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Divisive and Divided

Maryland -- Closed Democrat Primary
(a "blue state" since 1988)

Whites: Clinton, 51-46.
Blacks: Obama, 88-11.

White women: Clinton, 55-42.
Black women: Obama, 88-11.
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Bonus points to the first liberal student or professor who can figure out a way to downplay those dichotomies *without* demonstrating a severe case of brain dysfunction.


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Perhaps The Thought Police ... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Perhaps The Thought Police should investigate.

Bonus points to the firs... (Below threshold)
ras:

Bonus points to the first liberal student or professor who can figure out a way to downplay those dichotomies *without* demonstrating a severe case of brain dysfunction.

You're gonna have PETA on your case for cruelty to the animals, Javitz!

JJ, why are you such an ass... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

JJ, why are you such an ass on this subject? Obama won half the vote of whites and hispanics. After super Tuesday (CA primary) you said democrats were divisive because Hillary won more than half the white and hispanic vote.

So which is it?

Also, I heard on MSNBC that 70% of evangelics voted republican in MD, so does that make republicans divisive? In UT, 90% of the Mormons voted for Romney, so does that make republicans religious intolerant?

Perhaps The Though... (Below threshold)
HughS:

Perhaps The Thought Police should investigate.

Are the Thought Police even voting? Are they registered? Do they actually exist? Outside of a campus or newsroom, that is?

That sound of shattering glass we hear may not be the ceiling but, rather, the floor falling out from beneath the World Headquarters of the Thought Police.

Listen closely....the sound you hear is Trotsky laughing.

Looks like the Blacks are m... (Below threshold)
914:

Looks like the Blacks are more apt to vote by race than Women are to vote by gender.

Barak needs to fly those Cuban flags high and proud..

Barncommie, We kno... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

Barncommie,
We know honesty is not your trait. Honest liberals know that dem party is all about racism and sexism. And you cannot even spin logically. 70% of evangelicals voted Republican in MD. What is the relationship to racism? Using your stupid argument, then Huckabee should have won because evangelicals would have voted for him 90% just like blacks voted for Obma? Also maybe 70% voted Rep because the liberal dem agenda of "killing babies, not terrorists".

The Republicans only have b... (Below threshold)
spartan07:

The Republicans only have broad support among one ethnic/racial group in the country, white people. So of course the Republicans wouldn't have this problem.

Spartan, Thanks for... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, ImmigrantL:

Spartan,
Thanks for admitting that racism is a natural part of the Dem party. That 's why dems keep playing the race card. Again, thanks for proving JJ 's point: the dems are divisive and playing race, gender, and class warfare to divide people. THat 's exactly what is happening in the dem primary.

"JJ, why are you such an as... (Below threshold)
jp2:

"JJ, why are you such an ass on this subject?"

Because he is an ass. He flings poo, then runs away.

Hilarious that the party running a black man is the racist party, btw. Keep pushing that meme.

Bill Clinton (the first bla... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, ImmigrantL:

Bill Clinton (the first black president) says race, gender to decide S.C. vote.

I wonder why liberals voted and defended such an ass for so long.

Well Jayson, it appears tha... (Below threshold)
ryan a:

Well Jayson, it appears that Obama is doing pretty well with a certain segment of the population, isn't he?

And your point is?

JJ, judging by the... (Below threshold)
ras:

JJ,

judging by the gurgling noises, you hit the jugular. I'll remember that ... and just which argument did it ... as will we we all. My thanks to the trolls for their hiliting efforts; they serve their purpose here well.

Barney, the evangelicals ar... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

Barney, the evangelicals are voting on issues, the blacks are voting on skin color (since he has yet to discuss issues), That's the difference.

msnbc huh? So you're the one...

PretzelLogic, you just prov... (Below threshold)
JFO:

PretzelLogic, you just proved what an ignorant jackass you are. Whether you're a racist or just ignorant I don't know. Nice sweeping broad generalization of those "dumb" dark people. And you people wonder why you're the party of middle aged white men and women and goofball right wingers and nothing or no one else?

