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Obama Supporters Can't Name One of His Accomplishments

One lady cited his experience as a community leader. The biggest response was that he was inspirational. Oh boy are we in trouble as a country when people are prepared to elect a man president because of how he makes them feel. It's the Oprahfication of America.

Via Hot Air


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I saw that last night. The ... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

I saw that last night. The deer-in-the-headlights look on those knuckleheads was just priceless.

KimWhat were Georg... (Below threshold)
joe:

Kim

What were George Bush's achievements prior to becoming President? And his achievemnts since? The man can barely communicate.

Maybe you should stick to writing about "Mommyness" or other such saccharine trivialities because your cut and paste political observations are a waste of bandwidth.

Cheery bye!

hey joeGW was a su... (Below threshold)

hey joe

GW was a successful governor. You know, an executive of a state which means doing a job similar to what the president of a country does. As opposed to someone who consistently ducked tough votes with "present" in order to leave as small an issues footprint as possible.

Obamachrist IS about "feeling" and not much more .... his supplicants are looking for a religious fix.

Kim

feel free to use my photoshop of the phenominum.

Joe, do some homework befor... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

Joe, do some homework before typing on here please.

Wasn't it just yesterday wh... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Wasn't it just yesterday when Kim wrote something about the Democrat base proving themselves to be be the stupidest, most gullible group of morons known to man?

As if that needed proving. It been proven long ago.

It's no wonder the Communists targeted them for "capture". (Ref. See esp #15 & 21)

Right Kim. Obama accomplis... (Below threshold)

Right Kim. Obama accomplished absolutely has accomplished absolutely nothing during his entire career. Keep telling yourself that all the way to his inauguration.

oh kewl Larkin, Obamachrist... (Below threshold)

oh kewl Larkin, Obamachrist is a tough negotiator on legislation

what PRACTICAL experience has he had at running anything? Has he worked with budgets? Employees?

He's being marketed as a black Kennedy ... all handsome, rhetorical and royally groomed.

He could win, of course ... there are a lot of people who narcistically see in Obama what THEY project upon the wearer of the mirror suit. That's very comforting.

I seem to have ruffled a fe... (Below threshold)
joe:

I seem to have ruffled a few feathers here!

Ronald Reagan was a "B" actor. George Bush Senior was a former VP. Clinton was a former state governor. In essence, over the last 20 years or, with exception of Bush senior, the various presidential candidates have come from virtual obscurity.

Regardless, few of have them have been prepared for what is probably the most important political office in the world. Dubya, without exception has been a complete and utter disaster. His handling of the economy speaks for itself. On the world stage, America's image has taken a beating, such that it's traditional allies are aghast at what is going on in Iraq.

Misinformation, disinformation and fear have been used indiscriminately over the last 8 years by a regime hell bent on pursuing it's own senseless policies.

O Bama may be a greenhorn, but he maybe just the breath of fresh air that America needs. Moreover given that the whole political process is being played out like a poor Hollywood movie; Dubya is Rainman or Forest without any of the redeeming qualities or hidden talents. O Bama atleast talks the talk. Lets see if he can walk the walk.

Joe, you forget Reagan was ... (Below threshold)

Joe, you forget Reagan was also Governor of California, which has an economy that rivals that of other nations.....

holy hell do you leave out important info or what?

joe, that was as vapid as w... (Below threshold)
SPQR:

joe, that was as vapid as we expect from Obama supporters.

Hmm. Joe likes to select w... (Below threshold)
epador:

Hmm. Joe likes to select what facts he wants to spout. Reagan had a track record of success in State governance (and in labor) before he took a stab at the Presidency. Bubba and GWB had State governance track records, though comparing Arkansas to Texas is indeed a stretch. GH had quite a government service history. The O-man has one unfinished Senate slot with some shakey past history in the Chicago machine. Even Hillary has more experience than him.

So joe's argument appears t... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

So joe's argument appears to be that although Obama has no accomplishments, never ran or managed anything, has a sparce legislative record, and campaigns with no substance-only platitudes we should take a chance ("Lets see if he can walk the walk") and just go ahead and make him the most powerful man in the world.

Yeah, what harm could that do?

B Hussein Obama is just wha... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

B Hussein Obama is just what the rest of the world is looking for in a POTUS, a person they can walk all over and he's so stupid (politically) that he'll smile and thank them. He won't be the most powerful man in the world and the U.S. will again be the 'target' of every attack in the world (see the 90's) without fear of a return attack. Just be prepared to bend over and assume the position, the Bubba's of the world will be ready for you and your government will insist you cooperate.

