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Hollywood pays tribute to the military the only way they know how

Well, last night was the Oscars. I didn't watch -- I don't find it particularly entertaining to watch already-smug actors, directors, producers, and the rest of the Hollywood establishment rub shoulders and celebrate their profound awesomeness, which is all the Oscars (and every other award show) really is about.

I did see today, however, that the Academy decided to pay tribute to our troops by letting some of our soldiers in Baghdad introduce the award for Best Documentary.

There was the good:

And the bad:

The winner, Taxi to the Dark Side by Alex Gibney and Eva Orner is about the military committing acts of torture around the world.

I wonder how it went when the Academy decided to let them introduce a category.
- "Hey guys, let's do something to pay tribute to the troops."
- "Yeah, that's a good idea. What category should they introduce?"
- "How about the one where the winner is a film about how sick and twisted our military is?"
- "The one where it shows the troops committing all kinds of torture?"
- "Yeah, that one."
- "Sweet, let's do it! It'll be perfect."
- "Yeah, they're just killing babies and raping goats over in Baghdad anyways."
- "They're probably too stupid to get it."

I guess we shouldn't really be too surprised, though. This if, after all, the only way Hollywood knows how to show support to our troops. They can't do so without finding some way to sully that tribute. But, well, high five for trying!

Well... maybe a low five.

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Cassy, did you even bother ... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Cassy, did you even bother to watch the first clip? One was for best short documentary and the other was for the best feature documentary.

Do you ever think for yourself?

The juxtaposition was very ... (Below threshold)
Eric Forhan:

The juxtaposition was very telling. Tom Hanks came out to introduce the troops. The troops then emceed the best short. Hanks came back to to do the best anti-war doc...err.. Best Documentary.

I'm not military, but it seemed like more of a slap than a praising to the soldiers.

December 2002, an Afghan n... (Below threshold)
tty:

December 2002, an Afghan named Dilawar had scraped together enough money to buy a taxi. He was fingered by a paid informant as a terrorist connected with a rocket attack. Taken to the American prison at Bagram, Afghanistan, he was tortured so violently that he died after five days. An autopsy showed that his legs were so badly mauled, they would have had to be amputated, had he lived. Later, the informant who collected U.S. money for fingering him was proven to be the terrorist actually responsible for the crime the innocent Dilawar was charged with.


This is the premise of taxi to the darkside. a sane person would say that is terrible, how can we as a great nation insure we don't do that again. Cassy however, blames the liberal hollywood elite for shining light on the subject.

Cassy when I see Republicans like you I think it is time to not only question your patriotism but your humanity. You should be ashamed of this post, but we both know you don't have enough decency for that.

I believe the category the ... (Below threshold)
Jo:

I believe the category the military announced as the winner was the one with the two women who apparently made some sort of gay people should be able to get married film. Which was also ironic. I bet it was planned.

Barney, for someone who com... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Barney, for someone who comes here straight from DU and Media Matters, it is hilarious for you to chide others on thinking for themselves. lol.

I really like that old song... (Below threshold)
twolaneflash:

I really like that old song:

"Hooray for Hollywood,
That screwy, ballyhooey Hollywood!...

Hooray for Hollywood,
That phony, super Coney, Hollywood!..."

The song was written by Johnny Mercer of Savannah, GA as a satire of the Hollywood dream that lured so many young Americans to California.

I doubt that many American warriors are overly concerned with the feelings of Hollywood toward them. There's not an actor in Hollywood that would last 30 seconds in hand-to-hand combat with my son, and less than 2 seconds with any weapon. Those millions in taxes the movie industry pays buy bullets just like mine, and FastLaneFlash does enjoy blowing things up, especially when he knows the liberal wankers are paying for it. I would love to watch the ego-shrinkage should these America-hating actors realize how little respect, regard, and value, as a real human, the average American has for them. The worm will turn.

ttyA sane person a... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

tty

A sane person also wouldn't take a relatively isolated incident then blow it up with cherry-picked pieces of Congressional testimony while not offering opposing views or seeking interviews to gain explanation (gee, I wonder who else is famous for doing that?) and falsely attempt to pass off the incident as being a common and acceptable practice.

Peter F.Have you b... (Below threshold)
tty:

Peter F.

Have you bothered to watch this movie? I'm not sure you have because you are making accusations about the movie that indicate you have not seen it. As for the other side the haunted solders who were unfortunate enough to be involved in the incident were interviewed, all deeply regret what happened.

Also, the movie goes far beyond the "isolated incident" you mention and documents many examples of this policy have been condoned. I'd encourage you to watch the film. At the very very least you can hear all the arguments and cases presented and look for the counter arguments. More than one example was given though. It is deeply disturbing and un-American what happened. I'd hope you have enough values to recognize that.

If you have, at the very least you can say that it is awful an innocent man was tortured to death.


Also the movie goes far beyond the "isolated incident" you mention and documents many examples of this policy have been condoned. It is deepl disturbing and unamerican. I'd hope you have enough values to recognize that.

