Fox News just called it for McCain. It's particularly important to note that McCain won in a Republicans only primary, whereas the other states that he won, New Hampshire and South Carolina, were open states, which means Florida Republicans do seem to want him as their nominee. Governor Charlie Crist's and Senator Mel Martinez's endorsements probably contributed to McCain's win as well. This allows McCain to sail into Super Tuesday with a lot of momentum. Giuliani is done, having come in third, and according to Mark Halperin Giuliani will bow out and endorse McCain, perhaps as early as Wednesday. Although Mitt Romney is not out, McCain's win tonight means the odds that he will be our nominee go way up.
Now, what does this mean to conservatives who swore they would never vote for McCain should he become the nominee? I would hope that they would put aside their distaste and vote for McCain instead of electing a second President Clinton by sitting out.
Added: Having watched Giuliani's speech, his tone sounds like he's done. Could this mean a possible McCain/Giuliani ticket?
Update: Mark Levin at The Corner on Huckabee's insistence on remaining in the race:
Huckabee comes in Fourth. He won't leave. As I and some others said almost from the start, he is vying to be Veep and will continue to try to hold down Romney's numbers in future primaries. Romney is running against McCain-Huckabee, which will be difficult for him.
Update II: Romney's speech was really good. He spoke about growing up in America and that he knew America was the greatest nation on earth. I liked this line: "Freedom and opportunity was like the air; it was everywhere I went." Great imagery. His speeches get better and better every time he gives one. His voice was a bit hoarse, which tells me that behind the scenes he was probably working very hard to rally the troops.
Update III: Listening to McCain's speech now. His speaking cadence is unusual, almost sing songy. I can't quite put my finger on what it's like, but I just don't like it. It's uninspiring and unnatural in some ways. I prefer Romney's style because it sounds like he speaks to the crowd whereas McCain speaks at the crowd. This of course doesn't really mean a whole lot, but it's just my observation.
Update IV: Kathryn Jean Lopez also at The Corner:
I'll shut up after this post, but Romney has been ON since Michigan. It may prove -- it may have been proven tonight -- to be too late. But this guy speaking right now, is hitting important issues, making you feel good about America, as you should. It's a rallying speech. Maybe it's the silly flip-flopping thing that has been too hard to shake. Maybe he took too long to rise above it.What if Fred had endorsed? What if Jeb had? Ah well.
It may not be over. But it's going to be hard to kill McCain's momentum coming out of tonight and a probable Rudy endorsement. He does have the money and the turnaround skills ...
Let's hope he can do it.
Update V: More praise for Romney's speech tonight. It's from Hugh Hewitt who is a Mitt Man but he's right nonetheless.
Romney's speech tonight was exactly the sort of speech he needs to give again and again for the next week. The conservatives aren't going to throw in the towel which means Romney has the chance to go from underdog to the last man standing opposite McCain next week.
Now that I've had time to think about this, should McCain win the nomination, the smart thing for McCain to do is select Romney as VP. It would unify the party if they are united. Kennedy put LBJ on the ticket and Reagan put Bush on the ticket. You don't have to like the guy to have him as your VP. Huckabee wouldn't work because he's ticked off too many economic conservatives. With the economy being an issue, he'd be very smart. I mentioned McCain/Giuliani earlier, but that wouldn't balance the ticket.
Update VI: The AP confirms that Giuliani will endorse McCain tomorrow.
Update VII: Stephen Green thinks a McCain/Giuliani ticket could happen. Hat tip: Instapundit
Comments (63)
Do I start heavy drinking o... (Below threshold)1. Posted by DoubleU | January 29, 2008 9:32 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Do I start heavy drinking or crying?
I can't call in sick tomorrow everyone else in the office will be calling in sick.
1. Posted by DoubleU | January 29, 2008 9:32 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 21:32
2. Posted by Diane | January 29, 2008 9:33 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Voting for McCain will be much easier if he picks a good strong conservative VP.
However, I think Obama will be the Democratic candidate. I no longer think Hillary will lock up the Dem nomination.
2. Posted by Diane | January 29, 2008 9:33 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 21:33
3. Posted by Ed Fairbairn | January 29, 2008 9:36 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
"Now, what does this mean to conservatives who swore they would never vote for McCain should he become the nominee. I would hope that they would put aside their distaste and vote for McCain instead of electing a second President Clinton by sitting out."