I assume Joe is a product of the current liberal democrat educational system. He knows the IPOD but don't know what happened in this country in the past 40 years. He could be sucking up to be VP for Osama/Obama.

Larkin, I see your point. O... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

Larkin, I see your point. Obama has had some GREAT votes....along with being a real hardass....in the Illinois state legislature. LOLOL

Hard to argue with such credentials.

Can't wait for him to invade Pakistan......

I think we are overlooking ... (Below threshold)
MagicalPat:

I think we are overlooking something huge here. It's not even that Obama has not accomplished anything. He hasn't. It's that these people are willing to vote for him without a cogent reason why other than he's inspirational.

They don't know his lack of accomplishment and they don't care. But they are convinced he can do the job.

When P.T. Barnum said a sucker was born every minute, he was obviously talking about Democrats.

I'm shocked that people wil... (Below threshold)
mantis:

I'm shocked that people willing to take part in a Luntz focus group aren't too bright. Shocked, I tell ya!

KimWhere'd my post... (Below threshold)
drjohn:

Kim

Where'd my post go?

The second paragraph <a hre... (Below threshold)
sean nyc/aa:

The second paragraph here has a list of some of Obama's accomplishments. They're included as part of an endorsement, so clearly there's some bias, but it's worth reading the whole thing as the author provides substantive detail and insight about some of the topics.

Virtual obscurity? An extr... (Below threshold)

Virtual obscurity? An extremely well known actor that was governor of California as well as prominent in Republican politics? Man, what does it take to get noticed in this country? Somebody go tell Ah-nold that he's wallowing in virtual obscurity.

"The biggest response wa... (Below threshold)
drjohn:

"The biggest response was that he was inspirational."

Falwell was inspirational.

So is Roberts.

So is Joel Osteen.

So was Hitler.

Two major accomplishment fo... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

Two major accomplishment for Obama: (1) 100% abortion rating from NARAL, including voting against providing medical care for surviving aborted babies, and (2) voting consistently for American defeat in Iraq, (3) big gov (as pointed in Sean 's link)

In other words, Obama is 100% for the liberal agenda of "killing babies, not terrorists" big gov. In addition, his association with pastor Wrigth 's racist and anti-Seimitic church (together with his selection of foreign policy advisors) indicates that he will be more extreme about giving the terrorists & their sponsors the upper hand against Israel. Maybe liberals are excited about the prospect of another holocaust or at least more Israel women/children be blown up while Israel is pressured to give up more land and tear down the wall for the protection of their people.

"The biggest response was t... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

"The biggest response was that he was inspirational."
...
So was Hitler.
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Good point.
So was Stalin

So was Mao Tse Tung

So was Bill Clinton

<a href="http://www.killfil... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Godwin called. He said you guys are idiots.

The liberals are simply voi... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

The liberals are simply void of substances and idiots, who are easily led by vapid rhetoric. Look at Sean's website, Obama 's accomplishment is basically nothing: no major bills like McCain-Feingold etc... It is a laundry list of bills that he had signed on etc... About the ethics bill, someone forgot to mention about Obama 's association with Rezko for example. The level of ignorance displayed by some liberals on this thread is amazing. The support of liberals for Obama simply boils down to his ability to "inspire" ie lie with a straight face to hide his true liberal convictions of killing babies, not terrorists, big gov.

Basically liberals used to be excited about Bill Clinton, until he turned his lies on another liberal. Now Obama is the 2nd coming of Bill Clinton for the liberal left. That
's all there is to it.

And this is a good summary<... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

And this is a good summary
The Liberal View Of Change And Diversity

The liberal view of "diversity" is a black guy, a white guy, and a woman all espousing the same ultra-liberal ideas as they run for the Presidency.

On the other hand, the liberal view of "change" is a young, black guy espousing the same ultra-liberal ideas that old, white guys like Ted Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, and John Kerry have been pushing for years.


Whoa there, mantis.<p... (Below threshold)
Uncle Pinky:

Whoa there, mantis.

I think Godwin's call was for drjohn. The Immigrant was just quoting, so careful with that pluralization. It's not up to your usual standard.

Joe, Joe where did you go??... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Joe, Joe where did you go??!!!

Bwhahahahahahah......Obama supporters (or rather all democrats) are just ignorant. Too funny.

