Molly Baroness Meacher of the House of Lords in Britain said that severely disabled children are "not viable people" and should have been aborted because it would have been in their best interest. I kid you not:
Seriously disabled children should be considered non-persons and would be better off having been aborted, according to a Peer speaking in the House of Lords Tuesday. Attempting to couch her assertion in terms of children's "rights", Molly Baroness Meacher told the Lords that children born with severe disabilities are "not viable people".The comments came as the Lords debated an amendment to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill, put forward by Lady Swinton, Baroness Masham of Ilton, that would have protected unborn disabled children from abortion after the 24 week gestational time limit. The amendment was defeated by 89 votes to 22.
Under Britain's abortion law, children judged to have some form of disability, including such comparatively minor disabilities as club foot or cleft palate, can be aborted up to the time of natural birth.
Referring to two children she knows who were born prematurely with severe cerebral palsy, Baroness Meacher said, "They were natural births. Those two children cannot breathe naturally; they have to be helped to breathe. They will never talk. They lie on their backs and can do nothing."
"My belief is that there are children, born at those very early ages, who are not viable people. It would be in their best interests to have been aborted."
She said, "I want to speak about the rights of the child. The Mental Capacity Act refers to the child having capacity; if they do not have capacity, it is important for the professionals to consider their best interests."
"There rests my case. We need to consider the best interests of these babies."
To Baroness Meacher, it's in their best interests to die? This is monstrous. The national director of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children put it correctly when he said this:
"Baroness Meacher," Smeaton said, "clearly considers that her own capacity and achievements in life put her right to life in a different category from the right to life owed to people with cerebral palsy - that she is 'viable person' but 'they' are not 'viable people'."
This sounds like something out of a sick science fiction movie.



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Sounds more like a woman wh... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Scrapiron | February 1, 2008 9:55 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Sounds more like a woman who thinks she's smart because she's educated. There is a world of difference in the two. All of the education in the world won't make a stupid person smart.
1. Posted by Scrapiron | February 1, 2008 9:55 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 21:55
2. Posted by JLawson | February 1, 2008 10:13 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Bad SF movie is right. Hate to say it - but it reminds me of pre WW2 Germany's eugenics programs. Kill the retarded, the mentally deficient... can this woman not know the history of what she's proposing?
Or did she have her compassion surgically removed?
2. Posted by JLawson | February 1, 2008 10:13 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 22:13
3. Posted by HughS | February 1, 2008 10:22 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
She knows exactly what she is proposing. The Germans knew exactly what they were doing. Pleading ignorance is not an option for these people.
3. Posted by HughS | February 1, 2008 10:22 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 22:22
4. Posted by Matt | February 1, 2008 10:46 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
That Pre-WWII "German" eugenics program was quite popular in the Pre-WWII United States. Eugenics was quite a populer concept with the educated and elite in the U.S. The whole Abortion movement is based on the Eugenics concept that not all are worthy to live.
Meacher should be heartened though, Al Quaeda has found a use for the poor disabled souls that manage to make it past the butcher's knives and through a perilous childhood.
4. Posted by Matt | February 1, 2008 10:46 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 22:46
5. Posted by Dawn | February 1, 2008 10:48 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
The rather worrisome thing is that if severely disabled children are so categorized, then if the parents choose not to abort will the government eventually deny health care to the child?
5. Posted by Dawn | February 1, 2008 10:48 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 22:48
6. Posted by Andy | February 1, 2008 11:00 PM | Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
Seriously, can't you think of situations in which you would rather be dead than be forced to endure? I know I can. And I suspect that in her own clumsy way, that's what this baroness is saying.
In other words, if I were to lose my ability to think and do for myself, I certainly hope there would be someone who loved me nearby to pull the plug.
6. Posted by Andy | February 1, 2008 11:00 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 23:00
7. Posted by Jeff Blogworthy | February 1, 2008 11:08 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Let us not think for a moment that such sentiments are limited to those across the pond. We have a number of Peter Singer anus-lickers right here at home.
So-called "intellectuals" like Singer set the cultural tone and debate in ways we can hardly imagine. If you are shocked, it means you have not been paying attention.
7. Posted by Jeff Blogworthy | February 1, 2008 11:08 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 23:08
8. Posted by Ethan | February 1, 2008 11:21 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Personally, I find this frightening. As they talk about "disabled" and "mentally deficent", I have my own fears. I have Asperger's Syndrome, and I can't help but suspect that a form of autism would be considered "broken enough."
8. Posted by Ethan | February 1, 2008 11:21 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 23:21
9. Posted by Diane | February 1, 2008 11:30 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Let's broaden the abortion rights law to include aborting persons after birth who are not "viable" or wanted, and we can start with Ms. Meacher.
9. Posted by Diane | February 1, 2008 11:30 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 23:30
10. Posted by mikem
| February 1, 2008 11:33 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
"The whole Abortion movement is based on the Eugenics concept that not all are worthy to live."
Right on the mark. But try reminding African Americans, or pro-abortionists, of the racial eugenics origin of Planned Parenthood and their founder, Margaret Sanger, and you will called a racist and misogynist.
