What do you mean Puerto Rico can change its Democratic primary date without losing delegates?
The Democratic Party on Monday approved Puerto Rico's proposal to scrap its caucus and hold a presidential primary on June 1.While Florida and Michigan delegates won't be seated at the convention. It is a screwed up Presidential election system we have in this country.A primary will give more voters a chance to take part in the nominating process, said Puerto Rico Democratic Chairman Roberto Prats...
Puerto Rico will have 55 delegates at stake in its primary, and will award them proportionally.
Matthew Shugart at Fruits and Votes makes several good points-
Fifty five delegates is one more than South Carolina and two fewer than Iowa. I wonder how the number is chosen, given that the formula in states (and the District of Columbia) takes into account the state's tendency to vote Democratic in the general election. Puerto Rico, of course, does not vote in general elections for President.No it is isn't a great party. The Democratic party has one very screwed up system in place. One, that with the help of Hillary Clinton's desperation tactics, could end up blowing the 2008 Presidential election. One the Democrats should have every reason to believe is theirs for the winning.So, after about 95% of the elected delegates have been allocated, a territory that is not technically part of the United States gets to change its rules so as to give more of its voters a theoretical chance of determining a presidential candidate that they would have no right to vote for.
Is this a great party, or what?
Hat tip- Dr Steven Taylor at Poliblog
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You thought they screamed f... (Below threshold)1. Posted by GarandFan | March 27, 2008 8:43 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
You thought they screamed foul in 2000 and 2004. Wait for this one. It has to be Carl Rove!!
1. Posted by GarandFan | March 27, 2008 8:43 PM |
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Posted on March 27, 2008 20:43
2. Posted by ExSubNuke | March 27, 2008 8:53 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Honestly, I think Dems screaming about something is just their natural state of being. I lose track of what they're screaming about.
2. Posted by ExSubNuke | March 27, 2008 8:53 PM |
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Posted on March 27, 2008 20:53
3. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | March 27, 2008 9:00 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Heck, I think I've convinced my college intern to vote Republican with all of these examples.
Which party is obsessed with race, gender and sexuality, and shuns those that don't vote accordingly?
Which party builds in a "smokey back room" system to make sure the little people can't vote the wrong way?
Which party needs the US to fail at home and abroad to bolster themselves?
Muahahaha.
3. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | March 27, 2008 9:00 PM |
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Posted on March 27, 2008 21:00
4. Posted by Two Dogs | March 27, 2008 9:14 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
I think that they might just be having about one delegate less with their governor getting indicted today on seventeen counts. And the governor is a superdelegate. Yay! Democrats!
http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/puerto-rico-governor-obama-supporter-indicted-2008-03-27.html
4. Posted by Two Dogs | March 27, 2008 9:14 PM |
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Posted on March 27, 2008 21:14
5. Posted by Brian | March 27, 2008 9:21 PM | Score: -3 (5 votes cast)
What do you mean Puerto Rico can change its Democratic primary date without losing delegates?
Why should they lose delegates? The rule MI and FL violated was moving to before Feb. 5. As far as I can tell, Puerto Rico isn't moving their date to before Feb. 5. Therefore, they don't lose delegates.
so as to give more of its voters a theoretical chance of determining a presidential candidate
What's wrong with giving more voters an opportunity to vote? It's not like that changes Puerto Rico's influence on the primaries. They still only get 55 delegates, no matter how many voters there are.
5. Posted by Brian | March 27, 2008 9:21 PM |
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Posted on March 27, 2008 21:21
6. Posted by 914 | March 27, 2008 9:25 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Way to pick them Superdelegate supporters Barack. Now We have more to talk about beside's the wrong Reverend Wright.
6. Posted by 914 | March 27, 2008 9:25 PM |
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Posted on March 27, 2008 21:25
7. Posted by Two Dogs | March 27, 2008 11:29 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Brian, you give them way too much credit, I really think that the Democrat Party in Puerto Rico is trying to force the world to set the calendar back so they can have their primary before the Iowa caucuses. Remember, Democrats think that something can be accomplished just because they want to accomplish it. Logic and reason never enter the debate. Hence, the Dems have the two worst candidates ever selected in the history of this country. YES WE CAN!
7. Posted by Two Dogs | March 27, 2008 11:29 PM |
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Posted on March 27, 2008 23:29
8. Posted by WildWillie | March 28, 2008 7:22 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Typical dem's. Moving the goal posts all the time. ww
8. Posted by WildWillie | March 28, 2008 7:22 AM |
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Posted on March 28, 2008 07:22
9. Posted by _Mike_ | March 28, 2008 8:12 AM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Actually, what you've referred to in the article is the Democrat primary system, which as has been pointed out previously is a part of private organization. In other words, don't blame the country for the Democrats inability to run a primary.
9. Posted by _Mike_ | March 28, 2008 8:12 AM |
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Posted on March 28, 2008 08:12