Good point about Trent Lott, I hadn't thought about that until now and it is a valid comparison. At the time I didn't think Trent Lott should have resigned, just like now I don't think Obama should have to resign either but it does show the double standard.

Sen. Obama wants it both ways: He wants to be a post-racial uniter of the country, but he doesn't want to do anything that would distance himself from a significant part of the black community, which is supporting him at up to a 90% rate. I don't think Obama's beliefs are in any way similar to those of Rev. Wright, but a white politician who sat in church for 20 years listening to rants of an angry, racist, anti-American nature would have been toast long before now.

In short, Wright is a bigoted hate mongor who hates white people for being white. One brush paints us all. Obama will get a pass, for a while, because the MSM is afraid to criticize him. ww

I'd be just as interested to hear him explain his support of Dorothy Tillman.

How refreshing to hear a complex, intelligent, speech competently delivered by a politician. A great day for Mr. Obama and a great day for America.

Another step forward on Barack Obama's path to becoming The President of the United States of America.

Put a fork in him, he's done.

With his speech, Obama made himself the black candidate. He told whitey that they are racists for not supporting him. Good luck getting the white "Reagan Democrat" vote now.

He sure wasn't afraid to tell Imus to take a hike or throw his grandmother under the bus.

Obama threw his grandmother off the train for his own political gain. She was the one person who was there for him in his times of need. To equate her with Wright is both ridiculous and callous. What an ungrateful jerk. His wife was right, he is stinky.

I was never ever going to vote Obama in the first place, but this is going to keep a lot of fence sitters from jumping on the Obama bandwagon, especially since he is still keeping Wright on the top of his BFF list.

How can he say he will unite people when those he hangs out with every Sunday have no intention of uniting? Of course the definition of "uniter" for liberals is the guy that wins implements the losers policies to make them happy.

Those that already support him thought his speech was, like.......awesome!

I even lurked in the Kos thread and many mentioned how they just broke down and cried because it was soooooooo inspirational.

But polls are already showing his positives are taking a quick nosedive.

Whether you supported him in the primaries or not, get used to "President John McCain".

I noted in a story in the paper this morning that they had a quote from Wright where he told Obama early last year that he (Obama) might have to distance himself from him (Wright) if he got the nomination. So right there you can chuck all of Obama's lies about how he didn't know that Wright was saying any of this stuff, Wright has admitted telling Obama that he might have to distance himself from him. Unless, of course, you choose to believe that Obama took this from his friend and mentor and they never discussed why he would say that he might have to distance himself from Wright.

Plus, watch the cable news shows. Watch the usually confident and cocky lefties. Look at their faces, they're squirming.

The Story of Jeremiah

'But it was all of no use. The people first scoffed and then grew angry, and in their rage they seized Jeremiah and put him in the stocks where all the passers-by might mock at him.

"See the mad prophet! "they cried in derision.

It was easy to laugh at the prophet, but in a very short time a feeling of uneasiness began to spread amongst the people of Jerusalem. It looked as if there might be truth in the prophet's warning.'

[ . . . ]

http://www.mainlesson.com/display.php?author=steedman&book=nurserybible&story=jeremiah

Obama lied.

I had written here that I did not for one second accept his word that he had not heard any of the hate rhetoric from Wright. He finally admitted that he had heard it.

He is a liar.

Let's see Trent said America would be a better place today if Strom's segregationist policies were enacted. While Obama said Wright's views and statements were not his, and he disavowals those thoughts and statements.

Jay, even you should see the difference between the two?

Democrats god love them...they are going to once again nominate a loser. Amazing how supposedly intelligent people can keep lock steping to defeat election after election.

Will Obama have to pay any sort of price for his long-standing association with Wright, or will his repudiation

Will Mitt Romney have to pay any sort of price for attending a church for over a decade that practiced blatant racial discrimination?

Or does your indignant outrage only apply to the churches of black candidates Jay?

Will Mitt Romney have to pay any sort of price for attending a church for over a decade that practiced blatant racial discrimination?

