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Wizbang Primary II

Published: February 13, 2008 - 9:01 AM

In an earlier thread regarding me voting for my dog, Nehemiah suggested revisiting the primary again, this time matching President Bush against the remaining contenders. So, I am presenting the primary scenario again, this time with the following hypothetical tickets:

DEMOCRATS
[] Hillary Clinton, New York
[] Barack Obama, Illinois

REPUBLICANS
[] John McCain, Arizona
[] Mike Huckabee, Arkansas
[] Ron Paul, Texas
[] George W. Bush, Texas

Also, treat this primary as "closed", and vote only in your identified party. No crossovers, please.

This might be interesting.

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GWB from those choices.... (Below threshold)

1. Posted by ExSubNuke | February 13, 2008 9:07 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

ExSubNuke:

GWB from those choices.

1. Posted by ExSubNuke | February 13, 2008 9:07 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 09:07

Holding nose, John McCain</... (Below threshold)

2. Posted by BChoinski | February 13, 2008 9:18 AM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)

BChoinski:

Holding nose, John McCain

2. Posted by BChoinski | February 13, 2008 9:18 AM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 09:18

[R] - None of the above... (Below threshold)

3. Posted by Headzero | February 13, 2008 9:22 AM | Score: -2 (4 votes cast)

Headzero:

[R] - None of the above

Come the actual election it depends on who McCain picks as a running mate to see if I cross over to the liberal side (as he probably won't make it all the way through his first term).

3. Posted by Headzero | February 13, 2008 9:22 AM | Score: -2 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 09:22

Based on my ten minutes as ... (Below threshold)

4. Posted by Jay Tea | February 13, 2008 9:31 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

Jay Tea:

Based on my ten minutes as a registered Republican last month (for the New Hampshire primary), I'm gonna have to say Bush as well. But that's strictly by the process of elimination, not a matter of preference.

4. Posted by Jay Tea | February 13, 2008 9:31 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 09:31

Dubya... (Below threshold)

5. Posted by Pretzel_Logic | February 13, 2008 9:33 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

Pretzel_Logic:

Dubya

5. Posted by Pretzel_Logic | February 13, 2008 9:33 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 09:33

GWB, easily. Like him or no... (Below threshold)

6. Posted by BPG | February 13, 2008 9:44 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

BPG:

GWB, easily. Like him or not, he has managed to keep the ship of state afloat. (No thanks to Congress...grrrr) Besides, it'll take 20 years to even begin to determine if GWB was right on or not. Nobody thought Reagan was doing the right thing vis-a-vis the Soviets back in the 80s, but look how that turned out.

6. Posted by BPG | February 13, 2008 9:44 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 09:44

George W Bush... (Below threshold)

7. Posted by P. Bunyan | February 13, 2008 9:46 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

P. Bunyan:

George W Bush

7. Posted by P. Bunyan | February 13, 2008 9:46 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 09:46

[R] - Bush. I haven't alwa... (Below threshold)

8. Posted by Daniel | February 13, 2008 10:05 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Daniel:

[R] - Bush. I haven't always been happy with him, but he's the best choice up there by far.

8. Posted by Daniel | February 13, 2008 10:05 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:05

George W. Bush owns a ranch... (Below threshold)

9. Posted by Where's Ronald Reagan? | February 13, 2008 10:06 AM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)

Where's Ronald Reagan?:

George W. Bush owns a ranch in Texas.

He is a real cowboy.

Cowboys are hardworkin' good guys.

I will vote for George W. Bush.

9. Posted by Where's Ronald Reagan? | February 13, 2008 10:06 AM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:06

GWB, in spite of his flaws ... (Below threshold)

10. Posted by civildisobedience | February 13, 2008 10:11 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

civildisobedience

GWB, in spite of his flaws because he is a known CIC vs. the unknown, and is more conservative/stable than McCain. Also, his admin is finally enforcing some immigration laws.