JFO, looks like YOU are the... (Below threshold)
JP:

JFO, looks like YOU are the ignorant jackass. Pretzel didn't infer any group was dumb- he spoke fact, which is: Black people are voting for Obama and a big draw is that Obama is black. Just like white women are more inclined to vote for Hillary. And it's also true that the Democrats are divided among race and gender lines. Every Black person I know is voting for Obama, and they all readily admit that the Blacks THEY know are voting Obama, and that Obama's skin color is the main attraction. And maybe you've not noticed celebrity women being livid that other females might have the audacity to NOT vote for the female candidate? (like Roseanne attacking Oprah for betraying her gender by supporting... wait for it... the BLACK candidate instead of the FEMALE candidate.) I know most Democrats simply cannot accept the fact that they are divided, but truth is truth. Don't slap an "ignorance" or "racist" label on anyone who points out the truth, because you only show your own ignorance.

JPI wonder if you ... (Below threshold)
JFO:

JP

I wonder if you have read any of the exit polling for last night's primaries. If you have then I'm sure you'll be honest enough to acknowledge that Obama won he majority of voters 65 and older, blue collar workers and women. The white vote was split evenly. In Virginia he won 59-41 among women.

So this notion that Democrats are "divided" is a right wing wet dream conjured up because you folks are terrified that your irrelevance is coming to fruition.

JFO is right for once. THe ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, ImmigrantL:

JFO is right for once. THe audicity of ignorance in the service of the "killing babies, not terrorists" big agenda have propelled Obama to be the Messiah of the Dem party. Even liberal women are falling for him now.

WE have to give Obama the credit. He is good at the liberal game. He is beating the veteran "good liar" Bill Clinton at his own game.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2269063,00.html

Just went to the MSNBC webs... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, ImmigrantL:

Just went to the MSNBC website
Hil Oba Others
White 53 52 42 2
Black 37 15 84 1
Hispanic / Latino 4 55 45

Clearly a division among race there among the dem primary. Obama won simply because blacks are voting for him in much larger percentage.


PretzelLogic, you just prov... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

PretzelLogic, you just proved what an ignorant jackass you are. Whether you're a racist or just ignorant I don't know. Nice sweeping broad generalization of those "dumb" dark people. And you people wonder why you're the party of middle aged white men and women and goofball right wingers and nothing or no one e
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Hey Moron, I am responding to Barney-NOT the numbers. My conclusion is simple. Obama is keeping his position on anything important more of a secret than who Carly Simon wrote 'your so vain' about. That's all I'm saying. I live in his state and follow this stuff pretty closely. I cant tell you what he's done to deserve the job he has much less a consideration to be President of the United States. Give some thought to the discussion at hand before you go off on someone. You dont know me or anything about me.

I know from what I read. An... (Below threshold)
JFO:

I know from what I read. And what you wrote was clear - it was you assuming black voters vote for Obama by color only. That's either ignorant or racist. You make a generalized statement about an entire group of people which has as its assumption that they vote ONLY because of his color.

As to your idiotic posit that he hasn't discussed the issues you are either lying about following him or you are deaf and don't have any reading comprehension. His positions are clear. He articulates them regularly and they are set out on his campaign website. Disagree with them all you want but to say he doesn't discuss them is just stupid.

methinks he doth protest to... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

methinks he doth protest too much

I'll ad this you race baiti... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

I'll ad this you race baiting hothead. I think this country could use a black president. I think it would go a long way to help the racial problem we have. Unfortunately, Obama's not it. He'll either get beat by Hillary or John McCain, at which time I suggest he come back and run for Governor of Illinois. Get a few gray hairs and work off his ultra-liberal record. Give it another run in eight or twelve years.

"...the blacks are voting o... (Below threshold)
JFO:

"...the blacks are voting on skin color..."

Pretty clear to me that's either ignorant or racist. Tell me what evidence you have to make that assumption.

a 30 point difference in wh... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

a 30 point difference in white vs. black democrat voters? That's not an opinion. It's the point of this entire thread you idiot.

"...the blacks are voting o... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, ImmigrantL:

"...the blacks are voting on skin color..."

Pretty clear to me that's either ignorant or racist. Tell me what evidence you have to make that assumption.
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The first black pres Bill Clinton made this statement himself. And other liberals made the statement themselves. Toni Morrison implied that Bill Clinton is the first black pres, and that 's why blacks were so excited about him.

If you are saying that the liberal dems are ignorant and racist, then I agree with you. It rots from the top all these years.