Or does your indignant outrage only apply to the churches of black candidates Jay?
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Cheap excuse along the line of Obama 's despicable false equivalencies ( throwing his gradma under the bus ).

Romney was born into the Mormon church (he didn't choose it as Obama did). His father was active in the civil rights movement. And the Mormon church dropped it more than 30 years ago. Wright is now. Obama is a calculating and less than honest politician. If you want to support another liar in the mold of Bill Clinton, then go ahead but at least be honest about it. Also we had another example of another liberal hero/icon in Spitzer. Please don't sell us Obama as MLK!

Note also how Obama supporters now are trying to use the race card to justify his long association with a racist. If Obama can throw his loving grandmother under the bus for his political ambition, no wonder his supporters will stoop into the gutter with their savior.

Romney had to attend the church because is was the only place a mormon could practive without discrimination from fundemental Christians who were motivated by hate and at times Romney remembered the slurs of "You cult member", "mormon go home", "how many wives do you have?" and other vile things. His grandmother, who was a devout traditional Christian at times derided Romney for his faith. "I love my grandmother, but she was so hateful to me for who I was", Romney said. (sarcasm off)

See how stupid Obama's excuse is. Hate is hate. It had no color distinction.

I agree with Pretzel, Obama is now the "black" candidate who excuses bad and hateful behavior because black people are victims. ww

The comment which seems to have caused the most anger by Wright is his "chickens came home to roost" reference to 9/11. But explain how Wright's reaction is any different to....

"God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve," said Falwell, appearing yesterday on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "700 Club," hosted by Robertson.

"Jerry, that's my feeling," said Pat Robertson.

This occurred three days after 9/11 when America was in the midst of its deepest anguish..How consoling, how Christian! And how did did George W.Bush respond as President? Did he reject or renounce Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson nutty comments on behalf of those families, who lost loved ones in an attack that Robertson and Falwell said "America deserved", which was worse than Wright's comment, in my estimation. No, Of course not. .Why? He has calculated (how sincere Bush his about his religion is questionable) that he needs the votes and support of the right wing white evangelists, so he invited Pat Robertson for a prayer meeting, one on one, with him a few weeks before the Iraq invasion to seek Robertson's blessing and wisdom for the Iraqi invasion / the "There will be no American casualties" meeting.

Bush, in matters of faith and theology, and just about everything else admits "I don't do nuance". What a contrast to Obama after the most intelligent, honest and courageous speech on race and faith since John McCain's in February, in South Carolina in 2000?

But will Obama pay the same price for a speech about bigotry aimed at adults, that McCain suffered? Maybe.

Wright is an anti-American racist right now, today ... his church is a rasict (anti-white) organization ...
Obama supports both with words and money ...

That makes Obama a racist anti-American once removed ... this is not guilt by association this is guilt by endorsement ... with his words and on his checks ...

The Anti-American racist presidential candidate ... now thats a different kind of politics ...

Steve,
I thought you would be more honest than this. But we cannot expect any better, I am surprised.
Did Bush take his kids to church every week to hear his pastor calling "God d* America", the "US of KKKA", the US gov invented the aid virus etc...?
Obama is shown a liar and of poor character by throwing his grandma under the bus. Feel free to support another version of Bill Clinton (1st black president), but don't sell us on cheap rhetoric. I forgot, liberals love the "unsually good" liar.

Nice job bringing up that tasteless comment Trent Lott said and comparing them to remarks that Barack Obama did not say.

Oh well, in your emotionally crippled way, you're having fun.

"I forgot, [leftists] love the "unsually good" liar."

It's not a metter of "love" so much. It's simply a job requirement.

America is crumbling. This post and thread shows the successful attempts to degrade our will and perception of the true challenges and successes of our nation have left us sitting in a cesspool of a petty schoolyard mudslinging while the evil delinquents that threaten to steal our bikes and beat us into a senseless pulp stand just on the other side of the schoolyard fence, watching and waiting for the chance they sense is now very near.

