Firm which "peeked" at passport files

The "firm" didn't peek. A rogue employee peeked.

the contractor works for Obama.

He didn't work for Obama. He worked for a firm headed by a guy who consults for Obama.

Has it come to this, where you can't even make an argument without lying?

No lie, Brian. Note that the plural "contractors" is used to refer to the peekers, but Jim uses the singular -- "contractor" -- to refer to the employer of the peekers. Those are the terms used in these situations.

And Jim is also right. When this first broke, it was all about Obama's record -- and there was plenty of accusations that Condoleezza Rice and George W. Bush were behind it. All some folks are doing is changing that accusation to a question, and updating it to reflect the actual employer of record of the snoopers.

I still think it's "much ado about nosing," and don't think there was any grand conspiracy behind it -- just some boneheads too nosy for their own good -- and think they all ought to have been fired for cause. But it certainly is interesting to see who they really worked for -- and how the revelation affects certain people's opinions on the situation.

Why, it's almost as if the magnitude of the offense and the likelihood of it being a political dirty trick is directly tied to who their opinions of the various players or something...

Nah. That'd be DISHONEST, and that'd never happen. Especially among those who support Obama or Clinton.

J.

He didn't work for Obama. He worked for a firm headed by a guy who consults for Obama.

... a distinction which the MSM would studiously not be making if they could get away with screeching about "THE BUSH STATE DEPARTMENT" or "ROGUE EMPLOYEE TIED TO MCCAIN CAMPAIGN."

Oh, well, so much for "PassportGate." The media will bury it deeper than Jimmy Hoffa, starting the moment the name "Obama" surfaced in any context except the aggrieved victim.

Jay ~ My fault, Chief. I remembered, from my newspaper days, that one should write so an alert 6th-grader could understand. But I was in 6th grade a long time ago - the standards were higher, no union teachers.

My bad.

The "firm" didn't peek. A rogue employee peeked

This is a real hoot coming from the political affiliation that pegged the Bush administration with every rouge government employee with grand conspiracies.

Of course selected righteous indignation has been a trait of the left for some time now.

Even the Abu-grab-ass soldiers were pegged as following direct orders from the very top of the administration.

Just as the lefties did when this first broke and only Obama's name was mentioned. The Kos Kiddies and other lefty blogs had a day or two to cook up their conspiracy scenarios and point fingers at the Bush administration.

But then Obama did call for an investigation into this matter, so who knows, using the same reasoning as the left, Obama probably ordered the probes of his political opponent's records and used the peeking into his own records as cover.

I don't actually believe that but I'd be more than happy to spread that rumor around the same way the left wouldn't hesitate to spread their conspiracies.

Firm which "peeked" at passport files

Just to pile on, when it was a few low ranking soldiers involved in the Abu Graid thing, those on the Left, including the Credentialed Media, were blaming Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld specifically for what went on. When some CIA officers went idiot and kidnapped that Muslim in Italy, it was Bush's fault.

Yet, when it was peeps working for a company headed by an Obama advisor, no, no, look away, you guys are making shat up.

Notice that the story has virtually disappeared from the left-o-sphere with the publication of this information?

I notice Brian didn't care they also peeked at McCain's file too. Oh well. So much for leftist indignation and our "privacy."

I notice Brian didn't care they also peeked at McCain's file too.

You did? Just where did you notice that?

And I love how so many on here suddenly don't understand the difference between a rogue employee going off and doing something unrelated to his duties and never requested by his management, and one who is implementing a formal policy and ethical foundation established by his leadership. For example, we've heard very little about the managers at the State Dept. who were aware of these transgressions months ago but didn't bother mentioning them to upper management or taking any action. Did Condi peek into the records herself? Of course not. But clearly her department has very little interest in reporting and dealing with violations of the rules. Until they're reported in the national press, that is.

And let's not forget the timeline in which you believe all of these grand conspiracies evolved. The peeking into Obama's records was reported Thursday evening. By Friday noon, we knew the peeking extended to Clinton and McCain, and were likely rogue employees not directed at any one candidate. (Then on Saturday Jay gave us his insightful analysis that the peeking extended to Clinton and McCain, and were likely rogue employees not directed at any one candidate.)

So that's less than 24 hours in which all State reported was the viewing of Obama's record.

And then, all some folks were doing is changing the accusation to a question, and updating it to reflect the actual targets of the snoopers. According to Jay above, this is perfectly reasonable.