And so you conclude that bl... (Below threshold)
JFO:

And so you conclude that black voters have no views or don't care or are too stupid to look at the man, the issues, his positions but simply vote blindly by color.

I reiterate my original point that you are either ignorant or a racist.

Ok JFO. Why don't you take ... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

Ok JFO. Why don't you take a few minutes and clearly and distinctly spell out the differences between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Issue by issue.

We can then clearly see why a voter would choose one over the other.

(cue Jeopardy theme music)

And so you conclude that bl... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, ImmigrantL:

And so you conclude that black voters have no views or don't care or are too stupid to look at the man, the issues, his positions but simply vote blindly by color.
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Go pick that up with the dem party and Clinton people yourself. Look at yourself in the mirror. People from your sides made that statement. I thought the liberal dems claimed to understand the black community. Are you saying that these liberals are lying about that?

Why don't you start by defe... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Why don't you start by defending your original statement that Obama has yet to discuss the issues. Give us specific facts to support that other ignorant comment of yours.

I reiterate my original poi... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, ImmigrantL:

I reiterate my original point that you are either ignorant or a racist.
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Yes, you are ignorant and racist for supporting Clinton and dem party all thease years.

LAII always hesita... (Below threshold)
JFO:

LAI

I always hesitate getting into a discussion with you since you are so crazy.

But I will this time- I have written several times on this site that I would vote for McCain over Hillary. So crawl back into your dark cave, eat some of your stored rations, clean your gun and take a deep breath.

Give us specific facts <br ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, ImmigrantL:

Give us specific facts
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Yup Obama 's records:

* Denying medical care for surviving aborted babies
* Took a walk on the vote condemning the disgraceful MoveOn for smearing Gen Patreaus. In return, he got an overwhelming endorsement from this disgraceful group
* One of only 29 dems voted against the wiretapping law to protect the country from terrorist attacks
* Promise to withdraw from Iraq while shamelessly trying to claim credit for the surge 's success.

That 's just on top of my head. He is a liberal extremist for the liberal agenda of "killing babies, not terrorists" big gov.

JFO, Are you voting... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, ImmigrantL:

JFO,
Are you voting for McCain over Obama? That 's my question. Did you vote for Clinton?

JFO-"Invade Pakist... (Below threshold)
Pretzel_Logic:

JFO-

"Invade Pakistan". There are terrorists in Great Briton ... and Turkey, are we invading those places too.

"I'll never use nuclear weapons." (pssst hey barack, they are there as a deterrent. none of us want them used, get a clue)

These are just of a few Howard`Dean moments I can think of. I'm just typing this for fun as you have steered so far off course in the discussion your GPS isnt picking up a signal.

Obama or Hillary Clinton wi... (Below threshold)
Neil Bush:

Obama or Hillary Clinton will be POTUS in ~10 months' time and you fucking idiots will still be barfing out the same stupid talking points that nobody cares about now, and nobody will care about then.

Your primary candidates sucked, McCain sucks, and your ideas suck. You lose.
depp=true

Self-loathing Fake Bush,<br... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, ImmigrantL:

Self-loathing Fake Bush,
Still cannot deal with facts and logic. Did you ask for a refund from you alma mater?

Since fake Neil Bush like t... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

Since fake Neil Bush like to have some new fact. Here is another one from a well known liberal, Richard Cohen. Maybe the uniting force in the dem party is the "audacity of ignorance" and their extremist liberal agenda.

Obama's Farrakhan Test
And yet Wright heaped praise on Farrakhan. According to Trumpet, he applauded his "depth of analysis when it comes to the racial ills of this nation." He praised "his integrity and honesty." He called him "an unforgettable force, a catalyst for change and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose." These are the words of a man who prayed with Obama just before the Illinois senator announced his run for the presidency. Will he pray with him just before his inaugural?

I don't for a moment think that Obama shares Wright's views on Farrakhan. But the rap on Obama is that he is a fog of a man. We know little about him, and, for all my admiration of him, I wonder about his mettle. The New York Times recently reported on Obama's penchant while serving in the Illinois legislature for merely voting "present" when faced with some tough issues. Farrakhan, in a strictly political sense, may be a tough issue for him. This time, though, "present" will not do.




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