Just got back from Venus in my Cadillac Escalade (non hybrid version). Man was it warm there!!!

Not that revelations such as this will get in the way of the Global Warming movement. After all, they changed the name of the movement to "Climate Change" to get around pesky little facts like these!

And people think Mormans are the true proseletizers of the world? No. The most agressive of world religions in that of Climate Change.

From liberal to "progressive"....from global warming to "climate change".....

Keep putting lipstick on these liberal pigs, but nothing will stop us from seeing them for what they are. Liberal lying pieces of crap.

It's good to be proven right AGAIN. :)

He was a loser as a potential President. A loser as a movie fabricator. And now proven to be a loser as a climatologist..

Al Gore, go away and take all the dufuses that believe Your hogwashed hornswaggle with You.

OK, You got us.

Tell you what, we'll drop the whole global warming/enviro schtick if you just let us control every part of your life. That's what we want anyway.

Sincerely,
Al Gore and friends

This story was covered at Sadly, No!:

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8836.html

Another equally important development: My coffee is still hot! Stay tuned...

Is it even possible for these wackos to feel shame or embarrassment? It seems the more they are proved wrong the more they hunker down.

If you coffee is still hot that means the planet is not cooling. It is proof that the world is still heating up! We're all going to melt! That arctic vault will come in handy here shortly! whatever... Thanks for reporting more of the truth. All we now need is a mild to warm summer and these liberals can all go crawl back in their holes for another 20 years before trying this again.

We need to get control of the sun - and now! The best way to achieve this is to sell your SUV and send the money to Al Gore.
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"This story was covered at Sadly, No!:"

And commentary like yours, Adrian, is pretty much covered by jp2, barney, the dearly departed nogo, and many others. So what's next? Will you be writing to the editor of the NY Times telling him their stories are covered by the LA Times?

It ain't about global warming or cooling; it's about control freaks wanting to run your life, cuz living well is the best revenge, and your living well without their "leadership" galls them no end.

/obvious lead-in point

So ... they'll just switch to global cooling and offer the same answer - themselves as your betters to run things - as before.

/equally obvious conclusion

Oh, and they'll start to oppose solar power, a decentralized tehcnology that sets you free of their control. After all, we don't want Mother Gaia to freeze, do we?

/logical progression

Cassy, some questions for ya:

What kind of science degree do you have, or do you just rely on the Jawa report? What kind of degree in science does he have? Are you aware that global warming models predict global cooling cycles as well?

Thanks,
-jp2

Are you aware that global warming models predict global cooling cycles as well?

Yes, folks, you too can have it both ways with the amazing Liberal-o-matic! The only tool on the market that let's you talk out of both sides of your @$$ at once! Only 3 easy payments of $50 billion in carbon credits! Call now!

what's your degree in jp2?

Are you aware that global warming models predict global cooling cycles as well?

OMG! LMAO!

I bet you can get out of bed on both sides at
the same time too!
/caused by climate change, of course

This is from a letter I sent to my local paper last week:

Ask the "global warming" crowd and they predictably will say all evidence shows the planet is warming. This actually is true, but not in the way they claim. They actually take all the evidence and make it fit the theory - even evidence that clearly contradicts their position. For example they used to say "global warming" would melt all the glaciers and ice caps and drown coastal areas. Recently, however, some glaciers were found to be growing. How did the "global warming" crowd respond to that finding? They immediately started claiming that "global warming" would cause some glaciers to melt and some to grow. Okay, so then what about the polar ice caps? In 2007 the Antarctice ice cap grew to a record level and just this past week it was revealed that the recent extreme cold spell the Northern Hemisphere has been experiencing has caused the Arctic ice cap to grow larger and thicken. Is ice cap growth now a symptom of "global warming" as well?

Another example: hurricanes. After Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast during the very active 2005 season, the "global warming" crowd were quick to predict that more Katriinas would devastate the U.S. in the future. And what happened? For two years in a row, hurricane activity was diminished. The response? Suddenly "global warming' became the cause for the lack of Katrina-type hurricanes. You can't make this stuff up folks ... and it goes on and on like this. Whatever the evidence is, it is claimed to prove "global warming."

You don't need a degree in science to see through the "global warming" bullcrap.

So cooling events are caused by global warming. As are wet conditions, dry conditions, more hurricanes, fewer hurricanes, etc.

Question: are there any weather events that can not be blamed on global warming? After all, even the demise of the Loch Ness Monster has been blamed on AGW, so why not everything else?

A religion if ever I saw one, nothing can prove you wrong, if only you BELIEVE!

Thanks for a good link on Arctic Ice.

OMG! LMAO!
I bet you can get out of bed on both sides at
the same time too!

I bet you felt the same way about the "increased violence in Iraq means success, and decreased violence in Iraq also means success" meme.

Or maybe not.

Question: are there any weather events that can not be blamed on global warming?

Are there any events in Iraq that do not indicate success?

"Are there any events in Iraq that do not indicate success?"

Are there any comments you want to post in this thread that are actually on topic?

Global warming ended in 1998. Atmospheric carbon dioxide level continues to increase. Non-condensing greenhouse gasses have no significant influence on climate. Check the official government data yourself.

The average global temperature decreased more from January 2007 through January 2008 than the entire increase from 1901 to 2001.

The average global temperature anomaly from
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/annual.land_and_ocean.90S.90N.df_1901-2000mean.dat in 1901 was -.0974 and in 2001 was .4934 for a total temperature increase of .5908 centigrade degrees.

