Kathryn Jean Lopez at National Review informs us that William F. Buckley Jr. died last night in his study in Stamford, Connecticut.
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Kathryn Jean Lopez at National Review informs us that William F. Buckley Jr. died last night in his study in Stamford, Connecticut.
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Comments (22)
Gone to a better place, nev... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Gmac | February 27, 2008 12:49 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Gone to a better place, never to be forgotten by friends nor enemies.
1. Posted by Gmac | February 27, 2008 12:49 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 12:49
2. Posted by Jo | February 27, 2008 12:57 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
He was the greatest. We will miss you Mr. Buckley. R.I.P.
2. Posted by Jo | February 27, 2008 12:57 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 12:57
3. Posted by Maggie | February 27, 2008 1:01 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
He had a good passing, doing what he loved.
God bless him.
3. Posted by Maggie | February 27, 2008 1:01 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 13:01
4. Posted by Matt | February 27, 2008 1:48 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Vaya con Dios, Mr. Buckley. You made a difference.
4. Posted by Matt | February 27, 2008 1:48 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 13:48
5. Posted by Roy Smith | February 27, 2008 3:00 PM | Score: -10 (10 votes cast)
A brilliant man without a doubt, although his ideological insistence on social stratification leaves one feeling rather cold. He did indeed reinvent conservativism for the 20th century and opened up an interesting field of debate. He was a true dialectician and a thoughtful (though somewhat frightening) man whose politics were at least intellectually informed, if somewhat patrician. He was also one of the few men who was worth disagreeing with. Where are his ilk? What is his legacy? It seems sad that with the death of Buckley comes the death of rational conservatism. Ironic timing that he leaves us when what's left of American conservatism is dying on the vine of fundamentalist, reactionary, anti-humanist zealotry . With Buckley we could argue; with what's left of conservativism we can only cringe and do our best to deflect the bile storm of ignorance, greed, and hatred.
5. Posted by Roy Smith | February 27, 2008 3:00 PM |
Score: -10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 15:00
6. Posted by LouDawg | February 27, 2008 3:11 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Conservatism is dying on the vine because it does not hold true to its principles, not because of any "zealotry" or any other of the other epithets you seem to like to hurl at people of faith. The conservative movement was much more closely aligned with Christian fundamentalism 20 years ago than it is today, and it seemed to survive just fine. But when "conservatives" decide that we need to spend, spend, spend to grow the government and drift away from what made conservatism successful in the first place, we get what we have today.
6. Posted by LouDawg | February 27, 2008 3:11 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 15:11
7. Posted by nogo war | February 27, 2008 3:39 PM | Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
The man last year
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/04/can_republicans_survive_iraq.html
7. Posted by nogo war | February 27, 2008 3:39 PM |
Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 15:39
8. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | February 27, 2008 3:53 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
When it comes to showing class, nogo never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
8. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | February 27, 2008 3:53 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 15:53
9. Posted by McLovin | February 27, 2008 5:43 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
2 Samuel 3:38:
'Do you not know that a prince and a great man has fallen this day ?'
9. Posted by McLovin | February 27, 2008 5:43 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 17:43
10. Posted by Dave W | February 27, 2008 7:48 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Conservatism is what it has always been, the principles are not changing, have not changed, and conservatism is not dying.
What IS dying is Republicanism. The GOP is in the process of slitting it's own throat right now. GOP senate and house members have won elections running on conservative principles, but seem to have checked those principles at the door to D.C. Conservative principles live on despite the GOP.
Just because a group of individuals in our government preached conservatism in order to get elected, then abandoned the principles once elected, does not mean that conservatism has changed. It means that politicians are doing the best job they can in order to ensure their job security; grow the government. There is nothing conservative about that and there never will be.
10. Posted by Dave W | February 27, 2008 7:48 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 19:48
11. Posted by HughS | February 27, 2008 8:55 PM | Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
Bill Buckley was all there was for conservatives in the beginning. It started with God and Man at Yale.
There was no alternative medium in the intelligentsia, schools and media to established liberal dogma. In the beginning there was Buckley and his ideas. Conservatives have come a long way since then.
Bill Buckley brought Burke and the classic struggle between right and left (see Reflections on the Revolution in France ) back into the popular political dialogue. He championed the Austrian economists, and later, Friedman. With only a set of ideas and a fledgling magazine, he in large part brought about the repudiation of Keynesian economics and the supply side revolution that followed.