10. Posted by mikem
| February 1, 2008 11:33 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 23:33
11. Posted by Burt | February 1, 2008 11:56 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Is anyone else thinking of Stephen Hawkings?
11. Posted by Burt | February 1, 2008 11:56 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 23:56
12. Posted by Maggie | February 1, 2008 11:56 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
I hope Margaret Sanger was filled with remorse when she faced her Maker for the ideals and atrocities she recommended for those she disapproved of.
Her opinion of black people is well documented,
that's what planned parenthood is all about.
Some call it a black genocide taking place in
this country.
We crossed a deadly line when we crammed the
federal abortion law down every states throat.
How many millions of children have been taken
from their mothers wombs with violence?
12. Posted by Maggie | February 1, 2008 11:56 PM |
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Posted on February 1, 2008 23:56
13. Posted by JLawson | February 2, 2008 12:05 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
I brought up pre-WW2 Germany because they made no secret at all about their disposal of those they considered deficient.
Here stateside, we didn't set up facilities to euthanize the deficient. Sterilization? Yes - that happened. Killing outright? Not that I've been able to find.
13. Posted by JLawson | February 2, 2008 12:05 AM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 00:05
14. Posted by cirby | February 2, 2008 1:06 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
...but where are they going to get future members of the House of Lords?
14. Posted by cirby | February 2, 2008 1:06 AM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 01:06
15. Posted by vnjagvet
| February 2, 2008 1:34 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Sadly, that great classical liberal Winston Churchill is turning over in his grave.
15. Posted by vnjagvet
| February 2, 2008 1:34 AM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 01:34
16. Posted by hcddbz | February 2, 2008 6:32 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
This is the issue with "Quality of Life" augments it a rebranded form of Eugenics. First it deciding who to abort based on physical and mental capacities and then it move to population control. The NAZI part were socialist and one of the reason why we most all fully look at idea governments want to implement. Though marxist talk about religion in the name of socialist and communist thought millions were killed in the 20th century.
16. Posted by hcddbz | February 2, 2008 6:32 AM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 06:32
17. Posted by ptg | February 2, 2008 8:30 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
I've seen that bad SF movie. Its title is: "Our Future".
17. Posted by ptg | February 2, 2008 8:30 AM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 08:30
18. Posted by BlueNight | February 2, 2008 8:49 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
You think this is bad, consider that doctors routinely recommend the abortion of children determined to have Down's Syndrome.
Now consider that we are on the verge of finding the genetic root of Autism. (No, it's not Mercuritol - I mean, Thimerosal.) What do you think will happen when the genetic test for Autism is readily available?
Abortions; lots of them. The Autism Rights movement has coined a word for this: Eugenicide.
18. Posted by BlueNight | February 2, 2008 8:49 AM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 08:49
19. Posted by Uncle Pinky | February 2, 2008 10:04 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
On the plus side, we've got another story out of the UK where a lad named John Smeaton tells it like it is.
19. Posted by Uncle Pinky | February 2, 2008 10:04 AM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 10:04
20. Posted by baslimthecripple | February 2, 2008 10:52 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The Nazi term was Lebensunwertes Leben, life not worthy of living. The baroness has picked some fine folks to emulate. The only part missing after liquidating these lives is liquifying them - Soylent Green is people.
20. Posted by baslimthecripple | February 2, 2008 10:52 AM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 10:52
21. Posted by epador | February 2, 2008 11:23 AM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Don't forget Tuskegee. A product of the US Public Health Service. Or the attempted extermination of Native Americans. There's plenty of shame in history to spread around, the Germans have no corner on the market.
We have conveniently minimized our own genocidal policies, as we did it in a "kinder and gentler" manner more recently. However, when the US Army wore blue, our murder of races we felt beneath us was an accepted institutional policy.
Or the Spanish on the many races of Central and South America.
But I digress.
The point is that infanticide has been an established feature of human nature for recorded history. Attempts to control this tendency, rationalize it, institutionalize it, or hide it in plain sight continue to this day. That doesn't make it moral.
21. Posted by epador | February 2, 2008 11:23 AM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 11:23
22. Posted by Jeff Blogworthy | February 2, 2008 11:45 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
In March, 05 I wrote a humorous satire about this very thing. In retrospect, I still think it's not bad. View it here.
22. Posted by Jeff Blogworthy | February 2, 2008 11:45 AM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 11:45
23. Posted by Allison | February 2, 2008 3:37 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
As a mother of a baby that died from anencephaly this article makes me sick! The minutes I had with my daughter mean more to me than anything on Earth. Is it in the baby's best interest to die a cold sterile death or the experience love from their families? Who are they do decide that a baby should die because of their physical or mental difficulties? Next thing you know you're going to be able to abort your baby based on their eye color.
23. Posted by Allison | February 2, 2008 3:37 PM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 15:37
24. Posted by Mitchell | February 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This Meacher is on par with al Quaeda, apparently, in her thinking.
This is what happens to fat, content, affluent societies that have lost there way. The end up stupid, and immoral.
24. Posted by Mitchell | February 2, 2008 5:41 PM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 17:41
25. Posted by Mitchell | February 2, 2008 5:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And, their members can't type.;>)
25. Posted by Mitchell | February 2, 2008 5:46 PM |
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Posted on February 2, 2008 17:46