10. Posted by civildisobedience | February 13, 2008 10:11 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:11

GWB... (Below threshold)

11. Posted by HughS | February 13, 2008 10:16 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

HughS:

GWB

11. Posted by HughS | February 13, 2008 10:16 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:16

W... (Below threshold)

12. Posted by Usful Ijit | February 13, 2008 10:18 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Usful Ijit:

12. Posted by Usful Ijit | February 13, 2008 10:18 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:18

Fot JT, I'll write in Fred.... (Below threshold)

13. Posted by epador | February 13, 2008 10:20 AM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)

epador:

Fot JT, I'll write in Fred.

13. Posted by epador | February 13, 2008 10:20 AM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:20

Clinton... (Below threshold)

14. Posted by patrick | February 13, 2008 10:22 AM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)

patrick:

Clinton

14. Posted by patrick | February 13, 2008 10:22 AM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:22

GW... (Below threshold)

15. Posted by Son Of The Godfather | February 13, 2008 10:23 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Son Of The Godfather:

15. Posted by Son Of The Godfather | February 13, 2008 10:23 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:23

Patrick, were you the wimp ... (Below threshold)

16. Posted by Scrapiron | February 13, 2008 10:37 AM | Score: -1 (5 votes cast)

Scrapiron:

Patrick, were you the wimp that the other wimps picked on?

16. Posted by Scrapiron | February 13, 2008 10:37 AM | Score: -1 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:37

Bush... (Below threshold)

17. Posted by John F Not Kerry | February 13, 2008 10:37 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

John F Not Kerry:

Bush

17. Posted by John F Not Kerry | February 13, 2008 10:37 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:37

epador, Fred endorsed McCai... (Below threshold)

18. Posted by DJ Drummond | February 13, 2008 10:41 AM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)

DJ Drummond:

epador, Fred endorsed McCain. So that makes you a McCainiac?

18. Posted by DJ Drummond | February 13, 2008 10:41 AM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:41

Dubya. With those ch... (Below threshold)

19. Posted by Les Nessman | February 13, 2008 10:44 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Les Nessman:

Dubya.
With those choices, it's not even close.

19. Posted by Les Nessman | February 13, 2008 10:44 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:44

Hold nose, retch into my mo... (Below threshold)

20. Posted by Brian The Adequate | February 13, 2008 10:49 AM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)

Brian The Adequate:

Hold nose, retch into my mouth and under protest wanting better choices I vote for McCain.

With Stevens and Ginsburg halfway dead, gotta vote for the most electable person with the POSSIBILITY they will appoint Justices with at least partial understanding of the constitution.

20. Posted by Brian The Adequate | February 13, 2008 10:49 AM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:49

I'd vote for GWB. Interesti... (Below threshold)

21. Posted by Sque | February 13, 2008 10:50 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Sque:

I'd vote for GWB. Interesting thought process...

21. Posted by Sque | February 13, 2008 10:50 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:50

Well, if he could run again... (Below threshold)

22. Posted by BChoinski | February 13, 2008 10:55 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

BChoinski:

Well, if he could run again, I too would vote for GWB, but I thought this was supposed to be based on real possibility. :}

22. Posted by BChoinski | February 13, 2008 10:55 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 10:55

Judging by the answers here... (Below threshold)

23. Posted by Oyster | February 13, 2008 11:12 AM | Score: 4 (8 votes cast)

Oyster:

Judging by the answers here, I predict Wizbangblue will be putting up a post ridiculing the majority choice here.

Lemme see. It'll go something like this:

"the lock-stepping Bush worshipers" - "the reality challenged Bushies" or maybe even "xenophobic right-wing whack-jobs".

Might as well give them the fodder they love so much and go with Bush myself. As civildisobedience said; he's a known.

23. Posted by Oyster | February 13, 2008 11:12 AM | Score: 4 (8 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 11:12

Wow - as much as I'd like a... (Below threshold)

24. Posted by Clancy | February 13, 2008 11:47 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Clancy:

Wow - as much as I'd like another choice, I would hold my nose and vote for Dubya. Just to see the lefty moonbats explode...

24. Posted by Clancy | February 13, 2008 11:47 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 11:47

I am grateful to GW for kee... (Below threshold)

25. Posted by WildWillie | February 13, 2008 11:53 AM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)

WildWillie:

I am grateful to GW for keeping me and my family safe. I cannot even imagine how Obama or Hillary would have reacted to 9/11 and the GWOT. ww

25. Posted by WildWillie | February 13, 2008 11:53 AM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 11:53

GW Bush - no doubt at all!<... (Below threshold)

26. Posted by SShiell | February 13, 2008 11:56 AM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)

SShiell:

GW Bush - no doubt at all!