Well - that is tough for me. Would I rather have the Democrat brand screw up the country or have open borders, global warming, tax raising milquetoast judge appointing (Suter-like) Republican screw it up. If we let the Dems screw it up, then we can have the Republicans come in with a real conservative next time. Otherwise we have another Carter in 4 years after McCain.
This whole thing sucks.
3. Posted by Ed Fairbairn | January 29, 2008 9:36 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 21:36
4. Posted by Old Coot | January 29, 2008 9:39 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
I will not vote for McCain, but I live in California so my conservative vote doesn't count for very much anyway.
4. Posted by Old Coot | January 29, 2008 9:39 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 21:39
5. Posted by Matt | January 29, 2008 9:39 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
I would hope that they would put aside their distaste and vote for McCain instead of electing a second President Clinton by sitting out.
That is a tough choice. Vote for somebody that is wrong for America to prevent somebody else that is wrong for America being elected.
My state primary (AZ) is coming up on 05 FEB and I will not vote for McCain. As a Republican with a conscience I just can't do it. McCain does not represent Repbulicans, stopped representing the State of AZ after the 2000 elections, is unstable and will sell out the country for his own personal preferences. If elected President, McCain will sell out the country to foriegn interests.
If McCain wants to win, there has to be a reason to vote for him other than the fact that he is the evil alternative to an evil alternative.
The General election is gonna be tough. Hope he picks a really good VP.
5. Posted by Matt | January 29, 2008 9:39 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 21:39
6. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 29, 2008 9:46 PM | Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
This was huge for McCain. Romney will now have to dip into the kids trust fund, and we get to watch the republican party tear itself apart from the inside all the way to the convention.
With a McCain win and the total failure of Rudy, I can't wait to watch Hannity blow a gasket tonight.
6. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 29, 2008 9:46 PM |
Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on January 29, 2008 21:46
7. Posted by HughS | January 29, 2008 9:47 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Here's a question:
Setting aside national security (which is a major issue) what differentiates John McCain from Bob Dole? Will Republicans turn out in large numbers to vote for a candidate whose only distinction is national security? No.
What was the factor in 2006? Hmmm? Spending? Repudiation by the Republican establishment of Reagan principles? Yes. Yes.
Where is McCain in this algebra? Taxes? Wrong side. Immigration? Wrong side. Spending? I'm not so confident. Judicial appointees? Let's not go there. Free speech? Wrong side. War on Terror? How shall I say this....? I think he lacks the political will (based on the above listed failures) to make the really tough decisions Bush and Cheney made at the expense of short term political expediency.
Unless Romney pulls this out next Tuesday, it's 1996 all over again.
7. Posted by HughS | January 29, 2008 9:47 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 21:47
8. Posted by Jim Addison | January 29, 2008 9:59 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Well, the last time Republicans stayed home in disgust was 1992. Clinton not only won, but despite blundering through his first term so badly he ended up having to plead that "the President is still relevant," yet with a bit of good political advice he managed to portray the Republicans as evil and himself as the "happy medium" between the mean old right wing and the frothing-at-the-mouth Democratic liberals in Congress - at least well enough to win reelection.
Eight years is a lot of judges. A lot.
I detest McCain. I think he's as dirty a fighter as any political candidate in my lifetime, including Nixon and Clinton. He's wrong on many of the issues, arrogantly so, and in such a way as to probably cost us many billions of dollars.
But against Hillary or Obama, he looks better all the time. At his age, we might hope he chooses not to run for a second term.
8. Posted by Jim Addison | January 29, 2008 9:59 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 21:59
9. Posted by Tom Blogical | January 29, 2008 9:59 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
If McCain wins the nomination, then the Republican party is truly dead. Great win for the Democrats here.
I have no party. Therefore, I could care less who gets elected, because McCain = Clinton = Obama.
I've suddenly lost all interest in politics. I'm going to have to work 10 times harder to secure my financial future now, since I'll be paying through the nose to the government in taxes. Yippee.
9. Posted by Tom Blogical | January 29, 2008 9:59 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 21:59
10. Posted by CDR M | January 29, 2008 10:01 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Not sure you could call this a closed race just yet. I would be interested to see how many independents registered Republican for the Primary especially since no one would register to vote Democrat since that vote would not count? Independents seem to flock to McCain.
