I wonder if "Throwing tea in the harbor" is a job Americans won't do anymore?

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The Boston Globe's weekday circulation slid 8.5 percent, to 397,288 last year. The only newspaper in the entire country taking a bigger hit was the San Francisco Chronicle (15.6% lower circulation). Form your own conclusions.

It's a shame that Massachusetts makes "citizen's arrests" so arduous. Otherwise, you wouldn't have to count on ICE or the local law enforcement to do their jobs. However, in Massachusetts, you can indeed make a citzen's arrest if you have knowledge of an individual committing a felony. Unfortunately, that individual has the right to sue for false arrest or false imprisonment (See Commonwealth v. Harris, 11 Mass. App. 165 (1981)). I think we know which way a case like this would go in the People's Republik of Cambridge and the like.

Of course, if you're a risk taker, and you know of an illegal immigrant who is working via Social Security fraud or identity theft, you have the right to perform a citizen's arrest using Section 408(a)(7)(A) under the 42 U.S.C.

Happy hunting...
Cheers,
JR

Well put Jay......this pretty much says it all, everywhere in our country. The dirty little secret the media doesn't want to make more public.

"It somehow slipped past the Glob's notice that the workers in question had no legal right to work in this country, and most likely committed identity theft and Social Security fraud to get their jobs."

So estimating conservatively, I would say most illegals are breaking at least two, if not three or more laws - don't forget driving without a VALID driver's license, registration, insurance. Plus, many illegals get paid in cash, under the table.

But hey, they are no different than the Pilgrims of the early 1600's....yeah, sure.

I think that this post by Andy McCarthy at the Corner merits linkage here. This quote is interesting:

it's important to bear in mind that being an alien without lawful status in this country is against the law but it is not a crime. While many people argue that it should be a felony, or at least a misdemeanor, it is not under current law. It is a felony to be illegally in the country if one has previously been deported. But otherwise, illegal alienage is generally an administrative offense -- the alien can be detained and deported but not convicted for being an illegal alien.

mcg - You may be right on a technicality, but please remember that most illegals are in fact working (against the law), a great many are using falsified identity and social security numbers (against the law).....plus, as the Homeland Security Dept. said a few months ago, the average, repeat, average illegal alien has been deported (and returned) to our country SEVERAL TIMES.

Once deported, an alien then commits a felony by coming back into our country. This whole problem is a story of corruption.

And our govt., under Bush looks the other way in the holy pursuit of "free markets", and increasing profits of firms. Of course isn't that what many plantation owners in the Old South said oh about a hundred and fifty years ago? Stopping their "guest worker" program would "hurt the economy". Hmmm.....

If you think the subprime mortgage bubble is a crisis for the economy wait until the social security bubble bursts. As it stands now, somewhere north of 2016 more money will be paid out to social security recipients than is coming in from workers. There's only two solutions. Either raise taxes or reduce benefits or both. Doing either is political suicide and disastrous for Democrats even if they are not in power. After all, Social Security is the Democrat's very own ponzi scheme.

Well there's another solution. Let illegals work and pay into the system, but with no right to ever collect from it. One way to keep illegals from stealing the identities of "real" Americans is letting them have a real identity, but as an illegal. That seems to be why some "liberal" leaning states are considering giving driver licenses to illegals. We also want to bring more illegals into the workforce, which explains giving them incentives like free or low cost education for their children.

Anyone approaching retirement age needs to get on-board with extending the ponzi scheme. If not they'll find themselves getting a lot less from Social Security than currently promised.

Nonsense.....The Heritage Foundation showed last spring that even magically making all illegals, legal and even then allowing more to come to the is country would not make a serious dent in the social security problem.

Why? These people make so little money and consequently pay so little in income tax that it's a moot point. Don't believe me, please look it up at www.heritage.org Plus they consume a very large amount of taxpayer subsidized entitlements due to their low education, non-English skills, high fertility, etc.

Besides, we're a nation, a country - not just an economy. Without enforced borders and laws, the nation will whither away to become some nebulous "free market" employment zone.

Nonsense.....The Heritage Foundation showed last spring that even magically making all illegals, legal and even then allowing more to come to the is country would not make a serious dent in the social security problem.

Who said anything about making them legal? The trick is to have them pay in, but never be able to withdraw. Keeping them illegal is the goal.

Why? These people make so little money and consequently pay so little in income tax that it's a moot point. Don't believe me, please look it up at www.heritage.org

Well if the www.heritage.org is making this claim then they don't know jack. First we are not talking about income tax. We're talking about payroll tax. Everyone pays the same percentage up to some maximum dollar limit and it's paid on the first dollar with no exemptions. In fact, it's such an effective tax that the average family of four pays more in payroll taxes than they do in income taxes. The employers than pay the same amount as their workers pay. So much money is collected that the federal government has been borrowing that money for decades in exchange for worthless IOU's

Plus they consume a very large amount of taxpayer subsidized entitlements due to their low education, non-English skills, high fertility, etc.

The families of many workers are not in the U.S. at all. And there's no evidence that illegals use more services than they pay for through various taxes like sales tax, vehicle taxes, income taxes, and use taxes. Do you think illegals file for a tax refund?

Besides, we're a nation, a country - not just an economy. Without enforced borders and laws, the nation will whither away to become some nebulous "free market" employment zone.

I don't disagree that there are nationalists reasons to control illegals. I'm explaining one reason why liberals are so eager to look the other way. They know the crash of the Social Security ponzi scheme will cost them politically, and having lots of illegal workers is one way of to postpone that crash.

I'm not coming down on you my friend but please remember, politicians (mostly Dems but really both) and the media will relentlessly push the "unfairness" of having people here working and not "fully included" in the national community, i.e. become Americans.

Dems want the vote of foreign nationals, i.e., illegal aliens.

The highest priority of the nation is to maintain the nation, not the self-interests of restaurants, landscapers, hotels and construction industries who want a never-ending stream of illegal, black market labor.

Do you think illegals file for a tax refund?

Yes.