The Immigrant was just q... (Below threshold)
mantis:

The Immigrant was just quoting, so careful with that pluralization. It's not up to your usual standard.

Read it again:

So was Hitler.
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Good point.

Godwin called. He said y... (Below threshold)
drjohn:

Godwin called. He said you guys are idiots.

Damn, it didn't work.

Godwin called. He said you ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

Godwin called. He said you guys are idiots.

Damn, it didn't work.
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Good point again. That 's why we still have idiotic posts from mantis and drjohn.

It's amazing what a nerve t... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

It's amazing what a nerve this touches-I emailed this to some Dem friends a few hours ago and whoooo hooo did I get the emails. The debates are going to be fun this summer. Either one will show up with an empty suitcase.

The people who have real ac... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

The people who have real accomplishments on the Dem side are Richardson and probably Biden. Again, liberals cannot be even honest about what an empty suit Obama is.

Godwin's Corollary: ... (Below threshold)
drjohn:

Godwin's Corollary:

Godwin's Law doesn't work on liberals often enough.

No sale, mantis. Sure, the... (Below threshold)
Uncle Pinky:

No sale, mantis. Sure, there was no sarc tag to the "Good point" but it was pretty heavily implied. One might as well take your shock at Luntz's focus group seriously. You seem to be stretching to make an unflattering generalization and that isn't like you. Unless you actually believe the commenter was equating Clinton and Hitler, Mao et al. you are giving this less than a fair read, or there is some history here that I am unaware of.

As an Illinois resident, I ... (Below threshold)
hermie:

As an Illinois resident, I can tell you that Obama was NOT a leader in the Il Senate, and was just another footsoldier for the Daley Democrats.

Far from being in favor of 'Change', he went along with the corruption of his Chicago patrons, including backing Todd Stroger for Chairman of the Cook County Board. Todd Stroger copied his father's fondness for hiring relatives onto the County payroll and raising taxes every chance he got.


It's amusing listening Dem'... (Below threshold)
drjohn:

It's amusing listening Dem's comparing Obama to JFK. He is absolutely the anti-JFK.

JFK said to ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Obama says ask not what you can do for your country- ask just how much your country can give to you.

Unless you actually beli... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Unless you actually believe the commenter was equating Clinton and Hitler, Mao et al. you are giving this less than a fair read, or there is some history here that I am unaware of.

Yeah, I don't think you're very familiar with Love America, Immigrant!

Mantis cannot be honest as ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

Mantis cannot be honest as usual. Go back and read Mantis. If you need me to point it out to you, then I can try to do it slowly. But stop your cheap spin again.

Let me know if you need some help.

After looking at Larkin's l... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

After looking at Larkin's list of accomplishments, I know why his supporters have been kept in the dark.

Kind of destroys the fascade of a 'Uniter' when you're at the extreme end of the political spectrum. Not so much for any individual issue, just the totality of them together.

Why I would vote for Grima ... (Below threshold)

Why I would vote for Grima Wormtongue vs. Obama:

At least his name isn't Grima Hussein Wormtongue!


This sums it up.</... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

This sums it up.

He's young, good looking, black, funny, charismatic, and has a great voice -- and let's be honest, that encompasses about 95% of Obama's appeal, plus, as an added bonus, The Rock is only marginally less qualified to actually be President than Barack and can do a great elbow drop.

Did anybody ever tell these... (Below threshold)

Did anybody ever tell these bozos that JFK was a tax-cutter? That he was an ardent anti-Communist; not a Castro-lover like Obama? Guess not.

Yeah, I don't think you'... (Below threshold)
Uncle Pinky:

Yeah, I don't think you're very familiar with Love America, Immigrant!

Cool enough. I'm just not used to generalizations on your part, so it's good to know there is a reason. This is the first time this fellow popped up on my radar, but I've been sadly lax in my reading (or even skimming) these days.

<a href="http://www.rightwi... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

This sums it up.

He's young, good looking, black, funny, charismatic, and has a great voice -- and let's be honest, that encompasses about 95% of Obama's appeal, plus, as an added bonus, The Rock is only marginally less qualified to actually be President than Barack and can do a great elbow drop.

Pinky, Welcome to W... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

Pinky,
Welcome to Wizbang. You will get to know more about Mantis. He is a better one compared to other liberal trolls on this blog.

-Obama passed legislation w... (Below threshold)
RJ:

-Obama passed legislation with Republican Senator Jim Talent to give gas stations a tax credit for installing E85 ethanol refueling pumps. The tax credit covers 30 percent of the costs of switching one or more traditional petroleum pumps to E85, which is an 85 percent ethanol/15 percent gasoline blend.