26. Posted by SShiell | February 13, 2008 11:56 AM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 11:56

WHe is predictable... (Below threshold)

27. Posted by Imhotep | February 13, 2008 12:01 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)

Imhotep:

He is predictable, and the rest of the field is not.

27. Posted by Imhotep | February 13, 2008 12:01 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 12:01

Obama. Enough with this pan... (Below threshold)

28. Posted by matthew | February 13, 2008 12:04 PM | Score: -6 (8 votes cast)

matthew:

Obama. Enough with this pandering to the rich white Christian special interest group.

28. Posted by matthew | February 13, 2008 12:04 PM | Score: -6 (8 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 12:04

Obama. No quicker way to d... (Below threshold)

29. Posted by Mac Lorry | February 13, 2008 12:08 PM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)

Mac Lorry:

Obama. No quicker way to destroy the democrats and get them swept from office.

29. Posted by Mac Lorry | February 13, 2008 12:08 PM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 12:08

'W' easy choiceDon... (Below threshold)

30. Posted by jbwbubba | February 13, 2008 12:11 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)

jbwbubba:

'W' easy choice

Don't agree with many of things Bush did.

But great on Taxes, judges, national defense, etc.

now with a dem congess he's getting better on spending.

as for immigration, drug benefits, etc. he said he was going to do those things while running for office.

30. Posted by jbwbubba | February 13, 2008 12:11 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 12:11

They are all for open borde... (Below threshold)

31. Posted by 914 | February 13, 2008 12:14 PM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)

914:

They are all for open borders and amnesty 7 years after 9-11,accept maybe Paul. One is even delivering 1.6 billion dollars to the corrupt government of Mexico.

Sad to say none of the above. If McCain lives long enough to be elected, I will have to write in someone.

31. Posted by 914 | February 13, 2008 12:14 PM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 12:14

W.... (Below threshold)

32. Posted by Peter F. | February 13, 2008 12:45 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)

Peter F.:

32. Posted by Peter F. | February 13, 2008 12:45 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 12:45

McCain... I'd rather have 2... (Below threshold)

33. Posted by Jayemay | February 13, 2008 12:51 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Jayemay:

McCain... I'd rather have 2 more Justice Kennedys than 2 more Justice Ginsburgs.

33. Posted by Jayemay | February 13, 2008 12:51 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 12:51

McCain's your only choice, ... (Below threshold)

34. Posted by McCainiac | February 13, 2008 12:58 PM | Score: -1 (5 votes cast)

McCainiac:

McCain's your only choice, you might as well put Reagan or Lincoln up there as any of the rest of your choices.

He's the best choice, anyways.

34. Posted by McCainiac | February 13, 2008 12:58 PM | Score: -1 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 12:58

;-) DJ: Can't trade votes u... (Below threshold)

35. Posted by epador | February 13, 2008 1:22 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)

epador:

;-) DJ: Can't trade votes unless u change the rules. I wrote in Fred, a wasted vote in tribute to JT. If I wanted to vote for JM I would have.

35. Posted by epador | February 13, 2008 1:22 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 13:22

I understand, epador. I'm ... (Below threshold)

36. Posted by DJ Drummond | February 13, 2008 1:40 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)

DJ Drummond:

I understand, epador. I'm curious, though - what do you think of Fred playing kissbutt to the Arch-Weasel?

Personally, I'm disappointed, I thought Fred had higher standards ...

36. Posted by DJ Drummond | February 13, 2008 1:40 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 13:40

John McCain with what's up ... (Below threshold)

37. Posted by LaMedusa | February 13, 2008 2:54 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)

LaMedusa:

John McCain with what's up there.

Write-ins would be Fred and Rudy.

37. Posted by LaMedusa | February 13, 2008 2:54 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 14:54

(R)Easy answer- Du... (Below threshold)

38. Posted by Conservachef | February 13, 2008 2:54 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Conservachef:

(R)

Easy answer- Dubya.

