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Kos to Hillary backers: Good riddance!

Recently a number of Daily Kos diarists and commenters who support Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination began a "strike" against the prime "netroots" site over what they claimed was poor treatment of their candidate and themselves. Now Kos himself weighs in on the rift - and basically tells them to bugger off:


First of all, the only path to victory for Clinton is via coup by super delegate.

She knows this. That's why there's all the talk about poaching pledged delegates and spinning uncertainty around Michigan and Florida, and laying the case for super delegates to discard the popular will and stage a coup.

Yet a coup by super delegate would sunder the party in civil war.

Clinton knows this, it's her only path to victory, and she doesn't care. She is willing -- nay, eager to split the party apart in her mad pursuit of power.

If the situations were reversed, and Obama was lagging in the delegates, popular vote, states won, money raised, and every other reasonable measure, then I'd feel the same way about Obama. (I pulled the plug early on Dean in 2004.) But that's not the case.

It is Clinton, with no reasonable chance of victory, who is fomenting civil war in order to overturn the will of the Democratic electorate. As such, as far as I'm concerned, she doesn't deserve "fairness" on this site. All sexist attacks will be dealt with -- those will never be acceptable. But otherwise, Clinton has set an inevitably divisive course and must be dealt with appropriately.


Read the rest at the link above. It doesn't look like a olive branch being extended to the boycotting Clintonites. More like a line in the sand . . .

Kos notes earlier in his post that his site was founded on the principle of challenging the Democratic establishment and particularly the DLC, and Clinton is certainly more closely aligned with those entities.

The high and rising tensions between the supporters of both Clinton and Obama portend a contentious convention, especially if Hillary closes strongly and Obama continues to be rocked with the first real challenges to his campaign.


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Comments (12)

Yet, <a href="http://www.et... (Below threshold)

Yet, there is hope in this: hope for a major restructuring of a major party, the first such since Woodrow Wilson captured the Democratic nomination in 1912.

H. L. Mencken noted that democracy, which seems bent on "killing the thing it theoretically loves," needs a party of liberty. It hasn't really had one since Grover Cleveland. But with the tectonic upheavals among Democrats, the opportunity to reshape a major party might soon be upon us.

Stay tuned.

Kos writes, "Yet a coup ... (Below threshold)
Dodo David:

Kos writes, "Yet a coup by super delegate would sunder the party in civil war. Clinton knows this, it's her only path to victory, and she doesn't care. She is willing -- nay, eager to split the party apart in her mad pursuit of power."

Wow! I actually agree with Kos on something.
Breaking news: Hell has frozen over.

A party selecting its candi... (Below threshold)
civildisobedience Author Profile Page:

A party selecting its candidates is about its delegates, which are not based solely on popular votes; never has been. Wilson was ultimately selected in 1912 even though someone else, Clark, had a majority of delegates pledged to him going into the convention.

Though desperate and manipulative, there is nothing illegal with what Clinton is doing. Based on the last week, her party may even thank her for sticking in there later.

All you have to do is peek ... (Below threshold)
Jumpinjoe:

All you have to do is peek into the Wizbang Blue section to see the Democratic internal fighting on who is the biggest leftie to run against McCain.

Of course those leftie street creds will have to sold to the entire electorate in the general election which in all probability will hand it to McCain.

No economic downturn for those dispensing therapy and anti depressants in 2009, that's fer shore.

I'm enjoying all the fuss o... (Below threshold)
Yogurt:

I'm enjoying all the fuss over "counting" Michigan voters. Given their track record of electing politicians that have turned the state economy into one rivaled only bu Haiti, and politicians Fidal would be proud of, "Who Cares?" if their votes count. The good news is conservatives won't foot the bill for a Demo "reroll", because they have already left long ago.

Ex-Michigander
"Say Ya to the U.P. too, eh?"

What KOS really means is if... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

What KOS really means is if Hillary doesn't lie down and go away but continues to go on and fight for what she wants, the black vote will stay home and McCain will win. KOS is not respector of persons. ww

I really like the use of th... (Below threshold)
Brian The Adequate:

I really like the use of the word coup.

What is it about Lefties and thinking that if the rules are followed, but they don't like the result that the result must be illegitimate?

Maybe these guys should loo... (Below threshold)
brainy435:

Maybe these guys should look up the meaning of the "civil war." IT's been pretty apparent from the way they throw it around that they don't really know what it means.

I love the democrat party e... (Below threshold)
Jo:

I love the democrat party eating their own. They're headed for a huge meltdown.

It couldn't happen to a more loathesome party.

Shorter Kos: Screw 'em.... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Shorter Kos: Screw 'em.

"Clinton knows this, it's h... (Below threshold)

"Clinton knows this, it's her only path to victory, and she doesn't care. She is willing -- nay, eager to split the party apart in her mad pursuit of power."

When push comes to shove, as Hillary Clinton has demonstrated time and again, she will harm you: http://theseedsof9-11.com

Dems are trying to blame Re... (Below threshold)
Kathy, TX Dem:

Dems are trying to blame Repubs for this when in fact a Dem. in Fla. (Jeremy Ring) co-sponsored the primary move forward in a "boycott" of the DNC and a Dem. (Gov. Jennifer Granholm) signed the state bill into law. Voters in both states put these people in power and this is what they did for them. If they want do-overs, I say impeach these nut cases before any money is spent. It's not the DNC's fault; it's, like all politics, quite local.




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