-After a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Senator Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.

-His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent.

-Obama created the Illinois Earned Income Tax Credit for low-income working families in 2000 and successfully sponsored a measure to make the credit permanent in 2003. The law offered about $105 million in tax relief over three years.

-Obama joined forces with former U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL) to pass the toughest campaign finance law in Illinois history. The legislation banned the personal use of campaign money by Illinois legislators and banned gifts from lobbyists. Before the law was passed, one organization ranked Illinois worst among 50 states for its campaign finance regulations.

-As a member of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama has fought to help Illinois veterans get the disability pay they were promised, while working to prepare the VA for the return of the thousands of veterans who will need care after Iraq and Afghanistan.

-He traveled to Russia with Republican **** Lugar to begin a new generation of non-proliferation efforts designed to find and secure deadly weapons around the world.

-Obama has been a leading advocate for protecting the right to vote, helping to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act and leading the opposition against discriminatory barriers to voting.

- In the U.S. Senate, Obama introduced the STOP FRAUD Act to increase penalties for mortgage fraud and provide more protections for low-income homebuyers, well before the current subprime crisis began.

-Obama sponsored legislation to combat predatory payday loans, and he also was credited with lobbied the state to more closely regulate some of the most egregious predatory lending practices.

-Barack Obama introduced the Patriot Employer Act of 2007 to provide a tax credit to companies that maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in America relative to those outside the US; maintain their corporate headquarters in America; pay decent wages; prepare workers for retirement; provide health insurance; and support employees who serve in the military.

-Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services.

-Obama has introduced and helped pass bipartisan legislation to limit the abuse of no-bid federal contracts.

-Obama and Senator Feingold (D-WI) took on both parties and proposed ethics legislation that was described as the "gold standard" for reform. It was because of their leadership that ending subsidized corporate jet travel, mandating disclosure of lobbyists' bundling of contributions, and enacting strong new restrictions of lobbyist-sponsored trips became part of the final ethics bill that was signed into law.

I really could list many, many more but I fear it would be too much to take in at one time. I hope this helps some of you know him a little better

what PRACTICAL experienc... (Below threshold)
Brian:

what PRACTICAL experience has he had at running anything? Has he worked with budgets? Employees?

Did Bush have practical experience invading other states?

Did Bush have practical exp... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

Did Bush have practical experience invading other states?
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Another stupid comment from Brian to distract the thread.

Pinky, here is your introduction to one of the worst liberal trolls on this blog.

RJ, it is amazing how many ... (Below threshold)
SPQR:

RJ, it is amazing how many of the "accomplishments" you list are really failed attempts.

Brian, wipe the drool off your shirt and grow up.

I am constantly being told ... (Below threshold)

I am constantly being told that Obama is black, when we all know his mother is white, which brings up a question bigger than just an election.

What makes a man black? Doesn't one white parent make him just as white as he is black? Or do Obama's supporters adhere to the disgusting old KKK notion that even a drop of black DNA makes you "tainted"?

It is a vile racist way of looking at things. The whole idea of race is stupid if you have to categorize somebody as one race or another. It is scientifically fraudulent. It's more complicated than that. There is no physical measurement to determine a person's "race," other than self-identification, or through simplistic labels based on stereotype and prejudicial impressions.

Unfortunately, this is what Obama is running on, the fact that he has darker skin than Hillary, even though it was his white parent who raised him, not the father (who abandoned them both). That entire half of his heritage is to be ignored, because it doesn't gain him any political mileage.

It's sad that this is what Presidential politics has come down to.

Of course, Hillary is running on the fact that she's a woman. Fortunately, people aren't buying that.


Of course, Hillary... (Below threshold)
SPQR:
Of course, Hillary is running on the fact that she's a woman. Fortunately, people aren't buying that.
That is hilarious.

It really isn't her most believable claim ...

"Yeah, I don't think you... (Below threshold)

"Yeah, I don't think you're very familiar with Love America, Immigrant!"

When "Uncle Pinky" previously said this, "You seem to be stretching to make an unflattering generalization and that isn't like you," I figure he's not very familiar with Mantis either.

In comparison to JFK,</i... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

In comparison to JFK, Obama seems to have done more and been more admired by his colleagues than JFK, who at the same period in his life was coming off a surprisingly mediocre and undistinguinded career in the Senate.