38. Posted by Conservachef | February 13, 2008 2:54 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 14:54

Easy: Bush... (Below threshold)

39. Posted by My Boaz's Ruth | February 13, 2008 3:08 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

My Boaz's Ruth:

Easy: Bush

39. Posted by My Boaz's Ruth | February 13, 2008 3:08 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 15:08

I wonder what state My Boaz... (Below threshold)

40. Posted by WildWillie | February 13, 2008 3:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

WildWillie:

I wonder what state My Boaz's Ruth lives in? ww

40. Posted by WildWillie | February 13, 2008 3:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 15:25

GWB... (Below threshold)

41. Posted by Sara | February 13, 2008 3:56 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)

Sara:

GWB

41. Posted by Sara | February 13, 2008 3:56 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 15:56

President George W Bush -- ... (Below threshold)

42. Posted by DrDeb | February 13, 2008 4:05 PM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)

DrDeb:

President George W Bush -- the most courageous, visionary president in my lifetime!

42. Posted by DrDeb | February 13, 2008 4:05 PM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 16:05

McCain - nope. Only the la... (Below threshold)

43. Posted by _Mike_ | February 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

_Mike_:

McCain - nope. Only the label says republican. The (R) after his name should have very stubby legs and larger enclosed area.
Paul - nope. Sorry, foreign policy is too important at this juncture.
Huckabee - nope. Not really certain about him. His support of the FairTax is interesting and he's the only option of the 3 listed so far that have executive experience.

GWB - only option left so yeah. Even if not a fiscal conservative, he's the least worst of the 4.

43. Posted by _Mike_ | February 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 16:07

McCain- He may be an SOB, b... (Below threshold)

44. Posted by Proof | February 13, 2008 5:07 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)

Proof:

McCain- He may be an SOB, but he's our SOB!

44. Posted by Proof | February 13, 2008 5:07 PM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 17:07

(Despite what your poll say... (Below threshold)

45. Posted by Proof | February 13, 2008 5:08 PM | Score: -3 (5 votes cast)

Proof:

(Despite what your poll says, W ain't running!)

45. Posted by Proof | February 13, 2008 5:08 PM | Score: -3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 17:08

You're kinda weak on hypoth... (Below threshold)

46. Posted by DJ Drummond | February 13, 2008 5:35 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)

DJ Drummond:

You're kinda weak on hypothetical concepts, huh 'Proof'?

And McCain is not "our" guy, according to most Conservatives. And Judges Pickering, Owens, et al.

46. Posted by DJ Drummond | February 13, 2008 5:35 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 17:35

Under those choices, and I ... (Below threshold)

47. Posted by Jim | February 13, 2008 5:49 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Jim:

Under those choices, and I can't believe I would ever say this, Bush gets the vote. And the problem here is that even with his very low approval, he is still better than the rest. Here in lays the dilemma for both republicans and conservatives. We want more substance and convictions. The Dems don't have any problems like that.

47. Posted by Jim | February 13, 2008 5:49 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 17:49

George Bush... (Below threshold)

48. Posted by Don Singleton | February 13, 2008 5:57 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)

Don Singleton

George Bush

48. Posted by Don Singleton | February 13, 2008 5:57 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 17:57

DJ,Thanks for maki... (Below threshold)

49. Posted by nehemiah | February 13, 2008 6:11 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

nehemiah:

DJ,

Thanks for making this a thread. You know who I support. President George W. Bush, no contest.

49. Posted by nehemiah | February 13, 2008 6:11 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 18:11

[R] - GWB... (Below threshold)

50. Posted by Chris | February 13, 2008 6:56 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)

Chris:

[R] - GWB

50. Posted by Chris | February 13, 2008 6:56 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 18:56

In this particular Primary,... (Below threshold)

51. Posted by Melissa | February 13, 2008 7:13 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)

Melissa:

In this particular Primary, GWB

51. Posted by Melissa | February 13, 2008 7:13 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 19:13

George W. Bush. All the way... (Below threshold)

52. Posted by Dave W | February 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Dave W:

George W. Bush. All the way. George W looks so far to the right in this group of candidates. He's actually the only person who isn't a total liberal in that list. Ron Paul is as isolationist as a lib, Huckabee was Mr. Amnesty and Tax raiser while governor and McCain is McCain.