Larkin:

Will Mitt Romney have to pay any sort of price for attending a church for over a decade that practiced blatant racial discrimination?

Okay, you've convinced me, I won't vote for Romney for President this time.

You've made the comparison repeatedly but it's not even remotely comparable. (1) At this point, Romney's qualifications to be President isn't any more relevant to the current Presidential debate than your local county supervisor. (2) What someone did 20+ years ago may or may not reflect their current views. Behavior within the past 5 years is much more likely to reflect their current views.

As far a Crickmore's comments, neither of those people were considered close personal friends and mentors. It's a matter of being able to infer the views of a person by who their close friends are. The reason being is that friendship requires some common basis of beliefs. The closer the friendship to more closely the two people are alike. Crickmore's point is a poor attempt at obfuscation through invalid comparisons.

his church is a rasict (anti-white) organization ...

Trinity is part of the United Church of Christ which is a Protestant church and largely white I believe. I went to a Church of Christ once where I live and it was all white.

Romney was born into the Mormon church (he didn't choose it as Obama did).

Oh so when Romney was an adult of 21 years and he chose to worship for the next decade in a church that followed racist policies he didn't have any choice? He was forced to because he was born into it?

Hypocrisy on display for all to see.

Obama lied, Grandma cried

This cheap tactic of bringing up what someone else did or didn't do in response to some other statement is particularly transparent.

Of course everyone who heard what Falwell and Robertson said after 9/11 said the same thing to themselves -- "what a couple of loons."

The only question of relevance to someone's character is what did they do when they heard the remarks at the time they were made?

You know, the old matter of what a man does when no one is looking.

My big problem with Obama's notion of bridging the gap and moving beyond our differences is that it will never happen as long as the Pastor Wrights of the black churchs continue to spew this sort of racial hatred -- and their congregants continue to bring their children to hear it and see all of the people nodding and saying "amen!"

Really. When your minister professes in his sermon that the AIDS virus was concocted by the U.S. government for the purpose of racial genocide, is this the sort of remark you let go, or write off as the remark of the crazy uncle?

It is one thing to belong to a church that has a pastor who says inflammatory things.

It's quite another to name the pastor as your mentor, as a friend, as a member of your campaign. THAT crosses the line of pastor/parishioner in a big way.

No, what Sen. Obama's maternal grandmother said was not right. But as a blood relative, he could not walk away from her. He could have chosen another mentor, another campaign advisor, etc.

Trinity is part of the United Church of Christ which is a Protestant church and largely white I believe. I went to a Church of Christ once where I live and it was all white.

Larkin, I'm not trying to nit-pick, but the United C.O.C. is not the same as Church of Christ. (I'm guessing that they have about 1.3 million members nationwide.) Also, local churches are fairly autonomous with regards to the larger denomination.

It is one thing to belong to a church that has a pastor who says inflammatory things.

Yeah right, and black churches are the ONLY churches where the pastors say inflammatory things.

I'm sure Mike Huckabee was never in a church where anything inflammatory was said.

Isn't it interesting how you're all so curious about Obama's pastor but you have no interest at all in the content of Mike Huckabee's sermons?

Oh so when Romney was an adult of 21 years and he chose to worship for the next decade in a church that followed racist policies he didn't have any choice? He was forced to because he was born into it?

Hypocrisy on display for all to see.
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Yup, thanks for displaying the liberal hypocrisy again. Liberals were making a big deal of Romney 's church and now trying to excuse Obama? Romney 's father was active in the civil movement and Romney himself followed in the footsteps of his dad. What did Obama do to change the racist view of his pastors besides bringing his kids to listen to him and embracing him until a convenient time for distancing (as brought up by pastor Wright himself). Can we be honest to admit that Obama is a liar, a hypocrite (first to call for the firing of Imus), and a typical corrupt politician of poor character (for his porks and throwing his grandmother under the bus).

Larkin, if you want to support Obama, go ahead but be honest about it. But don't try to fool us about the new politics of "change" and "hope".