Kennedy was judged "an ambitious but superficial playboy" by his liberal peers, according to his biographer Robert Dallek. "He never said a word of importance in the Senate, and he never did a thing," in the authoritative estimation of the Senate's master, Lyndon Johnson.
I really could list many, m... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

I really could list many, many more but I fear it would be too much to take in at one time. I hope this helps some of you know him a little better
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I am amazed that we need to explain this. As a legislator, he is supposed to pass laws! Just like a teacher shows the list of classes she has taught. Look at McCain for example: he has McCain-Feingold

Let 's take ethics reform. It is a joke. What has he done wrt to pork? Murtha is the king of porks now? Coburn for example have been leading against pork. At least Feingold has led on a number of legislations. Time to be honest and admit that Obama is an empty suit when it comes to accomplishments.

Again, for the clueless lib... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

Again, for the clueless liberals. What made Obama 's list more special compared to the list of other 99 senators? Nothing in this case.

TJ - "Obama passed legi... (Below threshold)
marc:

TJ - "Obama passed legislation with Republican Senator Jim Talent to give gas stations a tax credit for installing E85 ethanol refueling pumps. The tax credit covers 30 percent of the costs of switching one or more traditional petroleum pumps to E85

And this is rated as some great accomplishment. How so?

First of all if Talent or Obama gave a rats ass they would repeal the surcharge on Ethanol from South America. It's based on sugar not corn and would lower the prices.

Secondly, if they had clue number one they would know the EU policy to get 10% of Europe's road fuels from plants has been a dismal failure.

It has led to the EU Environment Commissioner Stavros Dimas to note "reports have warned that some biofuels barely cut emissions at all - and others can lead to rainforest destruction, drive up food prices, or prompt rich firms to drive poor people off their land to convert it to fuel crops."

Marc, If Talent com... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

Marc,
If Talent comes to us and claims that legislation as one of his great accomplishments, we would laugh at him.

"His accomplishments inc... (Below threshold)

"His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services."

Alarm bells went off right away with this one.

It seems Obama is so concerned with women's health that when the vote came up in December for Amdt. No. 3673 to the Farm, Nutrition, and Bioenergy Act of 2007, Obama didn't even vote. That amendment states that it was "To improve women's access to heath care services in rural areas and provide improved medical care by reducing the excessive burden the liability system places on the delivery of obstetrical and gynecological services."

Obama is so concerned with women's health that when a motion also came up (last September I believe) to table Amdt. No.3321 to the appropriations bill for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education which states: "To provide additional care for pregnant women, mothers, and infants by eliminating a $1,000,000 earmark for a museum dedicated to Woodstock," he didn't vote.

That's without even checking his other "accomplishments".

RJ,I'll leave the de... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

RJ,
I'll leave the debate to others, over whether or not the things on your list are accomplishments.
The point of this posting, is not that we can't name anything he's done. The point is that people excited and motivated to vote for him cannot.

You may have a laundry list of reason to vote for the man, but clearly the people that can only say he is inspirational don't.

All this talk about how "in... (Below threshold)
Korla Pundit Author Profile Page:

All this talk about how "inspirational" Obama is supposed to be...

His supporters should recall Thomas Edison's description of genius: 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration.

The question they can't answer: Where's Obama's 99%?

It is a crazy test for pick... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

It is a crazy test for picking a Prez, i.e. "he's so inspirrrrrrational!"

Hell, Hitler was inspirational.

What if we woke up and got Obama, and then found out he was inspiratioinal, but in harmful ways through his lack of policies, philosophy?

uh marc,I,m tj.not that oth... (Below threshold)
tj:

uh marc,I,m tj.not that other guyRJ. sokay,it,s all good...:)

Obama is an empty suit. Eve... (Below threshold)
solorunner:

Obama is an empty suit. Even his followers are advised when questioned about his accomplishments to change the topic and talk about how he makes them feel. Sad day in this country where an eggplant like this could even be considered qualified to run the country.

I'm with Anne Coulter. If ... (Below threshold)
RA:

I'm with Anne Coulter. If women were denied the vote we would never have another liberal president.

I'm also with Anne about McCain. If Jaun McAmnesty is the guy I'll vote for Hillary. Ultra Right Conservatives For Hillary.

There are only two prerequi... (Below threshold)
Brian:

There are only two prerequisites for being President, one is being born a U.S citizen, the other is having reached the age of 35. Obama qualifies on both points. Everyone is free to make up their own minds in whatever manner they choose - this is the beauty of freedom. And before you jump on me I am not an Obama supporter.