52. Posted by Dave W | February 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 20:25

Let's get Huckabee on the b... (Below threshold)

53. Posted by Alan Orfi | February 13, 2008 8:53 PM | Score: -4 (6 votes cast)

Alan Orfi:

Let's get Huckabee on the board with at least one vote.

53. Posted by Alan Orfi | February 13, 2008 8:53 PM | Score: -4 (6 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 20:53

As much as I'd prefer not t... (Below threshold)

54. Posted by Morrissimo | February 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)

Morrissimo:

As much as I'd prefer not to, W. He's a known quantity: when he's good he's pretty good, and when he's bad he's ...manageable.

DJ: When I heard that Fred had endorsed Juan McAmnesty, I was pretty deflated -- like you said: I thought Fred had higher standards. Then I found the actual text of his "endorsement":

This is no longer about past preferences or differences. It is about what is best for our country and for me that means that Republicans should close ranks behind John McCain.

Frankly, that sounds to me like, "better we vote for our SOB then let some collectivist take the helm." More like a party-rallying call than a "hot damn, that's my man."

54. Posted by Morrissimo | February 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 21:22

GWB - #43We will m... (Below threshold)

55. Posted by dolly | February 13, 2008 9:50 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)

dolly:

GWB - #43

We will miss him!

55. Posted by dolly | February 13, 2008 9:50 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 21:50

I am voting for the ... (Below threshold)

56. Posted by Onyx | February 13, 2008 9:51 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)

Onyx:

I am voting for the guy they're running against: President George Walker Bush!

56. Posted by Onyx | February 13, 2008 9:51 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 21:51

W... (Below threshold)

57. Posted by La Mano | February 13, 2008 11:11 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

La Mano:

57. Posted by La Mano | February 13, 2008 11:11 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 23:11

Dubya... (Below threshold)

58. Posted by barker | February 13, 2008 11:24 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

barker:

Dubya

58. Posted by barker | February 13, 2008 11:24 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)

Posted on February 13, 2008 23:24

W always!... (Below threshold)

59. Posted by diane | February 14, 2008 12:18 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

diane:

W always!

59. Posted by diane | February 14, 2008 12:18 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)

Posted on February 14, 2008 00:18

For those who have chosen M... (Below threshold)

60. Posted by _Mike_ | February 14, 2008 6:50 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

_Mike_:

For those who have chosen McCain, are you aware of the following ?

From a piece written in 2001,

"While Timothy Noah was interviewing the senator [McCain] about another topic in 1987, the conversation turned to a piece that Noah had written a year earlier for The Washington Monthly calling for a draft: "McCain said very straightforwardly that he believed in compulsory national service," Noah recalls.

goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-1464920/Suddenly-serviceable-is-this-the.html

60. Posted by _Mike_ | February 14, 2008 6:50 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on February 14, 2008 06:50

DJ,Again, thank yo... (Below threshold)

61. Posted by nehemiah | February 14, 2008 12:52 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)

nehemiah:

DJ,

Again, thank you for making this a thread. Since the last vote was now about six hours ago and this thread is moving down due to chronological reasons, I'd like to make a comment.

The apparent landslide above shows maybe why Presidents are judged differently 20 years afterward. I think it is at least partially because reality sets in. If we are comparing President Bush to some ideal conservative, maybe his approval would be at 25%, but what happens is that when time passes, reality sets in. And the current reality is John McCain -- and in those circumstances we realize that we didn't know just how good we had it. But is McCain an unusually bad reality that doesn't normally happen? I don't think so. The best way to compare is to compare to the reality of the past -- If President George W. Bush could run hypothetically not only in 2008 (which he overwhelmingly won), but in all other presidential election years, how would he do? I think he would do exceptionally well. He would lose in 1980 and 1984 to Reagan (and correctly), but he may win most other election years (I am certainly interested in your opinion on this). Would he win in 1960 against Nixon and Kennedy? Would he win against FDR?

Reality (not some fantasy ideal) will show in 20 years that we had it awfully good with President Bush.

