With John McCain pretty much guaranteed to be the Republican nominee (there's still time for him to have a Howard Dean-style meltdown or some health issues), it's time to recognize the reality of the situation and start looking at some of the fun and entertaining possibilities that can come from having him carrying the GOP banner.
First up, it makes his choice of running mate that much more important. In 2000, 1992, 1988, 1984, 1976, 1972, 1968, 1964, and 1960, former and sitting vice-presidents won their party's nomination. (OK, I'm cheating in 1992, 1976, 1972, and 1964, as they were sitting presidents at the time, but lemme get away with it.) McCain is old, and he has not had the healthiest life. He may simply not want to seek a second term should he be re-elected, leaving his vice-president as the heir presumptive. And even if McCain loses, the prominence given to his running mate will make him a major contender in 2012 even without the advantage of executive incumbency.
Second, last week there was a flurry of rumors that McCain would resign from the Senate at some point to devote himself fully to the campaign. That panned out for now, but there is a precedent: Bob Dole, another severely wounded veteran, gave up his Senate seat in 1996. On the flip side (so to speak), we saw John Kerry not even bother to phone in to his Senate job when he ran in 2004, and it left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. If McCain were to do so, that would immediately put a ton of pressure on the Democratic nominee (be it either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama) to follow suit.
Now, if McCain were to leave the Senate for a failed presidential bid, he'd most likely retire. But Obama is still relatively young, and Clinton has a need for power. Getting either of them out of the Senate would not only be a good thing, overall, but would put a serious crimp in their political ambitions. Neither have shown any interest in having to earn a living in the dreaded private sector; they'd rather hold office and make their money writing books, giving speeches, and the like. (Or, in the case of Hillary, allowing Bill to get into all sorts of questionable foreign deals to keep the bucks pouring into their joint accounts.)
Third, it would put the "chicken hawk" twits in their place. In a rerun of 1996, it would be a case of a genuine, certified war hero running against someone who has never served in the military. IN a refreshing change from 2004, we most likely would actually NOT focus on who did what almost 40 years ago, and instead on what they would do in the future.
I'm not overly thrilled with John McCain (I first backed Fred Thompson, then Mitt Romney), but he's a damned sight better than either Clinton or Obama. And he has the potential to make either (or both) of them very, very uncomfortable. That is certainly enough to make him worthy of consideration.



Comments (24)
Maybe Mr.McCain will point ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Gary-FL | February 16, 2008 12:17 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Maybe Mr.McCain will point out that his opposition wants to use the police power of government to seize you money and make you pay for someone else's health insurance. Or the fact they do not really want to lift the tax burden on Americans they only really promise to increase the burden on the public as a whole to pay for government programs... I hope he will point out in the debates that Mr.OBama will not wear the American flag on his lapel or salute the flag and what it stands for..
We can hope that McCain does not try to be "Civil" and "Take the High road" by not pointing out his opponents faults. Maybe we might hear something about how the Democratic party is wrong on all the issues.
We shall see.
1. Posted by Gary-FL | February 16, 2008 12:17 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 12:17
2. Posted by Mitchell | February 16, 2008 12:22 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Wow, Jay, I never thought you'd end up more conservative in your picks than me--I went 1. Guliani, 2. Fred, 3. McCain
2. Posted by Mitchell | February 16, 2008 12:22 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 12:22
3. Posted by Reality | February 16, 2008 12:29 PM | Score: -9 (13 votes cast)
As a Democrat, I'm all for that. Lemme see, the Democratic governors of NY and Illinois would appoint a Democrat to fill their role and the Democratic governor would fill McCain's empty suit with a...Democrat! Good way to extend the Democratic majority of the Senate when (not if) Keating 5 McCain loses badly. Thanks for the great idea!
3. Posted by Reality | February 16, 2008 12:29 PM |
Score: -9 (13 votes cast)
Posted on February 16, 2008 12:29
4. Posted by Jay Tea | February 16, 2008 12:45 PM | Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
Reality, allow me to introduce you to your namesake. Under Arizona law, the governor MUST appoint someone of the same party as the resigning Senator. So McCain would be replaced by a... Republican.
I also happen to think that pretty much ANYONE New York's governor would appoint would be an improvement over Hillary.
