!!!! His shock and awe is meant for the whole Iraqi people......no wonder the whole place is deserted, yet we maybe take a couple hundred refugees a year....
Global warming, climate change.....God is b*(&$slapping Bush right now, if only he paid attention!!!!
12. Posted by Jason Smith | January 11, 2008 11:49 AM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 11:49
13. Posted by 914 | January 11, 2008 12:13 PM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Serenity now!
"...meanwhile as Bush is speaking about peace, he dropped 47,000 lbs. of ordinance on the suburbs of Baghdad just for good measure."
47,000lbs all by Himself and Hes just getting warmed up..
"no wonder the whole place is deserted,yet maybe we take a couple hundred refugees a year."
If its deserted where are the refugees coming from?
So I take it Your not voting for Bush this year Jason?
13. Posted by 914 | January 11, 2008 12:13 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 12:13
14. Posted by Mac Lorry | January 11, 2008 12:41 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
It's just more of the lefty snow job on Iraq.
14. Posted by Mac Lorry | January 11, 2008 12:41 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 12:41
15. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | January 11, 2008 12:57 PM | Score: 3 (7 votes cast)
Barncommie is still wishing for misery/defeat in Iraq. Looks like liberals are not happy when America is winning in Iraq and they want to blame George Bush and America. Jason cannot even move himself to blame the terrorists for blowing up Iraqui women/children. I guess he will blame Bush for the terrorist attacks.
AlQueada is being defeated in Iraq, so the liberals still need to withdraw our troops from Iraq as soon as possible. Barcommie simply stays true to the liberal agenda of "killing babies, not terrorists" big government.
15. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | January 11, 2008 12:57 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 12:57
16. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 11, 2008 1:29 PM | Score: -6 (10 votes cast)
"Jason cannot even move himself to blame the terrorists for blowing up Iraqui women/children. I guess he will blame Bush for the terrorist attacks." lovie
al Qaeda was not in Iraq until Bush invaded.
16. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 11, 2008 1:29 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 13:29
17. Posted by Scrapiron | January 11, 2008 1:34 PM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Barney Fife is the snow job. This simply proves the global warming crap is simply crap. It has snowed in Bagdad in the past, another cold period (use actual history, not Algorabge's drive for millions of dollars in his pocket) for the world in returning. Don't throw away your fur coats, longjohns and boots. For one time listen to a Russian weather expert. In a few years the 'sky is falling' democrats will again be screaming about the coming ice age. I do remember the 70's since I don't and have never did drugs. The offspring of the druggies from the 60-70's are now all brain damaged democrats. Look around, it all ties togather neatly.
17. Posted by Scrapiron | January 11, 2008 1:34 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 13:34
18. Posted by Scrapiron | January 11, 2008 1:39 PM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
al Qaeda has to blow up children. How else will they get their 72 virgins since Islam is the religion of child rape and anyone over three won't qualify as a virgin?
al Qaeda was in Iraq prior to the invasion. Too much real proof of that. Barney, Get over the lies your teacher/parents told you, do a little research and you'll find many documents to prove the truth.
18. Posted by Scrapiron | January 11, 2008 1:39 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 13:39
19. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | January 11, 2008 1:49 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Barney, Zawahiri was in Iraq as early as 1998.
19. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | January 11, 2008 1:49 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 13:49
20. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | January 11, 2008 2:07 PM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
al Qaeda was not in Iraq until Bush invaded.
-------------------------------------Barncommie 's denial of reality continues. With supporters like that no wonder Obama can make up facts with a straight face.
20. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | January 11, 2008 2:07 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 14:07
21. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | January 11, 2008 2:14 PM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Since global warming is causing snow fall in Iraq, the far left is alarmed by a new cheap car (only $2500) for the poor. The poor must be sacrificed for the god of global warming. Just another example in the long list of liberal compassion for the poor. I hate to see when liberals stop caring about the poor (eg. the poor women/children blown up by the terrorists in Iraq).
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/article3164205.ece
The idea of millions of Nanos on the road alarms environmentalists. Rajendra Pachauri, the chief UN climate scientist, said last month that he was "having nightmares" about it.
21. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | January 11, 2008 2:14 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 14:14
22. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | January 11, 2008 2:43 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Real snow falls in Iraq, but another snow job by the left is falling on health care for the poor
http://instapundit.com/archives2/013953.php
CHEAP, ACCESSIBLE HEALTHCARE: To be banned in Boston?
These kinds of clinics are getting good reviews elsewhere. Is it too cynical to suspect that the real opposition stems from fears that they will make national healthcare seem less urgent?
22. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | January 11, 2008 2:43 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 14:43
23. Posted by Apropos de Nada | January 11, 2008 2:46 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Going for the obvious here....
"Hell Freezes Over"
23. Posted by Apropos de Nada | January 11, 2008 2:46 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 14:46
24. Posted by JLawson | January 11, 2008 3:35 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:
The left love the poor so much, they want to make more of them and keep them as pet causes. Hope the thing on the Boston banning of clinics makes a post on the main page - got some comments to make on it, and don't want to derail this thread... well, any further than it already is.
24. Posted by JLawson | January 11, 2008 3:35 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 15:35
25. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | January 11, 2008 3:39 PM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
JLawson,
Your point is well taken. I have done enough derailing here. Just couldn't resist the audicity of "hope" from the left.
25. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | January 11, 2008 3:39 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 15:39
26. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 11, 2008 5:15 PM | Score: -2 (6 votes cast)
I love how the right always forget that one of global warming's side effects is extreme weather phenomenon such as snow in Baghdad and tornadoes in winter. Please explain why IL and WI was struck by tornado(s) in January for the first time in recorded history?
26. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 11, 2008 5:15 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 17:15
27. Posted by Jo | January 11, 2008 5:33 PM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Global warming....LOLOLOLOL
What would we laugh at without democrats/liberals around?
27. Posted by Jo | January 11, 2008 5:33 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 17:33
28. Posted by marc | January 11, 2008 6:28 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Baghdad barney - "Please explain why IL and WI was struck by tornado(s) in January for the first time in recorded history?"
Does this make you ill-informed, disingenuous or a flat out liar?
"According to data from the National Weather Service, Wisconsin previously had recorded only one tornado in January since 1844.
28. Posted by marc | January 11, 2008 6:28 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 18:28
29. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 11, 2008 6:55 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
OK marc, you got me on that one. I must have missed that 1844 tornado. I guess that make this year's tornados normal. Just like snow in Baghdad in January is normal. My point still stands that anomalies in weather patterns is an effect of global warming, and not just one or two but several and correlated with increases in global temperature averages.
29. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 11, 2008 6:55 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 18:55
30. Posted by marc | January 11, 2008 7:05 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Badhdad barney - "OK marc, you got me on that one. I must have missed that 1844 tornado. I guess that make this year's tornados normal. Just like snow in Baghdad in January is normal. My point still stands that anomalies in weather patterns is an effect of global warming, and not just one or two but several and correlated with increases in global temperature averages.
Oh gee, likes it hard to "get you" on anything. That's like saying the sky is blue.
Got proof "anomalies in weather patterns" have never happened and only started as global warming allegedly started?
I doubt it, because it's nonsense.
30. Posted by marc | January 11, 2008 7:05 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 19:05
31. Posted by JLawson | January 11, 2008 9:10 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Actually, Marc - it's not nonsense. Mankind DID cause global warming... and it's a damn good thing.
Overall - if it weren't for the incention of agriculture, we'd be about at the coldest spot of a severe cold cycle, possibly with polar bears meeting penguins around Panama.Snow in Iraq? Hey, if it gets below freezing (which it does there) and there's sufficient moisture (which there was) it's gonna snow. When I was a kid in El Paso, TX in the '60s, I remember it snowing a couple of times - and El Paso is 2 degrees further south than Baghdad.
31. Posted by JLawson | January 11, 2008 9:10 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 21:10
32. Posted by JLawson | January 11, 2008 9:20 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
"the INVENTION of" - Sheesh. What good is Preview if it won't correct your spelling errors?
32. Posted by JLawson | January 11, 2008 9:20 PM |
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Posted on January 11, 2008 21:20
33. Posted by marc | January 12, 2008 12:14 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
JLawson - "Snow in Iraq? Hey, if it gets below freezing (which it does there) and there's sufficient moisture (which there was) it's gonna snow. When I was a kid in El Paso, TX in the '60s,
Yep, agree with your link, I've read it before.
As far as snow in the Middle East goes, I was aboard the U.S.S. O'Brien stationed in the far north of the Arabian Gulf in (I believe) Dec., 1996 and a heavy snow storm dropped a blanket of snow on Israel and we had heavy snow showers 20 miles out to sea in the Gulf.
Because of Baghdad's inland location they had no snow but other coastal areas did.
33. Posted by marc | January 12, 2008 12:14 AM |
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Posted on January 12, 2008 00:14
34. Posted by ash | January 12, 2008 4:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is frightening.. Remember the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"? HOLY COW!! Wish it would not end just like in that movie.
34. Posted by ash | January 12, 2008 4:58 AM |
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Posted on January 12, 2008 04:58
35. Posted by JLawson | January 12, 2008 8:55 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Marc -
Whenever someone blathers about global warming and how terrible we are for causing something like that happen (as if it's never happened before without human intervention) I like posting that. There's a lot more to geologic history than the last two hundred years...
I figure it needs to be pointed out early and often - without anthropogenic global warming, human civilization would likely never have developed.
Ash -
The science behind that movie was laughable, depending on very high-altitude, very cold, low pressure air suddenly moving down into a high-pressure, high temperature zone. A real-life equivalent would be dropping half of a regular-sized ice cube into a full swimming pool - and expecting the full swimming pool to freeze solid virtually instantly.
No matter how cold the ice cube was (even down to 0 kelvin) there's too much thermal mass. It can't do the job.
Such things don't happen. Except in the movies.
35. Posted by JLawson | January 12, 2008 8:55 AM |
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Posted on January 12, 2008 08:55
36. Posted by Henry | January 13, 2008 10:35 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wow...I guess the weather in my hometown is exactly like Baghdad.
It snowed (and stayed on the ground ALL DAY) in Bakersfield California, January 25, 1999. So weird it made the national weather channel.
(The last time that snow fell in any depth was in 1933!)
36. Posted by Henry | January 13, 2008 10:35 AM |
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Posted on January 13, 2008 10:35