61. Posted by nehemiah | February 14, 2008 12:52 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)

Posted on February 14, 2008 12:52

Sorry to post again, but I ... (Below threshold)

62. Posted by nehemiah | February 14, 2008 1:13 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)

nehemiah:

Sorry to post again, but I feel (as you do) strongly about this topic.

In other words, what showed the greatness of Reagan was not only what eventually happened with with Soviets, but what happened with the U.S. -- and what happened to the U.S. was George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. I dare say that the most important thing that led us to appreciate greatness of Reagan was the ineptness of George H.W. Bush. And what led us to see the easy grace and class of Reagan so clearly was the dime-a-dozen cheapness that is Bill Clinton.

62. Posted by nehemiah | February 14, 2008 1:13 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)

Posted on February 14, 2008 13:13

You're kinda weak on hyp... (Below threshold)

63. Posted by Proof | February 14, 2008 1:14 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)

Proof:

You're kinda weak on hypothetical concepts, huh 'Proof'?
And you are a bit humor impaired.
The line was a take off on HST's "He's our SOB" line.
As to the "hypothetical" there are six names, five of whom are actually running. (Hmmm! Not much hypothetical there! )

63. Posted by Proof | February 14, 2008 1:14 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)

Posted on February 14, 2008 13:14

'Proof', you would miss the... (Below threshold)

64. Posted by DJ Drummond | February 14, 2008 1:47 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)

DJ Drummond:

'Proof', you would miss the point in a needle factory!

64. Posted by DJ Drummond | February 14, 2008 1:47 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)

Posted on February 14, 2008 13:47

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Airing Live On AM1100: The Say Anything Show [Say Anything]

When Is Spending Really A Tax Cut? [Say Anything]

International Planned Parenthood Wants Mandatory Sex Ed Taught to 10 Year-Olds (Video) [Gateway Pundit]

Great news: Captain America ready to take on evil scourge of, er, tea partiers [Hot Air]

Obama Lectures On Bipartisanship [Say Anything]

Tech Note: Retweet Code Revamp [Little Green Footballs]

Press Corpse [The Jawa Report]

Criticizing The President Only Strengthens Our Enemies [RedState]

Obama Calls For End To Petty Politics As His Chief Flak Mocks Sarah Palin [Say Anything]

Youtube: The REVOLUTION [The Jawa Report]

Is the GOP planning to attend Obama’s health care “summit” or not? [Hot Air]

MARKDOWNS ON new Blu-Ray releases…. [Instapundit]

CHANGE: From“staying the course”to“staying on course.”See, that’s totally different. . .….. [Instapundit]

Why‘permanent majorities’are a myth, Reason #517B. [RedState]

Bloomberg News Calls Jack Murtha'Supporter of Troops', Doesn't Mention Haditha [NewsBusters.org]

PEJMAN YOUSEFZADEH has some questions regarding the Andrew Sullivan / Leon Wieseltier spat.Meanw… [Instapundit]

AN ETHICAL PLEDGE FOR NEUROSCIENTISTS?Don’t miss my PJTV show on this, either…. [Instapundit]

U.C. IRVINE’S Free Speech Problem…. [Instapundit]

Obama to GOP: Hey, let’s put aside “petty politics” [Hot Air]

JENNIFER RUBIN: Phony Centrists Pay The Price For ObamaCare…. [Instapundit]

Rosie O'Donnell, Broadway Star Spread 9/11 Truther Talk on Radio [NewsBusters.org]

Feminists Still Fretting Over Tebow’s Super Bowl Ad [NewsBusters.org]

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Wizbang Pop!: David Letterman's Shocker Super Bowl Ad

David Letterman sometimes knows how to amaze people. Yesterday, he hit a home run by inviting his rival Jay Leno and Oprah Winfrey and Conan O'Brien to appear in a...

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Huge news from the world of motorsports is that top Indy contender Danica Patrick will make the jump to Nascar racing with her debut at Daytona this Saturday. Patrick is...

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Wizbang Pop!: The Who Set To Rock The Super Bowl

The legendary UK rock act will rock the Super Bowl today, doing a 12 minute medley of their greatest hits. The band seems like a good fit for CBS, which...

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Wizbang Pop!: Business: How Government Spending Saved Studebaker During WWII

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