J.
4. Posted by Jay Tea | February 16, 2008 12:45 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 12:45
5. Posted by JFO | February 16, 2008 1:13 PM | Score: -8 (12 votes cast)
Interesting piece from the, ahem, alleged "independent."
5. Posted by JFO | February 16, 2008 1:13 PM |
Score: -8 (12 votes cast)
Posted on February 16, 2008 13:13
6. Posted by Jay Tea | February 16, 2008 2:05 PM | Score: 6 (10 votes cast)
JFO, I realize this might be a tough concept for you, but "independent of any party" does NOT mean "independent of any opinion." One need not be a member of the GOP to want neither Clinton or Obama to win the presidency -- just a bit of common sense.
J.
6. Posted by Jay Tea | February 16, 2008 2:05 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 14:05
7. Posted by JFO | February 16, 2008 2:25 PM | Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
Believe me Jay I wasn't referring to party affiliation, I was referring to your opinion. You are indistinguishable in any way shape or form from a right wing conservative on this blog. You may register as an "independent" but so what - especially in New Hampshire.
What I just don't get is why you just can't own up to what you are.
7. Posted by JFO | February 16, 2008 2:25 PM |
Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on February 16, 2008 14:25
8. Posted by Mike G in Corvallis | February 16, 2008 3:20 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
If McCain were to do so, that would immediately put a ton of pressure on the Democratic nominee (be it either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama) to follow suit.
Wishful thinking! If McCain were to retire, the mainstream media would endlessly, relentlessly, remorselessly opine that (1) "this proves the old man is ready to retire and doesn't have the stamina to be president for the next four years," and (2) "McCain is old and his career is over, so his resignation makes sense -- but Obama/Hillary has many years of Dedicated Public Service ahead, so it's disingenuous and evil of Republicans to suggest that he/she step down."
8. Posted by Mike G in Corvallis | February 16, 2008 3:20 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 15:20
9. Posted by 914 | February 16, 2008 4:05 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
JFO - " What I just dont get is why you just cant admit what you are."
He did? said He's independant like I am. cant You read?
9. Posted by 914 | February 16, 2008 4:05 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 16:05
10. Posted by Jay Tea | February 16, 2008 4:27 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
JFO, in what insane universe would I willingly let you define my political philosophy?
J.
10. Posted by Jay Tea | February 16, 2008 4:27 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 16:27
11. Posted by JFO | February 16, 2008 6:42 PM | Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
You certainly don't need me to do that. Your words speak for themselves. Still can't figure out why you're so dishonest about it.
Your posts, your positions, your word put you just slightly to the left of Attila the Hun - figuratively speaking that is.
11. Posted by JFO | February 16, 2008 6:42 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 18:42
12. Posted by Jay Tea | February 16, 2008 6:48 PM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
And just why is it so damned critical that 1) I abide by your definitions, and B) I accept your right to place me in whatever slot you give me, JFO? I take issues and people on a case-by-case basis, with no overarching principle or ideology.
I thought you were of the type that didn't care for labeling people and stereotyping and the like. Or is this just the little game you play when you realize you have absolutely nothing else to contribute?
J.
12. Posted by Jay Tea | February 16, 2008 6:48 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 18:48
13. Posted by LaMedusa | February 16, 2008 7:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"...but he's a damned sight better than either Clinton or Obama. And he has the potential to make either (or both) of them very, very uncomfortable."
Yes, yes he does. Now, if he would just dump the Gobular Warming crap, his discomfort to them would be similar to a very sharp thorn in their side. But, then again, it's a "perfect world" where money makes it go 'round.
13. Posted by LaMedusa | February 16, 2008 7:13 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 19:13
14. Posted by HughS | February 16, 2008 8:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Your posts, your positions, your word put you just slightly to the left of Attila the Hun - figuratively speaking that is.
JFO, do us a favor and define what "slightly to the left of Attila the Hun" means.