There are only two... (Below threshold)
There are only two prerequisites for being President, one is being born a U.S citizen, the other is having reached the age of 35. Obama qualifies on both points.

That's exceptionally hilarious.

In the "born in the USA" category, Hillary did it first. Obama is only following her lead.

As for reaching age 35, John McCain has done that twice.

That makes a great campaign ad: "Obama. He was born here. He's over 35. What more can anybody ask?!"

Neither Obama nor Hillary h... (Below threshold)
Dylan Tynan:

Neither Obama nor Hillary have a tremendous amount of national governmental experience .. a couple/few years as US Senators. Obama can add some state experience as a state legislator in Illinois. But, people generally vote for candidates based on what they believe the candidate will do for them in the future, less so for things of the past (for the most part).

Of course, neither Romney nor George W. Bush had any national governmental experience at all when they ran. Republicans, particularly Conservatives, didn't seem to have problems with those guys. The typical argument is that somehow Governor of a State qualifies you more for President than US Senator does over the same timeframe (or running a company, like Romney, which really isn't that comparable). Their idea is that a Governor is an Executive position, and that, somehow, US Senator,being a Legislative position, doesn't equal said Governor for Presidential experience ... however, that ignores the fact that US Senator is national and you're 1 of 100 senators... Governor is just for your state, and you're one of 50 states. Being a national position is significant since it means you're working with others in congress, making connections, deals, national diplomats / lobbyists / politicians, etc. - things that a President might find useful when trying to implement his agenda. In my opinion, Gov. vs. US Senator works out about equal... The primary reason why you see more Governors elected is that, in this stupid sound-bite mentality we've been in, it's extremely easy to attack Legislators on their long record of votes by finding some obscure bizarre provision in some bill that they voted for and weren't even aware of said provision.... I guess another argument someone might use is that Bush is from a "big state". Well, I live in Texas, so I'm well aware that Governor of Texas is very, very weak position. Texas is a "weak-governor" state. Most of the power was moved to the Lt. Governor many years ago ... and Bush was not Lt. Governor. While not completely a figurehead, I guarantee you that Gov. of Texas is nothing like President of the United States (the wikipedia description is actually decent -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Texas ).

Besides, since when did Conservatives suddenly care about government experience? Aren't you guys (and some of ye olde Ross Perot Reform types) always babbling endlessly about putting an "outsider" into Washington, not a Washington insider? Shake things up yaknow? OHHHHHH, that's right, you gotta shift the argument because McCain has been there for many years.....

Frankly, I think McCain is far more qualified than anyone else. I think you Conservatives are basically idiots for trying to push away a war hero with a good (actually truly conservative, not like Bush) record of trying to cut spending and not blindly cutting taxes without appropriate spending cuts to offset. Unfortunately, it looks like the loudmouths on the extreme edges are pulling McCain too far from the center, where his strength is. Wake up folks, extremism is not healthy ... compromise, work together, try to actually get solutions, not BS partisan sound-bite sniping... only a few years left to fix our financial mess before the baby-boom retirements & the quick descent to insolvency.

Dylan Tynan

I see the results of a lot ... (Below threshold)
anthony:

I see the results of a lot of finger wagging here, but no one is coming up with any prior acomplishments for any of the people mentioned, including Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, other than the fact that they held public office before being elected president. And being a governor doesn't necessarily prepare you for being a president, even though both qualify as executive seats. As president, you're stuck with a whole host of issues you could never, ever imagine encountering as governor, and the stakes as president are far higher.

The best training for the presidency is your first term as president. PERIOD.

Now, someone please tell me what Clinton and Bush ACHIEVED as governors of their respective states.

By the way, Korla, the "one... (Below threshold)
anthony:

By the way, Korla, the "one drop theory" is not a KKK notion; it is an AMERICAN notion. Besides, we're ALL mixed, whether we're from the shores of Europe or Africa. At some early or not far distant epoch, the blood of all of our ancestors was indeed mixed with that of our conquerors or slaves. The Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, French, Turks, Greek .... I could go on, all brought a strain of black African blood with them to the New World. Simon Bolivar, as well as Napoleon, once declared, "Europe begins at the Pyrenees." They were, however, mistaken in that the French, both male and female, mixed quite liberally with their African slaves and subjects. Even Collette was a product of a mixed liaison.

The concept of race is the most bogus concept man has ever concocted.




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