10. Posted by CDR M | January 29, 2008 10:01 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:01
11. Posted by Clay | January 29, 2008 10:17 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
I'm from Utah, but that's not why I like Romney (I'm not LDS). I lived in Arizona, down around Tombstone, for 20 years and I saw what McCain's open borders did to that place. I know 3rd and 4th generation ranchers who are tossing it in. It's a shame to be afraid for your children on your own land. I may not vote for the first time if McCain wins the nomination. I'd rather it was a Dem that screws up the country.
11. Posted by Clay | January 29, 2008 10:17 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:17
12. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 29, 2008 10:17 PM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Mitt can put his presidential dreams to bed along with the kids.
12. Posted by BarneyG2000 | January 29, 2008 10:17 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:17
13. Posted by Clay | January 29, 2008 10:22 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Be careful what you wish for.
13. Posted by Clay | January 29, 2008 10:22 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:22
14. Posted by HughS | January 29, 2008 10:24 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
But against Hillary or Obama, he looks better all the time.
I wish you were right Jim, but on this I disagree. Also, the last time Republicans were truly uninspired, excepting 2006, was 1996 w/ Dole. McCain is Dole redux.
Hillary/Obama will crush McCain for the very reasons you detest him. They can fight any way they want with impunity, McCain can't. He has already destroyed his credibility with key components of the Republican base.
14. Posted by HughS | January 29, 2008 10:24 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:24
15. Posted by civildisobedience
| January 29, 2008 10:33 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
McCain is getting 35% of the Republican vote. There are many who will never vote for him, including myself.
McCain is worse than the dems. He is bankrolled by the illegals mafia and they are running his campaign. I will do anything to see he is never president, including voting for Satan himself. McCain will destroy the Republican party, which seems to be his mission in life.
15. Posted by civildisobedience
| January 29, 2008 10:33 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:33
16. Posted by Brian | January 29, 2008 10:33 PM | Score: -3 (7 votes cast)
Clinton not only won, but despite blundering through his first term so badly...
Yeah, "blundering".
Remind us... what was the result of all that "blundering" after his first term?
Oh yeah... Clinton Approval Rating At All-Time High.
16. Posted by Brian | January 29, 2008 10:33 PM |
Score: -3 (7 votes cast)
Posted on January 29, 2008 22:33
17. Posted by Baggi | January 29, 2008 10:34 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
I'm not going to give up on Romney just yet and intend to Caucus for him on Feb 09 (Even though it might be all over by then).
If it is McCain, I can surely say i'd not be voting for him. I'll hope for a solid 3rd party candidate to vote for and i'll despise all the Hugh Hewitts and Jim Addisons out there who will try and scare me into voting for him with the whole Hillary/Obama thing.
Fact is, McCain will put Souter like judges on the Supreme Court. At least with Hillary/Obama we stand a good chance of another 1980 type election.
But I made the mistake of voting for Arnold in California thanks to Hugh Hewitt. I'll not make that mistake again.
17. Posted by Baggi | January 29, 2008 10:34 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:34
18. Posted by Brian | January 29, 2008 10:36 PM | Score: -7 (7 votes cast)
If McCain wins the nomination, then the Republican party is truly dead.
Too late.
18. Posted by Brian | January 29, 2008 10:36 PM |
Score: -7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on January 29, 2008 22:36
19. Posted by HughS | January 29, 2008 10:39 PM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Oh yeah... Clinton Approval Rating At All-Time High.
No, Brian, as usual you miss the obvious while stooping down to highlight the pointless. Clinton's first term? The grade was sent home in the 1994 change of power in the House and Senate. It was an historic defeat of a sitting President.
19. Posted by HughS | January 29, 2008 10:39 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:39
20. Posted by Tom Blogical | January 29, 2008 10:41 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Brian:
I read that Noonan piece. That's why I didn't say McCain will kill the Republican party. I believe it's truly dead already.
20. Posted by Tom Blogical | January 29, 2008 10:41 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:41
21. Posted by Don | January 29, 2008 10:41 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Huckabee will not be offered the VP slot. That job was the cost for the Crist endorsement.