14. Posted by HughS | February 16, 2008 8:14 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 20:14
15. Posted by JFO | February 16, 2008 9:40 PM | Score: -1 (5 votes cast)
Jay
While I agree that you have the right to any opinion that you'd like to have, it's really difficult to give you any respect because of your regular statements that you are an "independent" thinker and an "independent" politically. You are an editor of this blog. That should hold you to a higher ethical standard it seems to me. I find you very disingenuous when you claim to be an "independent" but almost always you argue from a conservative right wing perspective. You do your fair share of mocking democrats and are very intolerant of those who argue from a liberal or democratic perspective.
While, I'm sure you don't give a ticks ass what i think I'm sharing it with you anyway. I just wish you'd own what you believe. You're a good writer - I enjoy your novelette as you post it but I think you are fundamentally politically dishonest.
15. Posted by JFO | February 16, 2008 9:40 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 21:40
16. Posted by JFO | February 16, 2008 9:41 PM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
HughS
Since you asked. It is somewhere between Barry Goldwater and Michael Savage. That work for you?
16. Posted by JFO | February 16, 2008 9:41 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 21:41
17. Posted by HughS | February 16, 2008 10:29 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
That work for you?
Uh, no, it doesn't JFO. You need to narrow the reference and not limit the comparison to modern day talk radio personalities.
King Attila's atrocities and cruelty were prolific and widespread. Where does this fgure in with Jay Tea's posts here?
17. Posted by HughS | February 16, 2008 10:29 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 22:29
18. Posted by epador | February 16, 2008 11:19 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Uh Oh. Junior F*ck Off pushed JT's buttons. Silly boy. You are better off ignored.
I wonder which conservative Right Wing Republican he's talking about. Pat Robertson. Naw, I don't think so. Oh, I know, that oxycodone-addicted TV personality. Naw... Wait a minute, NEWT! yeah, that's JT all right... ... no, hmmm.
Oh, I know, He's right there with Charleton Heston. That's it. Well, I guess JFO might be right, er left, er whatever.
18. Posted by epador | February 16, 2008 11:19 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on February 16, 2008 23:19
19. Posted by Ran | February 16, 2008 11:37 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
*Wondering why JT gives a Rats A$$ about what JFO thinks anyway!*..
19. Posted by Ran | February 16, 2008 11:37 PM |
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Posted on February 16, 2008 23:37
20. Posted by Ryan | February 17, 2008 2:23 AM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
I've been reading Wizbang for a couple years now, not really posting a whole lot, as far as some people here do. But one thing I've noticed, and I think I've commented on it before, is that Jay Tea has moved from the center to solidly right. Maybe he just really hates Clinton and Obama that much.
20. Posted by Ryan | February 17, 2008 2:23 AM |
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Posted on February 17, 2008 02:23
21. Posted by ke_future | February 17, 2008 4:20 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
it's an axiom that as one gets older, one becomes more conservative. personally, i think it is because experience teaches a person that leftist ideas are bogus.
who defines the center? what does it mean to be right? or left?
besides, with the stupid things that the GOP has been doing the last few years, would you want to associate yourself to it? now mind you, the democrats are worse in my opinion, because they are challenged by their members on the stupid shit they do, they are encouraged in it.
21. Posted by ke_future | February 17, 2008 4:20 AM |
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Posted on February 17, 2008 04:20
22. Posted by CTindy | February 17, 2008 10:02 AM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
new rasmussen ge state polls
PA
Obama 49
Mccain 39
OR
Obama 49
Mccain 40
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=61.0
22. Posted by CTindy | February 17, 2008 10:02 AM |
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Posted on February 17, 2008 10:02
23. Posted by Michael | February 17, 2008 10:06 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Reality - being ignorant roll that you are - the governor of AZ has to appoint a Republican. Sorry to pop your fantasy.
23. Posted by Michael | February 17, 2008 10:06 AM |
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Posted on February 17, 2008 10:06
24. Posted by wildwood15
| February 17, 2008 1:14 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
see, this is where we always get snookered. if mccain resigns, there is NO WAY hillary or obama will resign, nor will their constituents demand it. the "selfish party" always wants it all for themselves and nothing for the other party.
i'm sick of our guys always resigning for trumped up reasons and the other guys always getting away with whatever they want, under the guise of "well, at least we aren't hypocrites because we never set any standards for ourselves in the first place."
24. Posted by wildwood15
| February 17, 2008 1:14 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on February 17, 2008 13:14