The average global temperature anomaly from
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2007/perspectives.html
for January 2007 was .85

and the average global temperature anomaly from
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/perspectives.html
for January 2008 was .18 for a total temperature drop of .67 centigrade degrees in 13 months.

LaMedusa,

Brian is just taking up where nogo left off...

Brian,

Not only do you not have a sense of humour,
you're way off target on this thread. Or do
you believe global warming
climate change causes all the violence in
Iraq.

Eureka! Scientists have discovered that the climate changes! In other news, Brian is still dumb.

Sheik Yur Bouty-

I see you're using the little dots like nogo. Must be subconscious. You kinda miss him, don't ya? (Not!) ; )

Dan, from your link:
"For 2007, the global land and ocean surface temperature was the fifth warmest on record. Separately, the global land surface temperature was warmest on record while the global ocean temperature was 9th warmest since records began in 1880. Some of the largest and most widespread warm anomalies occurred from eastern Europe to central Asia."

You flat earthers want to ignore long established trends, by pointing to one or two data points.

"You flat earthers want to ignore long established trends, by pointing to one or two data points."

We only follow where you lead! The only problem with that statement is that the only reason anybody with any common sense would follow you is morbid curiosity.

If man caused the warming, then how did man cause the cooling? And why can't man do it anytime we want, if it gets too cool, or if it gets too hot.

My guess is the AGW hoax has sprung a leak.

Brian - "Are there any events in Iraq that do not indicate success?"

Are there any events and or subjects blogged about you won't turn into smart smart-assed crack on Iraq?

To deny global warming OR cooling is foolish. To posit that a single species can have a material effect on a natural phenomonon is the height of arrogance.

Barney, however you choose to cherry pick the data, the overall trend is down since 1998-2001. And it is nice to note that the 1930s are now less warm, because the GISS "adjusted" them downward. They also prefer the temperature reconstructions that eliminate the medieval warming period (wine grapes in Engerland, Greenland being actually green), even though most temperature reconstructions show the MWP at least as warm as the present and possibly warmer. The recent warming has been one part real and three or four parts smoke and mirrrors.

what's your degree in jp2?

Actually, mine is in meteorology. The IPCC's case for human-caused global warming has pretty well fallen apart in the past year.

And the ENVIROMENTAL DEFENSE FUND is putting on a bunch of fruadulent TV ads and why isnt the FCC suing these fat green liars?

Libs are as correct on global warming as they have been on the war in Iraq. And most else, for that matter.

What else will they find to get scair't about next? Silly little people.

Does it surprise me that Barney cites to the GISS temperature record that was completely discredited last year?

Nope, it does not.

Since Richievercardo has a hard time understanding the written word or scientific concepts, here it is stick figure form.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png

Care to explain how the temperature trend radically reversed after nearly 1,000 years to spike well past the previous 1,000 year high point?

Do you know anything about slope?

Global warming is not man made...it's the fucking Heat Miser! Don't you people watch TV???

To deny global warming OR cooling is foolish.

That's actually true. I don't know why, but liberals seem to think that there's some sort of "normal" temperature the Earth is supposed to be and if we stray even a couple of degrees away from that, we'll all die.

Wow, they had that accurate a thermometer 1000 years ago? Amazing. My friggin weather man can't even get the weather right 48 hours from now...

Note, that the link points to a graph that says "RECONSTRUCTED Temperature." That is, no hard data, only at best conjecture.

Do you know anything about slope?

Rise vs Run, which this graph is not. And unrelevent to your claim in the first place.

Time for you to do a revision:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slope

By the way, my degree is in Engineering, so I know a little something about math. And plotting HARD data.

By the way, that graph comes from the Wikipedia link on the Little Ice Age:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age#Solar_activity

Which lists some possible causes for this temperature pattern.

1. Solar Activity
2. Volcanic Activity
3. Ocean Conveyor Shutdown

To me, Solar Activity seems to be a pretty strong candidate, but it is conjecture, just as much as the so-called "global warming/cooling/climate".

I thought maybe some of you guys might want to actually read the sitation the graph comes from and come to your own conjectures.

What kind of degree in science does he have? Are you aware that global warming models predict global cooling cycles as well?

About as well as Tarot Cards predict my future...

That's actually true. I don't know why, but liberals seem to think that there's some sort of "normal" temperature the Earth is supposed to be and if we stray even a couple of degrees away from that, we'll all die.

And there is the problem there. No one knows the definition of "normal" temperature. From same Ice Age link (which has a citation link):

"One of the difficulties in identifying the causes of the Little Ice Age is the lack of consensus on what constitutes "normal" climate. While some scholars regard the LIA as an unusual period caused by a combination of global and regional changes, other scientists see glaciation as the norm for Earth and the Medieval Warm Period (as well as the Holocene interglacial period) as the anomalies requiring explanation.[11]"

"Question: are there any weather events that can not be blamed on global warming?"

Of course there are. Do you think snowfall in Baghdad and the Northwest passage opening up are among them?

BTW a big congrats to all the people suggesting it is "having it both ways" to cite 2 climate predictions of the IPCC reports rather than just 1.
That really is exceptional.

Global warming is all about hot air.

In the entire history of earth, there has never been such thing as "Global Climate Stay-the-Same" -- it's always been changing and it always will.