Buckley laid bare the lie of communism. He published the writings of one communism's former insiders, Whittaker Chambers, and showed the world what the left really was.
Buckley was what conservatives needed most at that particular time in history: an erudite intellectual with a razor sharp wit and mind who could and would eviscerate an opponent, and do it politely. John Kenneth Galbraith comes to mind.
Bill Buckley will be missed.
11. Posted by HughS | February 27, 2008 8:55 PM |
Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 20:55
12. Posted by epador | February 27, 2008 10:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Amen HughS.
12. Posted by epador | February 27, 2008 10:55 PM |
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Posted on February 27, 2008 22:55
13. Posted by mantis | February 27, 2008 11:40 PM | Score: -6 (10 votes cast)
So it goes.
The last prominent conservative with class is gone. What shall we call you guys now?
13. Posted by mantis | February 27, 2008 11:40 PM |
Score: -6 (10 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 23:40
14. Posted by ryan a | February 27, 2008 11:43 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
You know, I may not have always agreed with what I read of Buckley--but I certainly did not always disagree. He always made me think about my political understandings, and presented challenging arguments. The man had class, and he was incredibly thoughtful. He argued his case, and he did it well.
RIP Mr Buckley.
14. Posted by ryan a | February 27, 2008 11:43 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on February 27, 2008 23:43
15. Posted by James Cloninger | February 28, 2008 1:53 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
I thought nogo was banned... ?
15. Posted by James Cloninger | February 28, 2008 1:53 AM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on February 28, 2008 01:53
16. Posted by HughS | February 28, 2008 7:32 AM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
The last prominent conservative with class is gone. What shall we call you guys now?
We're still trying to locate the first prominent liberal with class.
16. Posted by HughS | February 28, 2008 7:32 AM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on February 28, 2008 07:32
17. Posted by _Mike_ | February 28, 2008 10:57 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
We're still trying to locate the first prominent liberal with class.
And as demonstrated within this thread, there are no candidates for that here.
17. Posted by _Mike_ | February 28, 2008 10:57 AM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on February 28, 2008 10:57
18. Posted by Tom Blogical | February 28, 2008 11:15 AM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Mr. Buckley will definitely be missed; someone needs to pick up the torch he's left behind. I couldn't agree more with HughS; he says it best.
I find it utterly ironic there are liberals here willing to use the death of a person with class as an opportunity to take a swipe at the class of the rest of the conservative community. This is projection at its finest, and I'm not surprised in the least.
18. Posted by Tom Blogical | February 28, 2008 11:15 AM |
Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on February 28, 2008 11:15
19. Posted by The Listkeeper | February 28, 2008 1:35 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Ya know, if you took the minds of all the Kosites and Wizbang Blue'ers and combined them, you'd have something that approached .001% of Bill Buckley's intellect.
19. Posted by The Listkeeper | February 28, 2008 1:35 PM |
Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Posted on February 28, 2008 13:35
20. Posted by Master Shake | February 28, 2008 2:46 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
You can't be serious, Listkeeper!
It's closer to .000000000000000000000000000001%
20. Posted by Master Shake | February 28, 2008 2:46 PM |
Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Posted on February 28, 2008 14:46
21. Posted by Tom Blogical | February 28, 2008 8:28 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
ryan a:
While I appreciate your attempt at moral equivalence (quite typical), it falls flat when the comments you point out were made in response to classless people trashing the main point of the thread, which was the death of William F. Buckley, and taking a broad swipe at a large population of the U.S. Understandable defensive and emotional commenting, given the circumstances.
The fact that point went over your head speaks volumes.
The first group to belly up to the insult bar matters, in this case. I'd be the first to smack down a conservative doing this on a thread discussing the death of a well-known liberal icon, for your information. When the "outsider" group throws the first insult bomb, well...what did you expect to happen?
For a multitude of reasons, that's all that needs to be said about this. If you disagree, fine. Whatever. Save it for another time and place, please. The comments on this thread should be reserved for remembering Mr. Buckley, and not dissertations on social etiquette.
21. Posted by Tom Blogical | February 28, 2008 8:28 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on February 28, 2008 20:28
22. Posted by ryan a | February 29, 2008 1:40 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Tom,
Point taken. I agree with you about the point of this thread.
Read my comment above (#14) for my opinion of Mr Buckley.
22. Posted by ryan a | February 29, 2008 1:40 AM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on February 29, 2008 01:40