I have voted every year for the last 49 years. I even voted for Dole (even though I disliked a great deal about him). Living in NY I have never voted for a democrat.
I will most likely, for the first time in my life, not vote this my 50th election if McCain is the candidate.
21. Posted by Don | January 29, 2008 10:41 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:41
22. Posted by Tom Blogical | January 29, 2008 10:45 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
I am getting great enjoyment out of the debacle that is the Democrat party right now, however. It's much more comical to watch liberals come out and say what they really think of the Clintons now. Classic.
22. Posted by Tom Blogical | January 29, 2008 10:45 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 22:45
23. Posted by nehemiah | January 29, 2008 11:00 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
As a conservative who unrealistically wished for Coburn or DeMint or Pence, I have to say that I will accept McCain as the nominee and will support him. Like for many conservatives, for me McCain was about last in my preference of all the candidates that ran. However, the people that think that a Hillary or Obama presidency is not much worse than McCain are gravely mistaken. McCain may royally mess things up since he does not know any better, but Hillary or Obama will come after you and your family purposefully and knowingly, and will not let up until they have gotten to ALL of your family.
23. Posted by nehemiah | January 29, 2008 11:00 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 23:00
24. Posted by Baggi | January 29, 2008 11:17 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Interesting news that very few folks seem to be mentioning.
Apparantly Florida isn't so much a closed primary after al.
1) You can change your registration 30 days prior to the vote (And why not since voting Democrat doesn't count anyway and being independent means you don't have anyone to vote for)
2) If you don't change your registration, you can still vote for Republican or Democrat but have to pay a fine of, wait for it, .50 cents.
And it looks like 3% who voted on the Republican ticket were Democrats and 17% were Independents.
So basically, 20% or a fifth of the voters on the Republican ticket were not even Republicans and yet we hear nothing about this on the MSM. Why?
And why don't Republicans get to pick their own nominee? Disgusting.
24. Posted by Baggi | January 29, 2008 11:17 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 23:17
25. Posted by Skip | January 29, 2008 11:21 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
"Now, what does this mean to conservatives who swore they would never vote for McCain should he become the nominee? I would hope that they would put aside their distaste and vote for McCain instead of electing a second President Clinton by sitting out."
Nope. Not going to happen. If the country is going to Hell anyways, why would I want to be responsible for any part of it?
25. Posted by Skip | January 29, 2008 11:21 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 23:21
26. Posted by Jim Addison | January 29, 2008 11:26 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
I don't disagree McCain could lose in Dole-like fashion, but I do disagree with the charge that there is no difference between him and Hillary/Obama. On security issues generally and Iraq specifically, on spending, on life issues, etc., there are stark differences, enough so that I will vote for him if he is the nominee.
I will root for Romney in the meantime, but as long as McCain's stalking horse, Huckabee, remains in the race to draw off conservative votes, it will be tough for Romney to win many states or enough delegates.
26. Posted by Jim Addison | January 29, 2008 11:26 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 23:26
27. Posted by NoMoreBlatherDotCom
| January 29, 2008 11:31 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Instead of wringing your hands, let me suggest going to McCain's appearances and asking him a better version of this. If you can't do it yourself, encourage others to do it. Make sure the question points out that he used to work for the MexicanGovernment, and make sure they get it on video.
27. Posted by NoMoreBlatherDotCom
| January 29, 2008 11:31 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on January 29, 2008 23:31
28. Posted by 914 | January 29, 2008 11:33 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
McCain is a liberal buddy of T Kennedy and Russ F. an unhealthy lout that would die in the first term. I will never vote for the creep, but I sure will vote against that garbage.
The media and a bunch of dems voting in Fla. are not picking my candidate..sockpuppetry of the left on parade with McCain. he is the medias tool to knock out any real conservative, so that either way a liberal wins the white house.
28. Posted by 914 | January 29, 2008 11:33 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 23:33
29. Posted by Knightbrigade | January 29, 2008 11:33 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
I have to agree with nehemiah--
Being a strong conservative, I too detest McCain.
As President he would be at worst incompetent, and appease the wrong people. But McCain wouldn't intentionally go out of his way to destroy this country with socialistic bullsh*t.
Shillary and B.Hussein Obama would be on a moonbat mission with an army of libtards.