If you are at the very least you would say that it is awful an innocent man was tortured to death.

I was hoping Taxi to the Da... (Below threshold)
Herman:

I was hoping Taxi to the Dark Side would win and it did. It's not all the soldiers' fault for the torture they inflicted, though they certainly share the blame. Part of the blame goes all the way to the top, for not displaying, not demanding, firm commitment to respect for human life.

Incidentally, the television show, Frontline, had a special entitled "The Dark Side." http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/
It was mostly about the immoral policies if Dick Cheney, who publicly stated: "We also have to work, though, sort of the dark side, if you will." And work Dick and company did: The Washington Post reports "Over the past year, Vice President Cheney has waged an intense and largely unpublicized campaign to stop Congress, the Pentagon and the State Department from imposing more restrictive rules on the handling of terrorist suspects, according to defense, state, intelligence and congressional officials. . . ."

And now taxi driver, Dilawar, is dead, after 5 days of being brutally tortured by agents of the Pentagon, leaving behind a poor young daughter. His attackers? I think one of them got two-months incarceration, presumably because the Bushies were mildly upset the press found out. Of course, Dilawar was far from being the only one tortured. THE SHAME AND DISHONOR YOU HAVE BROUGHT UPON THE NATION, CONSERVATIVES, CANNOT END UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN EVICTED FROM THE PRESIDENCY.

Herman, If you wan... (Below threshold)
newton:

Herman,

If you want to see Conservatives and Republicans facing firing squads and "reeducation camps", just say it!

Spare us the speech.

Have you bothered to wat... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Have you bothered to watch this movie? I'm not sure you have because you are making accusations about the movie that indicate you have not seen it.

Bullshit. I watched it. Twice.

Also, the movie goes far beyond the "isolated incident" you mention and documents many examples of this policy have been condoned.

Name the other incident, one in which the victim was killed as a result of torture, and where that policy was condoned that's cited in the movie.

At the very very least you can hear all the arguments and cases presented and look for the counter arguments.

"Look for counter arguments"? What kind of nonsense is that? No, I wanted to see the counter arguments to get a well-rounded POV. But that didn't happen. Now that IS the filmamkers' prerogative, but it brings a certain disingenuous quality to the film to is undeniable.

...documents many examples of this policy have been condoned

Yes, it naturally documents Abu Ghraib, many times out of context. And alleged incidences at Gitmo (and, yes, they are alleged) are not verified and relegated to hearsay accounts.

It is deeply disturbing and un-American what happened.

Yes, it is. But what's equally un-American is attempting to portray the incidents like this and Abu Ghraib--and I'll say it again for you--as a common place practice (i.e. torturing to death). And that's just bullshit.

BTW, where is your condemnation of OBL and other terrorist assholes when they commit their atrocities and war crimes against innocents and the rest of humanity when the line retarded women with bomb belts and send them into a market only to detonate them from your afar. Where the fuck is your righteous indignation then.

Buried in the damn sand, no doubt. Right next to Herman's.

tty, in case you're interes... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

tty, in case you're interested, "Bowling for Columbine" and "Sicko" will provide you with all you need to know about firearms and healthcare in America.

Thought you might want to expand your knowledge a bit.

/sarc off

"I watched it. Twice." -- ... (Below threshold)
Herman:

"I watched it. Twice." -- Peter F.

You expect us to believe that you saw what you perceive to be an unfairly biased movie TWICE? What exactly did you hope to gain by watching it a second time? Just how long was this movie?

"But what's equally un-American is attempting to portray the incidents like this and Abu Ghraib--and I'll say it again for you--as a common place practice (i.e. torturing to death)" -- Peter F.

"At least 108 people have died in American custody in Iraq and Afghanistan, most of them violently, according to government data provided to The Associated Press. Roughly a quarter of those deaths have been investigated as possible abuse by U.S. personnel." -- AP, March 16, 2005

"BTW, where is your condemnation of OBL" -- Peter F.

Uh, it's 2008 now. You might try to look for that in one of tty's 2001 posts, that is, if you can find one.

Bullshit. I watc... (Below threshold)
tty:


Bullshit. I watched it. Twice.
You watched a movie you hated twice? Why do i think the main bullshit is coming out of your mouth?
Name the other incident, one in which the victim was killed as a result of torture, and where that policy was condoned that's cited in the movie.
I think Herman mentioned it with the 108 incidents, but besides that who gives a fuck if they dies or not We are torturing. the godamn nazi's did that. Why the fuck do people like you want to emulate the nazi's every chance you get?
Look for counter arguments"? What kind of nonsense is that? No, I wanted to see the counter arguments to get a well-rounded POV. But that didn't happen. Now that IS the filmamkers' prerogative, but it brings a certain disingenuous quality to the film to is undeniable.
I meant at the very least hear out the arguments and see then If you can, come up with a counter argument.
Yes, it naturally documents Abu Ghraib, many times out of context. And alleged incidences at Gitmo (and, yes, they are alleged) are not verified and relegated to hearsay accounts.
Yeah like the hearsay of the fucking who did the interrogations discussing the methods they used. You are lying. You did not see this movie.
Yes, it is. But what's equally un-American is attempting to portray the incidents like this and Abu Ghraib--and I'll say it again for you--as a common place practice (i.e. torturing to death). And that's just bullshit.
Well, at least you had the decency to admit it was horrendous what happened to this guy who was tortured to death (something I never thought I would see from americans in my lifetime) According to the troops on camera (former interrogators) this (meaning torture) was common. It happened clearly at Abu Ghrahb (If you had watched the movie you would have seen the images too awful for tv news) Although not to death it was pretty fucking disturbing and may have cost us the war in Iraq.
BTW, where is your condemnation of OBL and other terrorist assholes when they commit their atrocities and war crimes against innocents and the rest of humanity when the line retarded women with bomb belts and send them into a market only to detonate them from your afar. Where the fuck is your righteous indignation then.
This is the single stupidest argument I have ever heard in my life. If I had my way every troop in iraq would be in Afghanistan hunting this asshole. What I won't do is try to be like him? Why the fuck do you wish to emulate OBL? We fought the Germans just find without acting like them. Waterboarding , holding people with no trial British Citizens no less. Just the kind of stuff the SS would do. You want to get rid of every American principle I hold dear. I don't think you are worthy of calling you self an American and should stick you own damn head in the sand out of shame. I'm guessing you don't have much though. tell me the truth do you really give a shit if torture is happening or not?


Wow, you know, I just came ... (Below threshold)
Aaron:

Wow, you know, I just came to this blog, from here in Sydney (Australia), and though I have a great deal of respect for some of the reactionary elements of the American culture and people, it's really quite confronting to read things like this. You think the anti-Americanism sweeping The West (it's not just the Middle east anymore, guys) is an exageration or cliche, but alas, here you people are, so blinded by your need for meaning... sorry, I mean "patriotism"... you disregard what surely a great nation like the wonderful America would be about... you know... that torturing innocent people is wrong. Didn't you go and get Sadam, partly based on the premise that he was a torturer? An army must still have some autonomy, and must surely be partly directed by a sense of right that is in the hands of the people, and not the governments (which change, after all). But you can't get past some deep-seated code that to question the role given to these poor young people, is somehow abominable - even if it asks you to consider horrific acts of torture. Surely, to be concerned and have an AUTONOMOUS opinion that is led by something greater than this blind faith, that cares about what those men and women are over there dying for, that cares about the people who are dying at the hands of your young men and women, is, in fact, the greatest form of patriotism there is... one who cares about what the direction one's country takes. But no, no, anything looking like having a shot at your troops is evil... even if it's at the expense of those enduring war crimes that are perpetrated by your government. Nice. If there ever was proof that modern media dumbs societies down to the point where they are completely unable to see past propaganda and corruption to the point where they will believe anything that protects their sense of righteousness (partly what you buy into, that your government is very aware of) and anything that protects you from this great fear you have had installed in you (9/11 was truly awful, but many more have died by your hands, let us not forget - why is the death of an American any better or worse than the death of an Iraqi or Afghani?), then your country is the leading experiment in great societies gone horribly, horribly wrong.

May your God continue to bless you. But may he bless the rest of the world with, too, with an end to your dangerous ignorance.

"The more important aspect ... (Below threshold)
tty:

"The more important aspect of this story is whether this Dilwar character was a victim of "sucks to be you" or "unlucky lottery". I am pushing for "sucks to be you".

So an innocent man is taken for five days and tortured to death his legs would have been amputated and you say sucks to be you? you are a fucking scumbag. people like make me puke. If you want to live in a country that tortures so much why don't you take your ass someplace like China?

I also hope everyone else on this board is disgusted with you. Even if they think this is an isolated incident i would hope everyone would feel sorry for an innocent man who died an agonizing death for something he didn't do. And I hope I truly get to meet you one day scumbag.

"At least 108 people have d... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

"At least 108 people have died in American custody in Iraq and Afghanistan, most of them violently, according to government data provided to The Associated Press. Roughly a quarter of those deaths have been investigated as possible abuse by U.S. personnel." -- AP, March 16, 2005

And HOW MANY have actually been abused?

What interrogators have been charged and convicted of the abuse?

Pardon me if I question the authenticity of this documentary or the AP. (see "Sicko" and Superdome/Katrina reporting).

We realize suppoosition and innuendo are the watchwords for socialists but please provide us pragmatists with actual #s please.

I prefer "asshole" over "sc... (Below threshold)
moseby:

I prefer "asshole" over "scumbag"--I always will. Either way, I guess I ruffled yer feathers with my curiosity. The way I see it is this: the only way he's gettin "unlucky lottery" is if a helicopter had fallen out of the sky on him.

"If there ever was proof th... (Below threshold)

"If there ever was proof that modern media dumbs societies down to the point where they are completely unable to see past propaganda and corruption to the point where they will believe anything that protects their sense of righteousness..."

Wow,Aaron. Project much?




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