PLEASE VOTE against ANY (D) in the general election, even if the (R) candidate is a dead chipmunk...VOTE (R)!!!!!!!
29. Posted by Knightbrigade | January 29, 2008 11:33 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 23:33
30. Posted by Herman | January 29, 2008 11:34 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
I told you some time ago, conservatives:
McCAIN FOR YOU, CONSERVATIVES!!! Did you think I was joking???
It will be helpful in the years ahead, conservatives, for you to have at least some understanding of the Spanish language. Let me help a little in this manner. If you want to pleasantly greet your Spanish-speaking neighbor, just say "Buenos Dias, amigo!" (This means "Good day, friend!").
30. Posted by Herman | January 29, 2008 11:34 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 23:34
31. Posted by Brian | January 29, 2008 11:35 PM | Score: -2 (6 votes cast)
Clinton's first term? The grade was sent home in the 1994
Well, if you want to back up two years to when his term was only halfway over, you're changing the subject. That doesn't change the fact that in 1996, at the end of his term, he had, again, "Approval Rating At All-Time High".
It was an historic defeat of a sitting President.
Historic? You need to brush up on history.
Losing seats? Hardly historic. So yeah, in 1994, the Dems lost seats, and it was enough to give control to Reps. True, that hasn't happened to Reps lately... only because they hadn't had Congress in 40 years (that's historic). What was actually "historic" for the Dems was...
And then, of course, we can fast-forward to 2006, which was also historic in that it was the first time ever that one party (Dems, in this case) didn't lose a single incumbent seat.
But now let's get back to the original topic, before your digression, which was Clinton's first term. Which, as previously noted, ended with "Approval Rating At All-Time High".
Perhaps Bush should try such "bungling".
31. Posted by Brian | January 29, 2008 11:35 PM |
Score: -2 (6 votes cast)
Posted on January 29, 2008 23:35
32. Posted by Brian | January 29, 2008 11:39 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
I don't disagree McCain could lose in Dole-like fashion
I don't think that's likely. He has a good chance of winning against Hilary, and would probably hold his own against Obama.
32. Posted by Brian | January 29, 2008 11:39 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 23:39
33. Posted by Matt | January 29, 2008 11:52 PM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
I don't think McCain will be another Dole. Dole didn't really want to be president, and campaigned like it. All he wanted was to make money lobbying and take viagra. Dole was merely the Senator that drew the short straw since somebody had to run against Clinton.
McCain truly wants to be president as bad as the Clintons do. There are so many things he wants to do as president. Eternal warfare, North American Union, open borders, squelching what little is left of free speech, etc to name a fes.. A vote for McCain is a vote for tyranny the likes of which the left only thinks Bush has been capable of.
I do not believe McCain is evil, but I do believe he is a deluded old man that can only see myopically through the lense of self interest.
Tyranny whether through indifference, accident or incompetence is just as bad as tyranny through malicious intent.
33. Posted by Matt | January 29, 2008 11:52 PM |
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Posted on January 29, 2008 23:52
34. Posted by James Cloninger | January 30, 2008 12:00 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Oh yeah... Clinton Approval Rating At All-Time High.
GW Bush still beats that figure: 92% in 2001
Even Bush Sr beats Clinton's highest rating.
If you want to pleasantly greet your Spanish-speaking neighbor, just say "Buenos Dias, amigo!" (This means "Good day, friend!").
How about the word "pendejo"...that's a word you should get used to hearing.
34. Posted by James Cloninger | January 30, 2008 12:00 AM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 30, 2008 00:00
35. Posted by AZ Disgusted | January 30, 2008 12:39 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Speaking as one of the "anybody but McCain" people from way back, yes, I said I'd never vote for McCain. Guess what? I actually mean it!
IMHO, the only way to get the republican party to clean up its act and get rid of big spenders and
open-borders types like McCain and Grahmnesty is to hand it an enormous defeat in november.
Therefor, I am strongly leaning to not only not voting McCain, but voting for the Dem.
Otherwise, we'd get four years of McCaain, and the Repub party getting smeared by his actions.
I'd rather hand the R party a big defeat now and get it over with.
So, count me as a "no way in hell" in Nov. if McCain is the R moninee. I'll even say I'll likely be voting D, unless a decent third party choi